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Sarge
02-12-2009, 07:14 PM
A 42-year-old HIV patient with leukemia appears to have no detectable HIV in his blood and no symptoms after a stem cell transplant from a donor carrying a gene mutation that confers natural resistance to the virus that causes AIDS, according to a report published Wednesday in the New England Journal of Medicine.


The patient underwent a stem cell transplant and since, has not tested positive for HIV in his blood.

"The patient is fine," said Dr. Gero Hutter of Charite Universitatsmedizin Berlin in Germany. "Today, two years after his transplantation, he is still without any signs of HIV disease and without antiretroviral medication."

The case was first reported in November, and the new report is the first official publication of the case in a medical journal. Hutter and a team of medical professionals performed the stem cell transplant on the patient, an American living in Germany, to treat the man's leukemia, not the HIV itself.

However, the team deliberately chose a compatible donor who has a naturally occurring gene mutation that confers resistance to HIV. The mutation cripples a receptor known as CCR5, which is normally found on the surface of T cells, the type of immune system cells attacked by HIV.

The mutation is known as CCR5 delta32 and is found in 1 percent to 3 percent of white populations of European descent.

HIV uses the CCR5 as a co-receptor (in addition to CD4 receptors) to latch on to and ultimately destroy immune system cells. Since the virus can't gain a foothold on cells that lack CCR5, people who have the mutation have natural protection. (There are other, less common HIV strains that use different co-receptors.)

People who inherit one copy of CCR5 delta32 take longer to get sick or develop AIDS if infected with HIV. People with two copies (one from each parent) may not become infected at all. The stem cell donor had two copies.

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While promising, the treatment is unlikely to help the vast majority of people infected with HIV, said Dr. Jay Levy, a professor at the University of California San Francisco, who wrote an editorial accompanying the study. A stem cell transplant is too extreme and too dangerous to be used as a routine treatment, he said.

"About a third of the people die [during such transplants], so it's just too much of a risk," Levy said. To perform a stem cell transplant, doctors intentionally destroy a patient's immune system, leaving the patient vulnerable to infection, and then reintroduce a donor's stem cells (which are from either bone marrow or blood) in an effort to establish a new, healthy immune system.

Levy also said it's unlikely that the transplant truly cured the patient in this study. HIV can infect many other types of cells and may be hiding out in the patient's body to resurface at a later time, he said.

"This type of virus can infect macrophages (another type of white blood cell that expresses CCR5) and other cells, like the brain cells, and it could live a lifetime. But if it can't spread, you never see it-- but it's there and it could do some damage," he said. "It's not the kind of approach that you could say, 'I've cured you.' I've eliminated the virus from your body." Health.com: 10 questions to ask a new partner before having sex

Before undergoing the transplant, the patient was also found to be infected with low levels of a type of HIV known as X4, which does not use the CCR5 receptor to infect cells. So it would seem that this virus would still be able to grow and damage immune cells in his body. However, following the transplant, signs of leukemia and HIV were absent.

"There is no really conclusive explanation why we didn't observe any rebound of HIV," Hutter said. "This finding is very surprising."

Hutter noted that one year ago, the patient had a relapse of leukemia and a second transplant from the same donor. The patient experienced complications from the procedure, including temporary liver problems and kidney failure, but they were not unusual and may occur in HIV-negative patients, he said.

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Researchers including Hutter agree that the technique should not be used to treat HIV alone. "Some people may say, 'I want to do it,'" said Levy. A more logical -- and potentially safer -- approach would be to develop some type of CCR5-disabling gene therapy or treatment that could be directly injected into the body, said Levy.

Less invasive options to alter CCR5 could be on the horizon within the next five years, said Levy. "It's definitely the wave of the future," he said. "As we continue to follow this one patient, we will learn a lot."

One drug that's currently on the market that blocks CCR5 is called maraviroc (Selzentry). It was first approved in 2007 and is used in combination with other antiretroviral drugs. Health.com: Who's most at risk for STDs?

In 2007, an estimated 2 million people died from AIDS, and 2.7 million people contracted HIV. More than 15 million women are infected worldwide. HIV/AIDS can be transmitted through sexual intercourse, sharing needles, pregnancy, breast-feeding, and/or blood transfusions with an infected person. Health.com:What should I do if the condom breaks?

"For HIV patients, this report is an important flicker of hope that antiretroviral therapy like HAART [highly active antiretroviral therapy] is not the endpoint of medical research," Hutter said.
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/02/11/health.hiv.stemcell/index.html?eref=rss_mostpopular

Sarge
02-12-2009, 07:15 PM
Dicuss!

FORD
02-12-2009, 07:32 PM
You thought the right wing was opposed to stem cell research before, just wait until they hear about this.

If this resistance to the HIV virus is coming from one man's DNA, though, then there's obviously a supply shortage problem. Still good news though.

Va Beach VH Fan
02-12-2009, 08:59 PM
You thought the right wing was opposed to stem cell research before, just wait until they hear about this.

