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redblkwht

03-21-2009, 02:24 AM

Is he really all that? I think so here's the #'s..
GO BEARS, Get Him! (link below)

All things considered, it will take a considerable offer to land Cutler (http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80f4df92&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true)

Little Texan

03-21-2009, 04:21 AM

No one is going to give up that much for Cutler. He's not worth one first rounder, much less two! A second rounder at best...

Pennypacker

03-21-2009, 07:30 AM

He's been in the league for 3 years, put up decent numbers:

54TD 37INT 86.0QBR in 3 seasons on a team thats .500 in the past 3.

The Potential is there, however what they're currently asking for is ridiculous, and hasn't even had a sniff at the postseason.

We have seen crazier shit though, only a 5th for Randy Moss?

sadaist

03-21-2009, 09:59 AM

I kinda hopes he stays with Denver. Being a Charger fan, we play them twice a year and there is an awesome rivalry right now between Cutler & Rivers. Adds a bit of the unknown to the game since verbal wars have broken out & we're just waiting for some actual blows to be thrown.

Va Beach VH Fan

03-21-2009, 10:13 AM

Football trades have always been a bit wacky....

2 1st's for Cutler is insane, though...

WARF

03-21-2009, 02:16 PM

I think he could end up on the jets.... or the 49ers...

WARF

03-21-2009, 02:19 PM

I think the jets or 49ers will end up with him...

The jets don't even have a pick til the middle of the round...
Now that Farve is officially retired... they should give up their #17 (I think it is)
And a pick in 2010... which would probably be another mid rounder.

Just a thought.

Pennypacker

03-22-2009, 01:29 AM

Minor rumblings about a Romo-for-Cutler deal which I think is a good deal for both teams, considering the dismal seasons both just came off of.

sadaist

03-22-2009, 01:58 AM

Minor rumblings about a Romo-for-Cutler deal which I think is a good deal for both teams, considering the dismal seasons both just came off of.

Really? I can't see the Cowboys trading Romo. Hmmm, would be interesting. Would Cutler get Jessica Simpson in the deal? She's getting kinda fat so her trade value is dropping.

DlocRoth

03-22-2009, 09:50 AM

Why trade a choke artist for a pissy bitch?

TAKIN WHISKEY

03-22-2009, 11:25 AM

Minor rumblings about a Romo-for-Cutler deal which I think is a good deal for both teams, considering the dismal seasons both just came off of.

No way. The Cowboys would get the short end of the stick on that deal.

Nickdfresh

03-22-2009, 12:05 PM

Jay Cutler is making me think of Jeff George...

Pennypacker

03-22-2009, 01:38 PM

Jay Cutler is making me think of Jeff George...

LOL, George and all of those 17 teams he played for.

He said he wanted to make a comeback in '07 for the Vikings where he said he had his "best years of football". Childress literally laughed out loud.

Pennypacker

03-23-2009, 08:21 PM

Apparently McDaniels sent Cutler a text and he didn't respond. This is big news on Profootballtalk.com lol.

More importantly, we now know the opening games of the 2009 NFL season!

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Monday September 14, 2009 7 PM, 10:15 PM EST

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chefcraig

03-23-2009, 08:28 PM

Apparently McDaniels sent Cutler a text and he didn't respond.

Yeah, I saw that as well. Man, the level of bullshit surrounding this story just keeps getting higher and higher. http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-ashamed-smileys-721.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/)

McDaniels sticking by his disgruntled quarterback

2 hours ago

DANA POINT, Calif. (AP) — The Broncos may be listening to offers for disgruntled quarterback Jay Cutler at the NFL owners meetings this week. If coach Josh McDaniels has his way, though, they'll try to work things out to keep Cutler in Denver.

"He's our quarterback. We can't predict the future. He's our quarterback, we want him to be our quarterback, we made that very clear to him and we hope he feels the same way," McDaniels told the NFL Network on Monday, a day before he speaks publicly about the feud for the first time.

McDaniels reiterated that trade talks never reached owner Pat Bowlen's desk, a sign that the issue never got to the serious stage.

"Conversations were had and we've never denied that, but at the same time it's our job to look at every opportunity that we can to see if it's something that could improve our football team, and that's what we were doing," McDaniels said.

