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Diamondjimi
03-17-2009, 12:40 AM
EDDIE VAN HALEN: 'I'm Really Nothing Like JIMI HENDRIX' - Mar. 16, 2009

In a recent article in USA Today, Eddie Van Halen was referred to as "the Jimi Hendrix of his generation."

What does Eddie think of accolades like that? "I say it's a hell of a compliment, but at the same time I'm really nothing like Jimi Hendrix," he tells Spinner.com, quickly adding that he doesn't mean any disrespect. "I'm just saying I'm very different than Hendrix because I create stuff. He used so many effects and stuff that I was the complete opposite. I wanted the guitar to do things, but nobody built the guitar that I wanted. Hendrix didn't do things like that. He was an amazing player, but if you ever heard any live bootlegs of him, even some of the Woodstock stuff, it's hard for him to keep that thing even tuned."


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:rolleyes:

Diamondjimi
03-17-2009, 01:38 AM
"I'm just saying I'm very different than Hendrix because I create stuff."

Hendrix worked with Roger Mayer creating and modifying FX pedals. Effects many after him take for granted...
Hendrix was an innovator in studio production. Backward recording and creating sonic landscapes with his music.


"He used so many effects and stuff that I was the complete opposite." :smiley-sniffer:
Tape delays, MXR Phase 90, MXR Flanger, Variac voltage regulator...
Plus:
http://classicvanhalen.com/photopost/data/539/EVH_-_1986_2.jpg http://classicvanhalen.com/photopost/data/539/EVH_-_1986_1.jpg

Yeah , the complete opposite... :rolleyes:



"I wanted the guitar to do things, but nobody built the guitar that I wanted. (insert Fender Wolfgang plug here)Hendrix didn't do things like that. " :nose-picking:

Hendrix did things on a pretty much stock Strat , Buddy Holly could never have dreamed of...


He was an amazing player, but if you ever heard any live bootlegs of him, even some of the Woodstock stuff, it's hard for him to keep that thing even tuned."


Back peddle + slag rebuttal... nice Ed... :rolleyes:


No, not an influence at all huh? 'Lil bit of Jimi feedback (sans amp humping) and some Jimi dive bombs....
I think if Jimi chose to be the fastest player in town ,I think he could have achieved it...
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Is that a Phase shifter I hear?

And having a Floyd Rose couldn't save this astounding performance... sorry Ed...
:smiley-sniffer::guzzle::stoned-smiley::dickhead:
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:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Panamark
03-17-2009, 02:47 AM
Im not an Eddie sympathist, but EVH has performed some
shit (live) that Hendrix never came close to.
I guess if you love Jimi you could throw in the good old,
"but if he lived longer"...
Eddie, Randy, Yngwie all blew away Hendrix's stuff...
But Hendrix built the path, no doubt about it !!!

Eddie was the egg, and Jimi was the chicken.
(No disrepect intended !)

ELVIS
03-17-2009, 02:48 AM
First of all, Hendrix was an incredible song writer and in my opinion he put more emphasis on the song than the guitar itself...

Most good Van halen songs were based on riffs Ed came up with in the early 70's as evidenced on early boots and most likely put together with much help from Ted Templeman and Donn Landee...

But still, Hendrix and maybe a couple others like Buddy Guy invented everything Edward ever did besides tapping...so...

Fuck Edward


:elvis:

Panamark
03-17-2009, 02:59 AM
Elvis me old mate ! How about a Youtube of Hendrix that
will make my mind blowout, something that will force me
to reconsider my whole way of thinking...

BTW, I think the Beatles played Revolution before Jimi
ripped his speakers !:tongue0011:

ELVIS
03-17-2009, 03:01 AM
Ok...gimmie a sec...

ELVIS
03-17-2009, 03:17 AM
Here's one...

And crank it up!

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:elvis:

Panamark
03-17-2009, 03:25 AM
Taking into consideration the year '67 (a good one too !)
Thats impressive.
Put it side by side with one of your riffs, and I would
think your playing is better..
So maybe I still dont get it ???
(Again no disrepect, I think you are better than Hendrix !!)

hideyoursheep
03-17-2009, 03:28 AM
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Fuck You, Eddie!

hideyoursheep
03-17-2009, 03:44 AM
Many, many people have played Strats, and NO ONE.....could get as much out of it as Hendrix.

ELVIS
03-17-2009, 03:52 AM
I have the ability to kinda make a solo (and rhythm) flow with a bit of flair, which to me was the most impressive thing about Edward...and he's how I learned it...

But that's exactly what he lacked on the last tour and it was sad to see...

Oh, how bout this one ??

Killing Floor 1966 - before he ripped his speakers...

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And check out how the song evolved in less than one year...

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:elvis:

ELVIS
03-17-2009, 03:55 AM
One more...

Albert Hall - Foxy Lady

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:elvis:

hideyoursheep
03-17-2009, 03:56 AM
Hendrix never seemed to play the same song the same way twice....Ed used to be that way with his solos...

ELVIS
03-17-2009, 04:00 AM
Many, many people have played Strats, and NO ONE.....could get as much out of it as Hendrix.

That's bullshit!

Watch this...

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:elvis:

hideyoursheep
03-17-2009, 04:01 AM
Hendrix appreciation....why not?



Ed's been looking for a guitar that does what he wants his whole life.

What does he want?

A guitar that plays itself while he sits at home on his ass?

hideyoursheep
03-17-2009, 04:06 AM
That's bullshit!

Watch this...
:elvis:

:rolleyes:

Comparing Wankvie to Hendrix is like comparing a red crayon to a rainbow...

I don't think you hear Hendrix...:biggrin:

ELVIS
03-17-2009, 04:14 AM
I can hear hendrix and I can out play anyone I know personally, so i've been told...

A few members on this board have heard me play a few things...


:elvis:

Panamark
03-17-2009, 05:36 AM
HYS, I've heard him, he's top shelf !
I thought I was ok, until I heard him.
Sesh is another hidden gem..
But E is da Man ;)

Unless someone shows me differently !

ELVIS
03-17-2009, 06:30 AM
I appreciate that...

I have a few new things and I also have drums now and been playing regularly for about a year and a half...

When I was 18 I was playing in a band with this awesome black Randy Rhoads freak and we were equal, although My old best friend and awesome bass player said I was better...

Anyway, when the drummer went home i'd get on the drums and we would Jam Ozzy, but the very first time I got on the drums the guitar player was amazed and asked "You ever thought about being a drummer ??

So I always wanted drums but didn't get them until recently and i'm doing pretty good playing all kinds of music, not just rock...

So sooner or later I plan to be posting some complete songs...


:elvis:

ELVIS
03-17-2009, 06:33 AM
BTW, we thought it sounded so good with me on drums, we made a 10 song live recording that came out really well and I took it that night and I guess it fell through the hole in my VW Baja floor...

I drove around looking for that tape for weeks...


:mad:

hideyoursheep
03-17-2009, 06:41 AM
I can hear hendrix and I can out play anyone I know personally, so i've been told...

A few members on this board have heard me play a few things...


:elvis:


dude, DUDE, DUDE!

Unless your are Yngwie, I have no idea where that came from..

When did I say YOU sucked?

I'd never heard you...WTF??:umm:

hideyoursheep
03-17-2009, 06:42 AM
BTW, ELVIS...

I'm thinking about getting a 7 string..

Do you have any, and how do you like it?

Panamark
03-17-2009, 06:48 AM
Man..... that sucks ass

Hey, (going way off topic again) but have you ever
heard an original riff in a dream, thought (while you
are still dreaming) I'm gonna remember this when
I wake up and its so awesome !!!

*THEN*

You wake up, have your morning piss, grab a coffee,
do whatever the fuck you do for a few hours, then
(as with all dreams) something triggers the memory
of the dream/riff... Except 9/10 times you cant
recall the actual music, just the fact that it
was there in your dream...

Man that fucks with my head

:elvis:

Panamark
03-17-2009, 06:49 AM
Shit, I should have quoted Elvis, I didnt mean you suck
ass Hideyoursheep !! lol.....

Panamark
03-17-2009, 06:53 AM
BTW, ELVIS...

I'm thinking about getting a 7 string..

Do you have any, and how do you like it?

I would like to see a 7 string with an extra high string,
instead of the low one...

Dunno why, would probably suck, but would love to try some
sweeps down to a mega high note without doing gymnastics
to find it...

Cato
03-17-2009, 06:58 AM
That's bullshit!

Watch this...

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:elvis:

are you serious?

:picknose:

hideyoursheep
03-17-2009, 07:00 AM
Man..... that sucks ass

Hey, (going way off topic again) but have you ever
heard an original riff in a dream, thought (while you
are still dreaming) I'm gonna remember this when
I wake up and its so awesome !!!

*THEN*

You wake up, have your morning piss, grab a coffee,
do whatever the fuck you do for a few hours, then
(as with all dreams) something triggers the memory
of the dream/riff... Except 9/10 times you cant
recall the actual music, just the fact that it
was there in your dream...

Man that fucks with my head

:elvis:

More than a few times, actually...that's odd.:hee:

I can't wait for the technology where you have electrodes attached to your head while you sleep, and record your "dream riffs" on your ipod.:snore::jammin:

Va Beach VH Fan
03-17-2009, 07:11 AM
I don't believe Ed was talking shit at all, he goes out of his way to compliment Jimi....

CVH Rulz
03-17-2009, 07:28 AM
I don't believe Ed was talking shit at all....

I agree...

Here's the whole article:

Eddie Van Halen Dismisses Jimi Hendrix Comparisons

When Eddie Van Halen talks about guitars, people listen. It's like LeBron James waxing poetic on the art of the assist, or Kate Winslet on getting acting awards. Van Halen is that highly regarded in the guitar world. In fact, in a recent article in USA Today, he was referred to as "the Jimi Hendrix of his generation."

High praise indeed. What does Eddie think of accolades like that? "I say it's a hell of a compliment, but at the same time I'm really nothing like Jimi Hendrix," he says, quickly adding that he doesn't mean any disrespect. "I'm just saying I'm very different than Hendrix because I create stuff. He used so many effects and stuff that I was the complete opposite. I wanted the guitar to do things, but nobody built the guitar that I wanted. Hendrix didn't do things like that. He was an amazing player, but if you ever heard any live bootlegs of him, even some of the Woodstock stuff, it's hard for him to keep that thing even tuned."

