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  • bueno bob
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Jul 2004
    • 22942

    Fucking Microsoft

    Listen, if ANYBODY is considering buying a Zune for someone this holiday season...think again.

    In mid November, I got an "update" from Microsoft for my Zune, which was not an entirely new thing to have happen. I took the update and my music library has never recovered.

    The problems (and there are several) culminated in the hijacking of my music library. I could no longer tell it what I was listening to, and all of a sudden Microsoft determined what my music was for me, since I apparently need to have dumbed-down software like every other 14 year old with a 30 gig out there.

    You can no longer search by genre, and the album artist/song title/album title fields are all fucked up...and I mean BIG TIME...I've got Manowar singing Paradise by the Dashboard Light from the Word of Mouth CD with cover art looking strangely similar to Master of Puppets...

    And that's but ONE example. Not a problem, until you realize that it automatically defaults back to whatever it determines the proper setting is once you click on edit. Or it just randomly re-arranges several other tracks/albums/artists with the same information.

    I have made about 5 calls to customer support, and they're worth fuck all. Each call has had to escalated to what they call "Tier 2" support, which is I guess a supervisor. Down side? You'll end up being on hold for anywhere between 10 minutes to AN HOUR (I'm not kidding) before being told that "Microsoft is aware of the problem, please go to our website for solutions."

    Fair enough. The problem with that? It's an EXTREMELY involved process to re-establish control of your music library (I worked on it the first time for about 20 minutes and still wasn't sure I had it right). Eventually, I followed ALL of the steps and come to find out, that fix only works about 75% of the time.

    If you're in the 25% of the people who can't fix their media library, Microsoft's official position is "We're very sorry for the difficulty, but we're not authorized to offer refunds or repair units that technically still work."

    I pulled out my original install disc, turned off the internet and reinstalled the original software and wiped my Zune unit, thinking that I could retrograde to the base install. Unfortunately, since the new software has latched on to my Zune unit, my Zune won't communicate at all with the old software.

    On top of that, you can no longer use Zune Marketplace and Microsoft (if they find out you've done that) will no longer cover your unit's warranty.



    I'm so pissed right now. On the plus side, my wife has something like 13 CDs in comparison to my 4,000,000...so I think she's getting a new Zune really quick...hopefully she won't experience the same issues, but it seems to be a problem affecting any sort of compilation CD/tracks that are ripped to your hard drive during the original upgrade...and she doesn't have anything like that.

    Best advice?

    MOTHER FUCK Zune and get your gift receivers an Ipod...

    Twistin' by the pool.
  • Jim Shetterlini
    Head Fluffer
    • Aug 2007
    • 381

    #2
    Thanks for the advice, I was about to buy one for my son and I guess I will do the ipod instead.

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    • Little Lamont
      Head Fluffer
      • Mar 2007
      • 371

      #3
      I love my iPod too.

      Bob, I've been meaning to ask, do you take those pictures yourself?

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      • bueno bob
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Jul 2004
        • 22942

        #4
        I highly recommend it. The ORIGINAL software was brilliant, easy to navigate, easy to work with and very user friendly...the new software has this gaudy (read: ugly) font, the colors are ugly, the library's a fucking mess if you have multiple artist compilation CDs (soundtracks, tribute albums, et al...I have numerous of both)...

        The old Zune I would have recommended to anyone at any time, but...for whatever reason, Microsoft sent out an update that essentially didn't work properly (don't they have BETA TESTERS?!?), never sent any warning that it was going to completely re-design the unit's working layout, and just said " Well, sorry if you don't like it, but hey...what are your choices? "

        Bottom line is that this is NOT what I paid for after I had it demonstrated to me, but having had it for over a year now, I guess I'm by and large pretty well fucked. Microsoft won't fix it (or can't), won't replace it (wouldn't do any good if they did, either) and I can't return it to the store and get something else.

        No options, other than give it to the wife or sell it on ebay...and the wife may as well use it considering I wouldn't get what I put into it originally, you know?

        Honestly, I feel like Microsoft attempted to take over my Zune and say "Well, yeah...you ORIGINALLY bought it...but really, let's face facts here...it's really OURS still, you know. Just a heads up for ya."

        The Zune message board has something like a 900 page thread of people furious as all hell about this...since LAST MONTH...

        Now that right there is proof of a fuck up on a HUGE scale.
        Last edited by bueno bob; 12-10-2007, 08:40 PM.
        Twistin' by the pool.

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        • bueno bob
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Jul 2004
          • 22942

          #5
          Originally posted by Little Lamont
          I love my iPod too.

          Bob, I've been meaning to ask, do you take those pictures yourself?
          Unfortunately, no...

