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  • DrMaddVibe
    ROTH ARMY ELITE
    • Jan 2004
    • 6682

    Chavez loses constitutional vote

    By FRANK BAJAK, Associated Press Writer 43 minutes ago

    Humbled by his first electoral defeat ever, President Hugo Chavez said Monday he may have been too ambitious in asking voters to let him stand indefinitely for re-election and endorse a huge leap to a socialist state.

    "I understand and accept that the proposal I made was quite profound and intense," he said after voters narrowly rejected the sweeping constitutional reforms by 51 percent to 49 percent.

    Opposition activists were ecstatic as the results were announced shortly after midnight Ñ with 88 percent of the vote counted, the trend was declared irreversible by elections council chief Tibisay Lucena.

    Some shed tears. Others began chanting: "And now he's going away!"

    Foes of the reform effort Ñ including Roman Catholic leaders, media freedom groups, human rights groups and prominent business leaders Ñ said it would have granted Chavez unchecked power and imperiled basic rights.

    Chavez told reporters at the presidential palace that the outcome of Sunday's balloting had taught him that "Venezuelan democracy is maturing." His respect for the verdict, he asserted, proves he is a true democratic leader.

    "From this moment on, let's be calm," he proposed, asking for no more street violence like the clashes that marred pre-vote protests. "There is no dictatorship here."

    A senior U.S. official hailed Chavez's referendum defeat Monday as a victory for the country's citizens who want to preserve democracy and prevent Chavez from having unchecked power.

    "We felt that this referendum would make Chavez president for life, and that's not ever a welcome development," U.S. Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns told reporters in Singapore. "In a country that wants to be a democracy, the people spoke, and the people spoke for democracy and against unlimited power."

    Chavez, who was briefly ousted in a failed 2002 coup, blamed the loss on low turnout among the very supporters who re-elected him a year ago with 63 percent of the vote.

    Seven in 10 eligible voters cast ballots then. This time it was just 56 percent.

    The defeated reform package would have created new types of communal property, let Chavez handpick local leaders under a redrawn political map and suspended civil liberties during extended states of emergency. Without the overhaul, Chavez will be barred from running again in 2012.

    Other changes would have shortened the workday from eight hours to six, created a social security fund for millions of informal laborers and promoted communal councils where residents decide how to spend government funds.

    Nelly Hernandez, a 37-year-old street vendor, cried as she wandered outside the presidential palace early Monday amid broken beer bottles as government workers took apart a stage mounted earlier for a victory fete.

    "It's difficult to accept this, but Chavez has not abandoned us, he'll still be there for us," she said between sobs.

    A close ally of Cuba's Fidel Castro, Chavez has redistributed more oil wealth than past Venezuelan leaders, and also has aided Latin American allies Ñ including Bolivia, Ecuador and Nicaragua Ñ that have followed Venezuela's turn to the left.

    "He is a man who feels for the people, a man who has suffered, a man who comes from below," Carlos Orlando Vega, a 47-year-old carpenter's assistant, said outside a polling station in a Caracas slum on Sunday.

    Vega is among tens of thousands of Venezuelans who, under Chavez, have new government-provided homes.

    Chavez urged calm and restraint after his Sunday setback.

    "I wouldn't have wanted that Pyrrhic victory," he said, suggesting a small margin wouldn't have been enough of a mandate.

    Tensions surged in the weeks ahead of Sunday's vote, with university students leading protests and occasionally clashing with police and Chavista groups.

    Chavez had warned opponents against inciting violence before the vote, and threatened to cut off oil exports to the United States if the Bush administration interfered.

    Chavez, 53, also suffered some high-profile defections by political allies, including former defense minister Gen. Raul Baduel.

    Early Monday, Baduel reminded fellow Venezuelans that Chavez still wields special decree powers thanks to a pliant National Assembly packed with his supporters.

    "These results can't be recognized as a victory," Baduel told reporters,

    Baduel, who as defense minister helped Chavez turn back the 2002 putsch, said Venezuela can only be properly united by convening a popularly elected assembly to rewrite its constitution.