Growing up in Southern California, Van Halen got turned on to the six-string by surf music. "The first song I ever learned was 'Pipeline,' by the Surfaris, and 'Wipeout.' Then I hear this song on the radio -- it was the 'Blues Theme' on the soundtrack to 'Easy Rider,'" he says. "It was the first time I heard a distorted guitar, and I'm going, 'God, what is that?' I didn't really have an amp then. I went to Dow Radio in Pasadena, and I jerry-rigged this plug to plug into the stereo. I just turned the damn thing all the way up, and it distorted. So every amp I've ever used, I just turn it all the way up."

All of Van Halen's guitars, starting with his famous first model, Frankenstein, have been custom-made. And now he's taken his 35 years of experience and put it into the Wolfgang, his new Fender guitar, named for his son. "One more shot working with a major company to give people what I use," he says.

The guitar went through two years of vigorous testing, according to Van Halen. "I'm pretty hard on Fender, and I make sure that they keep an eye on the people that make the parts that go into my guitars and my amps. I'm not a tyrant -- it's just that my name and my son's name are on it, and I don't just endorse, I build it."

Of course, today's technology makes everything so easy, which Van Halen doesn't see as a good thing. "I think it stops people from being creative, because they don't have to," he says. "But also, to me, it lowers the standards. I don't know who exactly is in charge of the MP3 player, the iPod business, who decided that is gonna be the standard sampling rate, because it's nothing compared to a good mastered LP, nothing at all."

Isn't that thinking a bit antiquated, back to the way of the dinosaurs? "Yeah, maybe, but dinosaurs ruled this planet a lot longer than people have," he says, laughing.

Eddie Van Halen Dismisses Jimi Hendrix Comparisons - Spinner.com (http://www.spinner.com/2009/03/16/eddie-van-halen-dismisses-jimi-hendrix-comparisons/)

ELVIS
03-17-2009, 08:02 AM
dude, DUDE, DUDE!

Unless your are Yngwie, I have no idea where that came from..

When did I say YOU sucked?

I'd never heard you...WTF??:umm:

I was just making the point that I can hear and discern gutar playing, thats all...

I guess I could have said it differently...

And Mark, I have dreamed guitar before but it wasn't as good as what goes through my head while awake...:D

I constantly hear drums bass and guitar in my head in all sorts of patterns and arangements...

But usually, when i've been playing regularly, the first thing that I start playing off the top of my head is the best, and if I record that, listen to it over and over and add some bits it's usually good...I think anyway...

And back to Sheep...;)

I'm not interested in a 7 string guitar or a 5 string bass...

I have enough trouble with 6 and 4...


:elvis:

ZahZoo
03-17-2009, 08:17 AM
Pathetic... Ed needs to go do a little more history study on Jimi before he opens his trap.

The only significant difference between effects usage was Jimi used a distortion pedal and Ed didn't. Jimi used an octavia... Ed used an Eventide harmonizor. Jimi used a uni-vibe Ed used the harmonizor, delays, phaser and flanger. Jimi used a wah... Oh Ed didn't but now markets one... Bullshit.

Hendrix wrote and produced more albums worth of original material in 3 years than Ed has done in 30.

The whole irony I see with Ed is he "thinks" he's created stuff. Reality... he takes stuff from others who created it and tweeks it. He the ultimate tweeker...

This is ultimately the case with all of his musical gear... nothing created just a bunch of stuff tweeked. Guitar playing isn't much different. None of Ed's tricks were his creation... tons of others did the same before. Ed just tweeked them a bit and now calls them his own.

hideyoursheep
03-17-2009, 08:22 AM
I'm not interested in a 7 string guitar or a 5 string bass...I have enough trouble with 6 and 4...
:elvis:
I felt the same way until recently.


Well, I'm gonna get me one and see what's doin'...

ELVIS
03-17-2009, 08:24 AM
Yeah Zah...

""I'm just saying I'm very different than Hendrix because I create stuff."

Hendrix didn't create "stuff" ??


:elvis:

Nickdfresh
03-17-2009, 08:27 AM
All I know is the Hendrix Woodstock DVD I caught a while back is as good as anything I've ever seen live rock and roll related...

ELVIS
03-17-2009, 08:28 AM
I felt the same way until recently.


Well, I'm gonna get me one and see what's doin'...

I appreciate the sound of a low B string, but i'd just rather tune down to D or do alternate tunings...

7 strings would confuse me...


:elvis:

ELVIS
03-17-2009, 08:32 AM
All I know is the Hendrix Woodstock DVD I caught a while back is as good as anything I've ever seen live rock and roll related...

I have that, but if you want to see the Experience in their prime, get the Monterey DVD...

There's also a CD version that has way better audio and includes a way heavy version of Can You See Me, which wasn't filmed for some stupid reason...


:elvis:

ELVIS
03-17-2009, 08:34 AM
Here it is...

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:elvis:

ELVIS
03-17-2009, 08:50 AM
I'll bet not many of you have heard this...

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Who ever said Noel Redding was not that great on bass can kiss my ass...

:elvis:

ELVIS
03-17-2009, 09:06 AM
Here's a cool short clip...

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:elvis:

ELVIS
03-17-2009, 09:08 AM
Here's an excellent live clip...

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That's some good Live Hendrix...


:elvis:

degüello
03-17-2009, 09:33 AM
Eddie... always saying stupid, goofy shit.

Matt White
03-17-2009, 09:50 AM
SPeddie is just a dolt....

He's still has the inferiority complex that he had as a 23 year old when they broke.....

"Nobody is as good as me...I'm original...."

Yeah right....

As if they guy hasn' studied the masters....Hendrix, Page, Beck, Blackmore......

Hell...I can't remember the song on AC/DC's '75 Jailbreak...but there's an Angus Young solo on there that has some hammer/pull solo that sounds mysteriously similar to the tapping section in Eruption......

Speddie is an excellent thief...like all great players...he usually hides his influences very well...but we all learn from playing other peoples stuff....

chefcraig
03-17-2009, 10:35 AM
This is what happens when you have sycophantic guitar magazine writers blowing smoke up your ass from the time you are twenty one...you start to believe the crap foisted upon you. EVH has been slagging other players ever since the beginning of his career, usually in the same manner. He'll start off by saying "I don't wanna come off bad" or "I mean no disrespect" then proceeds to slam other guitarists while simultaneously taking undeserved credit for everything created under the sun.

And the comments are at times utterly baffling. Referring to Page as playing like a child with two broken fingers, claiming Randy Rhodes "did him to the bone", describing Eric Clapton as a better player when he was on drugs, the man insists on demeaning the achievements of others while exaggerating his own importance. And not all of his muddled thinking revolves around the guitar or other players. Who can forget this bit of utter nonsense offered recently...

"...Dave had slightly different ideas than Alex and I did. That led him to pursue a solo career. You know how the press can be. They turned it into a mudslinging thing that really never occurred. At least not to the extent that was reported. Where it actually started, nobody knows. Probably some journalist who took something out of context."

The fact is, in the twee land of Eddie Van Halen, there is always someone else to blame, someone else who did the deed, someone else to be the fall guy. Look at the long list of former close friends, "soul brothers" and music companies that have been up close and personal with the "EVH Experience". More than anything else, this points to a highly disturbing pattern of behavior with the guy that has existed for years, now.

As a fan, I just wish the jerk would simply grow the fuck up, put out some new music and let his work do the talking for him. For one reason or another, there appears to be more honesty in one of his guitar solos than has come out in an entire career's worth of insipid interviews.

kwame k
03-17-2009, 10:46 AM
That pretty much sums it up, Craig.

Nickdfresh
03-17-2009, 10:55 AM
I don't believe Ed was talking shit at all, he goes out of his way to compliment Jimi....


Eddie... always saying stupid, goofy shit.

I agree with both points. I don't think Ed in anyway meant to disrespect Hendrix. I think he was trying to point out differences and remind people that Jimi, as great as he was, did not invent rock and roll being played on the electric guitar. It's just that Ed is a bit inarticulate, like when he sort of slagged off Jimmy Page in the 80s by saying he was "sloppy" live. He made a bunch of complements about Page and then got called on the one negative thing he said. And I think Ed had a point - I love live Zeppelin and Page was great, but he had his ever increasing off-nights as time went on corresponding with increasing drug and alcohol use...

But yeah, Ed didn't invent virtuosity either and should choose his words more carefully in such interviews...

Nitro Express
03-17-2009, 11:25 AM
I took some bass lessons from Jack Casady at the Fur Peace Ranch. In fact everyone I've met from the Jefferson Airplane (Jorma, Jack, Grace) seem to be nice people. What's cool about Jack and Jorma is there is zero ego and they think it's cool you are trying to learn to play. I also took some lessons from GE Smith who is the best guitar teacher.

Jack told us Hendrix was a musician first and just liked to jam and he said everyone in those days packed their guitars around and jammed on the fly anywhere. He said it was a fun time.

Nitro Express
03-17-2009, 11:30 AM
In short. Eddie is a drunk. Add ego and alcohol and you get Edward Lodjewick Van Halen.

Nitro Express
03-17-2009, 11:39 AM
My wife grew up just up the road from where Jimi Hendrix is buried in Renton, Washinton. In fact, my brother in law worked for that cemetery and he told me he could take me to Jimi's grave. This was before the new fancy memorial was built and Jimi just had a small, flat tombstone with a Strat on it. It was rainy and wet and all the grass was off jimi's grave due to all the people visiting it.

What was cool is he took me to see the collection of stuff people left on the grave that the cemetery kept. It was wild. He said sometimes they would catch people having sex on the grave which is creepy.

I doubt Eddie Van Halen will be remember at such insane and creepy levels.

Nitro Express
03-17-2009, 11:59 AM
I'll bet not many of you have heard this...

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Who ever said Noel Redding was not that great on bass can kiss my ass...

:elvis:

Noel had some great bass chops. The Experience were a great band all around. Mitch and Noel were the shit.

chefcraig
03-17-2009, 12:09 PM
I took some bass lessons from Jack Casady at the Fur Peace Ranch. In fact everyone I've met from the Jefferson Airplane (Jorma, Jack, Grace) seem to be nice people. What's cool about Jack and Jorma is there is zero ego and they think it's cool you are trying to learn to play. I also took some lessons from GE Smith who is the best guitar teacher.

Jack told us Hendrix was a musician first and just liked to jam and he said everyone in those days packed their guitars around and jammed on the fly anywhere. He said it was a fun time.

That is so cool that you had the opportunity to meet and learn from Jack. I picked up his DVD a while back, and more than being greatly informative in a non-condescending manner, the fellow (as well as Jorma, who makes a guest appearance) really comes off as a decent, down to Earth sort of fellow.

