Best off Brand Guitar you've ever owned [Archive] - The Diamond David Lee Roth Army

houseofpain

05-12-2009, 01:27 AM

So we're all guitar nuts here, and we all own a variety of gear. So I was thinkin', I've owned lots of off-brand guitars over the years and I know my brother has too. So I was just wondering, who out there has owned an off brand guitar that they really fell in love with? Personally, I've currently got two that I would put up against anything.
1) I've got a Ventura acoustic electric 6 string that I bought brand new for $200. About a month after I bought it, I sold a Fender Gemini IV acoustic cause I liked the tone and playability of the Ventura much better.
2) I bought a Dillion LP copy off Ebay about 5 years ago. When I bought it, I was playing in a band with a guy who owned a Joe Perry signature Les Paul and a Custom Shop LP, and he would tell me, "I can't believe how much better your axe is than mine." For the way I play, the Dillion is perfect. It has a Dimarzio Tone Pro and a Dimarzio Super Distortion. Its a heavy, heavy guitar, and it plays exactly the way I want an axe to play.

Diamondjimi

05-12-2009, 01:44 AM

Well, it was a bastard of sorts I saw @ a local used/custom guitar shop. It was a Lado Strat shaped body (HB + SC pickup config.) someone had repainted to A Gibson like gold with a Rosewood Valley Arts neck . I paid $150.00 for it.
I took it home sanded down the neck to a soft "C" profile. Added a pair o Duncan JB's , added a gold Floyd Rose and a vol. + tone control.
Amazing tone, sustain for days.

I would'nt sell it for a thousand bucks....

jhale667

05-12-2009, 01:46 AM

Do all of my parts-mongrels count? :D

Diamondjimi

05-12-2009, 02:08 AM

Well ,tough call. I got lucky with that body/neck config. :D

Go for it , let's hear 'bout dem freaky guitars ya got there!;)

ELVIS

05-12-2009, 02:10 AM

Agile!

Great guitars!

:elvis:

Coyote

05-12-2009, 01:13 PM

Tokai LP copy...

Slap some decent p'ups in it, and you're set.

ZahZoo

05-12-2009, 01:40 PM

Agile!

Great guitars!

Agreed. I got an Ovation Celebrity style acoustic. Best damn $169 I ever spent on a guitar!!

Several years ago I had a Univox ES-335 copy that was great.

Nitro Express

05-12-2009, 03:33 PM

In the early 1980's I bought a Tokai Strat because I couldn't afford a Fender. That guitar was my main squeeze for years. Now people seek the old Tokai guitars. I can remember when Ibanez was an off brand in the 1970's. My first electric was an Ibanez from the late 70's purchased because I couldn't afford a Gibson.

indeedido

05-12-2009, 05:54 PM

GTX Les Paul. Black with aged creme binding. I changed the tuners to Schaller, changed out the pickups to Dimarzio Super Distortions, took a chisel to the center and added a third pickup ala Ace Frehley, changed the bridge and tail piece and BOOM, Black Beauty. It played great before the mods, so I sold my Gibson Les Paul. They felt way too similar and I only gave a Morley wah and DOD phaser for this guitar.

Who is GTX? I emailed the parent company Kaman and this is what I got: (Kaman makes/distributes Genz Benz, Takamine, Hamer, Ovation, etc. ) The GTX model GR36 dates back to 1990 when the retail price was $499.00 USD. Specs included a single cutaway body style, carved from a block of wood - mahogany on the back glued to spruce on the top, 2 classic-style humbucking pickups, suspended pickguard, adjustable bridge with "set neck stop" tailpiece and vintage knobs, 3-way selector p/u switch, Indian rosewood fingerboard with trapezoid pearl inlays, chrome hardware and 24" scale length. The GTX line was made in Korea. That's all we could dig up in the archives!

al3d

05-13-2009, 07:38 AM

it's no brainer...Fender / Gibson...what else..:)

Fuct Jup

05-20-2009, 01:31 PM

PRS Custom 24 10 Top

Martin HD-28

ELVIS

05-20-2009, 01:44 PM

How are Fender, Gibson, PRS or Martin OFF BRAND GUITARS ????

Read the fuckin' thread title asswipes...