    Chavez has progressively steamrolled a fractured opposition since he was first elected in 1998, and his allies now control most elected posts.

    At opposition headquarters in an affluent east Caracas district, jubilant Chavez foes sang the national anthem.

    "This reform was about democracy or totalitarian socialism, and democracy won," said opposition leader Leopoldo Lopez said.

    "At least now we have the guarantee that Chavez will leave power," said Valeria Aguirre, a 22-year-old student who had braved tear gas during street protests.

    Lucena, the electoral agency chief, called the vote "the calmest we've had in the last 10 years."

    All was reported calm during Sunday's voting but 45 people were detained, most for committing ballot-related crimes like "destroying electoral materials," said Gen. Jesus Gonzalez, chief of a military command overseeing security.

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    Associated Press writers Ian James, Edison Lopez, Fabiola Sanchez, Jorge Rueda, Christopher Toothaker and Sandra Sierra contributed to this report.
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  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49204

    #2
    Hugo's having a bad couple of months. First, the Spanish King owns him, now he can't be president for life.

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    • Jim Shetterlini
      Head Fluffer
      • Aug 2007
      • 381

      #3
      Socialism fails again..At least this vote must have been honest as opposed to Russia.

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      • Nickdfresh
        SUPER MODERATOR

        • Oct 2004
        • 49204

        #4
        No, socialism didn't fail, authoritarianism did. Few of Chavez's reforms can be shown to really benefit the underclasses. He's just another cunt that's about power...

        And Putin's Russia is hardly exposing socialism these days. But they are in favor of autocracy...

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        • Jim Shetterlini
          Head Fluffer
          • Aug 2007
          • 381

          #5
          Originally posted by Nickdfresh
          No, socialism didn't fail, authoritarianism did. Few of Chavez's reforms can be shown to really benefit the underclasses. He's just another cunt that's about power...

          And Putin's Russia is hardly exposing socialism these days. But they are in favor of autocracy...
          Well I agree, but this article says the leader (Chavez) was trying to take a huge leap to a socialistic state. 1st line says that. I don't beleive this nation with its rich upper class wants an autocracy but more towards a democracy. I'm sure that an overwheming amount of the people would like to see the petroleum industry privatized again so the profits would go more directly into the hands of the people and private companies so all classes of people can benefit. Whenver a (state) controls an industry a minimal amount benefits the people but does make a militarty strong and a leader stronger.

          In regards to Russia, if it weren't for their oil income over the last 5 years again the (state) would not be as strong nor would their leader. The people of Russia are still not realizing the economy that they should be because the state still controls to much of the industies which should be privatized. Having said that, the people of this country, I am convinced DID NOT vote for Putin and his policies, but with old school KGB tactics put in place by this former KGB leader the vote was manipulated and strong armed to the leaders' positive results. Hell when he decided to pretty much throw away the countries constittution a few months back, I aready knew what the results would be.

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          • BITEYOASS
            ROTH ARMY ELITE
            • Jan 2004
            • 6530

            #6
            I swear the older Chavez will be, the uglier he'll get. He looks like a giant tanned troll.

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            • Jim Shetterlini
              Head Fluffer
              • Aug 2007
              • 381

              #7
              Originally posted by BITEYOASS
              I swear the older Chavez will be, the uglier he'll get. He looks like a giant tanned troll.
              But the red shirt makes the man.

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              • Nickdfresh
                SUPER MODERATOR

                • Oct 2004
                • 49204

                #8
                Originally posted by Jim Shetterlini
                ...
                In regards to Russia, if it weren't for their oil income over the last 5 years again the (state) would not be as strong nor would their leader. ...
                But who has helped make oil income so lucrative?

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                • BITEYOASS
                  ROTH ARMY ELITE
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 6530

                  #9
                  I don't know if it's the Venezuelan food or the Cuban cigars but Uncle Hugo is movin kinda slow.

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