The DVD features a good booklet with diagrams, and is terrific for the beginner or advanced player alike. http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-happy-smileys-336.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/)


http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9286/41bhpzvc88lss500.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/my.php?image=41bhpzvc88lss500.jpg)

indeedido
03-17-2009, 12:42 PM
You can't really compare Hendrix to EVH. Hendrix was blues based, electric blues. While EVH has some roots in blues, he is not a traditional blues guitarist, more electric rock. Jimi took the strat and did things no one else did. EVH is standing on his shoulders, everyone that came after Jimi is standing on his shoulders. He brought the Marshall stack to the foreground. He brought the strat to new heights. EVH would be a different player today if not for him. Clapton and Hendrix paved the road for him. Jimi didn't create anything? What a stupid comment to make. Ed is a tool.

ELVIS
03-17-2009, 01:18 PM
Jack told us Hendrix was a musician first and just liked to jam and he said everyone in those days packed their guitars around and jammed on the fly anywhere. He said it was a fun time.

Yeah, i've read a lot about Hendrix and who he really was...

So many people think he was this dark, marose type character and from what I understand he was the exact opposite...

Jimi was funny. You can tell that from recording session boots...

Jimi made friends with everybody and invited them to the studo which didn't make others too happy, especially Noel Redding who left the group during the making of Electric Lady Land. He came back to finish some of the album but departed again for good. Some of the bass on that album is Jimi...

Jimi had cameras and enjoyed taking pictures...

He had a ton of girlfriends but was always fond of his girlfriend in New York, Lithofayne Pridgeon, or "faye."

He also had a steady girlfriend in London, Kathy Etchingham who later wrote a book about Hendrix...

But Jimi was very social, although shy, but Chas Chandler described him as "the life of the party."

Although I did read when he drank too much he was prone to violent outbursts...

Anyway...

This is one of, if not the first professional recording of Hendrix on a really cool soulful Little Richard song...

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:elvis:

Vinnie Velvet
03-17-2009, 01:19 PM
While Eddie is still a dick, its times when I listen to 'Fair Warning' that reinstates the fact that NO ONE has played anything remotely as close as that masterpiece. Not Hendrix, Page, whoever.

That is not the 'normal way' to play a guitar. That is why it separates Ed from those that came before or after him. Its just so 'way out there'.

But again, no disrespect to Hendrix. He certainly paved the way.

I also agree its mags like Guitar World and even fans that have been feeding Ed with the 'god' talk that it has certainly got to his head. I mean, Eddie's best work was from 78-84, ironically, the Dave years. After that, I guess without Dave giving him a kick in the arse every now and then and coupled with Ed's alcoholism, he got lazy. That left us with Van Hagar.

Diamondjimi
03-17-2009, 01:23 PM
I liked Eddie a lot more in the CVH years. You know , the days when he kept his f&*kin trap shut...

ELVIS
03-17-2009, 01:34 PM
You can't really compare Hendrix to EVH. Hendrix was blues based, electric blues. While EVH has some roots in blues, he is not a traditional blues guitarist, more electric rock. Jimi took the strat and did things no one else did. EVH is standing on his shoulders, everyone that came after Jimi is standing on his shoulders. He brought the Marshall stack to the foreground. He brought the strat to new heights. EVH would be a different player today if not for him. Clapton and Hendrix paved the road for him. Jimi didn't create anything? What a stupid comment to make. Ed is a tool.

Eric Clapton was Edward's main influence and you can hear it if you study both...

The only influence I believe he got from Hendrix was the coolness hendrix posessed, which Edward has long lost...

Even Yngwie said he liked Hendrix for just how cool he made it all appear, but not his guitar playing, although later in Yngwie's career he said he appreciated Jimi's music much more...

And it was Pete Townshend who brought the Marshall Stack to the foreground and it was Pete who turned Jimi onto Marshalls, as Jimi admitted he had no idea what kind of amps to use. And BTW, he often used a combination of Fender and Marshall amps...

And finally, in my opinion, most of Edwards playing, aside from the tired old tapping is all blues based...


:elvis:

ELVIS
03-17-2009, 01:43 PM
While Eddie is still a dick, its times when I listen to 'Fair Warning' that reinstates the fact that NO ONE has played anything remotely as close as that masterpiece. Not Hendrix, Page, whoever.

That is not the 'normal way' to play a guitar. That is why it separates Ed from those that came before or after him. Its just so 'way out there'.



I agree with that, except I don't like to compare apples to oranges...

But fair Warinig is a masterpiece as is Axis Bold As Love...

What I didn't like at the time was an article I read after the album came out where Ed slags off on Michael Anthony, but he at least said dave did a good job...

I feel Michael's playing on Fair warning is incredible and it wouldn't be the masterpiece it is without him...

Maybe Ed was jealous of Michael for possibly tons of reasons I could get into...


:elvis:

Full Bug
03-17-2009, 01:46 PM
This is what happens when you have sycophantic guitar magazine writers blowing smoke up your ass from the time you are twenty one...you start to believe the crap foisted upon you. EVH has been slagging other players ever since the beginning of his career, usually in the same manner. He'll start off by saying "I don't wanna come off bad" or "I mean no disrespect" then proceeds to slam other guitarists while simultaneously taking undeserved credit for everything created under the sun.

And the comments are at times utterly baffling. Referring to Page as playing like a child with two broken fingers, claiming Randy Rhodes "did him to the bone", describing Eric Clapton as a better player when he was on drugs, the man insists on demeaning the achievements of others while exaggerating his own importance. And not all of his muddled thinking revolves around the guitar or other players. Who can forget this bit of utter nonsense offered recently...

"...Dave had slightly different ideas than Alex and I did. That led him to pursue a solo career. You know how the press can be. They turned it into a mudslinging thing that really never occurred. At least not to the extent that was reported. Where it actually started, nobody knows. Probably some journalist who took something out of context."

The fact is, in the twee land of Eddie Van Halen, there is always someone else to blame, someone else who did the deed, someone else to be the fall guy. Look at the long list of former close friends, "soul brothers" and music companies that have been up close and personal with the "EVH Experience". More than anything else, this points to a highly disturbing pattern of behavior with the guy that has existed for years, now.

As a fan, I just wish the jerk would simply grow the fuck up, put out some new music and let his work do the talking for him. For one reason or another, there appears to be more honesty in one of his guitar solos than has come out in an entire career's worth of insipid interviews.
This....
Great post.....:appl:

Kristy
03-17-2009, 02:15 PM
But still, Hendrix and maybe a couple others like Buddy Guy invented everything Edward ever did besides tapping...so...

Fuck Edward


Good to see someone give props to Buddy Guy. Never cared much for him until I saw him play live back in 2004 when and the guy knocked me right out of my seat. Guy is a phenomenon unto himself: a no frills, balls out traditional blues player that can make a Fender Strat scream like Gisele Bundchen in heat.

ELVIS
03-17-2009, 02:18 PM
Hendrix used to go see Buddy play, who would play behind his back and roll on the floor, so hendrix walked up to him after a show one night and asked to sit in and they developed a friendship after that...


;)

ZahZoo
03-17-2009, 02:20 PM
Actually Jimi was a huge fan of Buddy Guy. Their paths crossed many times playin the Chitlin Circuit in the South during the early 60's after Hendrix left the Army.

ELVIS
03-17-2009, 02:21 PM
Buddy Guy - 1967

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:elvis:

ELVIS
03-17-2009, 02:28 PM
Check out this 1965 clip...

Out of Sight - James Brown song

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:elvis:

Kristy
03-17-2009, 02:28 PM
I know guy has been around for years. Since seeing him play live I've been searching and collecting most of his stuff that he has recorded. His version of Lowell Fulson's 'Tramp' is brilliant. Even when he plays it live do you ever hear so much controlled reverb that...that...I have no idea how he pulls it off.

ELVIS
03-17-2009, 02:29 PM
I discovered new YouTube features...:D

Sarge
03-17-2009, 02:31 PM
Hendrix is timeless.
EVH has made his mark as well.

DavidLeeNatra
03-17-2009, 02:33 PM
are you serious?

:picknose:

can't help...I hate that fat fuck of a poser...deeply...:sick0020:

MUSICMANN
03-17-2009, 02:46 PM
Well, i know it was wrote somewhere that Hendrix was quoted as saying that above all other players he thought Billy Gibbons was the ultimate guitarist.

If you think about it, Ed really wasn't dissing Hendrix, but honestly stating simple facts. They are two of the greatest guitar players to ever live and at the same time nothing alike.

Ed, i would say plays more in line with Clapton and Gibbons. If you sit back and listen to Billy, his use of pitch harmonics and the way he played rhythm guitar with that heavy tone seems more like an influence even before Ed hit the national scene.

I have nothing but good things to say about Hendrix. He could play something totally wrong for a particular song and bend a note until he made it work.

Ed, just seems like he makes the guitar do whatever he wants and in those early years seemed god like.

ELVIS
03-17-2009, 03:09 PM
Well, i know it was wrote somewhere that Hendrix was quoted as saying that above all other players he thought Billy Gibbons was the ultimate guitarist.



Pretty much, yep...

"Billy was considered by Jimi Hendrix to be one of the Top Guitarists around he even once said that Billy Gibbons was America's Best guitarist . Jimi actually gave Billy his Pink Strat . Billy fondly recalled the moment with the guitar legend .

"I was in the motel one night practicing in my room and this dude stuck his head in the door and said, 'Hey-y man, I thought I heard something going on in here.' It was Jimi Hendrix. I was speechless. I couldn't move. He took my guitar away and lay down across the bed with his head dangling towards the floor, looking at the ceiling. He'd run off this incredible line and then look up at me and said, (in Hendrix space-drawl tones) 'Say, man, c'n you do that?' Then he'd laugh and play some more. After that he started teaching me. I learned a lot from him.""


I would say that's a definate connection between Edward and Hendrix...


:elvis:

FORD
03-17-2009, 04:34 PM
Jack told us Hendrix was a musician first and just liked to jam and he said everyone in those days packed their guitars around and jammed on the fly anywhere. He said it was a fun time.