:elvis:

rocknrolldork

05-20-2009, 03:06 PM

I have an 81 Ibanez Blazer bass I bought for $50.00 about 10 years ago. It has turned out to be the greatest $50.00 I've ever spent. This thing toured the US and parts of Europe with me. It took severe beatings about everynight too. Still plays great! Mine is way more beat up than the one in the pic, but it gives you an idea of what it looks like. Looks and plays like a P-bass, but sounds better IMO.

http://www.guitarcrazy.com.au/images/Inventory/Guitars/Other%20Electric/Ibanez_Blazer.jpg

Guitar-wise, I have an 81 Ibanez Blazer guitar. Now it's white with a PRS artist in the bridge and Gilmour pup's in the other 2 spaces, but here is a pic of when it was still a one trick pony. It just did that 1 thing really well.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/rocknrolldork/gear/guitars005.jpg

hideyoursheep

05-21-2009, 03:59 AM

It wasn't an off brand, but this Washburn with EMG's I had was one of the best I've ever played. Don't ask me what kind, cause I don't know...It was red with a painted neck...one of the few the pawn guy had without neck trouble and I skipped out with it for 100 booyahs.
Hold on...

ELVIS

05-21-2009, 04:28 AM

Ibanez, PRS, Washburn, Gibson, Fender, blah, blah, blah...

Can't any of you FOOLS follow simple ROOLS ???

I don't get it...

:elvis:

hideyoursheep

05-21-2009, 04:58 AM

Ibanez, PRS, Washburn, Gibson, Fender, blah, blah, blah...

Can't any of you FOOLS follow simple ROOLS ???

I don't get it...

:elvis:

No, I guess not.

When you mention off-brand, cheap and inexpensive come to mind...that's the only one I remember that stood out....sorry ELVIS!

Lighten up a little..

rocknrolldork

05-21-2009, 08:37 AM

Ibanez, PRS, Washburn, Gibson, Fender, blah, blah, blah...

Can't any of you FOOLS follow simple ROOLS ???

I don't get it...

:elvis:

When I think of off brands, I think of knockoff guitars. To me..... Pretty much any pre-Steve Vai Ibanez is an off brand. Ibanez made a shit ton on knockoffs in the 70's and early 80's. SG's, LP's, etc... I'm pretty sure the 1980 Blazer bass was the last lawsuit guitar they had. They changed the headstock and some of the pup config's starting in 81. Their guitars were well built, but I don't remember them having a huge roster of players until the mid-late 80's. Maybe they did but I don't remember it.

ELVIS

05-21-2009, 11:28 AM

I was about to make a list of Chinese copy guitars complete with images and I gave up...

They're far too many and it's pointless...

:elvis:

ZahZoo

05-21-2009, 02:49 PM

Here's my Agile...

indeedido

05-21-2009, 05:03 PM

Here is my "Aced" up GTX. What a great guitar. Threw some decals on it for kicks

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p301/indeedido/front.jpg

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p301/indeedido/body.jpg

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p301/indeedido/headstock.jpg

indeedido

05-21-2009, 05:04 PM

ELVIS

05-22-2009, 02:40 AM

Here's my Agile...

Nice, they don't make those anymore. I think that model was shut down with a law suit as it was a copy of an Ovation Collector's Series...

I have two Agile lefty acoustic Ovation Celebrity copies. One black and one with a cool matched ash top...

I also have a lefty Made in Korea Ovation that in no way compares to and Agile i've owned or seen...

:elvis:

Hardrock69

05-22-2009, 03:30 AM

I have a pair of neck thru body JB Player Strats made in 1985. While the neck is a little clubby, the fingerboard is rosewood, the are as heavy as a Les Paul, but play great, and have good tone.

GAR

05-23-2009, 04:05 AM

houseofpain

05-24-2009, 01:33 AM

If we are talking about thrown together guitars...
I have the body of a 94 Squire that a stripped and routed the bridge cavity. Bought a mighty mite pickguard and pickup set off the net for 20 bucks and an Ibanez roadstar neck. redfire painted the body white with black stripes, VH 1 guitar. Bought a tremolo off the net too, thru that on there. Its actually a really good sounding guitar. Not crazy about the neck though. Its to thin for me.

redfire has one that he bought all the parts off ebay...a flame shaped body, like Vai played with Dave. On that, he has a Charvel neck with locking nut. Bought the Floyd Rose trem for it, and a Seymore Duncan Screamin' Demon. Its a pretty sweet sounding guitar.

jhale667

05-24-2009, 01:47 AM

I'll have to take some new pictures of my Charvel, Warmoth and Musikraft mutts...they look a little different since I changed out the pickups and hardware on a few of them...