If this resistance to the HIV virus is coming from one man's DNA, though, then there's obviously a supply shortage problem. Still good news though.

Nancy Reagan turned pretty quickly though, didn't she...

hideyoursheep
02-13-2009, 05:05 AM
Amazing.

Imagine how far we could have been..

BITEYOASS
02-13-2009, 11:54 AM
IT'S OVER!!!!!!! AIDS IS OVER!!!!! :D lol

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FUCKIN IN THE STREETS NOW BABY!!!!!!!!

:cowgirl::doggystyle::anal::sex::spank:

ELVIS
02-13-2009, 04:27 PM
When I got out of nursing school in 1989 there was a process I had read about. I don't remember the specifics, but it was sort of like a dialysis procedure, but the end result was no detectable HIV in something like 80&#37; of the patients in the study. it could also be repeated - possibly indefinitely, the way I interpreted it. It was even on TV at one point, but it suddenly vanished and I never heard or read about it again...

But it was safe, required no medication the way I remember it, and was projected to be inexpensive after the initial cost of the equipment involved, and I think that is what killed it. No long term profits for drug and pharmaceutical manufacturers...

I've also read about success stories regarding cancer and other diseases over the years that disappeared as fast as they appeared...



:elvis:

FORD
02-13-2009, 04:37 PM
When I got out of nursing school in 1989 there was a process I had read about. I don't remember the specifics, but it was sort of like a dialysis procedure, but the end result was no detectable HIV in something like 80% of the patients in the study. it could also be repeated - possibly indefinitely, the way I interpreted it. It was even on TV at one point, but it suddenly vanished and I never heard or read about it again...

It was safe, required no medication the way I remember it, and was projected to be inexpensive after the initial cost of the equipment involved, and I thnk that is what killed it. No long term profits for drug and pharmaceutical manufacturers...

I've also read about success stories regarding cancer and other diseases over the years that disappeared as fast as they appeared...



:elvis:

Not all that surprising..... the pharmaceutical industry would lose a lot of money if they couldn't sell long term prescriptions to HIV & cancer drugs anymore.

Just another reason why we need to take both those corrupt whores and the corrupt insurance whores out of the equation and go to a single payer health care system already.

Hopefully, President Obama will take a big step in this direction and appoint a doctor as the new HHS secretary. And when I think of doctors who know their way around the political game, one name comes to mind........

http://www.ravenna.com/~forbes/images/dean-dnc.jpg

ELVIS
02-13-2009, 05:36 PM
You forgetting Ron Paul on purpose ??

I also personally know two HIV patients who have been doing well on medication for nearly 20 years and recently the medication has been changed or replaced to something new that I have been meaning to look up...

HIV medication is usually a cocktail of several medications along with proper nutrition...

One of the patients is a 43 year olf female who was doing fine...I'm talking about completely asymptomatic. Now with the new medication she is losing weight because she cannot eat due to nausea and lack of appetite...

The other is a 47-48 year old black dude (really nice guy whom I share a birthday with) who was not doing all that well, but was eating, maintaining his weight and showing slow but steady improvement until his medication was abruptly changed. He has the same problems as the woman I described with nausea, vomiting, lack of appetite and is losing weight...

These new medications (as well as the old ones) have severe side effects including liver and kidney damage as well as bone and bone marrow degredation, and the list goes on and on...

It's also difficult and time consuming, as well as expensive to figure out what works on an individual, and changing it because the pharmaceutical industry says so is a real disservice to that or any person...I mean, what works on one individual can be literally fatal to another...

And BTW, one of them smokes pot pretty regularly and always says it helps with the nausea as well as the enjoyable side effects...but that's illegal and likely to remain that way...

But the pharmaceutical industry and lobbyists seem to be in control of every aspect of these and many peoples lives in terms of their health and well-being. And it's a real let down to health care workers like myself and some of my Doctor friends and nurse practitioners who really care about these people and genuinally want to make a difference, but all of our hands are tied...


So...and the way I see it, along with other health care professionals I know, it's only going to get worse...


:elvis:

FORD
02-13-2009, 05:44 PM
Actually, I did forget that Ron Paul was a doctor. But I suspect he wouldn't share my views on health care reform, since he seems to think the (non existent) "free market" has the answer to everything.... which especially in the case of health care is the whole problem.

Some things simply should not be "for profit" industries, and health care goes in that category as much as the police department, fire department, highways, etc.

ELVIS
02-13-2009, 05:49 PM
I agree...

ELVIS
02-13-2009, 05:57 PM
AND!

This topic os one of the main reasons I voted for Ron Paul for president...

But nearly all of my nurse friends and co-workers didn't know Ron Paul was an Obgyn MD, so...

If people don't even know basic information obout their candidates or representatives, we're not likely to move foward when your average voter doesn't even know what direction that is...


:elvis:

FORD
02-13-2009, 06:00 PM
Did he "practice his love with his patients" like Chimpy asked him to? :D

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ELVIS
02-13-2009, 06:17 PM
Teeheeheehee...

Dat's a good one...:D