Jimi kicking it with The Stones backstage at Madison Square Garden, November 1969

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Onofrio
03-17-2009, 04:49 PM
The argument of "who's better" in music is always a ridiculous one. I like Keith Moon better than Neil Pert. I like Lemmy better than Flea. I like Billy Gibbons better than Clapton. And yes, I like Eddie Van Halen more than Jimi Hendrix, by far. Hell, I like EVH better than anyone! Do I like Jimi? You bet. Love him, guy was fuckin' unbelievable, as evidenced in all the previous youtubes posted in this thread. I watched every one of 'em and they're just fucking sick! But what I don't like is how whenever I state that Eddie is better than Jimi, it's treated as tho I said the earth was flat. I'm fed up with the constant beating of the baby-boomer "fact" that nothing has ever been as good as when they were young. Rock'n'roll was better, Kids were better, Drugs were better. Ah Bullshit! Play On Fire from Tokyo '78 and find me anything that can touch it, that can move me like that can, that can make me run through a wall! and that's without the visual! Jimi was an incredible showman, it's a big part of what made his live show so fantastic, but so is Eddie, just as exciting to the eyes as to the ears. (and don't forget that DLR was sharing the same stage).
As for changing up the solos every night, listen to all the Atomic Punks from the last tour, just winging the solo, different every time, sometimes drastically different.
I do wish Eddie could just take a compliment though, jeez man you're already Eddie Fuckin Van Halen, how much recognition do you need?

Nitro Express
03-17-2009, 05:01 PM
That is so cool that you had the opportunity to meet and learn from Jack. I picked up his DVD a while back, and more than being greatly informative in a non-condescending manner, the fellow (as well as Jorma, who makes a guest appearance) really comes off as a decent, down to Earth sort of fellow.

The DVD features a good booklet with diagrams, and is terrific for the beginner or advanced player alike. http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-happy-smileys-336.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/)


http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9286/41bhpzvc88lss500.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/my.php?image=41bhpzvc88lss500.jpg)

What's funny is I was watching that movie on the Altamont disaster and when I heard Jack's bass playing on The Other Side of This Life it floored me. I thought it was the best bass tone I ever heard. This was before Netscape made the internet what it is today but a few years ago I saw Jack had a website and saw he taught lessons every now and then. I guess it was a seek out the master and learn thing. I learned a tone about right hand technique and tone from Jack and I mean he has played through everything on the planet and has been at it for a half century.

Nitro Express
03-17-2009, 05:11 PM
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But this was the bass tone that floored me and sent me on my journey. LOL!

Nitro Express
03-17-2009, 05:35 PM
You would never know Jack was a hippi or in a San Fransisco psycodelic band. He's as clean cut as they come in pressed shirts and slacks and shined shoes. Jorma also jokes Jack is a major type A neat freak. Both Jack and Jorma have zero egos and consider themselves musicians who got lucky and more than gracious to share what they know whatever level of playing you are at. Very cool people.

Nitro Express
03-17-2009, 05:38 PM
I often wonder what Hendrix would be like today if he was still alive. It's kind of amazing how people evolve.

Kristy
03-17-2009, 06:25 PM
I often wonder what Hendrix would be like today if he was still alive. It's kind of amazing how people evolve.


Probably touring with The Jonas Brothers as a side show Disney act

Nitro Express
03-17-2009, 08:05 PM
Probably touring with The Jonas Brothers as a side show Disney act

The advantage of dying at the top of your game is you don't live long enough to fuck up a good thing.

VAiN
03-17-2009, 09:43 PM
I often wonder what Hendrix would be like today if he was still alive. It's kind of amazing how people evolve.

You think EVH is a mess? Hendrix would be equally, if not more, braindead then Eddie on his worst day in 2009.. of course Hendrix died young.. like Eddie right around WACF... what do you think you'd be saying about EVH if he died in 1980/81? Seriously, you guys talking shit about EVH and hailing Hendrix makes me sick. Apples and oranges.

ELVIS
03-17-2009, 09:48 PM
Hendrix wasn't the complete addict that Ed was or is...

He'd probably be doing like Buddy Guy or Clapton these days...and clean just like those guys...


:elvis:

Va Beach VH Fan
03-17-2009, 11:08 PM
The advantage of dying at the top of your game is you don't live long enough to fuck up a good thing.

Now that's one outstanding post....

ELVIS
03-17-2009, 11:09 PM
But what's the point if you're gone ??

ELVIS
03-18-2009, 12:15 AM
What asshole closed this thread ??

Kiss my ass! We have a nice discussion going on here...


:mad2:

Angel
03-18-2009, 12:27 AM
Buddy Guy has always been my favourite guitarist. I was raised on his stuff!

ELVIS
03-18-2009, 12:32 AM
Please tell me if those are your real titties...

Panamark
03-18-2009, 12:40 AM
Please tell me if those are your real titties...

Im ashamed you posted that !! :tongue0011:


lol... gotcha back !!! :D

darkknight
03-18-2009, 01:02 AM
I have the ability to kinda make a solo (and rhythm) flow with a bit of flair, which to me was the most impressive thing about Edward...and he's how I learned it...

But that's exactly what he lacked on the last tour and it was sad to see...

Oh, how bout this one ??

Killing Floor 1966 - before he ripped his speakers...

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And check out how the song evolved in less than one year...

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:elvis:

Actually, the first one, black and white is from 1969 in Stockholm. The color one is 1967 at Monterrey. A couple things give it away. The main one is he's playing a CBS Strat with maple neck in the b&w. He played the pre-CBS's with rosewood boards before those. Another, Mitch's hair is long and straight in the first one. He had short curly hair when they started out.

EVH is right, he's nothing like Hendrix. While I admire Ed for all he's done, he's nowhere near as creative nor the songwriter Jimi was. Jimi produced most of his own stuff. Ed is lost in the studio without someone at the helm. We've heard his records when nobody was there to say no....ahem....VHIII....

If I had to choose between the two it would be Jimi, handsdown. So much more to listen to.

GAR
03-18-2009, 01:28 AM
Hendrix appreciation....why not?



Ed's been looking for a guitar that does what he wants his whole life.

What does he want?

A guitar that plays itself while he sits at home on his ass?

Yes please, and if it can self-ignite a butane torch flametip for the glass pipe smokings, all the better..

GAR
03-18-2009, 01:40 AM
Hendrix wasn't the complete addict that Ed was or is...

His manager Mike Jeffrey was ripping the band off blind, Jimi being black, unable to do anything, no access to funds, depression issues.. I'd say Hendrix was nothing of an addict the way EVH has been both insulated, and enabled to continue his addictions.

Jimi only had the support of wellwishers and hangerons.

Jimi was incredibly creative.

Jimi was both an interesting, and authoritative lead vocalist.

Jimi wrote in double-entenre's.

Jimi's poetry influenced the world.

EVH is already mostly forgotten.. Jimi will never be forgotten.

GAR
03-18-2009, 01:48 AM
Hendrix wrote and produced more albums worth of original material in 3 years than Ed has done in 30.

"I pull into a gas station, and people go 'hey where you been - how come you ain't doin nothin lately?'

Just because I ain't put nothin' out dont mean I haven't done anything.."

Ten albums.. in the can!

Maybe he means: he's got ten albums of recording of him shitting in the can.

I understand from one old interview, the guy has amp inputs near the toilet in case he has an idea while going potty.

A shitty idea is still shit ideas.. I bet Ed has at least 30 albums of shitty ideas. At least!

ELVIS
03-18-2009, 02:42 AM
No way...

If he had ANYTHING those three songs with Hagar would be at least somewhat better...


:elvis:

ELVIS
03-18-2009, 02:45 AM
Actually, the first one, black and white is from 1969 in Stockholm.

I realised that last night when I saw a clip from the same show with a song from Electric Lady Land...


But thanks for pointing that out...

I should have at least caught the guitar differences...

I have almost 15 Strats...


:elvis:

ELVIS
03-18-2009, 02:46 AM
Im ashamed you posted that !! :tongue0011:


lol... gotcha back !!! :D

That's the third time I posted it...


:biggrin:

hideyoursheep
03-18-2009, 03:00 AM
The thing that jumps out at me about the Jimi/Edwad comparison is that Jimi had a 4 year run....4 years!.... and a shitload of "new" unreleased material that he left behind....There aren't many people who don't know who he is...or was...Everyone looked up to him, even his peers,

Ed, on the other hand, probably the greatest rhythm guitar player ever, made the two-handed technique famous overnight, nearly every band copied him, and by the end of the eighties, everyone was doing it gratuitously. So much so that it actually became out of "style".


You can't say that about Hendrix...he never went out of style...can you dig it?:D

hideyoursheep
03-18-2009, 03:03 AM
I have almost 15 Strats...


:elvis:

I hate you!



Just kidding..;)

Why so many?


Do you have on of those SRV strats?

Panamark
03-18-2009, 04:04 AM
Elvis even has a strat that makes his toast in the morning !!
The tone controls adjust the heating elements so
you can get *the* perfect slice of toast !

The whammy bar allows for convenient lowering and
raising of the toast.

Panamark
03-18-2009, 05:22 AM
I want to groan myself for my last post !
Elvis is the king of strats..
(and large black boobies)
I am not worthy !

Seshmeister
03-18-2009, 05:31 AM
The thing that jumps out at me about the Jimi/Edwad comparison is that Jimi had a 4 year run....4 years!.... and a shitload of "new" unreleased material that he left behind....There aren't many people who don't know who he is...or was...Everyone looked up to him, even his peers,

Ed, on the other hand, probably the greatest rhythm guitar player ever, made the two-handed technique famous overnight, nearly every band copied him, and by the end of the eighties, everyone was doing it gratuitously. So much so that it actually became out of "style".


You can't say that about Hendrix...he never went out of style...can you dig it?:D


Dying is good for the career or at least the myth though.

Just think how big Eddie Van Halen would be now if he had choked to death on Hagars cock back in 1985...

Nickdfresh
03-18-2009, 05:40 AM
I thought he did. :)

ELVIS
03-18-2009, 07:47 AM
Why so many?


Do you have on of those SRV strats?

I'm a lefty so I have a Strat I put together with an SRV body with a cool early custom shop small headstock rosewood Yngwie neck, 69 Woodstock pups, gold anodized pickguard and all gold hardware...

It's perfect to play lefty because the SRV body has a left-hand tremolo...

Almost every one of my Strats are pieced together by me with mostly all real USA Fender bodies, necks and hardware, just different pickups...

The only all original Strat is a '77 Lefty Sunburst and the only right hand guitar I have is a real '55 that is currently on the work bench...

Then I have all sorts of other guitars including a Tony Iommi SG that I changed all the hardware from black to chrome and a metallic pickguard and vintage green tuners...

That guitar looks and sounds great and I don't usually like Humbuckers, but the USA Iommi pups are so smooth, quiet, sharp looking and the neck pickup sounds like a single coil...

I also have several basses, like a rare lefty midnight blue with all black hardware and black binding Ric 4001 bass that everyone likes, a great sounding MIJ Jazz Bass...

Then I have various acoustics and parts and pickups galore...



Don't even ask about my amps...:D


:elvis:

hideyoursheep
03-18-2009, 08:39 AM
You're a lefty?!

Who would have guessed?


