Brett, vhlinks emperor, sheds some light on VH/Eddie situation

[Vinnie Velvet]

Here's what Brett posted:

Current VH Situation - From My Sources

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Ok I started a new topic, not because what VT posted isn’t true per se, but because the tone of that thread just became a mess of confusion.

I think what we fail to realize in all of this is Van Halen has always been a very private band. Well before the internet, the band normally kept their private lives to themselves, which is why it’s sometimes hard to find out info about their past history. I mean even when Dave left the band, while people knew about it, it certainly wasn’t the headline news it would be now with the net, etc. It just happened and that was it. Very little fanfare about something that was pretty big music news at the time. For those of us who remember that time, I know you will agree with me.

So now everyone expects the band to change from that same belief of privacy in this new age, and they’re simply not going to. Has it backfired on the band over the years? Yes no question. But at the same time, I do believe everyone has a right to their privacy, even celebrities. Certainly dealing with addictions and health issues is not something that I would be running to share with anyone, famous or not. So try to remember that when you scream for info, I know it’s hard. As fans we feel we are owed more than that, and I myself have felt that way many times I know.

I don’t know whether Ed was in rehab or not, and frankly I don’t care anymore. I had pretty credible info of something that many others also had (like Andrew for Melodicrock), but maybe it was false info. Or maybe some things were exaggerated. I simply don’t know at this point, and it’s not worth debating.

But from time to time I do get interesting info from people very close to the band. Sometimes I can share it, other times I am asked not to. I haven’t really gotten anything in a long time, so when I do, I know it’s important and it’s NEVER been wrong.

From the info I got, here’s what I can say confidently.

Eddie is not currently in rehab, he’s at home taking care of himself, and dealing with whatever medical conditions are affecting him right now. It sounds like he’s doing well, but who knows. I hope he is.

The tour has not been cancelled, Mike is not returning to Van Halen anytime soon. Wolfgang is VH’s bassist. Any reports of Mike coming back are 100% false.

With regards to Val’s book. I don’t even know what importance this plays in anything, but apparently Ed has not read it. It also doesn’t sound like it’s any part of the reason VH isn’t playing right now either. I never thought it was, but some did. I also heard that Valerie doesn’t have any idea about Ed’s current health, so I guess her claims that she does may be coming through what she hears from her son, at least that’s what I am guessing. Again, is this really important in the grand scheme of things?

So pretty much the same stuff VT said, and I feel good about the information I have gotten. I didn’t really ask any other questions, I didn’t think it was my place to. It sounds to me like the reason the band doesn’t officially release this kind of information is they probably don’t believe it’s the kind of stuff they want out there as official news direct from them. Like I said, and like you know, Van Halen has always guarded their private info. Easier to leak stuff out unofficially, whether we like it or not.

I hope this has shed some light on things. I guess what we can take from this is Ed is seeking help for his current problems and VH plans on continuing their tour as of right now. About all the info I think we need.
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[Apocalypso]

My take on this whole thing on VH Links is that Janie / the Van Halen PR machine aka damage control is using people like Venom Thrust and probably whoever Brett got his info from to spin Eddie's problems into something less than some sort of messy booze/drug relapse in a rather cheesy effort to bypass dealing with the press or putting out any sort of public statement and ultimately salvage what's left of the tour.

You read the thread started by Venom Thrust from yesterday, it's obvious, especially if you know his odd stalker-esque relationship with Janie (he was comped a pair of tickets by her for last year's Anaheim show) that he was fed specific comments to post on VH Links not only as damage control for Eddie (and the tour) but more tellingly, to address comments and opinions about herself and Valerie's current standing with Eddie (basically, Val's making false statements and is completely out of the loop) to the point the rings on Eddie's fingers are identified and it's made clear that Liszewski has never acted in a porn movie (although she appeared in a documentary called "Dildo Diaries" and as a "wet t shirt girl" in some teen slob comedy). Just a wee bit o' insecurcity there, Janie?

One of the key denials made by VT was that Eddie "is not in rehab" despite several fairly reliable sources indicating that he indeed went back in after the 2/20 show for either booze or drugs. Rather amusingly, Brett was one of the guys most vocal about the fact that Eddie *was* at some point in rehab recently.

Today, you have Brett now basically parroting the same info as VT and playing down any sort of recent rehab ("it doesn't matter") for Eddie.

And then you have someone like Andrew at Melodicrock with his "sources" basically saying Ed is pretty fucked up, has been and may still be in rehab, plus he's dealing with his other medical issue (most agree it has something to do with Ed's hearing and equilibrium) and the rest of the tour is all but doomed at this point.

The point is, it's pretty clear VH management is using a few people close to the band filtering down to several willing mouthpieces on a VH internet message board to spread their spin in a crude, clumsy attempt to bypass making public statements.

T.B.