Their relationship was strained when McDaniels failed to inform his Pro Bowl quarterback before trying to trade him for Matt Cassel, whom he tutored as New England's offensive coordinator last year. Cutler asked for a trade through his agent after two meetings failed to soothe his hurt feelings.

McDaniels has said he'd rather meet face to face with Cutler again to try to patch their differences before seriously considering dealing the 25-year-old passer who set several franchise records last season.

"I know it's been a very public issue and this is something that I think happens more than people realize. We have a relationship, nobody knows where it stands right now, but it's going to get better," McDaniels said. "It will continue to get better, I believe that. I think it's something that both parties have to work toward a solid resolution. We have a good nucleus of players there that are looking forward to seeing him back at the facility and working with him. It will get to that point at some point in the near future."

Of their strained relationship, McDaniels said: "I absolutely feel that it is not irreparable."

Cutler skipped McDaniels' first team meeting last week and hasn't participated in the team's offseason program, which is voluntary. He has said he'll show up for a mandatory minicamp April 17-19 if he's still a member of the Broncos.

Cutler is halfway through the six-year, $48 million contract he signed as the 11th overall pick out of Vanderbilt in the 2006 draft. He's 17-20 as Broncos starter, although that's misleading because of Denver's dismal defenses. He's 13-1 in games in which Denver held its opponents under 21 points.

McDaniels is scheduled to address the matter with reporters Tuesday.

The Associated Press: McDaniels sticking by his disgruntled quarterback (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iiB4vdBT_j6VsTB1pWbP3EBkuudgD97409DG3)

Pennypacker

03-25-2009, 02:48 PM

Apparently teams that were interested are pissed about Cutler's antics so far, and the list is getting shorter on who might actually want the disgruntled QB. The Jets, Bears and 49ers are still considered to be interested.

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Other NFL news:

-Reports are suggesting that the Patriots are close to signing DE Jason Taylor, and are also working on a deal before the draft for DE Julius Peppers.

-The Jacksonville Jaguars and San Francisco 49ers are redesigning their uniforms, but not their logos. (Expect a more white and red dominant 49ers uniform)

-Chiefs TE Tony Gonzalez has again asked to be dealt even with the addition of QB Matt Cassel. The list of teams interested however is short.

-The Philadelphia Eagles have inquired about Cardinals WR Anquan Boldin. Cardinals are demanding one of the Eagles 1st round picks, the 21st and 28th picks are available.

-Unsure if WR Plaxico Burress will play this upcoming season, and in dire need of a number one receiver, the Giants have inquired about Browns WR Braylon Edwards.

Mr Walker

03-25-2009, 03:02 PM

I read the McDaniels has some concern over Cutler's drinking problems.

ProFootballTalk.com - Eyebrow-Raising Cutler Report Gets Expunged (http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/25/eyebrow-raising-cutler-report-gets-expunged/)

Pennypacker

03-25-2009, 03:45 PM

I'd be a little worried too, the guy's a diabetic

Pennypacker

03-31-2009, 10:37 PM

The “For Sale” sign has been planted in the front yard, and the Broncos will soon be showing potential buyers the partially-finished basement.

According to Charles Robinson and Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports, at least six teams are interested in Cutler.

The Jets, Buccaneers, Bears, Lions, 49ers, and Browns already have been identified. Per Robinson and Cole, the Jaguars have shown interest as well.

As we’ve been saying over and over until people tell us to shut up, any team contemplating using a first-round pick on a quarterback should be interested in Cutler, because unlike an unproven rookie first-rounder Cutler has shown that he can perform at the NFL level.

Meanwhile, chatter persists in league circles regarding the Redskins. We heard several weeks ago that the ‘Skins are indeed interested. As one league source reiterated moments ago, the pursuit of Cutler in 2009 could be driven by the intended pursuit of the man who drafted him in 2010 — former Broncos coach Mike Shanahan.

Mr Walker

04-01-2009, 09:50 AM

LMAO!

If no one takes him, maybe Madonna will adopt him.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/cutleradoption.JPG

TAKIN WHISKEY

04-01-2009, 04:59 PM

I think Cutler is worth a 1st round pick. Maybe a 1st, and a 4th or 5th, but not two 1st rounders. The Broncos would be giving up a proven starting QB for an unknown 1st round pick. They better be damn sure of the QB that they are going to replace him with, or they would be foolish to trade him.