That reminds me of some guitar player I seen....it was for rightys, he played it lefty, and the strings were upside down!

Who is that dude?

ELVIS
03-18-2009, 08:45 AM
Albert King...

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u231/ttolnai/front-4.jpg


:elvis:

ELVIS
03-18-2009, 08:47 AM
Dick Dale...

http://leftyguitarist.shift62.net/images/c66a47e98f56880638b6d812b61b7a7a-DALE.21.muff&#37;20live.jpg


:elvis:

ELVIS
03-18-2009, 08:49 AM
Doyal Bramhall II

http://robinlull.com/Db_antns.jpg


:elvis:

hideyoursheep
03-18-2009, 09:06 AM
Doyal Bramhall II

http://robinlull.com/Db_antns.jpg


:elvis:

That's him..






and update your account, tightwad!:biggrin:

ELVIS
03-18-2009, 09:14 AM
What do you mean ??

Carloscda
03-18-2009, 03:03 PM
If I can chime in a bit here, speaking of Fair Warning & just mind blowing playing
listen to the solo spots at 2:O4 & 2:57 no one could touch Ed back in the day..

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Nitro Express
03-18-2009, 04:30 PM
Elvis even has a strat that makes his toast in the morning !!
The tone controls adjust the heating elements so
you can get *the* perfect slice of toast !

The whammy bar allows for convenient lowering and
raising of the toast.

I have a Strat where you stick the whammy bar up your ass and the tone controls control the vibration pattern and the volume knob controls the intensity.

chefcraig
03-18-2009, 05:00 PM
I have a Strat where you stick the whammy bar up your ass and the tone controls control the vibration pattern and the volume knob controls the intensity.

I had one as well, yet my ex-wife insisted on getting it as part of our divorce settlement. http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-ashamed-smileys-721.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/)

GAR
03-18-2009, 05:44 PM
HA! You gave up your guitar in a divorce?

Now you all know why I keep my gear in storage..

http://www.inkednation.com/images/user_albums/78/86/originalcyndi/2006235115018.jpg

This is you for giving your guitar to a bitch. Everyone knows it now!

chefcraig
03-18-2009, 06:29 PM
This is you for giving your guitar to a bitch. Everyone knows it now!

Yep, pretty much like you've just proven to everyone that you are far too thick to recognize a joke. Nicely done. http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-happy-smileys-336.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/Free-Sexy-Adult-Smileys/)

Terry
03-18-2009, 10:33 PM
Well, shit, if Hendrix had a locking tremolo system, he would have had less problems staying in tune live...but seeing as how that hadn't even been invented when Hendrix was still alive, what the fuck does Eddie expect? Let Ed grab a Strat off the rack, jack off the whammy bar for an hour and see if HE is still in tune.

In terms of rock guitar playing, to me, much of what came before Hendrix was in black and white, and Hendrix propelled it into technicolor.

Even when I listen to Hendrix today, I am still floored by the excellence and inventive nature of his stuff, both live and in the studio. Not just a case of the context re: when it was done, either. "Oh, Hendrix was good, considering it was the late 1960s / early 1970s..." Bullshit. His stuff is timeless.

Hendrix also wrote the bulk of his lyrics and sang his own tunes. We all sadly remember what happened when Ed gave THAT a shot (How Many Say I? Just once, thank fucking god!).

Hendrix also was the most visible person to use things like the fuzz tone, the octave divider, the wah-wah pedal, feedback, intense tremolo bar work, phase shifters and couple them with high-speed blazing blues rock runs. No, Hendrix wasn't the first to use those things, but then Eddie wasn't the first person to use two-handed tapping, either.

Hendrix was a great all-around musician: great ear for record production, incredible showman, superb tunesmith, compelling lyricist.

Ed was an exceptional and innovative player. Incredible with an axe in his hands. Far as writing lyrics, Ed can't come up with any worth a damn, and Ed has shit in his ears when it comes to producing and engineering his own music (no coincidence that his best sounding stuff was done with Ted behind the mixing board and his worst sounding stuff was done when Ed was running the show).

Easiest thing for Eddie to have said when hearing the Hendrix comparison would have been something along the lines of "Hey, thanks. That's an honor to be compared to a musician as great as him." By trying to qualify his response, he just comes across like an ass.

hideyoursheep
03-19-2009, 06:33 AM
Hendrix probably would have a recording company if he would have lived.

Ed can't get signed right now.

hideyoursheep
03-19-2009, 06:37 AM
There's been a helluva lot of good stuff come out of Electric Lady Studios..

Can't say that about 5150, can you?;)

hideyoursheep
03-19-2009, 06:42 AM
What do you mean ??



http://robinlull.com/Db_antns.jpg


:elvis:

It looked like somebody wanted some moolah...my bad...

hideyoursheep
03-19-2009, 06:45 AM
I have a Strat where you stick the whammy bar up your ass and the tone controls control the vibration pattern and the volume knob controls the intensity.

I think Melissa Etheridge has that same guitar..
:D

Nitro Express
03-19-2009, 11:46 PM
I think Melissa Etheridge has that same guitar..
:D

I stole it from her.

darkknight
03-19-2009, 11:55 PM
I realised that last night when I saw a clip from the same show with a song from Electric Lady Land...


But thanks for pointing that out...

I should have at least caught the guitar differences...

I have almost 15 Strats...


:elvis:

Cool, do you have any pictures up here of your guitars? I love Strats but I build my own model too.

ELVIS
03-20-2009, 03:15 AM
Cool, do you have any pictures up here of your guitars? I love Strats but I build my own model too.

I will have in a few days...

I'm working on it...


:elvis:

SweetSecrets
03-20-2009, 08:29 AM
I don't get the comparison between Hendrix and EVH...apples and oranges in my opinion. The two are so different. Nobody can deny that they are both pioneers of their time, but very different ones! One thing they both have in common is that they have each successfully tapped into that magical river of great music thing that we are all so lucky if we get the chance to experience as musicians. I could understand why EVH would get sick of people comparing him to Hendrix, because Hendrix is that sterotypical "genious guitarist" that every Joe Blow thinks of when they think of great guitarists, but I do think saying Hendrix didn't create is a bit stupid. I don't get that?? That's a bit of the arrogant Eddie if you ask me. :)

Seshmeister
03-20-2009, 11:17 AM
I have a Strat where you stick the whammy bar up your ass and the tone controls control the vibration pattern and the volume knob controls the intensity.

After reading your post I thought I bet some lunatic has done something like that.

The world is indeed a fucking crazy place... :D

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Playing Guitar Makes Lightsaber Thing Vibrate - Geekologie (http://www.geekologie.com/2007/12/guitar_powers_wand_looking_thi.php)

Take a guitar, plug in a VOX AmPlug, and then attach an OhMiBod vibrator to that and what do you get? A vibrator that responds to what you play on the guitar! Cool. The Vox AmPlug is really just a little amp you can plug headphones into, it's the OhMiBod vibrator that makes all the magic happen (it will also plug into the headphone jack of an MP3 player, etc. and respond to that music as well). Talk about becoming a true Guitar Hero. Yeah buddy. Hook it all up, start jamming out on some Stairway To Heaven, and soon you're lucky lady will be in heaven. Or she'll break up with you and start dating a Stratocaster, which is what happened to me. Stupid vibrator-guitar combo, I hate you.

Don Corleone
03-20-2009, 02:18 PM
I wonder how many people Ed has around actually telling him that this is right.

They guys believing his own hype now

Nitro Express
03-20-2009, 04:47 PM
After reading your post I thought I bet some lunatic has done something like that.

The world is indeed a fucking crazy place... :D

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Playing Guitar Makes Lightsaber Thing Vibrate - Geekologie (http://www.geekologie.com/2007/12/guitar_powers_wand_looking_thi.php)

Take a guitar, plug in a VOX AmPlug, and then attach an OhMiBod vibrator to that and what do you get? A vibrator that responds to what you play on the guitar! Cool. The Vox AmPlug is really just a little amp you can plug headphones into, it's the OhMiBod vibrator that makes all the magic happen (it will also plug into the headphone jack of an MP3 player, etc. and respond to that music as well). Talk about becoming a true Guitar Hero. Yeah buddy. Hook it all up, start jamming out on some Stairway To Heaven, and soon you're lucky lady will be in heaven. Or she'll break up with you and start dating a Stratocaster, which is what happened to me. Stupid vibrator-guitar combo, I hate you.

Cool. A stereo guitar. Plug it into two vaginas and they climax in stereo. I wonder if there is a boost switch as well.

Nitro Express
03-20-2009, 04:53 PM
You know Hendrix would have dug it though. The way he played, he would really have them cumming and moaning. LOL!

indeedido
03-20-2009, 09:50 PM
I love Jimi and Edward both. Two main influences on my picking up the guitar. I won't say one is better than the other. I will say Jimi had feeling and emotion when he played. Ed had testosterone when he played. When Ed tried for feeling and emotion, VH III came out.

78/84 guy
03-21-2009, 09:29 PM
Ed was more original than Jimi as a player but Hendrix did it all !!! His lyric's are incredible to me. It's a shame they get overlooked for the most part. Ed said year's ago he didn't get into Jimi because he couldn't play any of it !! That's fine I guess, Ed ripped off guy's like Uli Jon Roth and was a huge Tommy Bolin fan !! He never admit's it though !!! Hendrix will alway's be more important in the overall guitar rank's I think because he did so much in such little time !! They are both incredible player's. I'f I had to chose I'd take Hendrix without a doubt !! They both took guitar playing to a new level !!! Ed has a way of slamming people without meaning it right ??. I think the bullshit about always slamming Hendrix and his out of tune guitar's is getting old !! Anytime someone talks to Ed about Hendrix he bring's it up. Hey Ed, watch the clip on You Tube of someone that look's alot like you sounding like shit playing Jump !!! Must be someone else right ??

darkknight
03-22-2009, 11:52 AM
Ed was more original than Jimi as a player but Hendrix did it all !!! His lyric's are incredible to me. It's a shame they get overlooked for the most part. Ed said year's ago he didn't get into Jimi because he couldn't play any of it !! That's fine I guess, Ed ripped off guy's like Uli Jon Roth and was a huge Tommy Bolin fan !! He never admit's it though !!! Hendrix will alway's be more important in the overall guitar rank's I think because he did so much in such little time !! They are both incredible player's. I'f I had to chose I'd take Hendrix without a doubt !! They both took guitar playing to a new level !!! Ed has a way of slamming people without meaning it right ??. I think the bullshit about always slamming Hendrix and his out of tune guitar's is getting old !! Anytime someone talks to Ed about Hendrix he bring's it up. Hey Ed, watch the clip on You Tube of someone that look's alot like you sounding like shit playing Jump !!! Must be someone else right ??

