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  • Dr. Love
    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
    • Jan 2004
    • 7833

    I've got a troublesome problem

    So here's the backstory.

    During the whole time I lived with my parents (until about 10 years ago, and then 5 more off and on while I was in college), I and other members of my family (my sister, mother) have had what I'll call "strange occurances" at the houses we've lived.

    In some cases it was a sudden and overwhelming feeling of unease, where you become acutely aware of a presence nearby where there was not on before. Kind of like when you can tell someone enters a room behind you; a feeling of difference in the air pressure in the room.

    In some cases, it was hearing footsteps crunching the carpet in the room as you try to sleep, or pressure on the bed next to you, or the blanket being slowly pulled off of you. Or when you look at your digital alarm clock and realize you can only see half or less of the numbers.

    Sometimes it's the feeling of being followed around. Sometimes followed uncomfortably close. On one occassion, I was chased. Sometimes you hear things -- the clicking of heels on tile, or steps on a staircase. Thumping around on above you as if someone was walking around heavily in the room above you (in 2 story houses).

    Sometimes, you see it. For me, it was like seeing the air above assphalt on a hot day in reverse; A spot in the room would seem like the air was more condensed than the air around it, and it would move... walk... around. For my sister, she would see the person. Sometimes they would come in the room she was in and sit and look at her.

    In both of our cases, it was seeing it not with your eyes, but with your mind's eye. Like you see your daydreams. You get the impression you see it, but you don't REALLY see it. When I was small, I could hear them in the house, saying my name ... over and over and over. It would drive me outside because I couldn't stand it.

    Several years ago, there was one place that was particularly bad. People would be pushed around. It would pull on the blankets when you slept. It would poke people in the back of the neck, or pull their hair. You could hear it walking around, and slam doors.

    The first day we moved into the house, my sister saw it. He introduced himself to her as Robert, and told her one of the rooms was his. We were still picking rooms so she thought it was one of my friends (they were helping me move) and thought he was joking.

    I don't know anyone named Robert.

    Fast forward a few years, I've moved out, my sister's moved out, gotten married and had kids. My parents have moved a bit and haven't really had many problems. I haven't had any. My sister hasn't had any.

    My youngest nephew, since Christmas, has been acting oddly. I've seen it. My sister and parents have seen it. When he's at my parent's house, he sometimes says, "He isn't going to hurt me, is he?" This is something he says when he meets strangers. Normally we tell him, "No, that's a friend." or "We don't know him." or "He's a nice person."

    You know, he's 3 years old. It's something he does. Anyway, he's started asking us that out of the blue. Usually we ask him who, and he'll say:

    Him.

    For a while each of us dismissed it. We'd say "Him who?" and he'd just say "Him". We figure he's playing or being weird. He's 3. Well, in the last month or two, that's changed.

    He started saying it again. A lot. And he won't stay in a room by himself. When he stays at home, he'll play in his room alone. He'll get up in the night and go pee. He's fine. When he stays at my parents house, he won't stay alone. If he falls asleep and you put him in his own bed, away from you, he'll pee in the bed rather than get up. He's scared, all the time. And he constantly wants to know, "Will he hurt me?"

    It's disconcerting. But not as disconcerting as what has been going on in the last 3 weeks.

    He was at my mom's house, and was talking to my Mom, and suddenly cut off and watched something walk by. Later, he was sitting with my Mom, and did it again, but this time he watched it walk over right next to him, and looked up higher and higher, like when you watch someone walk up to you that is tall. He then got very anxious, not wanting to be alone, crying and pressing up against my Mom. He wanted to know "Is he going to hurt me?"

    Finally enough people had seen enough that they started asking questions. They asked who. He said "Him." We showed him some pictures of family members who had died, and he said no and said it's not <insert family member name here>. They kept asking and he kept getting more agitated and pointed and shouted "HIM!"