          Just know where to look!
          Twistin' by the pool.

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          • Nickdfresh
            SUPER MODERATOR

            • Oct 2004
            • 49205

            #6
            Originally posted by bueno bob
            I highly recommend it. The ORIGINAL software was brilliant, easy to navigate, easy to work with and very user friendly...the new software has this gaudy (read: ugly) font, the colors are ugly, the library's a fucking mess if you have multiple artist compilation CDs (soundtracks, tribute albums, et al...I have numerous of both)...

            The old Zune I would have recommended to anyone at any time, but...for whatever reason, Microsoft sent out an update that essentially didn't work properly (don't they have BETA TESTERS?!?), never sent any warning that it was going to completely re-design the unit's working layout, and just said " Well, sorry if you don't like it, but hey...what are your choices? "

            Bottom line is that this is NOT what I paid for after I had it demonstrated to me, but having had it for over a year now, I guess I'm by and large pretty well fucked. Microsoft won't fix it (or can't), won't replace it (wouldn't do any good if they did, either) and I can't return it to the store and get something else.

            No options, other than give it to the wife or sell it on ebay...and the wife may as well use it considering I wouldn't get what I put into it originally, you know?

            Honestly, I feel like Microsoft attempted to take over my Zune and say "Well, yeah...you ORIGINALLY bought it...but really, let's face facts here...it's really OURS still, you know. Just a heads up for ya."

            The Zune message board has something like a 900 page thread of people furious as all hell about this...since LAST MONTH...

            Now that right there is proof of a fuck up on a HUGE scale.
            Yeah, I really like my iPod, but the batteries tend to suck on the older ones. Eleven hours of music? Uh, no...

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            • bueno bob
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Jul 2004
              • 22942

              #7
              Well, that's the one plus side of the update, if there was one...the battery power seems to have doubled, I literally left it on for a week (not constantly playing music, but...).

              Still had half the battery left, so...I guess that was a plus, all in all.
              Twistin' by the pool.

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              • Nitro Express
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 32798

                #8
                Originally posted by bueno bob
                Unfortunately, no...

                Just know where to look!
                The redhead is really hot!

                Vista, Zune, all suck. They have gotten away with selling shit for so long they figure they can continue to get away with it. Apple and Google are going to eat their lunch.
                No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                • Coyote
                  ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 8185

                  #9
                  Fuck Microsoft.

                  I LOVE my Creative MuVo... Simple, no updates required and it fits nicely in my pocket.
                  Why settle for something you have, if it's not as good as something you're out to get?

                  Originally posted by Seshmeister
                  It's like putting up a YouTube of Bach and playing Chopstix on your Bontempi...

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                  • scamper
                    Commando
                    • May 2005
                    • 1073

                    #10
                    Originally posted by bueno bob
                    so I think she's getting a new Zune really quick...
                    Why would she get one if you're telling everyone else not to.

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                    • BITEYOASS
                      ROTH ARMY ELITE
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 6530

                      #11
                      Fuck even Sandisk is kicking microsoft's ass in mp3s.

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                      • Nitro Express
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 32798

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Coyote
                        Fuck Microsoft.

                        I LOVE my Creative MuVo... Simple, no updates required and it fits nicely in my pocket.
                        The Creative player was the only one that would work on the summit of Everest. Even the mighty iPod wouldn't work after the tempurature abuse.
                        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                        • scamper
                          Commando
                          • May 2005
                          • 1073

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Nitro Express
                          The Creative player was the only one that would work on the summit of Everest. Even the mighty iPod wouldn't work after the tempurature abuse.
                          A little CVH at the top of the world.

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                          • bueno bob
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 22942

                            #14
                            Originally posted by scamper
                            Why would she get one if you're telling everyone else not to.
                            Like I said, she only has a handful of CDs (9, I believe). None of them are various artist compilations, which is where most of the overwriting by the new software has a tendancy to occur. By way of comparison, I have in the vicinity of 200 CDs worth of multiple artist compilations (tribute albums, soundtracks, genre/year compilations, etc). In her case, she'll most likely be fine, but in mine...I have more difficulty getting things to function.

                            On top of that, the Zune is still a pretty decent video player and she has an 8 gig already, so if nothing else it should still be of some value as a am/fm radio and a video player. She can keep the 8 gig for the music.

                            For me, though, unless I figure out a solution here really, really quick, I'm just going to say "Fuck it" and hand it over to her...
                            Twistin' by the pool.

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                            • BITEYOASS
                              ROTH ARMY ELITE
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 6530

                              #15
                              The one thing I like about my Sandisk 512MB is that it's cheap, has a graphic equalizer and uses AAA batteries.

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