To be fair to Ed, someone handed him the wrong guitar that was tuned down instead of standard. I have some live stuff of Jimi and at times it sounds like something Ed would be doing. I'm not buying that Ed wasn't influenced by Jimi. He doesn't like to admit it because he wants people to think he came up with all those tricks on his own. He didn't think of those divebombs by himself.
A guy that played like him back in the day wasn't getting it all from Clapton. Give me a break.

Terry
03-22-2009, 05:15 PM
To be fair to Ed, someone handed him the wrong guitar that was tuned down instead of standard. I have some live stuff of Jimi and at times it sounds like something Ed would be doing. I'm not buying that Ed wasn't influenced by Jimi. He doesn't like to admit it because he wants people to think he came up with all those tricks on his own. He didn't think of those divebombs by himself.
A guy that played like him back in the day wasn't getting it all from Clapton. Give me a break.

I can hear Blackmore, Beck, Hendrix and Page influences in Ed's playing way more than Eric Clapton.

What comes out of Ed's mouth is usually a bunch of drunken bullshit.

ELVIS
03-31-2009, 09:52 PM
At least Yngwie has nothing but good things to say about Hendrix...

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:elvis:

conmee
03-31-2009, 10:04 PM
Yeah, everyone except for Edward, Yngwie. (regarding his final comment that he/people can't say enough good things about Jimi).

THat is all.

Icon.

Diamondjimi
04-03-2009, 01:23 AM
Yngwie's picking technique is mindblowing.

ELVIS
04-03-2009, 01:32 AM
Yeah...He doesn't pick like a machine like Michael Angelo Batio or even Paul Gilbert...

Yngwie sounds much more natural...


:elvis:

Panamark
04-03-2009, 01:53 AM
I always feel like I should be on acid when
I listen to these Hendrix clips !:happy45:

ELVIS
04-03-2009, 03:08 AM
No, it's more like this...:confused13:

Panamark
04-03-2009, 03:26 AM
Yeah, and I dance like this at the same time :troll:

ELVIS
04-03-2009, 03:52 AM
:jammin::troll::band:


:elvis:

Panamark
04-03-2009, 04:01 AM
:jumping0041::rockin::mad0233:

Panamark
04-03-2009, 04:02 AM
I think I'm over my head going into a smilie war with Elvis !! :)

Terry
04-03-2009, 07:43 PM
Yngwie's picking technique is mindblowing.


He really does have such incredible coordination between his picking and fretting hands.

Like, stuff I MIGHT be able to do legato, he can do even faster, picking every note clearly.

Diamondjimi
04-04-2009, 03:56 AM
He really does have such incredible coordination between his picking and fretting hands.

Like, stuff I MIGHT be able to do legato, he can do even faster, picking every note clearly.

It's sickening isn't it!?:D

Hardrock69
04-13-2009, 11:30 AM
My wife grew up just up the road from where Jimi Hendrix is buried in Renton, Washinton. In fact, my brother in law worked for that cemetery and he told me he could take me to Jimi's grave. This was before the new fancy memorial was built and Jimi just had a small, flat tombstone with a Strat on it. It was rainy and wet and all the grass was off jimi's grave due to all the people visiting it.

What was cool is he took me to see the collection of stuff people left on the grave that the cemetery kept. It was wild. He said sometimes they would catch people having sex on the grave which is creepy.


Looks like they did some paving. If you look just to the right of where it says Greenwood Memorial Park, where the car is parked, you can see what looks like a sidewalk coming towards the camera.

That used to not be paved, but you could easily see the path worn in the grass to where Jimi was buried. He was buried right where it looks like a square of concrete at the end of the now-paved 'path' (at the very bottom edge of the photo).
http://i41.tinypic.com/28s1oyc.jpg

I did not get to visit Jimi until 2006, after the new monument was created and they covered Jimi up with tons of granite and marble.

I am going to visit him again in a little over a month when I go up there again for vacation.

Hardrock69
04-13-2009, 11:34 AM
As for the rest of the stuff in this thread, I do not think spEd meant to slag Jimi.

I have many, many Hendrix boots (both audio and DVD).

The one solo Jimi did that spEd could NEVER dream of wishing he could think about doing, does not require technique. It just requires you to be a direct channel from God.

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Terry
04-13-2009, 11:41 AM
It's sickening isn't it!?:D

Depending on my mood, when I hear Malmsteen, I either:

a) get inspired to practice a bit harder (considering I've been fucking around with the instrument off and on since 1982, I should be much better than I am)

or

b) just don't ever want to even bother playing again...he's that fucking good.

Diamondjimi
04-13-2009, 12:11 PM
Depending on my mood, when I hear Malmsteen, I either:

a) get inspired to practice a bit harder (considering I've been fucking around with the instrument off and on since 1982, I should be much better than I am)

or

b) just don't ever want to even bother playing again...he's that fucking good.

Same here. Now if he would work on the songwriting end of things, he'd be the full package...

sadaist
04-13-2009, 01:40 PM
Same here. Now if he would work on the songwriting end of things, he'd be the full package...

Yeah, I trip out when I see these guys that have instructional videos & such and are just absolutely fucking amazing....yet they couldn't write a decent rhythm riff to save their lives, and therefore can't write a decent song. Sometimes three simple bar chords is enough to sound great.


Iron Man & Smoke On The Water would be two great examples. Two of the most simple songs, every guitarist learns these right away. Yet they are great tunes that will be around forever.

ELVIS
04-14-2009, 08:14 PM
It just requires you to be a direct channel from God.



That's bullshit...

FORD
04-14-2009, 08:37 PM
That's bullshit...

Not according to Phil Keaggy, who wrote a song called "Play Thru Me" about exactly that - his music literally coming from God.

Up late again tonight,
I feel a song coming on too,
I might write one for you.
But where did I find these chords,
I've never heard them before,
Don't stop until you're through.

I've been listening to the radio
And when I do there's something I listen for,
A grain of truth that makes me long
For more of You.

Maker of all melody fill my heart with song,
Play how you feel, oh play thru me.
Healing can come through the song
Your own hands upon,
This is for real, no fantasy.

ELVIS
04-14-2009, 09:03 PM
Who gives a shit what he said...

Red Devil

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New song from Yngwie and Ripper Owens...

Yngwie breaks a sting during the solo but recovers amazingly...

A Strat with a broken string is murder...

:elvis:

ELVIS
04-14-2009, 09:16 PM
Ed and Yngwie

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:elvis:

Jesus Christ
04-14-2009, 09:30 PM
Who gives a shit what he said...



Gregory, do ye not believe talent is given unto men from Me and My Dad?

Terry
04-14-2009, 09:58 PM
Same here. Now if he would work on the songwriting end of things, he'd be the full package...

If there is one weakness with him, that is it...am not bagging on the guy at all, but to me his songs are oftentimes a vehicle for his incredible guitar playing, rather than the other way around.

Anguish and Fear was a pretty kickin' tune, though.

ELVIS
04-14-2009, 10:17 PM
Anguish and Fear was a pretty kickin' tune, though.

Good call!

Everything on Marching Out is great...


:elvis:

ELVIS
04-14-2009, 10:19 PM
Gregory, do ye not believe talent is given unto men from Me and My Dad?

Of course, dumbass...

But Hendrix was not a direct channel from God...

FORD
04-14-2009, 10:26 PM
You called Jesus a dumbass?

Geez, you think you work long hours now, wait until your a nurse in HELL!

ELVIS
04-14-2009, 10:31 PM
No, I called you a dumbass...

Now get back to your commune!


:elvis:

Diamondjimi
04-15-2009, 12:23 AM
If there is one weakness with him, that is it...am not bagging on the guy at all, but to me his songs are oftentimes a vehicle for his incredible guitar playing, rather than the other way around.

Anguish and Fear was a pretty kickin' tune, though.

To me ,he pretty much blew his wad by '86 , with Trilogy being the last one that I can still stomach.
The album with Joe Lynn Turner was a decent attempt at writing music that was a bit more emphasis on the song. I give him credit for trying.

Now if Yngwie was any less of the monster shredder he is, his blatant Blackmore image and stage schtick (some of it)would be almost laughable .(imo)...

Go Ritchie!
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Alcatrazz-Evil Eye '84
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Yngwie - "Fire" '86- Marc Boals on vox. (Killer pipes).
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Hardrock69
04-15-2009, 03:31 PM
Firstly, there are numerous shredders out there who have no soul whatsoever.

Yngwie at least has feeling in his playing.

Hendrix had SOUL. That is what I meant be "direct channel from God". He could play a single note, and it would mean more than the entire output of other guitarists.

That is why I posted Machine Gun. The solo he played in that tune is one of the greatest solos of all time.

And he did not have to shred.

He was not running around going berserk.

He was just standing almost perfectly still.

Playing his fucking ass off!!!

I think Yngwie did the right thing by getting Tim Owens. I saw them last October.

Fucking incredible. I say Tim is the best singer Yngwie ever had, even if it was just for a single album and tour.

WACF
04-15-2009, 05:34 PM
Who gives a shit what he said...

Red Devil

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New song from Yngwie and Ripper Owens...

Yngwie breaks a sting during the solo but recovers amazingly...

A Strat with a broken string is murder...

:elvis:


Good stuff...

Terry
04-15-2009, 08:57 PM
Good call!

Everything on Marching Out is great...


:elvis:


A totally excellent album from start-to-finish, agreed.

Terry
04-15-2009, 09:03 PM
As for the rest of the stuff in this thread, I do not think spEd meant to slag Jimi.

I have many, many Hendrix boots (both audio and DVD).

The one solo Jimi did that spEd could NEVER dream of wishing he could think about doing, does not require technique. It just requires you to be a direct channel from God.

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I can't even think of that solo from that performance in terms of technique...it's just raw emotion...it's indicative of the best players...when they play that well, to me it's as if...like, Hendrix is basically speaking via his guitar...that solo talks to me, as opposed to a guy standing up there laying down a bunch of flashy speed.

At his best, Ed taps into that feeling for me...so does Yngwie [even if he "talks" almost too fast for me to comprehend at times;) ].

That's one aspect where the onslaught of the 1980s speed technicians left me cold; so few of those solos actually SANG, ya know?

sonrisa salvaje
04-15-2009, 11:17 PM
A totally excellent album from start-to-finish, agreed.

I never understood why Minneapolis never adopted "I am a Viking." Oh yeah, maybe its the "i am a slayer and you will taste my steel" reference.