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h217/jhale667/Guitar%20shite/Bethrefurbedsm.jpg

GAR

05-24-2009, 02:18 AM

Whose initials or order #'s are penciled in the neck pocket, or control cavity?

GAR

05-24-2009, 02:30 AM

If we are talking about thrown together guitars...

In the vernacular of the trade, they call that a "players' axe" when they're pieced together.

We can always talk about those style of junk guitars like JHale loves to value so much, all day long. We all got some of that kinda crap.

What I think we're lookin' for in this thread, is some good experiences over below-radar brands.

For example, I did some work for this *cough*actress*cough* who does mostly the video type acting. She gave em a big tip with which I then used to pick up a 1985 Aria Pro flying V, with Original Floyd Rose and was already refretted with the 6100 Dunlop Jumbos. With orig case, $225 and it came home with me.

Well, that was a nice story about scoring a collectible guitar, but it doesn't belong in this thread since Aria Pro has a continuous and proliferant history of well made guitars.

What about Memphis copies? Or Matchbox. Or Hagstrom?

I have a Hoyer semihollowbody bass, that neck is one super slim fast neck for a bass.

I would recommend Hoyers, it has a zero fret nut, great original styling and apparently made in Sweden or some shit.

jhale667

05-24-2009, 03:02 AM

We can always talk about those style of junk guitars like JHale loves to value so much, all day long. We all got some of that kinda crap.

Whatever, jackass...:fufu:

GAR

05-24-2009, 03:34 AM

Is that a plywood Charvel body?

I have one of those right now. It sits in the garage with the other parts guitars, forlorn and rusting of string.. waiting, waiting for me to say hello to it. But I never do.

I has no case. It doesn't deserve a case!

jhale667

05-24-2009, 12:53 PM

Is that a plywood Charvel body?

You've got to be kidding me. No, it's Northern Ash. Plywood bodies are for assclowns like...

I have one of those right now.

Of course you do. :hee:

GAR

05-24-2009, 02:49 PM

Oh, "northern ash" that would be where the climate grows the tree growth rings denser, and more heavier.

Have you ever weighed that guitar and how does your left shoulder enjoy the unnecessary burden..

al3d

05-24-2009, 06:36 PM

How are Fender, Gibson, PRS or Martin OFF BRAND GUITARS ????

Read the fuckin' thread title asswipes...

:elvis:

Jesus dude...relax, you wont live to see retirement with a mouth like that. and you're a mod in here!...it's the internet..but been polite never hurts anyone.

al3d

05-24-2009, 06:39 PM

Oh..and ANYTHING not Fender or Gibson is a freaking off brand..not hard to understand...every single company either copied fender or Gibson for 98% of the time. other time..gretch..at best.

ELVIS

05-24-2009, 10:17 PM

Don't fuckin' tell me what to do or what is and what isn't...

Asswipe!

:elvis:

Diamondjimi

05-24-2009, 11:08 PM

Don't fuckin' tell me what to do or what is and what isn't...

Asswipe!

:elvis:

Wow, sounds like someone needs to go out and get laid...

Lighten up Francis! :biggrin:

Diamondjimi

05-24-2009, 11:11 PM

Here is my "Aced" up GTX. What a great guitar. Threw some decals on it for kicks

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p301/indeedido/front.jpg

Shit dude ,nice lookin knock off. Does it have a set neck or bolt on?

My very first guitar looked exactly like that one ,except it had a bolt on . I was 13 and I was happy as fuck! :biggrin:

Diamondjimi

05-24-2009, 11:27 PM

I have had an Electra LP copy, flimsey body but nice straight neck with the small frets I sometimes enjoyed - also had a Hohner H-76 tobacco burst LP copy. That had a good weighted body super thin neck, but shit pickups.

I changed those out, the tuners were shit I installed a used set of Grovers from off my real 76 LP and it was a wonderful thing. Pawn shop off Olympic near Soto, $80 with the case, but it took lots of work to clean up.

Bullshit!

[QUOTE]In the vernacular of the trade, they call that a "players' axe" when they're pieced together.

You mean in your trade of selling manpussy?