[Apocalypso]

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[Pasadena Bunnie]

I don't think for a minute think that Val "doesn't know" what's happening with Ed. I think she knows and she has made her statement on Ed's proactive situation and how proud she is of him.....I buy it, whether it has to do with Rehab or other health concerns.

So be it, that VH will stay tight-lipped on the situation at hand. Of course, DLR won't be talking to press about it....

I think for some of us, we'll come to our own conclusions (which will probably be somewhat on target) and so be it. Some of us will not give up hope that the tour will resume once Ed's health and mind are in a better state. Some will say the hell w/this band...enough drama!

Bottomline is that I hope for Ed to get well (mind, body & soul)....and take the quality time to do so. After reading Val's book, I'm convinced that Ed needs therapy as well as Rehab. At the end of her book, she adds a note to Ed that I think is eloquent:


"Ed - you are a good man, believe it. When you do, you will be free. I love you."


I applaud Ed for having completed at least 40 some odd gigs....(some of them he was obviously intoxicated - 1 out of 5 that I went to, he was intoxicated...Las Vegas Gig) but for the most part, its alot to put on someone "fresh" out of Rehab as he was last year. Today, one year later, we assume it's the same scenario....nonetheless, he and the rest of this "NEW" VH Band have my solid support. You can bet that whatever the situation is, Ed has the support of Al, Dave & most importantly, Wolfie.


Just my $0.02 on it...

[DLR'sCock]

Too bad for all of the people who spent alot of money on travel plans to see the band.

[binnie]

I wonder what 'The Guy' thinks about all of this? :D

[Pasadena Bunnie]

Originally posted by DLR'sCock
Too bad for all of the people who spent alot of money on travel plans to see the band.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20183708,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines


Okay, so it's not a Rehab issue.... :confused:

[ELVIS]

Whatever the case, it's sad...

Dave was 100% on top of his game during the tour and to the best of his ability gave us more than a glimpse of what real Van Halen was...

His performances night after night were impressive...

His vocals at the Seattle show were nothing short of awesome, chilling at times, making the songs sound so close to their original magic...

I spent quite a bit of money on that trip and it was worth it...

But still, I feel Dave compromised a lot going out with Wolf and a sub-par Edward, but Ed had some good nights, so all was not lost. But even the best performances were lacking without Michael Anthony, in my personal opinion...

But I still have my hopes up of Edward getting the help he needs and getting his head and his health together and eventually giving us what he is ultimately capable of...

Although one of my concerns now is how much more of this is Dave willing to put up with...

I imagine he's been pretty pissed off at times, but he rolled the dice and got what more than a few of us predicted...

I hope and pray for Edward's health and well being and wish him all the best. Not just so I can get some good music to listen to, it's deeper than that for me and most of the real fans...

I've had my own battles with drugs and alcohol and lasted one day out of rehab, so...

It's hard, but not impossible...

Edward can do it!


:elvis:

[Panamark]

Maybe he has joint problems with his hands ??
Who the hell knows, if he is not in Rehab it doesnt
sound like drinking is the issue...

[Apocalypso]

My personal take on all this is that Eddie has issues that'll dog him for his entire life, part of which is his ongoing battles with booze/substance abuse and of course, his declining health and abilities after decades of playing high volume rock n' roll. You add to that this whole system of enablers and bottom-feeders willing to do whatever quick fix needed to keep him touring and making money right now and the odds are just incredibly stacked against him living to a decent retirement age, much less even having a healthy mindset short term.

Considering what kind of dire condition he was rumored to be in around late 2006 before he did the pre-tour rehab stint, especially based on Dave's own words in that LA Times interview, it's amazing and perhaps a bit sad that while we as fans got a mostly excellent string of shows this past 8 months, it's probably going to wind up being Ed's swan song at least as a touring musician as we've know him.

T.B.

[PlexiBrown]

Even this mess is better than Van Hagar.

[Nickdfresh]

We need Ford to go back to the Links and call him "Anal Thrust." :)

[Bob Brubake]

Originally posted by PlexiBrown
Even this mess is better than Van Hagar.

Van Hagar never cancelled/postponed a tour though. Obviously Ed has some serious issues, whatever they may be. I'm still hanging on to my tickets for St. Louis(twice postponed). I'm afraid the end is near though. I just want to see them 1 more time. I'm not sure if it will happen.
Maybe Ed's got another porno in the works? Whoops, did I say Porno? I meant a movie with sex scenes in it.

[Panamark]

Originally posted by Bob Brubake
Van Hagar never cancelled/postponed a tour though.

Nah, they simply stopped playing altogether when they could
no longer stand each other. Eddie hated Hagar and vice versa
ended the 2004 tour. But you knew that already didnt ya ! ;)

[Apocalypso]

Originally posted by Bob Brubake
Van Hagar never cancelled/postponed a tour though.

While they didn't postpone entire chunks of a tour, Van "Hagar" cancelled or postponed numerous individual shows throughout their original run between '86 - '95.

