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  • CVH Rulz
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    • Jun 2005
    • 367

    Should be playing Van Hagar on tour

    Sammy playing it cool at 60

    Red Rocker hits Bloomington with ex-Van Halen bassist Michael Anthony

    Thursday, October 25, 2007

    By Phil Luciano
    of the Journal Star

    Sammy Hagar gushes over U2, but not like most fans of the Irish band.

    Sure, he likes the music. But more so he appreciates how U2 has been able to remain at the top of its game for such a long time.

    "They're my favorite band," says Hagar, who plays Saturday at the U.S. Cellular Coliseum in Bloomington. "All the drugs, divorces and whatever, they've hung in there, hung together. They know when to take time off, but they stay together."

    You know whom he's thinking about. Hagar sounds wistful, a feeling he lets through once in a while when he thinks about Van Halen. Despite a history of pot shots from both sides since their rancorous 1996 split, the attacks have died down, with all parties more or less currently observing a truce. Much of the peace comes from the surviving Van Halen faction's making a business decision to be on its best behavior since reuniting this year with original vocalist David Lee Roth.

    Though Van Halen's current tour has been met with positive reviews, fans and critics are quick to note that the band is doing absolutely no Hagar-era tunes. Hagar warns that the outfit cannot forever ignore the Van Hagar years. Concert-goers might forgive the gap on the current set list, but not forever.

    "The fact that they're trying to pretend the last Van Halen album they did was '1984,' that's crazy," he says.

    Hagar acknowledges that Roth can't sing as high as needed on Hagar compositions like "Why Can't This Be Love" and "Poundcake." Still, the band needs to figure out how to incorporate Hagar works into the show, just as it did with Roth's songs after Hagar came into the fold.

    "I didn't like singing Dave's songs," Hagar says. "But I did. That's fan-friendly."

    Today, Hagar makes such statements matter-of-factly, without nasty undertones of years past. When pressed to discuss Van Halen, he often sounds flatly analytical, almost like a sociologist dissecting a peculiar sub-culture:

    - On the reunion tour with Van Halen in 2004-05 - one that ended with his complaints about Eddie Van Halen's alcohol problems and Hagar's declaring - "I'm done with Van Halen" - he simply says, "We found we really didn't like each other."

    - On his surprise that Roth was invited back to Van Halen: "Dave wasn't just the ex-singer. He was the enemy. He was Iraq."

    - On his better days with the band: "That was the pinnacle of my career. That was the pinnacle of their career. ... In fact, without Van Halen I couldn't do the things I do."

    In addition to forging forward with touring and recording, Hagar has created a fledgling entertainment empire, with his Cabo Wabo resort, like-named tequila and his latest venture, Cabo Wabo Radio - an Internet site streaming (as he puts it) "feel-good rock" that includes new and old material from across the globe.

    He kicked off the station Oct. 13, his 60th birthday, with a performance at his Mexican nightclub. In attendance were buddies like Kenny Chesney and Toby Keith, the latter of whom kept egging him to do birthday shots backstage before the show.

    "I told him, 'I can't! I can't! I've got a show to do!'" Hagar says, laughing. "I only did two shots."

    Even on a landmark birthday, Hagar insists on staying in control for his fans.

    "I drink," he says. "I even party it up sometimes. I mean, I have my own tequila (brand). But I would never go on stage without being in the best shape I can be. Maybe just a shot or two, a little buzz."

    Hagar says he feels better as a performer than even his youthful days with Montrose or his heyday in Van Halen. He often cringes at old concert footage.

    "I can't believe I acted like that," he says. "I was insecure ... Things would come out of my mouth, mostly things about sex or getting high - I guess, things I thought people wanted to hear."

    Today, he no longer tries to play the part of rock star. He just plays the part of Sammy. He likes the role.

    "I'm cooler than I was when I was 30," he says with a chuckle. "I'm 60, but I'd rather be the super-cool old guy."
  • CVH Rulz
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    • Jun 2005
    • 367

    #2
    He can't fucking shut up, can he. Good thing he is over it.

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    • DlocRoth
      ROCKSTAR

      • Jan 2004
      • 5515

      #3
      Originally posted by CVH Rulz
      But I would never go on stage without being in the best shape I can be.

      BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
      Fuck Scott Weiland. Fucking asshole. I get trashed all the time and still go to work. And my job sucks ass. -ODShowtime

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      • Redballjets88
        Full Member Status

        • Mar 2005
        • 4453

        #4
        The second someone mentions putting van hagar in the set list the entire tour will go downhill. Imagine how pissed off Dave would be if he was asked to singer a van hagar song.
        R.I.P Van Halen 1978-1984

        hopefully God will ressurect you

        "i wont be messing with you in future.the fearsome redballjets88 for fear of you owning me some more" Axl S


        " I liked Sammy Hagar " FORD

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        • ace diamond
          Full Member Status

          • Sep 2004
          • 3863

          #5
          Originally posted by DlocRoth
          BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
          I'LL DRINK TO THAT!
          Originally posted by hideyoursheep
          When Hagar speaks, I want to cut off my ears and send them to Bristol Palin.
          "It's like trying to fit a mouse fart into a sardine can with a shoe horn"-Ace Diamond

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          • TVGUY
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            • Feb 2007
            • 298

            #6
            Originally posted by CVH Rulz
            "Hagar warns that the outfit cannot forever ignore the Van Hagar years. ."
            Ummm.... Wanna bet?
            Three time witness to the comeback of the MIGHTY VAN HALEN. And then they faded back into obscurity.

