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  • WACF
    Crazy Ass Mofo
    • Jan 2004
    • 2920

    Paul Stanley to leave Kiss

    Have not seen this anywhere else...may be BS.




    Paul Stanley to leave Kiss


    PAUL Stanley may be made for loving you. Just not forever. As the 56-year-old singer/guitarist prepares to once again bring his band's glam-rock party to these shores, Stanley has some news which will leave Kiss Army troopers shell-shocked.

    The pouty-lipped, make-up clad Starchild confesses his touring days with Kiss may soon be numbered.

    "I really, firmly believe there will come a time when the band will continue without me," Stanley says. Shock. And yes, horror.

    While this might have some fans shedding silvery-red tears over their vinyl editions of Kiss's iconic Dynasty album, Stanley insists that his departure would not necessarily spell the end for the band. He believes he is entirely replaceable.

    "Some people can't imagine it without me, but I'm here to tell you, I can. There is somebody out there with the same amount of passion and the same amount of drive," he says. "Which is not to say I wouldn't want to have creative control."

    Certainly, Kiss has changed its line-up over the years. Original members Peter Criss and Ace Frehley have been replaced, variously, by Eric Carr, Vinnie Vincent, Mark St. John and Bruce Kulick.

    Currently, the band consists of Stanley, Gene Simmons, Tommy Thayer and Eric Singer.

    But Stanley and Simmons, who formed the band in 1973, in New York, have always been the constants. Admittedly, Stanley's health has deteriorated over the years. He has had hip surgery and prior to a show in July last year was hospitalised with a rapid heartbeat. It was the first time Kiss had ever performed as a three-piece.

    In Stanley's eyes, at least, Kiss is bigger than any one member of the band. Bigger than just a band, Kiss is a philosophy.

    "I think Kiss is more about a point of view, about a respect for fans and about a loyalty and a direction much more than it is the people in the band," he explains.

    "We don't follow the same rules as other bands. I can't live within the boundaries people set for me. I believe Kiss is founded on something so solid that it will continue to live on, the way a football team continues.

    "There have been great players, but there will always be other players."

    But for the moment, Stanley is staying put. This definitely isn't any sort of farewell tour, if such a thing really exists.

    He is excited to be coming back to Australia only a year after he was here as part of a solo tour for his album, Live To Win.

    "At this point in my life I wouldn't do anything that wouldn't excite me," he says.

    Stanley first toured with the band here in 1980. And he has had a love affair with the country ever since, an affection extending to Kiss performing with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra in Melbourne in 2004.

    "There have always been amazing women and friendships and amazing food and some of the best wines in the world," he says.

    "Over the years people's expectations have just got higher. So when I go out there I want to make sure we are every bit living up to the legend of Kiss.

    "I think our fans understand how important it is for us to live up to what we have done in the past and making sure that nobody is disappointed. But they know we wouldn't be there unless we were going to deliver the goods."

    The goods, in this case, happen to be a catalogue of hits including Rock And Roll All Nite, I Was Made For Loving You and Detroit Rock City, which have helped the band sell 90 million records worldwide.

    There's no new stuff to speak of, apart from the Kissology DVD. But hey, as with most bands which trade heavily on nostalgia, who needs new material when you have the hits? Of course, the two calling the shots on stage are Stanley and Simmons. The pair have had their differences over the years and, at least from what is presented to the public, seem diametrically opposed personality types.

    Stanley prefers the private life away from Kiss and has taken to painting.

    Simmons has a burgeoning career outside the band as a reality TV star, having been the mentor on Rock School and the star of his own show, Family Jewels.

    "I think we think of ourselves as brothers. Brothers means you can never get rid of each other, even when you want to," Stanley says. "We go about ourselves very differently. What we choose to put at the forefront or publicise is very different.

    "Certainly, one of us spends quite a bit of time telling the world that he's the genius behind the band. This didn't happen because of a single person. It is the combustibility and the chemistry of people who don't necessarily view things from the same perspective which makes Kiss."

    Stanley says the common ground is definitely the group itself.

    "We tend to put our egos aside when it comes to making decisions for the band.".

    * Kiss perform at Acer Arena on March 20
  • WACF
    Crazy Ass Mofo
    • Jan 2004
    • 2920

    #2
    Hard to imagine Kiss going on with just Gene, Peter wanna be and Ace I wish I was...

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    • kwame k
      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
      • Feb 2008
      • 11302

      #3
      So in essence Kiss would become a Tribute Band if Gene and Paul eventually leave but the difference would be they get to keep the name Kiss.

      It would be a unique situation and I can’t think of another band that has gone on without any original members as an established band. I’m sure there are some.