And seriously, the '04 tour should have ended after the August LA area shows. Adding that last batch of 20-odd shows was rediculous and recklessly greedy considering the condition Eddie had deteriorated to by that point.

T.B.

[ELVIS]

An the '07 Tour should have ended at the end of 'oh seven...


"e;vis"

[Terry]

Originally posted by ELVIS
Whatever the case, it's sad...

Dave was 100% on top of his game during the tour and to the best of his ability gave us more than a glimpse of what real Van Halen was...

His performances night after night were impressive...

His vocals at the Seattle show were nothing short of awesome, chilling at times, making the songs sound so close to their original magic...

I spent quite a bit of money on that trip and it was worth it...

But still, I feel Dave compromised a lot going out with Wolf and a sub-par Edward, but Ed had some good nights, so all was not lost. But even the best performances were lacking without Michael Anthony, in my personal opinion...

But I still have my hopes up of Edward getting the help he needs and getting his head and his health together and eventually giving us what he is ultimately capable of...

Although one of my concerns now is how much more of this is Dave willing to put up with...

I imagine he's been pretty pissed off at times, but he rolled the dice and got what more than a few of us predicted...

I hope and pray for Edward's health and well being and wish him all the best. Not just so I can get some good music to listen to, it's deeper than that for me and most of the real fans...

I've had my own battles with drugs and alcohol and lasted one day out of rehab, so...

It's hard, but not impossible...

Edward can do it!


:elvis:

Near 100% with all of those thoughts and sentiments...

Personally, I could give a toss about who has the 'inside scoop' on the band.

It seems a shame that the tour started off so strong and ended up like this. Dave focused and put in a lot of work to make sure his role and parts live were done to the maximum of his ability, and it showed.

Ed's a mess. Has been for a while. Some of the stuff he suffers from was probably out of his control, but nobody (not even the most ardent EVH nutlicker from the links) can really deny that the guy just plain didn't take care of himself the way he should.

If Ed still has a problem with drink and drugs and wants to kick the habit, he can.

I have to admit I'm selfish, and when I went to see the band I wanted the best Eddie had to offer...give me the best of what he's got...and my feeling is he didn't (for whatever reason) have it in him to do so.

Hope the dude gets his act together.

[Apocalypso]

Originally posted by Terry
Near 100% with all of those thoughts and sentiments...

Personally, I could give a toss about who has the 'inside scoop' on the band.

It seems a shame that the tour started off so strong and ended up like this. Dave focused and put in a lot of work to make sure his role and parts live were done to the maximum of his ability, and it showed.

Ed's a mess. Has been for a while. Some of the stuff he suffers from was probably out of his control, but nobody (not even the most ardent EVH nutlicker from the links) can really deny that the guy just plain didn't take care of himself the way he should.

If Ed still has a problem with drink and drugs and wants to kick the habit, he can.

I have to admit I'm selfish, and when I went to see the band I wanted the best Eddie had to offer...give me the best of what he's got...and my feeling is he didn't (for whatever reason) have it in him to do so.

Hope the dude gets his act together.


I really think at this point Eddie is destined to remain an occasionally "functioning" alcohol/drug user. You consider all that he's dealt with and lost over the past decade, that should have been plenty to motivate him to at least make a better attempt at staying clean and sober. The thing is, some people just can't do it long term no matter how hard they try or what they have (or had) to lose. Couple that with his ever-increasing health issues and close friends and relatives that are probably fried from years of trying to help him get straight topped up with an entourage of enablers and sycophants looking to do whatever it takes to keep him on the road making money and you get someone like a Johnny Thunders or perhaps even Kurt Cobain.

T.B.

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
Here's what Brett posted:

So now everyone expects the band to change from that same belief of privacy in this new age, and they’re simply not going to. Has it backfired on the band over the years? Yes no question. But at the same time, I do believe everyone has a right to their privacy, even celebrities.

I'm ok with that up until the point the celebrity fucks people up with their actions and then doesn't explain them truthfully.

Whilst the band were in hiatus or whatever fine everyone speculates, whatever.

When they start charging hundreds of dollars for even a basic ticket, charge lots of cash for mediocre merchandising products and crazy prices for 'VIP' packages to squeeze as much out of their customers and then cancel their customers deserve an explanation.

I bet there are plenty of people(I was nearly one of them) who spent hundreds of NON REFUNDABLE dollars on flights, hotels or whatever to go and see them.

Anyone dumb enough to spend a lot of time on the internet at sites like this and Bretts are wise enough by this point to know that paying for travel, hotels or even the inconvenince of booking babysitters for a show involving Van Halen is a crapshoot gamble but that makes up a small percentage of the people the people that have bought tickets to their shows.

Cheers!

:gulp:

[rustoffa]

I'm glad that someone is connected to the true goings on in VHLAND. It's nice to hear that Ed is getting the medical help he may or may not need, and Live Nation isn't going to fuck this tour up the ass.