    This has happened regularly since then. My Mom babysits him fairly often. Sometimes he's fine for a few days, but fairly regularly he wants to know if someone who is not there will hurt him. We've told him the person isn't there. He insists he is. He can describe what he looks like. He tells us that it's not a boy, it's a tall man. My nephew gets very agitated whenever he is around.

    Yesterday it happened again, and again my Mom told him there was no one there. And again he insisted he was and pointed. My Mom looked and asked who he was talking about -- no one is there. And so my nephew told her.

    Robert.

    We've never talked about this with my nephew. He's 3 years old. We don't want to scare him. Honestly, I haven't thought about it in a long time, usually only around halloween when people tell ghost stories. But when they told me, it was like a cold chill down my spine.

    In any event, we had a family meeting to talk about it. We've all noticed the same behavior but haven't talked much about it until recently. Additionally (and I lend very little credence to this), my parents have talked to people about this before, and have been told there's something in their house.

    At the time (late last year), they denied it, saying they've had no problems. Apparently they were told it was there, and that it would make itself known in time, and more than that, it's one that they've had problems with before.

    So I dunno. Draw your own conclusions. To me, I don't want my nephew to go through the experiences I went through -- especially if it is the same Robert. It was terrifying at times. Not something to put a 3 year old through.

    Apparently something like this happened to my Aunt when she was about the same age... an old couple, a man and a woman, followed her around. She would talk to my grandmother a lot about it, and would be told no one was there. Eventually, my grandmother got tired of it and had my aunt show her exactly where they were.

    Then, my grandmother told got on "their" case and told them to leave my Aunt alone, to go away and that they were not welcome and were bothering my Aunt and were causing problems. Supposedly my Aunt never saw them again. My parents are going to try that next time my nephew sees him.

    I hope whatever it is, if anything, goes away. I'd hate for them to do that and my nephew to say that it didn't. For my nephew's case, and because it's damn creepy enough as it is. My nephew is an extraordinarily honest kid. He doesn't make up stuff for attention; he's sweet and loving and very genuine. A good kid. I don't think he's making this stuff up, especially given how genuinely agitated he gets and how he will suddenly react. He can be in the middle of talking to you and something will just catch his attention that isn't there and completely cut him off, and he'll get very agitated.

    Even worse, I suppose, would be if they tell Robert to go away, and he did... to my nephew's house. :|

    Anyway, I know this is a very odd topic and I'm just basically curious if anyone has any insight or experience or suggestions. Even hilarious ones.
    I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

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  • Little Texan
    Full Member Status

    • Jan 2004
    • 4579

    #2
    I've never had any experience with ghosts or spirits, but my mother told me when she and her husband used to live in Denton (TX), they lived in this house and she would hear strange noises at night while she was there alone such as pans banging around in the kitchen and footsteps. She said she hated to be alone in that house at night because it scared the shit out of her.

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    • hideyoursheep
      ROTH ARMY ELITE
      • Jan 2007
      • 6351

      #3
      Dude, call ghostbusters...
      The Atlantic Paranormal Society (TAPS)

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      • Seshmeister
        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

        • Oct 2003
        • 35756

        #4
        It's your imagination. The build up of air behind you may be caused by eating too many beans.

        The kid has an imaginary friend like many kids have and you've unconsciously freaked him out by your reactions. The more you react the more he'll do it.

        Trust me there are no ghosts, spirits, sprites, goblins, werewolves or invisible badgers.

        Cheers!

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        • hideyoursheep
          ROTH ARMY ELITE
          • Jan 2007
          • 6351

          #5
          Originally posted by Seshmeister
          It's your imagination. The build up of air behind you may be caused by eating too many beans.

          The kid has an imaginary friend like many kids have and you've unconsciously freaked him out by your reactions. The more you react the more he'll do it.

          Trust me there are no ghosts, spirits, sprites, goblins, werewolves or invisible badgers.

          Cheers!

          Not many kids are scared of their own "imaginary friends".

          Maybe it's Bigfoot.

          Robert Bigfoot.

