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  • Sgt Schultz
    Commando
    • Mar 2004
    • 1268

    Whatever I Want Is A Right in the Constitution

    From the website "Flopping Aces"

    What a great look inside the idiotic mind of a typical ACORN thug. Here is Stuart Varney of FOX Business interviewing Bertha Lewis, Executive Director of the New York branch of ACORN, about the recent invasion of private property by the criminal enterprise…ACORN:

    Transcript below…have to read it to believe it:

    Stuart Varney: Do you think you got a right to these houses?

    Bertha Lewis: I think the homeowners have a right to stay in those homes until the administrations plan can be implemented…yes I do.

    Stuart Varney: They got a right to the house even though they haven’t paid their bills?

    Bertha Lewis: They have been paying their bills…I think it’s a false thing to say that people haven’t been paying their bills.

    Stuart Varney: No, their delinquent on their mortgages.

    Bertha Lewis: Well, they maybe delinquent on their mortgages but there are people still do that.

    Stuart Varney: They haven’t been paying their bills

    Bertha Lewis: There are millions of millions of people who are…

    Stuart Varney: Doesn’t matter, they haven’t been paying their bills.

    Bertha Lewis: Being foreclosed on every day and so we have a plan in place and people need to stay there..

    Stuart Varney: What right do you claim to stay in a house that you can’t afford and you cannot pay the bills and what right do you have to get my money to pay for you? I’ve read the constitution, I don’t see that right…

    Bertha Lewis: Well, I don’t see the right that banks have to get 700 billion dollars to get bailed out

    Stuart Varney: No, no, that’s a different thing…

    Bertha Lewis: That’s all part of the same thing…

    Stuart Varney: No it’s not…

    Bertha Lewis: Every 13 seconds, Stuart, people are getting foreclosed on and they have the right to protect their homes and to protect their communities. It’s the most American thing you can do to protect your community.

    Stuart Varney: ACORN is well known for looking at banks and saying “give us a loan,”….they don’t give you a loan so you scream racism you then invade their offices and demonstrate outside the private homes of bank executives, you embarrass the banks and you force them to give you loans on favorable terms, now…those loans cannot be repaid, you will not leave those homes and your claiming a right to stay in them and have a right to my money to make sure you stay in them, again…I come back to it Bertha, they may be be foreclosing every 13 seconds but you have absolutely no right to that house.
    Bertha Lewis: Well banks don’t have a right to discriminate.

    Stuart Varney: Again, your taking a parallel track you see….Where is the right?

    Bertha Lewis: I wish we could force banks to our will but….

    Stuart Varney: Where is the right? Where is the right to my money? You are demanding money from me.

    Bertha Lewis: We’re not demanding money from you.

    Stuart Varney: Yes you are.

    Bertha Lewis: We’re demanding that the banks renegotiate these loans

    Stuart Varney: It is taxpayer money in this plan, which you propose to bail out your people to stay in the homes they cannot afford. You are demanding my money and your saying you have a right to my money. It is no excuse to go on a parallel track and say “well the banks have no right to 700 billion dollars,” that’s not the point madam. You are demanding my money directly to your people. And that’s wrong.

    Bertha Lewis: First of all these are not my people, these are millions and millions of hardworking homeowners who are paying their bills, paying….

    Stuart Varney: They are not paying their bills….I can’t believe your getting away with this….they are not paying their bills.

    Bertha Lewis: Well I know people who are.

    Stuart Varney: They are delinquent on their mortgages that’s why they are being foreclosed on.

    Bertha Lewis: They’re paying their bills, they’re paying their taxes.

    Stuart Varney: They are not paying their mortgage bills and you know it.

    Bertha Lewis: Yes they are.

    Stuart Varney: No, if they were paying their mortgage bills they would not be foreclosed on, they would not be leaving the home….right?

    Bertha Lewis: First of all, you are wrong because millions of millions of people are (ineligible), they are late on their mortgages

    Stuart Varney: They are delinquent on their mortgages

    Bertha Lewis: And that means late.

    Stuart Varney: They have not paid their mortgage bills and you know it

    Bertha Lewis: They have been foreclosed on and people need to be able to stay into their homes and so that they can take advantage of the President’s new plan.