Thanks!

[WARF]

I'm having a blast over there... posting back as Women And Roth First!!

I got alot of people calling for my head already...

I haven't had this much fun since over a dozen of my Diamond Mafia members were banned at the dome for dissing Van Halen!!!

This is great.... lol

Some dude said Ed should say to mikey....

"We're just humans being... and skake hands!!!" lol

I love the links man...

There is so much pussy over there,,,

You know... cuz you know...

Its mostly females who like Van Hagar anyways...

I'm gonna score me a VAN HAGAR bitch!!!

I'm gonna start a reality show at vhlinks....

Which bitch holds the KEY TO WARF'S heart????

WILL LOVE COME WALKING IN????

lol

Find out soon at vhlinks!!!

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by WARF
I'm gonna start a reality show at vhlinks....

Which bitch holds the KEY TO WARF'S heart????

WILL LOVE COME WALKING IN????

lol

Find out soon at vhlinks!!!

That's about the only thing that would make that shithole worth reading.

:D

[RAY4583]

I got two things to say re. all of this nonsense: 1) BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH And,...2) BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHA At least they finished the tour with Sammy. More than you can say about the tour with David Gay Roth, huh Bueno Boob?

[RAY4583]

I got two things to say re. all of this nonsense: 1) BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH And,...2) BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHA At least they finished their tour in '04 with Sammy. More than you can say about the current tour with David Gay Roth, huh Bueno Boob?

[WARF]

Originally posted by bueno bob
That's about the only thing that would make that shithole worth reading.

:D

LOL
Dude... I got like 3 or 4 girls that fucking hate me dude....

But one of those fine young ladies is gonna get the WARFCOCK!!

What should we call the show?

Love Walks In: The WARF Reality Show

Do It Til We're Black N Blue

Face Down In Cabo, Kissin' WARF's cock

WARF's Spanked Line

Suggestions???

[Nitro Express]

The bottom line is Ed has drank a lot of booze and smoked a lot of cigarettes since he was 12 years old. When you hit your mid 50's doing that shit as much as he has, you pay the piper or the grim reaper. If Ed says he doesn't feel 100% gee, just think of what the man's lungs must look like.

[Nitro Express]

Ed's brother Alex was a wreck as well and he beat his demons. Alex is sober. Ed has his son and his brother. It's not like the man is alone. He sounds like a stubborn son of a bitch though.

The guy has been unstable for years. He hasn't been consistant since 1996. He's a mental wreck.

[DavidLeeNatra]

why do I have to read that sheep-shit here? there is a reason why there is a place called "links" and why people post their "jaddajadda" there...

keep the house clean...

[DrMaddVibe]

Was Brett "parroting" in FLAC or MP3?

[binnie]

Originally posted by RAY4583
I got two things to say re. all of this nonsense: 1) BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH And,...2) BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHA At least they finished the tour with Sammy. More than you can say about the tour with David Gay Roth, huh Bueno Boob?

What does that prove?

Is Dave the reason that this tour has been postponed? Was Sammy the reason the 04 tour was completed? No in both cases.

This isn't a Dave vs Spam issue. It's an Ed issue.

[Polk High]

anyone considering the cancer is back and has spread to the brain?

If this is the case we may never see him play again, he may be the next Warren Zevon

[WhoCares?]

What is this shit, a soap opera named "All My Van Halens"?

Let's cut the bullshit. I don't care what Val says. I don't care what so & so says. I don't care what secretive BS & approved info the VH camp puts out

The fact of the matter is VH announced to the world they were on tour. People spent tons of their hard earned money to see them. And now they're fucking them

Eddie is a mental midget, a drunk, a drug addict. They had no right to announce a tour when they knew they probably couldn't fufill their obligations

I don't blame Roth, I blame the VH's & their fucked up management

All this "poor Eddie" & "I hope he gets well" BS is just that, bullshit

Face it folks, Eddie ain't going to get better. He's a complete & total idiot & fuck up

I don't give a shit about this ongoing soap opera consisting of multi-millionaire prima donna's & their ongoing excuses about why Eddie can't perform

These cocksuckers have no idea what it means to get out of bed every morning & go to work. They have no idea what work really is

Poor Eddie Van Halen, his monitor isn't loud enough or his guitar wasn't tuned properley, so let's fly into an alcohol fueled rage. Let's go beserk & act like the spoiled fuck you are

You people can play this game & speculate all you want about what's happening

I know what's happening. Eddie doesn't have the mental capacity to run a band. He never has. He needed Roth to run things in the old days & he needed Spammy to do the same

Then, like the mental freak he is, he gets mad, gets fucked up & the whole thing explodes

All I know is I have tickets to a show that will propably never happen

Eddie, Alex & their management knew Eddie's a walking time bomb. Professionals don't do this. After the fans spent millions on tickets, travel & hotels, Eddie decides he wants to go home

Eddie's in rhab. He's getting medical help. He's burned out. BS, I'm not buying any of it

He's a drug & alcohol addicted freak with the brain capacity of a child

If Van Halen had any integrity, this is how their press release would read..