Pennypacker

04-01-2009, 10:12 PM

We’ve been hearing for weeks that the Washington Redskins are interested in Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler.

And now they’re acting on it.

According to Jason LaCanfora of the Washington Post, the Redskins are “actively pursuing a trade” for Cutler.

The Redskins declined comment, which suggests to us that it’s legit.

If they weren’t chasing Cutler, they’d say so. Just like they said so when they didn’t want T.O. And just like they said so when they denied a report of a three-team deal that would have brought Cutler to the Redskins. And just like they did earlier today, when they got out the word that rumor/report of a fairly recent meeting between owner Daniel Snyder and former Broncos coach Mike Shanahan is false.

Pennypacker

04-01-2009, 10:13 PM

So are the Skins already giving up on Campbell?

Will he potentially be going the other way...

Pennypacker

04-01-2009, 11:17 PM

Looks like I nailed it....

Amid reports that the Washington Redskins are actively pursuing a trade for Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler, we’ve caught wind of rumors that the Redskins are trying to trade current starter Jason Campbell.

We need to emphasize that this is a rumor, and we’re currently trying to nail down whether or not it’s an accurate rumor.

Campbell is under contract through 2009. Talk of signing him to a new contract subsided significantly after his strong start to the 2008 season faded into something less than that

atomicpunk5151

04-02-2009, 12:03 AM

One thing that hasn't been brought up is some teams don't want to pay big $$ for a top 10 1st round pick. 2 first round picks seam steep, but there is still a bit of a unkown there, especially if you have a crappy GM and scouts.

I would rather of had the 49ers get in on the Cassel deal.

Cutler seems like a big whiner.

redblkwht

04-02-2009, 02:58 AM

So are the Skins already giving up on Campbell?

Will he potentially be going the other way...
I dont think the broncos are that stupid...I think they would take cleveland
or bears qb over him all day long. read below..

Jets after Jay Cutler as Broncos put quarterback on trading block (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/2009/04/01/2009-04-01_jets_after_jay_cutler_as_broncos_put_qua.html)

Broncos to trade Cutler; Bears should pounce - Full Court Press (http://blogs.suntimes.com/fullcourtpress/2009/03/broncos_to_trade_cutler.html)

ESPN.com: Chicago Bears Message Board (http://boards.espn.go.com/boards/mb/mb?sport=nfl&id=chi&tid=4515914&lid=11)

redblkwht

04-02-2009, 03:00 AM

Shit this is really heating up!!

I'll give this 10 days & he's gone..Cleveland Bears Washington, in that order.

redblkwht

04-02-2009, 11:43 AM

Chicago Bears can get Jay Cutler ... -- chicagotribune.com (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-090401-haugh-cutler-new,0,1904272.column)

why not send brian? trade him now when you can!!

Mr Walker

04-02-2009, 12:44 PM

chefcraig

04-02-2009, 04:20 PM

I'm gonna laugh when the Skins get Cutler and they still wind up going 8-8.
And I'll laugh even harder when they get Shanahan in 2010 and go 9-7 and miss the playoffs.
Then I'll piss myself when they go 6-10 (or by this time 6-12) in 2011 and the rumors start milling that Snyder is courting Josh McDaniels to replace Shanny.

Yeah, ESPN is all over this story, saying that 'skins owner Dan Snyder is urging and pressing his people to get the deal done. It makes perfect sense when you think about it, as more and more Cutler is beginning to look like the second coming of this jerk...

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6229/jeffgeorge.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jeffgeorge.jpg)

Redballjets88

04-02-2009, 05:44 PM

looks like the bears win...

Denver Broncos agree to trade Jay Cutler to Chicago Bears - NFL - SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/04/02/cutler/index.html)

chefcraig

04-02-2009, 05:54 PM

Yep. Nice job on the coverage, ESPN. http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-ashamed-smileys-721.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/)

Cutler going to Bears
By John Clayton
ESPN.com

The Chicago Bears pulled the big upset Thursday afternoon by acquiring Denver Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler, a source told ESPN.com.

The Broncos confirmed the move.

To acquire Cutler, the Bears had to give up quarterback Kyle Orton and first-round picks in 2009 and 2010, a source said.

To complete the trade, the Broncos had to give back a third-round pick in 2009.

The Bears beat out the Redskins, Buccaneers, Lions, Titans and other teams to get land the 25-year-old Pro Bowl quarterback.