We can always talk about those style of junk guitars like JHale loves to value so much, all day long. We all got some of that kinda crap.

Hmm,Hales guitars seem to confuse you a little. Why Gar,because you didn't read about them in your Google searches?! :rolleyes:

For example, I did some work for this *cough*actress*cough* who does mostly the video type acting.

*Cough*Actor*cough* Fluffer*cough...

She gave em a big tip with which I then used to pick up a 1985 Aria Pro flying V, with Original Floyd Rose and was already refretted with the 6100 Dunlop Jumbos. With orig case, $225 and it came home with me.

Well, that was a nice story about scoring a collectible guitar, but it doesn't belong in this thread since Aria Pro has a continuous and proliferant history of well made guitars.

Hmm yeah. The bolt on Flying V knock off market is about to boom. Sheesh ,ya shoulda hung on to that puppy.... :rolleyes:

I have a Hoyer semihollowbody bass, that neck is one super slim fast neck for a bass.

No you don't...

Is that a plywood Charvel body?

WTF, are you using Google Thailand again?

I have one of those right now. It sits in the garage with the other parts guitars, forlorn and rusting of string.. waiting, waiting for me to say hello to it. But I never do.

Just because all of your guitars are bolt on plywood knock offs...

Oh, "northern ash" that would be where the climate grows the tree growth rings denser, and more heavier.

Googleclown!

indeedido

05-24-2009, 11:45 PM

Shit dude ,nice lookin knock off. Does it have a set neck or bolt on?

My very first guitar looked exactly like that one ,except it had a bolt on . I was 13 and I was happy as fuck! :biggrin:

It has a set neck. Great sustain. It is a good chunk of wood.

Diamondjimi

05-24-2009, 11:49 PM

It has a set neck. Great sustain. It is a good chunk of wood.

Nice! How much did this one run ya?

jhale667

05-25-2009, 12:23 AM

Hmm,Hales guitars seem to confuse you a little. Why Gar,because you didn't read about them in your Google searches?! :rolleyes:

:lol:

Diamondjimi

05-25-2009, 12:23 AM

:biggrin:

al3d

05-25-2009, 09:19 AM

Don't fuckin' tell me what to do or what is and what isn't...

Asswipe!

:elvis:

WEll..someone needs to since your louisianna hillibilly swamp brain seems to only know how to curse at everyone. Seriously mate...Grow-up will ya!. almost 18 000 postes?, dude..go out, meet a chick...or guy, no one would pass judgement, and PLEASE get laid, at best, a Bj !...might release All that anger.

GAR

05-25-2009, 10:16 AM

I was 13 and I was happy as fuck! :biggrin:

I was stealing kids' like yours' bikes and selling the fucking parts at the Peck Road Swapmeet in El Monte at 13 and I could give a shit which kids were happy and which ones weren't, so long as they were kids like you I'd still take their stuff.

Igosplut

05-25-2009, 06:43 PM

Have you ever weighed that guitar and how does your left shoulder enjoy the unnecessary burden..

We all know your narrow shoulders are. And how little they can hold. Punk coward child abuser....

Why don't you post some pictures of your "axes" like others here????

Cause you can't. because you own nothing.

Some times a punk is the best some people can aspire to.

Too bad you can't get that high....

Diamondjimi

05-25-2009, 08:05 PM

I was stealing kids' like yours' bikes and selling the fucking parts at the Peck Road Swapmeet in El Monte at 13 and I could give a shit which kids were happy and which ones weren't, so long as they were kids like you I'd still take their stuff.

Pfft... :rolleyes: And thieving shitbags like you I would take joy in smearing their noses across their fuckin faces. The only thing you're good at stealing is info from Google.

At 13 you were turning yourself on by urinating on young boys. (you said so yourself). :shiznit:Creep...

Diamondjimi

05-25-2009, 08:12 PM

[QUOTE=Igosplut;1352682]
Why don't you post some pictures of your "axes" like others here????

Cause you can't. because you own nothing.
QUOTE]

Exactly!:biggrin:

What a waste of skin...

jhale667

05-25-2009, 11:33 PM

GARgle gets no love...:lol:

Off-brand fun...:D

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GAR

05-26-2009, 12:45 AM

Once more jay, that's not an "off-brand" guitfiddle, that's a parts guitar.

ELVIS

05-26-2009, 12:52 AM

almost 18 000 postes?,

How many postes ??