"Eddie Van Halen is a fucktard. He's an idiot that we can't depend on. We're sorry we led the fans on"

[DavidLeeNatra]

Originally posted by WhoCares?
What is this shit, a soap opera named "All My Van Halens"?

Let's cut the bullshit. I don't care what Val says. I don't care what so & so says. I don't care what secretive BS & approved info the VH camp puts out

The fact of the matter is VH announced to the world they were on tour. People spent tons of their hard earned money to see them. And now they're fucking them

Eddie is a mental midget, a drunk, a drug addict. They had no right to announce a tour when they knew they probably couldn't fufill their obligations

I don't blame Roth, I blame the VH's & their fucked up management

All this "poor Eddie" & "I hope he gets well" BS is just that, bullshit

Face it folks, Eddie ain't going to get better. He's a complete & total idiot & fuck up

I don't give a shit about this ongoing soap opera consisting of multi-millionaire prima donna's & their ongoing excuses about why Eddie can't perform

These cocksuckers have no idea what it means to get out of bed every morning & go to work. They have no idea what work really is

Poor Eddie Van Halen, his monitor isn't loud enough or his guitar wasn't tuned properley, so let's fly into an alcohol fueled rage. Let's go beserk & act like the spoiled fuck you are

You people can play this game & speculate all you want about what's happening

I know what's happening. Eddie doesn't have the mental capacity to run a band. He never has. He needed Roth to run things in the old days & he needed Spammy to do the same

Then, like the mental freak he is, he gets mad, gets fucked up & the whole thing explodes

All I know is I have tickets to a show that will propably never happen

Eddie, Alex & their management knew Eddie's a walking time bomb. Professionals don't do this. After the fans spent millions on tickets, travel & hotels, Eddie decides he wants to go home

Eddie's in rhab. He's getting medical help. He's burned out. BS, I'm not buying any of it

He's a drug & alcohol addicted freak with the brain capacity of a child

If Van Halen had any integrity, this is how their press release would read..

"Eddie Van Halen is a fucktard. He's an idiot that we can't depend on. We're sorry we led the fans on"

great post, newbie...that pretty much sums it up!

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Actually, that's well said...

[Pasadena Bunnie]

KUDOS to WhoCares? - Thanks for putting me in-check w/my previous posts....I was having sympathy there for a minute and you're absolutely right.

I also spent $$ on the '07 tour to see them 5x and had to cancel plans for airline/hotel reservations for 2 upcoming gigs...and there are always "cancellation fees" that I have to eat. (And this story is not unique....so many other fans, as you've pointed out, are going thru the same scenario.)

I gave the Tiger Woods gig a thought....but after thinking about it, is it really worth going thru the trouble to attend, even if it's the last gig they play???

[Nickdfresh]

"They said you left 'to be a movie star' – they told me something like, 'with Dave, we were a Model T, but with Sammy, we're gonna be an SST.' What surprised me most was, when I talked to you guys six years ago or so, there seemed to be some camaraderie between you all that some of the band members now seem to be denying. I thought that might've hurt you, personally – hurt your feelings.

--Well, you know, the guys go on about how they were so miserable for these past 10, 12 years, the music was substandard, now they're gonna go on and everything is just wonderful, and they hated it for the last 12 years...Poor Edward Van Halen – forced to live a lie! Struggling to survive the onslaught of Masaratis! Forced to survive Lamborghini after Lamborghini! Can you imagine the mental stress the poor kid must be feeling?"

--David Lee Roth in Creme Magazine circa 1986

[Terry]

Originally posted by RAY4583
I got two things to say re. all of this nonsense: 1) BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH And,...2) BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHA At least they finished their tour in '04 with Sammy. More than you can say about the current tour with David Gay Roth, huh Bueno Boob?

Yeah, but if you don't give two shits about the band unless Roth is in it, who really cares about what happened in 2004?

Putz

[chi-town324]

They should have done the first leg and then taken 6 months off....playing every other night when your in your fifties has to take its toll drunk or not...luckily, they hit Chicago at the beginning, and played great i guess i was one of the lucky ones to see them early in the tour..hell, wait until next fall if need be and start over...

[Pasadena Bunnie]

Originally posted by RAY4583
I got two things to say re. all of this nonsense: 1) BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH And,...2) BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHA At least they finished the tour with Sammy. More than you can say about the tour with David Gay Roth, huh Bueno Boob?


GAY4583...how old are you?
:rolleyes:

Save it for your peeps at the links.;)

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by WhoCares?
What is this shit, a soap opera named "All My Van Halens"?