    Stuart Varney: So you invade these homes with a lot of guys. Your not going to leave, your gonna protect these people, we’re gonna stay in the home….Your a nice lady, your a gentle and a nice lady

    Bertha Lewis: No I’m not…

    Stuart Varney: But I put it to you….this is political thuggery.

    Bertha Lewis: Well, I’m a very determined lady, I don’t think it’s political thuggery and I think it’s thuggery when you put out hard working members of home owners from their homes…..here’s the thing….

    Stuart Varney: And it’s not when you invade a bank managers office so you shout racism? That’s not political thuggery?

    Bertha Lewis: Well, it is true….

    Stuart Varney: It is….that’s exactly what it is…

    Bertha Lewis: Well you don’t want to tell a lie and a lie doesn’t make it the truth…

    Stuart Varney: You are operating on taxpayer money. You’ve received…ACORN has received since 1998 thirty one million dollars of taxpayer money, three million dollars a year, you are doing this with my money.
    Bertha Lewis: You want to know what we’ve done? We’ve counseled 2,300 people to stay in their homes, renegotiation their mortgages, and…here’s the thing. Every single penny we competed for and we can tell you this, if the industry had listened to us ten years ago when we said this was coming we wouldn’t be in this crisis. So now here’s what we’re gonna do.

    Stuart Varney: Listened to you? You’ve invaded their offices

    Bertha Lewis: No we didn’t

    Stuart Varney: …you are political thugs, you embarrass banks to give them loans which they could not afford to repay and now they cannot afford to repay them and your claiming the right to my money to stay in those homes and you will have big burly guys who say “we’re not going to leave here no matter what!”

    Bertha Lewis: No, we have homeowners who are protecting their homes.

    Stuart Varney: Your a nice lady….come on!

    Bertha Lewis: I’m a nice lady and I’m very determined lady to tell the truth and the truth is this…

    Stuart Varney: You are not telling the truth…

    Bertha Lewis: Here’s the thing…

    Stuart Varney: Your telling me these homeowners have paid their bills and they have not…

    Bertha Lewis: We cannot force anybody to do anything….here’s the thing, you know who are the thugs? The thugs are the banks, the thugs are the mortgage brokers who bilk people so they are delinquent and they deserve to be helped just like big banks and institutions are we intend to stay.
    Stuart Varney: And they have not paid their mortgage bills and they have no right to those houses…that is my last word. Bertha Lewis….

    Bertha Lewis: Housing is a right.

    Stuart Varney: It is not a right.

    Bertha Lewis: Yes it is

    Stuart Varney: I’ve read the Bill of Rights, I’ve read the Constitution, no where does it say that housing is a right.

    Bertha Lewis: Yes it is.

    Stuart Varney: Can you show me? Which page? Which line?

    Bertha Lewis: Well we have the right to the pursuit of happiness.

    Stuart Varney: You have a right to a house? Where does it say that?

    Bertha Lewis: If your a hard working American and you pay your taxes and you do the right thing you do have a right to protect your home.

    Stuart Varney: I tell you what Bertha, we have a Constitutional lawyer in a few minutes, I’ll ask him if there is a line in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights that spells out a right to a house which you claim.

    Bertha Lewis: That’s good….good.

    Stuart Varney: But Bertha, we’ve run way over our allotted time..

    Bertha Lewis: Have we, well you have to have me back and we will show you how many homes we have defended.

    Stuart Varney: Defended? Invaded and stolen but that’s another story entirely. Thank’s Bertha.
    ---- end transcript ---
  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49136

    #2


    Insightful.

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    • hideyoursheep
      ROTH ARMY ELITE
      • Jan 2007
      • 6351

      #3
      Originally posted by Nickdfresh

      Nickdfresh: Insightful.
      hideyoursheep: No it isn't.


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      • GAR
        Banned
        • Jan 2004
        • 10849

        #4
        Did the Spendulus Package still have 20 million dollars for ACORN in it or was that thrown out?

