The Joke That is The Michigan Primary

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  • LoungeMachine
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Jul 2004
    • 32576

    The Joke That is The Michigan Primary

    Q&A on Tuesday's Michigan primary

    By ALICE WERTHEIM
    The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

    Published on: 01/14/08

    Q: What's at stake in the Michigan primary?

    A: Not much. Michigan's state parties broke national party rules by moving the primary, so it has been stripped of delegates by the national parties. The Republicans will be electing 30 delegates, the Democrats 0.

    Q: Who's on the ballot?

    A: All Republican presidential candidates are on the ballot. Hillary Clinton, Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel are the Democratic choices.


    Q: How does this affect the voters?

    A: Supporters can cast an "uncommitted" vote for Barack Obama or John Edwards, who removed their names from the ballot because of the primary controversy.


    Q: Why was the primary moved up?

    A: Michigan Sen. Carl Levin supported the move as a way to make the large state play a more important role than the demographically smaller states of Iowa and New Hampshire.


    Q: Will Michigan voters have any voice in selecting a presidential nominee?

    A: Both state parties say that they will regain delegates at the national conventions. Levin maintains that Michigan's 156 Democratic delegates will be seated at the National Convention in August. National party rules require Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada to hold the earliest primaries. Seating the delegates would allow states like Michigan and Florida to challenge and change those rules.


    Q: Has Michigan always had a primary?

    A: Michigan has a long history of changing its rules for presidential primaries. In 2003, the legislature voted to suspend the 2004 primary.


    Q: How does Michigan compare to other states?

    A: It is the eighth most populous state, with 10,071,822 people and has a 7.4 per cent unemployment rate, the highest in the United States.


    2004 PRESIDENTIAL RESULTS

    John Kerry 51 percent, George W. Bush, 48 percent


    ELECTORAL VOTES: 17


    MICHIGAN QUICK FACTS:

    — Trying to diversify its economy and shed Rust Belt image, but remains closely tied to the struggling auto industry.

    — November unemployment rate of 7.4 percent was highest nationally and more than 50 percent above the national average.

    _ Home of the Rotharmy Moderator ALinCHainz

    — Second in the nation in home mortgage delinquencies and third in foreclosure inventory in the third quarter of 2007, according to the Mortgage Bankers Association.

    — Nation's top producer of tart cherries. Also among national leaders for prepared cereals, machine tools, refrigerators and furniture.

    — Has 11,000 inland lakes, 36,000 streams and is the only state adjoining four of the five Great Lakes.


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  • hideyoursheep
    ROTH ARMY ELITE
    • Jan 2007
    • 6351

    #2



    'Nuff said.

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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 58783

      #3
      Michigan voters, please mark your ballots for DENNIS KUCINICH.

      Why?

      To keep more than two candidates in the running. In the debates. On the TV.

      As of right now, 98% of this country has not voted. Neither Hillary or Obama has earned a nomination, nor should either of them have one handed to them.

      If you supported Dodd, Biden, Richardson, or Gravel, they dropped out, because the media and corporations wouldn't let them compete fairly. If you supported them, vote for Dennis.

      If you support John Edwards, he also is not on the Michigan ballot. A vote for Dennis Kucinich benefits Edwards as well. Because if the media whores are FORCED to include Dennis in their coverage as the winner of the Michigan primary, they won't exclude Edwards.

      And for what it's worth, I'm rooting for Edwards to take South Carolina.
      Eat Us And Smile

      Cenk For America 2024!!

      Justice Democrats


      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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      • Blackflag
        Banned
        • Apr 2006
        • 3406

        #4
        Originally posted by FORD

        As of right now, 98% of this country has not voted. Neither Hillary or Obama has earned a nomination, nor should either of them have one handed to them.
        On the radio (NPR), they were asking some douchebags in SC who they were voting for... They said, "if Obama is good enough for the people in Iowa, he's good enough for us."

        That's the importance of IA/NH - people are such fucking drones that they'll follow whatever the first two vote for.

        Fuck, that pisses me off. Fucking country of drones.

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        • sadaist
          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
          • Jul 2004
          • 11625

          #5
          Watching the news reports on the Michigan primary I suddenly realized that Mitt Romney looks exactly like Bruce Campbell.
          “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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          • Deklon
            Roadie
            • Jul 2007
            • 103

            #6
            "That's the importance of IA/NH - people are such fucking drones that they'll follow whatever the first two vote for."

            Ummm, Didn't NH basically do the exact opposite of Iowa? And didn't Michigan do the exact opposite of NH AND Iowa?

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            • Blackflag
              Banned
              • Apr 2006
              • 3406

              #7
              Originally posted by Deklon

              Ummm, Didn't NH basically do the exact opposite of Iowa? And didn't Michigan do the exact opposite of NH AND Iowa?
              You're right, Hillary didn't find much support in MI...

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              • Deklon
                Roadie
                • Jul 2007
                • 103

                #8
                That wasn't my point. You said that the drones do whatever the people before them did. I was just pointing out that it was actually the complete oposite.

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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49203

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Blackflag
                  You're right, Hillary didn't find much support in MI...
                  She was the only one effectively running...

                  The Dems boycotted it...

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                  • Blackflag
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 3406

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                    She was the only one effectively running...

                    The Dems boycotted it...
                    I read that people voted 'undecided' to effectively vote against her. But she still got 55%.

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                    • Nickdfresh
                      SUPER MODERATOR

                      • Oct 2004
                      • 49203

                      #11
                      Of course, but the only people who showed up really gave a shit about casting a vote for her...

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                      • Blackflag
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 3406

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                        Of course, but the only people who showed up really gave a shit about casting a vote for her...
                        How can you say that when half of the people didn't vote for her?

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