Let's cut the bullshit. I don't care what Val says. I don't care what so & so says. I don't care what secretive BS & approved info the VH camp puts out

The fact of the matter is VH announced to the world they were on tour. People spent tons of their hard earned money to see them. And now they're fucking them

Eddie is a mental midget, a drunk, a drug addict. They had no right to announce a tour when they knew they probably couldn't fufill their obligations

I don't blame Roth, I blame the VH's & their fucked up management

All this "poor Eddie" & "I hope he gets well" BS is just that, bullshit

Face it folks, Eddie ain't going to get better. He's a complete & total idiot & fuck up

I don't give a shit about this ongoing soap opera consisting of multi-millionaire prima donna's & their ongoing excuses about why Eddie can't perform

These cocksuckers have no idea what it means to get out of bed every morning & go to work. They have no idea what work really is

Poor Eddie Van Halen, his monitor isn't loud enough or his guitar wasn't tuned properley, so let's fly into an alcohol fueled rage. Let's go beserk & act like the spoiled fuck you are

You people can play this game & speculate all you want about what's happening

I know what's happening. Eddie doesn't have the mental capacity to run a band. He never has. He needed Roth to run things in the old days & he needed Spammy to do the same

Then, like the mental freak he is, he gets mad, gets fucked up & the whole thing explodes

All I know is I have tickets to a show that will propably never happen

Eddie, Alex & their management knew Eddie's a walking time bomb. Professionals don't do this. After the fans spent millions on tickets, travel & hotels, Eddie decides he wants to go home

Eddie's in rhab. He's getting medical help. He's burned out. BS, I'm not buying any of it

He's a drug & alcohol addicted freak with the brain capacity of a child

If Van Halen had any integrity, this is how their press release would read..

"Eddie Van Halen is a fucktard. He's an idiot that we can't depend on. We're sorry we led the fans on"

GREAT POST!

The sad thing is there are people at that site with literally 10s of thousands of posts who have analysed every aspect of this fucked up band for 20 years saying 'Oh thank you for these scraps of information' or 'God Bless Eddie I really hope he somehow can manage to somehow manage to play for us again' or 'I miss Sammy'.

Fanboy dumb as shit ex failed jock gulllible sub Al Bundy lifestyle mediocre PTA committee member fuckwits.

It's understandable from 13 year old girls masturbating to the latest Simon Cowell boyband creation but these people are on the wrong side of 35 for fuck sake.

Jesus suffering cunt!

It makes me feel like a sad prick even knowing they exist.

Cheers!

:gulp:

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Panamark
Maybe he has joint problems with his hands ??


Yeah, they can't put down the bottle.

:gulp:

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by RAY4583
I got two things to say re. all of this nonsense: 1) BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH And,...2) BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHA At least they finished their tour in '04 with Sammy. More than you can say about the current tour with David Gay Roth, huh Bueno Boob?

I'm sorry...and you are...? :confused:

Just trying to get to know you better before I own your ass into the dirt.

:)

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by WhoCares?
What is this shit, a soap opera named "All My Van Halens"?

etc etc

Five fucking stars well earned!

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by WARF
LOL
Dude... I got like 3 or 4 girls that fucking hate me dude....

But one of those fine young ladies is gonna get the WARFCOCK!!

What should we call the show?

Love Walks In: The WARF Reality Show

Do It Til We're Black N Blue

Face Down In Cabo, Kissin' WARF's cock

WARF's Spanked Line

Suggestions???


Women in Love: all these crazy women, one crazy WARF

[bigdaddyb]

my 2 cents is either he's suffering from tinnitus like Pete Townshend and it's throwing his hearing and equlibrium off and makes him appear to be intoxicated.
Or the hand issue could also be a scenario.
I noticed this by watching old clips when he picks, the torque on his wrist was like lightning and he held the pick between his thumb and index finger now he's downstroking all his notes in his solos.

Age just seems to be catching up to Ed so I just wish him the best and hope to see the band back out and kicking ass again in April.

[hideyoursheep]

There may be something to that, but it sure as shit isn't everything.

[hideyoursheep]

Originally posted by WARF
I'm gonna score me a VAN HAGAR bitch!!!


It'll never last.:rolleyes:

You'd have to feed her/it that fucked-up tequilla.

You'd be giving Sausage McHaggis money.



YOU'D BE CUNTRIBUTING TO THE ENEMY!!





:eek:








Whatever happens at the Links, stays at the links.:p



Just don't bring back some kind of Cabo Wabo Crotch Rot when
you return.




Use protection...

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o35/renebean319/557955854_m.jpg
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc172/480sparky/hearingprotection.jpghttp://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p25/Tallowood_Air/shopping%20list/gloves.jpghttp://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k258/MinisterofOffense/CattleProd.jpg




Play nice!:p

[DavidLeeNatra]

Originally posted by hideyoursheep
Whatever happens at the Links, stays at the links.:p

unfortunately not...

[Brettt]

I should also shed some light on how much the Rothtard Army sucks balls.