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          • CVH Rulz
            Head Fluffer
            • Jun 2005
            • 367

            #6
            Children can see ghosts that adults can't. I don't know the reasoning behind it other than maybe they don't have the idea in their head that they don't exist.

            Do you ever watch the "Ghost Whisperer?" You'll learn a lot. It's on tonight. If nothing else, the chick's hot.

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            • Seshmeister
              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

              • Oct 2003
              • 35756

              #7
              Originally posted by CVH Rulz
              Children can see ghosts that adults can't.
              Yeah and they shit themselves and find Barney entertaining...

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              • LoungeMachine
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Jul 2004
                • 32576

                #8
                Here's where Sesh and my views on "religion", spirituality, afterlife, diverge....

                Without getting into detail of my own experience, I ABSOLUTELY know [not believe] there is something out there past this dimension/life/world.

                That doesn't mean there's any truth to the Book of Talking Snakes, or any other "organized" religion.

                But there IS something else out there, and NO ONE is going to ever convince me otherwise after what I experienced.

                Good story, Dr. Love.

                Originally posted by Kristy
                Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                Originally posted by cadaverdog
                I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                • blonddgirl777
                  ROCKSTAR

                  • Mar 2005
                  • 5805

                  #9
                  Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                  ... Without getting into detail of my own experience, I ABSOLUTELY know [not believe] there is something out there past this dimension/life/world...


                  ... But there IS something else out there, and NO ONE is going to ever convince me otherwise after what I experienced.

                  Good story, Dr. Love.

                  I agree with that.
                  I also have my own experience and heard some, from trustworthy people that have no interest in lying about those things...

                  There IS something (everyone names it differently) and that something, sometimes reaches out for us. I think it's just a matter of being open and receptive to it or not.
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                  ... What erases the linger of horniness more than Al Quaida? Then blondegirl can post some new hot dudes and stir a new wave of horniness...
                  Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise
                  [B]... Cooking, I mean Cooking, is men's field...
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                  Originally posted by VanHalener
                  ... Fight the Good Fight and Win!...
                  Originally posted by FORD
                  ... And let's face it, if mothers (except Chelsea Clinton's) ruled this world, there would be no goddamned war in the first place...

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                  • blonddgirl777
                    ROCKSTAR

                    • Mar 2005
                    • 5805

                    #10
                    Originally posted by chan_bkny
                    When I was a kid I saw a ghost in our apartment frequently, and I, too, was too scared to go to the bathroom at night that either I would wake up my brother to walk to the bathroom with me or hold it in until the morning. I didn't tell my parents about seeing the ghost because I couldn't believe my eyes either. My dad doesn't believe in ghosts so I felt safe with him around because his presence drove away any ghosts.

                    About 10 years ago, I had visited a fortune teller who told me there were 3 ghosts in the apartment where we lived, but they were harmless. I was stunned upon hearing this as I had only seen one little ghost girl and had never told anyone about what I saw at home. The woman gave instructions to banish them. We burned incense and scattered some rice onto the ground. I didn't see any ghosts for a while after that. Until about 6 years ago, I had experiences with waking up suddenly at night feeling a heavy weight upon me. All my limbs were immobile, and I tried calling out to my brother and my parents but could not get my vocal chords to work. All that came out was a hoarse whisper. It was terrifying. It happened to my mom, too, one time when she took an afternoon nap. We moved out of that apartment ASAP.

                    I really believe that ghosts exist. Now when I step into an empty room or empty hallway, I approach slowly and cautiously getting a feel for the atmosphere. I don't want to offend or disturb any spirits if they are around. Sometimes I wonder if the ones I saw were in some kind of trouble or distressed about something from their past lives, something they had not had a chance to finish doing before they died and were seeking help from me? I don't know. I'm too terrified to find out what they want from me. Chills are going down spine as I'm typing this.
                    Chills as I'm reading this, Chan.!