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            • Redballjets88
              Full Member Status

              • Mar 2005
              • 4453

              #7
              They can ignore it without a doubt, especially if after the tour they record a new album.
              R.I.P Van Halen 1978-1984

              hopefully God will ressurect you

              "i wont be messing with you in future.the fearsome redballjets88 for fear of you owning me some more" Axl S


              " I liked Sammy Hagar " FORD

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              • Pasadena Bunnie
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                • Jul 2006
                • 413

                #8
                Two Words:

                Jealous and BITTER.

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                • Pasadena Bunnie
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                  • Jul 2006
                  • 413

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Redballjets88
                  The second someone mentions putting van hagar in the set list the entire tour will go downhill. Imagine how pissed off Dave would be if he was asked to singer a van hagar song.
                  WHO the hell wants to hear a Van Hagar song?

                  Certainly NOT a Van Halen Audience!

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                  • jharp84
                    Veteran
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 2096

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Pasadena Bunnie
                    Two Words:

                    Jealous and BITTER.
                    I think he's gonna be on "suicide" watch soon!

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                    • jharp84
                      Veteran
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 2096

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Pasadena Bunnie
                      WHO the hell wants to hear a Van Hagar song?

                      Certainly NOT a Van Halen Audience!
                      Tha SISTA SPEAKS THE GOSPEL!!! AMEN!! ALL HAIL THE BUNNIE "BABE" !

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                      • Terry
                        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 11957

                        #12
                        The number of people going to the current shows who actually WANT to hear a Roth-fronted Van Halen essay some Van Hagar songs has to be so miniscule that why fucking BOTHER??!!

                        Does Sammy think people wanted to see Roth get together with the band for so many years now in order to hear Dave sing Can't Stop Loving You?

                        And not for nothing, but until 2004, Hagar played the same 2 or 3 CVH tunes live every tour...and the lead vocals just didn't sound right. Not even getting into who is a "better" singer of the two here, either. Same would apply for Dave doing a Van Hagar tune.

                        If any fan seeing Van Halen 2007 really wants to hear a Van Hagar song, maybe Dave can do what Hagar did in 1986 when the band played Jump, and drag a fan up onstage to sing whichever desired track of hairballad queerness (that Sam Halen were SO adept at 'creating') said fan wanted to hear (Savicki, pay attention!!).

                        CVH (or Van Wolfie, or whatever fucking label one is comfortable calling this current incarnation) have enough tunes out of the 6 studio albums that were released in the ten-odd years they were with Roth (as opposed to Sam Halen's 4 in eleven years) to do at least two tours with a minimum (say 5 of the best-known tracks) amount of set list overlap. And if it did come down to a shortage of material down the line, I'd rather the band did some Roth solo stuff live than bother with the Van Hagar stuff (didn't ole Red Tubs get at least two solo tunes per tour into the setlist?)...or...better yet...come up with some new material. I'd rather see them make an effort at some "new originals" that didn't quite stack up next to the CVH output than hear Dave warble When Fuckin Pud Comes Walking In. Yuck.

                        And this even presupposes the band is gonna LAST beyond the current set of dates.

                        Fuckin' tubby cheesehead!!
                        Last edited by Terry; 10-25-2007, 09:44 PM.
                        Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                        • ace diamond
                          Full Member Status

                          • Sep 2004
                          • 3863

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Pasadena Bunnie
                          WHO the hell wants to hear a Van Hagar song?

                          Certainly NOT a Van Halen Audience!
                          A-FUCKING-MEN TO THAT SISTER.........LET'S PARTY!
                          Originally posted by hideyoursheep
                          When Hagar speaks, I want to cut off my ears and send them to Bristol Palin.
                          "It's like trying to fit a mouse fart into a sardine can with a shoe horn"-Ace Diamond

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                          • FORD
                            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 58755

                            #14
                            Ozzy Osbourne never sang a Ronnie James Dio song at a Black Sabbath concert.

                            And those were actually GOOD songs. But why should he have to sing them?

                            He shouldn't. Nor should anyone expect Dave to sing Van Hagar shit.
                            Eat Us And Smile

                            Cenk For America 2024!!

                            Justice Democrats


                            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                            • ThrillsNSpills
                              ROTH ARMY ELITE
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 6626

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Terry
                              and drag a fan up onstage to sing whichever desired track of hairballad queerness (that Sam Halen were SO adept at 'creating') .
                              Dave wouldn't even put on a Harpo Marx wig and sing I Can't Stop loving you to a blow up doll.
                              (in reference to Sam's Dave imitator at his show)

                              and why on earth would a blues/rock dude like Dave sing Why Can't this be Love?

                              It's such a nonissue.
                              and were the Sam years the pinnacle of VH's career?

                              amazing

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