What a bunch of cry babies.

http://jackdawfool.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/crybaby.jpg

[imasmf]

I only cry like this:



http://jackdawfool.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/crybaby.jpg

When I see pics like this:
<img src="http://www.rgj.com/blogs/calendar/uploaded_images/hagar-773464.jpg" style="width: 300px; height: 400px;">

It scares me badly!

[Nitro Express]

I still think Val's book was the catalyst that set Ed off. Just look at the timing. They guy is doing great until the book releases. Cancer just doesn't jump out and bite your ass overnight. Most people don't even know they have cancer until it's in the advanced stages. So I'm not buying the cancer thing and cancer isn't going to make the dude act like a fuckup on stage.

Either the dude had an nervous fucking breakdown in Florida or he fell off the wagon again. Ed Van Halen needs to spend some time on Dr. Drew's celebrity rehab. LOL!

Val divorced Eddie. He wanted to remain married to her but he was such a fuckup she couldn't take it anymore. Val said Ed's last rehab counciler was a total quack that just told Ed what he wanted to hear while smoking cigarettes.

I think Ed still has emotional ties to Vallerie and the divorce, the book, plus having Wolfie between them all adds up to some emotional turbulence. Ed probably pounded some porn skanks but Val was his mother figure and she's gone and hey, it's hard to see your former wife shape up and bang another dude. Ed probably stil misses pounding Val's ass.

[Nitro Express]

Ed used to be a professional. Give me a fucking break. How many times did the monitors, PA, guitar equipment fail in the early days of VH? I'm sure a ton. Ed used to keep his cool in those days. Roth was the only person who barked at the soundman and a lot of that I'm sure was to add some zest to the show.

Shit breaks down. I'm sure VH is using the best equipment on the road with multiple backups. It's not like they are using a Beringer Hecho En Cambodia PA with cables purchased on sale at Wall-Mart.

PA equipment is more reliable today than it ever has been. I agree, Ed has turned into a bigger baby the older he has gotten. Wolfie is the adult. LOL!

[Terry]

Well, you want to give someone (Ed) the benefit of the doubt, you know?

Think my reaction to Ed and his way of doing things is kinda morphing towards what George Carlin said about sports teams, in that instead of getting all bummed out and depressed when your favorite team drops the ball and loses the big game, best off just to cut 'em loose and get on with your life. Root for them when they get their shit together and start winning games again.

And to those who said that attitude made Carlin a fair-weather fan, he said fuckin'-A well told! The whole point of rooting for sporting events is to have some fun, as opposed to walking around all pissed off because the team you wanted to win the Super Bowl didn't.

Suppose one could say that basically getting treated with indifference by the band, long lapses of inactivity and a semi-chronic inability to get their shit together has becaome of a feature of the band for the last dozen years and fans just have to deal with or accept that.

Fuck that. I want the band at their best. ALL of them. Otherwise, what's the point? I don't know Eddie Van Halen. I'm not a doctor or a psychiatrist or alchohol abuse counselor; I don't have any vested interest in Ed's personal life.

If the guy starts playing well again and Roth's in the band, I'll possibly be game for seeing them live again, but after what I saw in 2008, my getting a ticket is no longer a certainty. I'd rather take that money, drive myself down to the local massage parlor and spring for a handjob; 99 times out of 100, I always get a happy ending and 100% satisfaction out of doing that (more satisfaction than what I got out of seeing the band in 2008, at any rate).

[hideyoursheep]

Originally posted by Terry
I want the band at their best. ALL of them. Otherwise, what's the point?

:baaa:


Right on!


It's hard to stay excited about a cookie-cut set list that
seemed to get sloppier as the tour went on into it's second leg.


Then, they cancel less than 48 hours till showtime.

I used to think Wolf was the reason for such a narrow songlist.

Now I don't.

I'm gonna need a lot more from VH before I bet on them again.

Dave, on the other hand, has definitely proved himself road worthy.

And showed how insignificant Van Hagar really is.


When was the last time Hagar Supply doubled the length of a tour
due to popular demand?

[hideyoursheep]

Originally posted by WhoCares?
What is this shit, a soap opera named "All My Van Halens"?

Let's cut the bullshit. I don't care what Val says. I don't care what so & so says. I don't care what secretive BS & approved info the VH camp puts out

The fact of the matter is VH announced to the world they were on tour. People spent tons of their hard earned money to see them. And now they're fucking them

Eddie is a mental midget, a drunk, a drug addict. They had no right to announce a tour when they knew they probably couldn't fufill their obligations

I don't blame Roth, I blame the VH's & their fucked up management

All this "poor Eddie" & "I hope he gets well" BS is just that, bullshit

Face it folks, Eddie ain't going to get better. He's a complete & total idiot & fuck up

I don't give a shit about this ongoing soap opera consisting of multi-millionaire prima donna's & their ongoing excuses about why Eddie can't perform

These cocksuckers have no idea what it means to get out of bed every morning & go to work. They have no idea what work really is