ELVIS
04-16-2009, 11:54 PM
I always said that if Yngwie cut his millions of albums down to about 6 or 7 containing only his best stuff, he would be regarded much more highly...

But he released everything he ever recorded. Too much information, even for an Yngwie freak like myself...

I think Jeff Scott Soto was his best singer, but Ripper is damn good and brings a new edge and youthfulness to the music...


:elvis:

ELVIS
04-17-2009, 12:10 AM
Here's a good Yngwie song dedicated to Panamark...

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:elvis:

hideyoursheep
04-19-2009, 03:04 AM
Sorry, but there's nothing about Mamsteen that ever struck me that he was a Rock n Roll guitar player....sounded more like a guitar teacher...

Bored the hell out of me.

yah
05-05-2009, 01:36 AM
Thanks for the Hendix vids...they're great!
On another note, Ed's "Horrible Solo Spot" in 2007 was absolutely horrible the few first min of the solo.
It sounded like he was grating chicken wire across the pickups instead of playing notes....but they were notes, unfortunately....really bad, and bizarrely patterned ones too.....yechhhhh

flappo
05-05-2009, 05:18 AM
as for masters of the strat

i'm sure cato would vote for mr jeff beck

i sure would

YouTube - Jeff Beck - Goodbye Pork Pie Hat / Brush With the Blues (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ej3BdMpgZw)

FORD
05-05-2009, 11:00 AM
Speaking of Jeff Beck, apparently he recently played a gig in LA and was joined on stage by a surprise guest. Meaning that Jeff himself apparently had no idea it was going to happen (or else he's really good at faking his reaction)

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Terry
05-05-2009, 09:21 PM
Thanks for the Hendix vids...they're great!
On another note, Ed's "Horrible Solo Spot" in 2007 was absolutely horrible the few first min of the solo.
It sounded like he was grating chicken wire across the pickups instead of playing notes....but they were notes, unfortunately....really bad, and bizarrely patterned ones too.....yechhhhh

Show I saw him at last year, he's taking his solo spot, wanking around, then starts to play the tapped part of Eruption. The crowd begins to cheer, then starts to quiet down when it becomes apparent that he can't play it at full-speed...it honestly looked like he just wasn't able to play the lick at the same speed it was on the record anymore...like, he had to gradually work up to maybe 2/3rds to 3/4ths speed, but couldn't get up to par...it was kinda sad.

Terry
05-05-2009, 09:23 PM
I always said that if Yngwie cut his millions of albums down to about 6 or 7 containing only his best stuff, he would be regarded much more highly...

But he released everything he ever recorded. Too much information, even for an Yngwie freak like myself...

I think Jeff Scott Soto was his best singer, but Ripper is damn good and brings a new edge and youthfulness to the music...


:elvis:

Jeff Scott Soto wailed like a banshee on fire on Marching Out...great, great vocals.

Diamondjimi
05-05-2009, 10:09 PM
Show I saw him at last year, he's taking his solo spot, wanking around, then starts to play the tapped part of Eruption. The crowd begins to cheer, then starts to quiet down when it becomes apparent that he can't play it at full-speed...it honestly looked like he just wasn't able to play the lick at the same speed it was on the record anymore...like, he had to gradually work up to maybe 2/3rds to 3/4ths speed, but couldn't get up to par...it was kinda sad.

He wasn't too bad @ the Toronto shows I witnessed. But I remember feeling disappointed overall with his spotlight solo in the shows. What a fuckin shame to have witnessed him in his prime ,burnin it up and then to see him struggle and unable to burn anymore.

He's in desperate need of someone to shoot him straight and pull no punches regarding his level of fail. He is in need of some oldschool hardcore woodshedding. The kind that brought him greatness back in the beginning...

Hey ,Paul Newman was whoring salad dressing. BUT, he could still "act" like the legend he was.

bueno bob
05-06-2009, 12:53 AM
I always said that if Yngwie cut his millions of albums down to about 6 or 7 containing only his best stuff, he would be regarded much more highly...

But he released everything he ever recorded. Too much information, even for an Yngwie freak like myself...

I think Jeff Scott Soto was his best singer, but Ripper is damn good and brings a new edge and youthfulness to the music...

:elvis:

The problem with Ripper, and Perpetual Flame in general, is that his vocals are buried under a mix of mud. He's totally lost in the background. Yngwie's guitar tone, he's tweaked it to a point where I can barely even listen to it.

You know, I can solve all of Yngwie Malmsteen's problems right now.

1) He needs contemporaries in that band of his. An ever-revolving door of kids leaves him plenty of room for control, sure, but too much control is, at least in his case, a bad thing. Contemporaries may be able to improve on his ideas or at least offer feedback that's valuable, even if their skill isn't on par with his; having yes-men happy for a paying gig just enables constant answers of "Yes" without a yes being what's necessarily right for the element. Personally I think the best thing he could do would be to hook up with Soto and the Johansson brothers again and make a REAL Rising Force album. And it should be as permanent as he can make it.

2) He needs a semi-decent label that'll at least take a remote interest in him. Koch is distributing, but beyond that I doubt they have any direct interest in what he does, as evidenced by the spectacularly lackluster Perpetual Flame. Frankly, ever since Alchemy, his albums have been 75% filler...Perpetual Flame was, to my ears, about 95% filler. Only two songs on that album sound like they were even bothered with beyond a two hour cram session to write. Essentially, he needs quality control from his label.

3) He needs a real producer. Ever since Alchemy, his vocalists (Mark Boals, Doogie White and now Ripper Owens) have all been buried under a muddy mix of music and virtually impossible to discern from the mix. Oh, sure, you can hear them singing, but fuck, shouldn't the vocalist be at the FOREFRONT of the band for the final mix? Christ, the bass sounds better than Ripper's mix.

4) He needs to surround himself with people who can give him some honest opinions, which means his professional/personal business manager/wife/quality control expert April needs to just be a wife and forget about the rest of it for a while. I mean, seriously...shit, just look at the cover art for Perpetual Flame...and Unleash the Fury...and Attack!!...fucking atrocious and Perpetual Flame SCREAMS gay '80's shit and not in a good way, either...frankly, that cover art, the airbrushing, it's all so fucking low budget I literally made my own cover for it and it looks FAR more professional. Somebody just needs to stop him or say "Man, this is just IDIOTIC...try something like this, seriously..."

5) His instrumentals NEED TO BE ACTUALLY COMPOSED, NOT IMPROVISED. I can't stress that enough. Look at his classics - Black Star, Far Beyond the Sun, Evil Eye, Icarus Dream Suite, Marching Out, Crying, Trilogy Suite, Krakatau, Memories, Eclipse...all composed. And all EASILY MEMORABLE, very fine pieces of music. At some point, I think post 1998, he just quit actually WRITING instrumentals and just started noodling in the studio and called it a song. Doesn't work that way; each and every single instrumental I've heard from Yngwie since at least Facing the Animal I cannot recall from memory.

6) He needs to tour the U.S., but it needs to be a package tour. Most everybody here stateside has forgotten he ever existed. The G3 thing with Satch and Vai was cool, and he could have followed it up with some serious package touring (which is just economically smart in this day and age), but he's passed on that in favor of touring outside of the U.S., taking the easy money and easily headlining. But frankly, it's been true before and it's true now...if you're not big in the U.S., you're not big period. And to do a successful U.S. tour, he's going to have to tour with some other big names, not just have nobodies play six crappy songs to give him more time in the spotlight. The economy sucks - people want a quality bill. Give them one.

7) His live shows really need to be quality controlled. When you stop to consider he's definitely going to play not only extended versions of Black Star, Far Beyond the Sun and Trilogy, but take not just one but TWO guitar solos on top of that, you're only hearing maybe six or seven actual SONGS and the rest of it is just watching him blaze up the fretboard. And while that's cool for what it is, Yngwie has far too extensive a catalog with far too many good songs to be ignored. 10-11 actual SONGS, encore with Black Star, Far Beyond the Sun, his guitar solo and then whatever SONG he wants to end the show on and call it good, you know? Give the people an actual BAND to listen to, not just HIM.

Were those things to happen, I bet his fortunes would be much improved. Unfortunately, they won't, because let's face it - NOBODY tells Yngwie Fucking Malmsteen what to do!

;)

yah
05-06-2009, 09:35 AM
Show I saw him at last year, he's taking his solo spot, wanking around, then starts to play the tapped part of Eruption. The crowd begins to cheer, then starts to quiet down when it becomes apparent that he can't play it at full-speed...it honestly looked like he just wasn't able to play the lick at the same speed it was on the record anymore...like, he had to gradually work up to maybe 2/3rds to 3/4ths speed, but couldn't get up to par...it was kinda sad.

I didn't mind say, the last 3/4 of the solo, though I know that Ed is not nearly up to par on it....it's a long way away from his playing even in the 90's.
The first few min are really bad though....bizzare, drunken, crack/meth moments of remembered bad-trips , I guess.

TongueNGroove
05-09-2009, 03:48 PM
I can hear hendrix and I can out play anyone I know personally, so i've been told...

A few members on this board have heard me play a few things...


:elvis:

You should join up at GuitarWar.com, I would love to hear some of your stuff :)

TongueNGroove
05-09-2009, 04:04 PM
Sorry, but there's nothing about Mamsteen that ever struck me that he was a Rock n Roll guitar player....sounded more like a guitar teacher...

Bored the hell out of me.

If this bores the hell out of you, you must be deaf... MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8X564WDQ) Just a little sample of Yngwie's finest work.

BITEYOASS
05-09-2009, 06:05 PM
What Ed doesn't realize, and what Bill Hicks once said is that wasn't a guitar that Jimi was playing, it was his dick. Added to that, Jimi didn't have to be drunk to play, but he would have a drunk sing for him.

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ELVIS
05-09-2009, 09:36 PM
NOBODY tells Yngwie Fucking Malmsteen what to do!

;)

I just typed one of my longest posts ever and somehow WINDOWS FUCKING VISTA closed IE on me!

And then I almost deleted your excellent post by accident trying to quote you. I did that to someone else by mistake and they cried to Sarge. The new vBulletin design makes it too easy to do that by accident if you have moderator control...

ANYWAY!

I totally agree with everything you had to say and it was a good read. In addition, I always maintained that if Yngwie had a real producer or someone in control, his millions of albums and songs (some of which are virtually the same) would be reduced to maybe ten GREAT albums and he would have the recognition he maybe deserves. But he did it to himself...