      When Gene and Paul were able to take Peter and Ace’s stage makeup/personas and use them I wondered if people would accept it. They did and it’s not a big deal anymore. Gene is the PT Barnum of rock n roll so I could see Kiss going on without Gene and Paul. Kiss is a brand name as Gene has said many times.

      Wow, what a trip that would be.
      Originally posted by vandeleur
      E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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      • Little Lamont
        Head Fluffer
        • Mar 2007
        • 371

        #4
        They wanna be like the Globetrotters.

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        • Diamondjimi
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • May 2004
          • 12086

          #5
          The greedy old hags should've packed it in YEEEEARS AGO !

          KI$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

          R.I.P.
          1973-1979
          Trolls take heed...LOG OUT & FUCK OFF!!!

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          • cadaverdog
            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
            • Aug 2007
            • 8955

            #6
            Originally posted by diamondjimi
            The greedy old hags should've packed it in YEEEEARS AGO !

            KI$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

            R.I.P.
            1973-1979
            Never had a lot of respect for them after I found out the classic
            Kiss Alive was a studio album with an audience added.
            Gene Simmons admitted it.
            They tried to record a live album but their sloppy live performances
            couldn't be fixed even with studio magic.
            How many times has Kiss retired already , A thousand?
            They were considered "uncool" and a "teeny boppers"
            band after that stupid "Phantom of the Park"movie .
            Can't believe they were considered "metal"in the 80s.
            They did have a couple memorable tunes , though.
            I still crank "Rock and Roll all nite" when I hear it.
            Beware of Dog

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            • Panamark
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Jan 2004
              • 17113

              #7
              Anything less than 3 of the 4 originals is not Kiss.
              BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
              Love ya Mary Frances!

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              • Fairwrning
                TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                • Jan 2004
                • 11371

                #8
                Are ticket sales down??..this comes off as bullshit to sell some seats for the upcoming shows to me..

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                • Terry
                  TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 11953

                  #9
                  I could totally see Gene and Paul thinking it would be a good idea to opt out of actually playing live with the band, getting two other people up there in the makeup while they sit back and retain control of the band and the lion's share of the loot.

                  The only incarnation of the band I have any use for is the definitive lineup with Stanley, Criss, Frehley and Simmons. There were some decent tunes done by other KISS lineups, but for me the band really peaked in 1978. The reunion tour that started in 1996 was a good idea and was carried off well (save for the Psycho Circus album), but they should have just left well enough alone after Criss packed it in.

                  Suppose people will still pay money to see the group regardless of Stanley being there or not, but I honestly wouldn't be bothered even if Criss and Frehley rejoined Stanley and Simmons at this point: it's all been done before...and redone...the group has nothing left to say or do that's new, and no real function other than to slap a KISS logo on whatever and make more money. 'KISS' these days exists for little more than to replentish Stanley and Simmons' coffers, and that's fine if people want to keep giving them dough, but I'm pretty much all done with it (unless they come out with some really cool old extras on KISSOLOGY 4, that is).
                  Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                  • MERRYKISSMASS2U
                    Full Member Status

                    • Mar 2004
                    • 4372

                    #10
                    That would be too watered down even for the hard core guys.

                    No Gene, NO KISS. NO ONE wants to see some tribute band. A lot of people don't even want to see the real thing anymore.

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                    • MERRYKISSMASS2U
                      Full Member Status

                      • Mar 2004
                      • 4372

                      #11
                      Maybe they can get away with replacing a drummer and guitarist, but Gene and Paul are KISS.

                      Paul is the voice.

                      Irreplaceable to them.

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                      • WACF
                        Crazy Ass Mofo
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 2920

                        #12
                        My thoughts exactly...

                        As much as I like the Ace Kiss they have put out some real decent stuff without him.

                        Lose Gene or Paul and you have lost too much.

                        As earlier posted...I could see this as a way of stirring up some ticket sales....make people think this is the last chance.

                        I could also see this as a way of feeling out the public...while a new Kiss album would not be something big...a good double or triple bill tour with 2 headliners could work very well.

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                        • bueno bob
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 22820

                          #13
                          This is old news...Paul and Gene started talking about Kiss going on without them three or four years back. Of course, it's going to happen...Tommy Thayer and Eric Singer will go on with two new guys and that'll be that...

                          Watch it happen.
                          Twistin' by the pool.

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                          • WACF
                            Crazy Ass Mofo
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 2920

                            #14
                            Kiss as a brand rather than a band....

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                            • LoungeMachine
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 32555

                              #15
                              Re: Paul Stanley to leave Kiss

                              Originally posted by WACF


                              As the 56-year-old
                              'bout fucking time.





                              Nothing worse than the clown who doesnt realize it's time to leave the party.....
                              Originally posted by Kristy
                              Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                              Originally posted by cadaverdog
                              I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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