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        • LoungeMachine
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Jul 2004
          • 32555

          #5
          Originally posted by GAR
          Did the Spendulus Package still have 20 million dollars for ACORN in it or was that thrown out?
          You're in the library. Look it up yourself.

          Lazy mullet.

          Originally posted by Kristy
          Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
          Originally posted by cadaverdog
          I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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          • swage33
            Head Fluffer
            • Jan 2009
            • 311

            #6
            An amazing insight into a well intended, but misguided mind.
            High quality hate while you wait

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            • bueno bob
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Jul 2004
              • 22830

              #7
              It's in everybody's best interests to keep people in their homes, as much as possibly can be managed. If Schultzie-poo's neighbors all get evicted and move across town to low rent apartments, and Schultzie-poo's the only person on his otherwise vacant block, what do you think that's going to do to the property values of that whole block, Schultzie-poo included? And, when the property owners get desperate to fill the block and start dropping prices to ridiculously low levels, exactly what kind of neighbor prospects is that going to attract for him? It's a far better solution to avoid evictions of middle class homeowners struggling in a bad economy than to boot them out, drop the prices to sellable and make more neighborhoods easier to access by the less than reputable.

              Of course, this is going under the impression that Schultzie-poo actually lives IN A HOUSE himself. I'm more inclined to believe he's an apartment dweller and probably has no real vested interest in the matter either way.
              Last edited by bueno bob; 02-24-2009, 01:53 AM.
              Twistin' by the pool.

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              • Sgt Schultz
                Commando
                • Mar 2004
                • 1268

                #8
                Originally posted by bueno bob
                It's in everybody's best interests to keep people in their homes, as much as possibly can be managed. If Schultzie-poo's neighbors all get evicted and move across town to low rent apartments, and Schultzie-poo's the only person on his otherwise vacant block, what do you think that's going to do to the property values of that whole block, Schultzie-poo included? And, when the property owners get desperate to fill the block and start dropping prices to ridiculously low levels, exactly what kind of neighbor prospects is that going to attract for him? It's a far better solution to avoid evictions of middle class homeowners struggling in a bad economy than to boot them out, drop the prices to sellable and make more neighborhoods easier to access by the less than reputable.

                Of course, this is going under the impression that Schultzie-poo actually lives IN A HOUSE himself. I'm more inclined to believe he's an apartment dweller and probably has no real vested interest in the matter either way.
                The mortgage problem is primarily a problem in about 5 states, the worst of which is California. You are wrong and misguided in most of what you say.

                The reason is that I, along with most responsible people, in states that don’t have a mortgage crisis bought a modest home was in order to ...wait for it...LIVE in it. The rampant speculation buying and "flipping" that was going on in primarily 5 states was doomed to eventually collapse.

                If some people in my neighborhood fucked up and stupidly bought a home for speculative reasons, or with a mortgage with an adjustable rate that's their problem. If I own a home whose value decreases it is only a problem if I plan to sell it - and then only if I've only lived in the house a few years.

                For current middle class homeowners who are having trouble with their primary residence - it is up to them and their banks to figure out a plan - it is not up to the Govt. to come in and dictate how things will be done while throwing my money to help out someone who overbought and was not smart about the purchase of their home.

                And if they do get booted and the house goes up for auction, current renters are in an excellent position to buy their first home.

                This is why so many people have a big problem with this idiotic Obamarxist plan Bobby-poo.

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                • bueno bob
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 22830

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Sgt Schultz
                  The mortgage problem is primarily a problem in about 5 states, the worst of which is California. You are wrong and misguided in most of what you say.
                  LMAO

                  Sure thing, buddy.

                  Originally posted by Sgt Schultz
                  The reason is that I, along with most responsible people,
                  LMAO @ "responsible people"

                  Who makes the fucking definition of "responsible", jackass? You?

                  Sorry. Based on your "responsible" definition and how wrong and misguided I am, I can't even bother to read the rest of your crap. Probably about as insightful as the rest of the horseshit you post.
                  Twistin' by the pool.

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                  • Redballjets88
                    Full Member Status

                    • Mar 2005
                    • 4454

                    #10
                    The point is if you don't pay for the house it is not your house, it is the bank's house.