The Broncos had been asking for at least two first-round choices.

Cutler asked to be traded when he found out first-year coach Josh McDaniels tried to acquire Matt Cassel in a trade with the Patriots.

Cutler had not returned phone calls from the Broncos, according to the team, and had been staying away from the offseason program.

Chicago Bears acquire Jay Cutler from Denver Broncos - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4037373)

redblkwht

04-02-2009, 06:41 PM

chefcraig

04-02-2009, 06:46 PM

Two questions: Who is he going to throw to, and who is going to block for him? Those potential players now appear to be on their way to Denver.

Mr Walker

04-02-2009, 06:48 PM

who is going to block for him?

Orlando Pace

ProFootballTalk.com - Bears Add Pace (http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/02/bears-add-pace/)

chefcraig

04-02-2009, 06:54 PM

Orlando Pace

ProFootballTalk.com - Bears Add Pace (http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/02/bears-add-pace/)

Good catch. I dunno...thirty four is getting long in the tooth for an offensive lineman coming off a serious injury a while ago. Hope he holds up.

Pennypacker

04-02-2009, 07:04 PM

NFL.com reports that the Bears are giving up two first-rounder, a third-rounder, and Orton for only Cutler.

chefcraig

04-02-2009, 07:09 PM

NFL.com reports that the Bears are giving up two first-rounder, a third-rounder, and Orton for only Cutler.

A bit late, yet factual. You notice that NFL.com had the common sense to hold off on the story until they had it straight, while ESPN went with it's Redskins angle until reports out of Chicago made it superfluous.

Pennypacker

04-02-2009, 07:15 PM

haha I know, im late. Im usually updating you guys, feel like I've let you all down!

Mr Walker

04-02-2009, 07:21 PM

The Bears should go after Holt now.

chefcraig

04-02-2009, 07:26 PM

The Bears should go after Holt now.

That reminds me...have you guys heard anything on Antwon (or is it Anquan?) Boldin yet?

Va Beach VH Fan

04-02-2009, 07:53 PM

That's why they''re the Bears, you know, the team that hasn't won shit since '85....

Absolutely ridiculous giving up that much for a QB that also hasn't done shit....

chefcraig

04-02-2009, 08:09 PM

That's why they''re the Bears, you know, the team that hasn't won shit since '85....

Absolutely ridiculous giving up that much for a QB that also hasn't done shit....
Yep, he's 17/20. And just remember if he gets hurt, plan B is still Rex Grossman. http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/aktion/action-smiley-061.gif

Pennypacker

04-02-2009, 08:34 PM

http://store.chicagobears.com/assets/items/cutler.jpg

Pennypacker

04-02-2009, 08:39 PM

chefcraig

04-02-2009, 08:51 PM

http://store.chicagobears.com/assets/items/cutler.jpg

Oooops... http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-ashamed-smileys-721.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/Free-Sexy-Adult-Smileys/)

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6410/adenv.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=adenv.jpg)

Va Beach VH Fan

04-02-2009, 09:20 PM

The NFC North is interesting now,

Yes.... Interesting in a lousy kinda way....

redblkwht

04-03-2009, 02:18 AM

Yes.... Interesting in a lousy kinda way....

Hater..lol

he's just pissed his pirates aint shit either.:sign0090:

Like i said the 3rd rounder was the kicker for me, thats way
overboard, but im assuming washington was willing to
do anything for him..im sure they even offered
mr.snyder dancing naked on a pole for cutler.
:shagsheep:

these smileys are cracking me the fuck up..lol

redblkwht

04-03-2009, 02:21 AM

lol Va, I do hope you dig the Bears over the puckers..

Mr Walker

04-03-2009, 06:37 AM

That reminds me...have you guys heard anything on Antwon (or is it Anquan?) Boldin yet?

Last I heard he was talking about how he'd love to play in Miami.
I don't think the Bears have anything left to offer AZ for Boldin.

Mama's Fool

04-03-2009, 08:21 AM

glad the skins didn't land him. just don't trust cutler's attitude...it wears pretty thin like ryan leaf.

Va Beach VH Fan

04-03-2009, 08:26 AM

Hater..lol

he's just pissed his pirates aint shit either

Aaaaah, how interesting that you gotta switch sports to talk smack to me....

