Views on Gay Marriage?

[matt19]

Anyone have any information on all the candidates views on this issue?

[LoungeMachine]

I'm all for Gay Marriage.

Why the fuck shouldn't they have to suffer too?



Besides, thome needs love.

[naturochem]

Re: Views on Gay Marriage?

Originally posted by matt19
Anyone have any information on all the candidates views on this issue?

An issue I'm sure Mike Shanahan is following quite closely!!

Although, after Sunday's game, Barry fuckin Sims may be interested as well...

[FORD]

"I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and a woman" - Arnold "Herr Gropenator" Schwarzenegger, 8/27/2003

[FORD]

‘08 Presidential Candidate Stances on Gay marriage, or, the issue that dare not speak its name

by: Diana Apr 25th 2007



We know it seems kind of early to be talking with any depth about the 2008 presidential election, but the days of election coverage starting in the year of the actual election are over. Nowadays, we’ve got to start a good 18+ months before the election (even earlier really, we’re actually late to the 2008 election party).

At any rate, while the field is still ostensibly broad (it may not be anybody’s game, but there’s still some competition for nominations out there), and in light of John McCain’s appearance on The Daily Show last night and Mike Huckabee’s appearance on The Colbert Report the night before, it’s time to take a narrow look at some of the announced potential candidates for the two main parties and their stances (at least as far as well can tell) on gay issues, mostly the gay marriage issue (we’ve decided to hold off on third-party and independent candidates until some front-runners emerge). (List of candidates via Politics 1.)

Democrats

US Senator Joe Biden (D-Delaware) - supports civil unions but is against gay marriage.
US Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-New York) - opposes same-sex marriage but supports civil unions, and is also fond of ducking the issue.
US Senator Chris Dodd (D-Connecitcut) - supports civil unions but is against gay marriage.
Former US Senator John Edwards (D-North Carolina) - supports civil unions but is against gay marriage.
Former Alaska US Senator Mike Gravel (D-Virginia) - supports full range of gay civil rights issues including same-sex marriage recognition.
Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) - supports same-sex marriage.
US Senator Barack Obama (D-Illinois) - opposes same-sex marriage but supports civil unions, and has also ducked the issue.
Governor Bill Richardson (D-New Mexico) - promoted a domestic partnership bill in his home state this year.

Notably, the major Democratic candidates fail to list gay rights as a major issue on their campaign websites (and no search boxes to look for the issue, either).

Republicans

US Senator Sam Brownback (R-Kansas) - “Marriage is the union of one man and one woman.”
Former Governor Jim Gilmore (R-Virginia) - “[B]elieves marriage is the union of one man and one woman and as President will oppose gay marriage and so-called civil unions.”
Former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani (R-New York) - “Rudy Giuliani believes marriage is between a man and a woman. He does not - and has never - supported gay marriage.”
Former Governor Mike Huckabee (R-Arkansas) - supports “passage of a federal Constitutional amendment that defines marriage as a union between one man and one woman.”
Congressman Duncan Hunter (R-California) - “cosponsored and voted in favor of H.J. Res. 88 (Musgrave-CO), which proposes an amendment to the U.S. Constitution declaring that marriage in the United States shall consist solely of the union of a man and a woman.”
US Senator John McCain (R-Arizona) - personally opposes same-sex marriage, but thinks it’s an issue for states to decide.
Congressman Ron Paul (R-Texas) - “defining and recognizing marriages is not a federal or constitutional matter, but should be left as the States’ right.”
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-Massachusetts) - “As a candidate for governor in Massachusetts, Romney called on the Republican Party to provide ‘more support’ for the gay and lesbian community. Since beginning his White House bid, Romney has toughened his rhetoric on civil unions and same-sex marriage, both of which he now opposes.
Congressman Tom Tancredo (R-Colorado) - supports “a constitutional amendment defining marriage as between one man and one woman.”
Former Governor Tommy Thompson (R-Wisconsin) - “believes marriage is between a man and a woman. He supports states’ rights in determining the definition of marriage and believes it should be done legislatively or by referendum.”

Note that most Republican candidates do address the issue of same-sex marriage on their websites.

So what do we glean from all of the above? Democrats are tiptoeing around gay issues, probably because they believe the gay vote is theirs regardless. Republicans are poised to make gay marriage a major, divisive issue again in 2008, since they know it will mobilize so many single-issue voters to go out to the polls and vote Republican (”Nevermind that I lost my job in Smalltown, U.S.A. because this administration champions corporate interests over my interests, just don’t let the gays marry!”). And no one wants to talk about the fact that marriage, at least in the legal, government sense, is a “civil union” with all the rights that go along with that, and has nothing whatsoever to do with God, the Bible, or religion (dear churches: the government can’t force you to perform marriages for anyone). Note to candidates, elected officials, and anyone else: Start calling all legal, civil marriages “civil unions” and problem solved!

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[jharp84]

It is what it is! Had a GAY stepbrother! Cool dude, not a "flamer"! Me - I just want booze, VH/DLR, and female MILFS!!!!!

Life is short! FUCK IT!! Live and Die! WTF!!

[jharp84]

Gotta go now! Did ya see the pic of Argerntin'a 1st lady! DUTY CALLS!! WHAAAA????

[jhale667]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
I'm all for Gay Marriage.

Why the fuck shouldn't they have to suffer too?



Besides, thome needs love.

Seriously, I'm still waiting for someone to explain why as a single hetro male I or anyone should give two shits about it...
It would be an interesting "social experiment", shall we say...to see if the divorce rate is nearly as high as hetro couples...
And if it was way lower, how fucking ironic would that be...

[ace diamond]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
I'm all for Gay Marriage.

Why the fuck shouldn't they have to suffer too?



Besides, thome needs love.

agreed

[ace diamond]

hey,divorce lawyer make a killing. can you imagine not if,but when gay marraige becomes legal........they will wind up being some of the richest motherfuckers in the cuntry!

[FORD]

Originally posted by jhale667


Seriously, I'm still waiting for someone to explain why as a single hetro male I or anyone should give two shits about it...
It would be an interesting "social experiment", shall we say...to see if the divorce rate is nearly as high as hetro couples...
And if it was way lower, how fucking ironic would that be...

I'm thinking of all the couples I know, both gay and straight, and outside of my parents, who have been married 42 years, the longest term relationships I can think of happen to be gay couples. They're "married" in every other sense, but just not legally.

Meanwhile, Titney Spears was married to her first husband 48 hours, and her second husband about two years.

How is that brainless twat legally entitled to a third marriage, but a same sex couple who have been together for 25 years aren't?

Doesn't make any fucking sense at all to me.

[jharp84]

This looks like a "dupe" see matt19 below! I thought mo-frails were punished on this here site for "dupe's"! Not "DUPA" though! LET"S ALL GET IT "STRAIGHT""!! EWS!!!!! what about u?!!! mudddaafffuucck!

[knuckleboner]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
I'm all for Gay Marriage.

Why the fuck shouldn't they have to suffer too?



Besides, thome needs love.

he asked what the candidates views were. so, lounge, what are you running for?...

[matt19]

This is about presidential candidates views. Different topic.

[jharp84]

Originally posted by matt19
This is about presidential candidates views. Different topic.

Got It!~ Thanks for "heads up" Like I said before! I don't hate anyone except those in "office" Not all of em! But MOST! GOTTA get back to watchin my new van halen dvd 2007! See Ya's!