                    I used to be afraid, land ike you, wake up people to escort me in the dark of the night... But since I got very ill last summer (and was diagnosed to die), something happened to me spiritually... I am not afraid of that kind of "unknown" at all anymore!

                    A miracle happened to me and I beleive that there is something mighty good out there that is stronger than the bad (SOMETIMES)!

                    Although, I also beleive there is evil but it doesn't scare me...
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                    Originally posted by Nitro Express
                    ... What erases the linger of horniness more than Al Quaida? Then blondegirl can post some new hot dudes and stir a new wave of horniness...
                    Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise
                    [B]... Cooking, I mean Cooking, is men's field...
                    http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...i_triangle.jpg
                    Originally posted by VanHalener
                    ... Fight the Good Fight and Win!...
                    Originally posted by FORD
                    ... And let's face it, if mothers (except Chelsea Clinton's) ruled this world, there would be no goddamned war in the first place...

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                    • blonddgirl777
                      ROCKSTAR

                      • Mar 2005
                      • 5805

                      #11
                      Originally posted by chan_bkny
                      It's true. Take a baby house hunting, and if the baby cries for no reason, there's something not right with the house/apartment.
                      We bought a house last spring and brought our 1 year 1/2 old son everytime we visited...
                      It would be interesting to have you here and talk about that stuff, over a couple bottles of wine Chan.!
                      http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...oman-movie.jpg
                      Originally posted by Nitro Express
                      ... What erases the linger of horniness more than Al Quaida? Then blondegirl can post some new hot dudes and stir a new wave of horniness...
                      Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise
                      [B]... Cooking, I mean Cooking, is men's field...
                      http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...i_triangle.jpg
                      Originally posted by VanHalener
                      ... Fight the Good Fight and Win!...
                      Originally posted by FORD
                      ... And let's face it, if mothers (except Chelsea Clinton's) ruled this world, there would be no goddamned war in the first place...

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                      • blonddgirl777
                        ROCKSTAR

                        • Mar 2005
                        • 5805

                        #12
                        Kids don't make stuff up if they haven't been fed the "material" to do so before (at that age)...
                        And it is easy to tell when a kid is lying.
                        Good luck with that and thanks for sharing, Dr. Love!
                        Last edited by blonddgirl777; 03-13-2009, 03:29 PM.
                        http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...oman-movie.jpg
                        Originally posted by Nitro Express
                        ... What erases the linger of horniness more than Al Quaida? Then blondegirl can post some new hot dudes and stir a new wave of horniness...
                        Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise
                        [B]... Cooking, I mean Cooking, is men's field...
                        http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...i_triangle.jpg
                        Originally posted by VanHalener
                        ... Fight the Good Fight and Win!...
                        Originally posted by FORD
                        ... And let's face it, if mothers (except Chelsea Clinton's) ruled this world, there would be no goddamned war in the first place...

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                        • Nickdfresh
                          SUPER MODERATOR

                          • Oct 2004
                          • 49567

                          #13
                          Dr. Love, is your parents house located in the general vicinity of power lines? (serious question)...

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                          • Guitar Shark
                            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 7579

                            #14
                            Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                            Without getting into detail of my own experience, I ABSOLUTELY know [not believe] there is something out there past this dimension/life/world.

                            That doesn't mean there's any truth to the Book of Talking Snakes, or any other "organized" religion.

                            But there IS something else out there, and NO ONE is going to ever convince me otherwise after what I experienced.
                            Finally, the mystery of LoungeMachine's identity is solved. He is Sammy Hagar.
                            ROTH ARMY MILITIA


                            Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
                            Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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                            • Seshmeister
                              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                              • Oct 2003
                              • 35756

                              #15
                              Originally posted by chan_bkny
                              It's true. Take a baby house hunting, and if the baby cries for no reason, there's something not right with the house/apartment.
                              Also if you hear a badger squeal on the way to view a house you must take off your socks, put them on your ears and say felchineep three times or the evil spirits who live under your bed will eat you.

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