And what's with the comma after the question mark ??

But it's only fuckin' asswipes like your motherfuckin' ass that I know fuckin' how to fuckin' fuck with and fuckin' curse at, assholio...

Oh yeah,

Fuck you

Fuck off

Your Mama

Your dog

And get a blow job from GAR

After your dog gets one first

Hey, maybe your sister is available

Oh, GAR has her reserved after the dog? my bad

I would say ask your mom, but that would be in bad taste...

Fuckface!

:elvis:

GAR

05-26-2009, 12:54 AM

Why don't you post some pictures of your "axes" like others here?

I have some unique, recognizable guitars that I don't want pics of out on the doubleyouweb-net thingy for all webternity. Which in the case of this site we're talking a lifecycle of about 3.5 years.

Diamondjimi

05-26-2009, 01:14 AM

I have some unique, recognizable guitars that I don't want pics of out on the doubleyouweb-net thingy for all webternity.

Sounds like you've got the bolt on /multi-lam (plywood) market cornered...

C'mon Clay ,let them out of the closet. Share them unique ,recognizable guitars with the world....:hee:

GAR

05-26-2009, 01:19 AM

I believe we have a thread for showing your guitars..

My Charvel is a plywood one from the Charvel Charvette Korean era 86-1990. I switched a Japanese Jackson Professional neck on it, which changed little for it except made it playable.

Diamondjimi

05-26-2009, 01:48 AM

My Charvel is a plywood one from the Charvel Charvette Korean era 86-1990. I switched a Japanese Jackson Professional neck on it, which changed little for it except made it playable.

Firewood!

Post a pic. of this turd for us ,Gump. Could use a good laugh!:biggrin:

GAR

05-26-2009, 01:51 AM

When people ask what do I play, I say "the radio."

However in this thread I play you like a piano because you're such I riot I cannot help myself.

Igosplut

05-26-2009, 01:56 PM

I have some unique, recognizable guitars that I don't want pics of out on the doubleyouweb-net thingy for all webternity. Which in the case of this site we're talking a lifecycle of about 3.5 years.

So in other words since you can't even show ONE guitar, you in most likely hood have as many as I do....NONE

Too busy getting turned one by wiping your ass with matchbox cars and throwing them to the neighborhood children to even get a plastic Ukulele I bet.....

yah

05-26-2009, 04:38 PM

I don't think it's really an "offbrand" but my favorite Strat-style knock-off was a Yamaha Pacifica that I had....damn-sold it long-ago!

Diamondjimi

05-26-2009, 05:35 PM

When people ask what do I play, I say "the radio."

More like the "Meat whistle" :biggrin:

However in this thread I play you like a piano because you're such I riot I cannot help myself.

Get a job ,Loser...
:rolleyes:

jhale667

05-26-2009, 08:06 PM

Once more jay, that's not an "off-brand" guitfiddle, that's a parts guitar.

Once more GARgle/GimpyChump, you're a douchebag. With a plywood guitar. STFU. :fufu:

:lol:

Diamondjimi

05-26-2009, 09:05 PM

Once more GARgle/GimpyChump, you're a douchebag. With a plywood guitar. STFU. :fufu:

:lol:

http://personales.ya.com/darkgotcha/blog/270907/pwned-facekick.jpg

:biggrin:

GAR

05-27-2009, 02:53 PM

I don't think it's really an "offbrand" but my favorite Strat-style knock-off was a Yamaha Pacifica that I had....damn-sold it long-ago!

Yeah, Yamaha's are a major-brand, but it can be confusing when major-brands do a knock-OFF of another maker's stuff.

I bought a Peavey Strat copy for $25, and the setup on it was amazing. Best deal ever, it initiated a hopscotch of parts between 3 others:

- bought a Korean Squier strat with a Gotoh block trem for $50, switched the Peavey trem onto it and sold it that way without the neck for $50 3 days later.
- Put the gotoh block trem and that Korean maple-maple neck on an 80's Squier Bullet MIM strat body I paid $20 for, pulled the nicey-nice '54-ish block off the Bullet, put that block on a bolt-on V parts guitar along with Epiphone chromed humbuckers and it intonates sooo perfectly. It's nice now. Same pickups it came with, which will change - but it now has a Kahler trem because that's what I like.