What's the matter RBW, why don't you talk smack about my NFL team ??

Oh, that's right, they're the ones that are Super Bowl Champs AGAIN....

Six-burgh !!!!!

:D

redblkwht

04-03-2009, 10:55 AM

Aaaaah, how interesting that you gotta switch sports to talk smack to me....

What's the matter RBW, why don't you talk smack about my NFL team ??

Oh, that's right, they're the ones that are Super Bowl Champs AGAIN....

Six-burgh !!!!!

:D
lol..
I just heard they had the same refs they had in the Seattle SB game too..
LMMFAO!!:biggrin:

DlocRoth

04-03-2009, 11:51 AM

That's why they''re the Bears, you know, the team that hasn't won shit since '85....

Absolutely ridiculous giving up that much for a QB that also hasn't done shit....

Can somebody please call the punky QB knows as McMahon?:biggrin:

Va Beach VH Fan

04-03-2009, 02:23 PM

lol..
I just heard they had the same refs they had in the Seattle SB game too..
LMMFAO!!:biggrin:

OF COURSE !!!! It HAD to be the refs fault !!!!

Come on folks, come up with some new material....

atomicpunk5151

04-03-2009, 04:44 PM

The NFC North is interesting now,
Chicago has acquired Cutler, we're all aware of his recent antics.
The Vikings still do not trust Jackson, and guaranteed Rosenfels will be the starter at some point this year.

All the pressure was on Rodgers after the Favre era ended, he started well (5-1 I believe) however the pressure got to him and we all know how that turned out.
The Lions are a mess, Culpepper may have been the answer 4 years ago, Orlovsky's gone, will they draft Stafford?
Interesting QB situations indeed.

I think you aren't giving Rodgers enough credit. He was put in a impossible situation. Played pretty well for the most part (28tds 13ints 93 QB rating). His team didn't exactly help him out with the choke job down the stretch. I think he will come out as the best QB from that division.

Hell I wish the 49ers had taken him instead of fuckin Alex Smith.

I may be a bit biasis as Rodgers is a local kid from NorCal.

DlocRoth

04-04-2009, 01:54 AM

OF COURSE !!!! It HAD to be the refs fault !!!!

Come on folks, come up with some new material....

Va....

You're kind of chippy......

Everything ok?

Or just starting some good ol fashioned Army shit?

redblkwht

04-04-2009, 02:22 AM

OF COURSE !!!! It HAD to be the refs fault !!!!

Come on folks, come up with some new material....
Nah I like this material..I also think Ben didn't cross the end zone nor did
your guys this year personally he was tackled.:hee:
There is a fix in every sport.:tongue0011:

Originally Posted by Dloc
Or just starting some good ol fashioned Army shit?

UM yes & Yes..Im kidding & i like to see Va go get another cup of coffee
smoke & call me an asshole 1x a year;) its all in fun.

Va, this is 2009 can the swillers repeat?

maybe it isn't 1985, but did any team dominate a S.B. like that since?
and made it fun to watch..most tune out of those blow outs.. they loved the bears that year im sure you liked them too the whole year was fun to watch
by everyone.
I rest my case.

redblkwht

04-04-2009, 02:28 AM

As long as the Pats dont win anymore, Honestly I'm happy!:finger33:

redblkwht

04-04-2009, 02:31 AM

:bigboobs::bigboobs:
:finger33::finger33:

Im finger fucking your girlfriend who digs the Pats..

This is my official Pats hater club members Ive started..:devils:

Va Beach VH Fan

04-04-2009, 09:52 AM

Va....

You're kind of chippy......

Everything ok?

Or just starting some good ol fashioned Army shit?

Nah, just stirring it up....

And just for RBW, I'm gonna find the pic that proves Ben crossed the goalline....

Va Beach VH Fan

04-04-2009, 10:03 AM

Now, once and for all, enough !!!!

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k55/ferr3816/XL_ben_is_in.jpg

redblkwht

04-04-2009, 11:50 AM

LOL ok then..back to Cutler to the bears.

Pennypacker

04-04-2009, 07:05 PM

Unrelated news...

Kyle Boller has signed with the St.Louis Rams

Byron Leftwich is close to signing with the Washington Redskins

Pennypacker

04-04-2009, 11:23 PM

Jeff Garcia has received interest from the Raiders