                    Just because someone put all of their shit into a house and sleeps there doesn't mean it belongs to them.

                    This is the same as if someone just moved into your garage, didn't pay you for using it and when you told them to leave they refused and got randy savage to guard the door so you couldn't kick anyone out.
                    R.I.P Van Halen 1978-1984

                    hopefully God will ressurect you

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                    " I liked Sammy Hagar " FORD

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                    • LoungeMachine
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 32555

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Redballjets88
                      The point is if you don't pay for the house it is not your house, it is the bank's house.

                      Just because someone put all of their shit into a house and sleeps there doesn't mean it belongs to them.

                      This is the same as if someone just moved into your garage, didn't pay you for using it and when you told them to leave they refused and got randy savage to guard the door so you couldn't kick anyone out.
                      I enjoy having the kid who still lives at home, schooling us on what a mortgage is, what it means to own a home.

                      Originally posted by Kristy
                      Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                      Originally posted by cadaverdog
                      I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                      • Redballjets88
                        Full Member Status

                        • Mar 2005
                        • 4454

                        #12
                        Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                        I enjoy having the kid who still lives at home, schooling us on what a mortgage is, what it means to own a home.

                        I bet ya do guy, when is the last time you had any real input in a thread?

                        You're pretty much a troll under the guise of a mod.
                        R.I.P Van Halen 1978-1984

                        hopefully God will ressurect you

                        "i wont be messing with you in future.the fearsome redballjets88 for fear of you owning me some more" Axl S


                        " I liked Sammy Hagar " FORD

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                        • LoungeMachine
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 32555

                          #13
                          I have plenty of input.

                          I also enjoy pointing out idiotic threads/posts, and that bugs you, because you're the prince of idiotic threads/posts.

                          Answer a simple question:

                          Have you ever applied for a home loan?

                          or

                          Have you ever signed a lease agreement?

                          If the answer is no to both as I suspect, then you really have no cred in a thread discussing home ownership is my point.

                          But that's just my opinion.

                          I'm allowed my opinion in here. And when others disagree with my opinion, I dont whine about it like a little bitch like you do.

                          Originally posted by Kristy
                          Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                          Originally posted by cadaverdog
                          I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                          • sadaist
                            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 11625

                            #14
                            If you can't pay your mortgage, you lose your house....plain & simple.

                            These people signed a contract that stated "We (the bank) will pay for this house for you upfront, and you (the purchaser) will pay us X amount every month for 30 years. We will use the property as your collateral. If you fail to pay for an extended period of time, we take the house back." Both parties agreed. If these people didn't understand the terms, they had no business signing the contract. Again, if you can't pay your mortgage, you lose your house....plain & simple. There are plenty of apartments, rooms for rent, condos, trailers, mobile homes, etc...out there that may be in your price range.

                            No one has a right to own a house. It's not like the bank forecloses if you're a month or two late. My particular note holder doesn't begin proceedings until 180 days late (6 months). Then from there it can take another 6-18 months to take possession of the property. If you can't pay your mortgage for 6 months, you can't afford a house. And just because you prefer a house to sharing an apartment doesn't mean I should have to pay for it. I have enough worries making my own ends meet.
                            “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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                            • Redballjets88
                              Full Member Status

                              • Mar 2005
                              • 4454

                              #15
                              Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                              I have plenty of input.

                              I also enjoy pointing out idiotic threads/posts, and that bugs you, because you're the prince of idiotic threads/posts.

                              Answer a simple question:

                              Have you ever applied for a home loan?

                              or

                              Have you ever signed a lease agreement?

                              If the answer is no to both as I suspect, then you really have no cred in a thread discussing home ownership is my point.

                              But that's just my opinion.

                              I'm allowed my opinion in here. And when others disagree with my opinion, I dont whine about it like a little bitch like you do.

                              I haven't because I can't afford a house, but I guess these days that doesn't matter.

                              So in your opinion these people should live in houses they don't pay for?
                              R.I.P Van Halen 1978-1984

                              hopefully God will ressurect you

                              "i wont be messing with you in future.the fearsome redballjets88 for fear of you owning me some more" Axl S


                              " I liked Sammy Hagar " FORD

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