Poor Eddie Van Halen, his monitor isn't loud enough or his guitar wasn't tuned properley, so let's fly into an alcohol fueled rage. Let's go beserk & act like the spoiled fuck you are

You people can play this game & speculate all you want about what's happening

I know what's happening. Eddie doesn't have the mental capacity to run a band. He never has. He needed Roth to run things in the old days & he needed Spammy to do the same

Then, like the mental freak he is, he gets mad, gets fucked up & the whole thing explodes

All I know is I have tickets to a show that will propably never happen

Eddie, Alex & their management knew Eddie's a walking time bomb. Professionals don't do this. After the fans spent millions on tickets, travel & hotels, Eddie decides he wants to go home

Eddie's in rhab. He's getting medical help. He's burned out. BS, I'm not buying any of it

He's a drug & alcohol addicted freak with the brain capacity of a child

If Van Halen had any integrity, this is how their press release would read..

"Eddie Van Halen is a fucktard. He's an idiot that we can't depend on. We're sorry we led the fans on"

My new tattoo.





Put THIS on the homepage.;)

[hideyoursheep]

Originally posted by Brettt
I should also shed some light on how much the Rothtard Army sucks balls.

:lol:

Shed some of that links wool while you're at it.


Some of us will put up a bit of a struggle before we let Ed fuck us.

Not so for you, obviously.

He's fucked you with Spammy's dick since '86, you laid down
and enjoyed it.



Sheepturd.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Nitro Express
I still think Val's book was the catalyst that set Ed off. Just look at the timing. .

Yep.

Like I've said... No different than the RNRHOF debacle.

:gulp:


This whole tour, from the very begining, has ALWAYS hinged on the stability of spED, and when and where he would unspool.

Not if, but when.

:(

[Diamondjimi]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Yep.

Like I've said... No different than the RNRHOF debacle.

:gulp:


This whole tour, from the very begining, has ALWAYS hinged on the stability of spED, and when and where he would unspool.

Not if, but when.

:(

Yup!

Pretty sad when Mr."It's MY band" is the weakest link.:rolleyes:

[Pasadena Bunnie]

CRY BABIES? US? MWUA? LOL!

YES, we're holding stock in Kleenex over here.........................LOL!!!!! that's why the VHlinks is holding vigils & daily prayer services over Bassplayer's Sauce all over Cabo'd Skewers of SPAM - Cabo-licious!...................a recipe for disaster, but hey, it's fun over at the VHLinks for laughs.....I think of it as "Clown Alley".

[113]

Ed needs to cut the fags out. A neighbour of mine passed away last week, he was a chain smoker, he developed bone cancer, last week he fell over getting out the bath, it caused his femour to break. The result was a blood clot that killed him. He was only 52 years old!

[Howlin' Wolf]

The doctah tol' King Edward, you may get bettah, but you sho' won't get well!!

King Edward's got one foot in the grave today
One foot on a banana peel
If you could walk a mile in dem sensible shoes
You's know jus' how he feel
nah nah yezz yezz,,,

Give me champagne when I'm thirsty,,,

[hideyoursheep]

Originally posted by 113
Ed needs to cut the fags out.


Well, he did!


http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z310/bgsamevents/SAM/sammyhagar.jpg



Now if he could just stop smok- uh, putting metal picks in his mouth.


:p

[Northern Girl]

Originally posted by Nitro Express
I still think Val's book was the catalyst that set Ed off. Just look at the timing. They guy is doing great until the book releases. Cancer just doesn't jump out and bite your ass overnight. Most people don't even know they have cancer until it's in the advanced stages. So I'm not buying the cancer thing and cancer isn't going to make the dude act like a fuckup on stage.

Either the dude had an nervous fucking breakdown in Florida or he fell off the wagon again. Ed Van Halen needs to spend some time on Dr. Drew's celebrity rehab. LOL!

Val divorced Eddie. He wanted to remain married to her but he was such a fuckup she couldn't take it anymore. Val said Ed's last rehab counciler was a total quack that just told Ed what he wanted to hear while smoking cigarettes.

I think Ed still has emotional ties to Vallerie and the divorce, the book, plus having Wolfie between them all adds up to some emotional turbulence. Ed probably pounded some porn skanks but Val was his mother figure and she's gone and hey, it's hard to see your former wife shape up and bang another dude. Ed probably stil misses pounding Val's ass.

I doubt it. The book is not scathing whatsoever. Rather boring. Nothing we didn't already know. I doubt he's even read it. They haven't been together for years, and haven't been in love for waaaay longer than that.

If he didn't fall off the wagon, I bet he knew he was heading that way. Being "proactive" could mean a lot of things, even just needing a break.

[yah]

Sounds like it's legit that Ed is having health problems though booze is obviously involved again as well.
It's probably a combo of the both-the boys need a rest after all that touring at an advanced age anyways.
They had a good run so far...here's hoping they saddle up again soon