As far as vocalists, he needs Jeff Scott Soto. They fit together like Dave and Edward, and he almost got him back before Dougie White came into the fold. I didn't even know Yngwie cared much for Soto until I stumbled on a YouTube interview and Yngwie had good things to say about him. He also said "poor Dougie White" couldn't sing very well, but he tried and Yngwie liked him personally. White was terrible when I saw him live. His high notes made me sick and he looked like a bigger idiot that the fat Yngwie busting out of his leather pants, not to mention dropping his guitar trying to play behind his back...:lmao:

Mark Boals was good. I didn't like him at first, mainly because I was pissed that Soto was gone but when I hear Trilogy now it's far better than I thought at the time. But the songs on Trilogy are memorable. I can recall them from memory without hearing them for years...

But Yngwie's songwriting absolutely needs some collaboration for so many reasons. He's a great songwriter, but he needs somebody to work with, to inspire him to think along different lines at least sometimes...and to say, hey Yngwie, this song is Yngay...something like that...:D

If he would have actually worked with Ripper and given him some freedom instead of being a hired gun the results could have only been better. Some YouTube clips show Owens making some of Malmsteen's songs much more energetic and heavy. But I think Ripper (Tim) Owens is already out of the band and working on his own stuff...

Have you ever heard War to End All Wars ?? That album is a bit different with some actually composed songs, and there is some cool, way-out sounding atonal stuff and other ideas that catch you off guard. But still, I can't recall the songs without hearing them. And Facing the Animal has a few neat ideas on it as well, but like you said, since that point, it's nearly impossible to recall anything he's done...

I still think Yngwie is the greatest and most exciting rock guitar player i've ever heard, and only one of three (following Hendrix and Edward) that re-wrote the book on rock guitar...

Yngwie paved the way for people like Paul Gilbert, Marty Friedman and Jason Becker. Tony McAlpine comes to mind as well...

But i'd love to see him back with Soto and the Johansson brothers and make a real album. I dont even have Perpetual Flame. I was excited about it and let down when I heard a few clips...

Check this out...

I guess the vocals are Jorn Lande, but watch Yngwie bust his ass at 0:49 seconds...:biggrin:

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:elvis:

ELVIS
05-09-2009, 09:44 PM
The drummer in that clip looks like he just stepped of a Beach Boys or Jimmy Buffet gig...:D

Good guitar playing after Yngwie finally gets a guitar after falling...


:lmao::elvis:

FORD
05-09-2009, 11:51 PM
I just typed one of my longest posts ever and somehow WINDOWS FUCKING VISTA closed IE on me!



Well, there's your first two mistakes......... :argh:

ELVIS
05-10-2009, 12:07 AM
I know...

I'm about reformat or upgrade this new computer to XP. None of my recording equipment works with Vista even though they all have updated vista drivers on their websites. This computer was too good of a price to pass up and i knew I didn't want vista, but I didn't know it would be THIS BAD!

Have you seen this ??

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:biggrin:

ELVIS
05-10-2009, 12:23 AM
Usually when I go on about Yngwie, someone mentions Uli Jon Roth, so check out this clip...

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What the hell happened to Uli ??

It's like he has Eddie Van Halen syndrome...he can barely play in that clip!

And whats up with his vocals ??

I never was a big fan of Uli, but he could play, although the Yngwie comparisons are thin in my opinion. I think Uli copied a bit of Yngwie in the late 80's instead of the myth of it being the other way around. But Uli was great in the 70's and Yngwie does cite him as an influence along with Alex Lifeson, Steve Hackett, Brian may and Blackmore. Yngwie also liked Edward, and in the 80's he tried to contact Edward to jam and Ed wouldn't do it...


:elvis:

jhale667
05-10-2009, 01:18 AM
Speaking of Jeff Beck, apparently he recently played a gig in LA and was joined on stage by a surprise guest. Meaning that Jeff himself apparently had no idea it was going to happen (or else he's really good at faking his reaction)

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More reasons to kick myself for missing this show...:pullinghair:

ELVIS
05-10-2009, 02:07 AM
Like Jeff Beck didn't know Rod was gonna walk out...

He just happened to be playing that song as well...

Yeah right...


:elvis:

ThrillsNSpills
05-18-2009, 01:21 PM
And whats up with his vocals ??

I never was a big fan of Uli, but he could play, although the Yngwie comparisons are thin in my opinion. I think Uli copied a bit of Yngwie in the late 80's instead of the myth of it being the other way around.
:elvis:

Sails of Charon from Scorpions had to be one Yngwie got into from Uli .

It's got the same kind of scales, and Yng covered it on Inspiration.

Such an amazing guitar track !

binnie
05-18-2009, 01:54 PM
This is the best thread we've had for ages.....

This is why this place rules - as a none guitar player, I learned so much from reading through here...

ELVIS
05-18-2009, 03:37 PM
Sails of Charon from Scorpions had to be one Yngwie got into from Uli .

I agree, and Yngwie does cite Uli as an influence...

It's got the same kind of scales, and Yng covered it on Inspiration.

True, but Yngwie set it on fire...

Such an amazing guitar track !

Uli

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Yngwie

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I read somewhere that Uli liked Yngwie's version a lot...

Testament

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:elvis:

ELVIS
05-18-2009, 03:53 PM
At 309 Yngwie does a beautiful line in the middle of that killer solo...


:elvis:

ELVIS
05-18-2009, 03:55 PM
You can't type 3:09...:mad2:

ELVIS
05-18-2009, 03:56 PM
Maybe like this: 3: 09

ELVIS
05-18-2009, 03:57 PM
Anyway, check it out...


:elvis:

Terry
05-19-2009, 09:39 PM
He is fucking brilliant.

Elvis is right; Yngwie should reunite the Marching Out lineup. I do agree with Elvis that Soto seemed to fit with Yngwie the best out of all the singers he's worked with.

hideyoursheep
05-26-2009, 04:07 AM
It's all about expressing one's self
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hideyoursheep
05-26-2009, 04:12 AM
BTW, ELVIS...

I'm thinking about getting a 7 string..

I got it, and I'm comin' for you, ELVIS.


Do you hear me? I'M COMIN FOR YA!!:biggrin:


As soon as I get rid of the carpeltunnel from that goddamned neck!

Fuck!:pullinghair:

It's gonna take some getting used to.

Diamondjimi
06-09-2010, 06:24 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/Federaljim/Randy-bump.gif

Seshmeister
06-09-2010, 06:31 PM
I thought that had been posted before.

Some sort of merge would be in order...

GreenBayLA
06-09-2010, 06:49 PM
I thought Eddie was going to say something like "Am I the only one to notice the quality of new material from Jimi Hendrix is severely lacking since his death?"

Or maybe "If he's such a pioneer where is the Jimi Hendrix brand of shoes, huh!?"

But no, it's the misguided "I create, Hendrix just used effects and stuff" take. :rolleyes:

Diamondjimi
06-09-2010, 07:28 PM
I thought that had been posted before.

Some sort of merge would be in order...

Fuck the merge. Delete the other one that was duped via copy and paste from this one by some dicksuckin noob...

78/84 guy
06-09-2010, 08:06 PM
Ed's a asshole !!! ..............PERIOD. I have a couple stories about Ed from my buddy but he might put them in a book. Only a couple of them are nice. Always liked Dave. Said he was great !!! One involved Tommy Bolin's brother and another good one involved Schenker from the Scorpions buying a guitar. I always want to share them but I try too keep that shit he has told me over the years private. Hendrix was the best and still is. Ed couldn't play a blues lick to save his life !!! Ed used plenty of effect's !!! What the fuck is he talking about. Hair lip Eddie !! Fuck off. The guy should take a complament and leave it at that. It's like he always has to defend himself !! Ripped Nugent, Page and Perry back in the day also. The only thing he had to say about Rhoads was at least he was honest about ripping me off !! Not I think Randy did something new with my style of playing !!!! Dave RUN !!!

Hardrock69
06-09-2010, 10:15 PM
BEWARE!

THIS THREAD CONTAINS MALWARE!

Firefox just told me so......

http://i48.tinypic.com/33nueeh.jpg

Diamondjimi
06-09-2010, 11:46 PM
What the fuck?!

Hardrock69
06-10-2010, 01:50 AM
I dunno what the hell the deal is. Just tried to get into this page and it came up. I told the 'warning' to ignore it and continue on, as my machine is very much locked down.

VB actin' all freaky and shit....

Hardrock69
06-10-2010, 01:50 AM
Well, Chrome I think is responsible for the dupe post.

HOWEVER.....I got the warning again.

At work when it happened earlier I was using Firefox. This time I am using Chrome. I followed the link to get detailed info.

It is something at classicvanhalen.com.

MODS? YOU MIGHT WANT TO DELETE WHATEVER IS POSTED IN THIS THREAD THAT LINKS TO THAT SITE.

Or at least check it out.


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What is the current listing status for classicvanhalen.com?
Site is listed as suspicious - visiting this web site may harm your computer.

Part of this site was listed for suspicious activity 1 time(s) over the past 90 days.

What happened when Google visited this site?
Of the 19 pages we tested on the site over the past 90 days, 1 page(s) resulted in malicious software being downloaded and installed without user consent. The last time Google visited this site was on 2010-06-08, and the last time suspicious content was found on this site was on 2010-06-07.
Malicious software is hosted on 1 domain(s), including thermal-spa.ru/.

This site was hosted on 1 network(s) including AS4323 (TWTC).

Has this site acted as an intermediary resulting in further distribution of malware?
Over the past 90 days, classicvanhalen.com did not appear to function as an intermediary for the infection of any sites.

Has this site hosted malware?
No, this site has not hosted malicious software over the past 90 days.

How did this happen?
In some cases, third parties can add malicious code to legitimate sites, which would cause us to show the warning message.

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Diamondjimi
06-10-2010, 01:57 AM
No problems on this end....

Hardrock69
06-10-2010, 02:06 AM
Apparently Google is detecting a problem with something at classicvanhalen.com. Apparently one of the above vids or something else is linked from this page to that site.

IF there is really nothing wrong, that is cool, but better safe than sorry.

fryingdutchman
06-10-2010, 05:13 AM
I thought that had been posted before.

Some sort of merge would be in order...

Fuck any "merge"....

Just ban the "aaabha" motherfucker for consistently performing cut and paste reposts of old threads. He puts a period in front of the thread title so it doesn't get kicked out as a dupe.

BAN HIM and delete his bullshit.

Nitro Express
06-13-2010, 04:46 AM
Here's a cool short clip...

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:elvis:

That's Jack Casady on the bass. I was in one of his bass playing classes at the Fur Peace Ranch. He played with Hendrix and basically told us Jimi was all about the music and took it seriously. Lot's of impromptu jam sessions and one of them made it onto Electric Ladyland with Jack playing bass and not Noel Redding.