Jay may be pissed that his collection of parts guitars are worth less than the aggregated value of each part assembled, but let's look at the value of a parts guitar as I'm describing:

- you appreciate them more because you put abit of yourself into them having selected each screw and doohickey

- you can do a fair guitar rather quickly, then upgrade later as you can afford better pickups tuners etc.

- quite often they'll play better than an offbrand or a branded guitar because you'll take the time to do the setup correctly, which in some raw cases you're talking 5 to 6 hours of adjustments, stringing, topping frets etc. and at the factory they may allow 6 to 20 minutes for assembly and setup in some cases.

But in the case of the strictly OFF-BRAND guitars, they're a certain secret-something you enjoy in getting a hidden value where you only expected to find a barely-adequate or backup guitar.

These are the sweet deals when, in some cases, even the pickups are adequate and you don't need to change anything to get good playability from it.

That's the whole purpose of this thread: to let each other know what is or is not a good "off brand" find!

So there's not much to be ashamed of in calling a spade a spade, as a "parts guitar."

It's what it is, and EVH led the way on that so why an attitude? I'm proud of my parts guitars, it's just that some I don't play at all and if I had time to do a gog-thru with them all (about 24) I'd probably whittle it down to 6 or 8 that I really like once I start ebaying junk again.

Diamondjimi

05-27-2009, 04:15 PM

Nice rambling post there....

Jeez, sounds like you don't have any human beings in your life to talk to. :(

indeedido

05-27-2009, 04:42 PM

Here is one for you. Rondo Music makes several knock off/no name brands. One of which is SX. Dig it.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p301/indeedido/Picture006-3.jpg

It plays great and has a solid alder body. Chunky neck. Electronics were good enough to keep, but I wanted to do some P90 action so I swapped them since this pic was taken.

Igosplut

05-27-2009, 06:01 PM

Nice rambling post there....

Bad bullshitters like him often make the mistake of posting feats of memory (him reciting the exact dollar amount of each and every small piece like it was yesterday) that are all but impossible for most people. Most couldn't be bothered to remember details that are mostly meaningless. Saying that he has 24 guitars (that are all too valuable to post pictures of, but can be put on Ebay without problems?) And he can seemingly cough up the most minute facts? This is a common theme in all his threads/posts, he recites details down to the last/smallest little thing. It's part of the "look how smart I am" reinforcement that people like him need.

In fact, when he posted a long involved thread (at DDLR) about how he runs his diesel truck on a mixture of fuel oil and waste oil (or mostly straight waste oil) he gave each and every detail right down to the mileage, exact ratio of mix, variables, How much exhaust smoke, where he kept it (and where he got the containers) and the name of the place (and the guy who worked there) If he payed and how much, plus the street address. Running a diesel truck on drain oil/and or fuel oil mix (for those who don't know) is impossible for a number of reasons, as anybody who has gotten a bad tank of fuel oil can tell you. But his posts about that read just like his last one in this thread.

The troll phobia of always having to be right, and know more than the next person is never more obvious than with him. I know shit from a hole in the ground about guitars, but I've seen posters who call him out for posting wrong info and he handles it the same way as he has been here. Either ignore it completely or dance around the fact without directly addressing it (his more popular choice). I've seen him post automotive information (something I do know about) and it's obvious that he's winging it as he goes because just the way the answers (and it's always answers, or instructions) are structured. Not exactly wrong mostly, but never really right if you know what I mean and mostly because it vaguely addresses the heart of whats being asked. And I've never seen a subject that he can't give you a long dissertation on.

Simply put, among everything else about him if he was any more fulla shit, he'd be a landfill.....

Sorry for interrupting the thread yet again..........

kwame k

05-27-2009, 06:16 PM

Bad bullshitters like him often make the mistake of posting feats of memory (him reciting the exact dollar amount of each and every small piece like it was yesterday) that are all but impossible for most people. Most couldn't be bothered to remember details that are mostly meaningless. Saying that he has 24 guitars (that are all too valuable to post pictures of, but can be put on Ebay without problems?) And he can seemingly cough up the most minute facts? This is a common theme in all his threads/posts, he recites details down to the last/smallest little thing. It's part of the "look how smart I am" reinforcement that people like him need.

In fact, when he posted a long involved thread (at DDLR) about how he runs his diesel truck on a mixture of fuel oil and waste oil (or mostly straight waste oil) he gave each and every detail right down to the mileage, exact ratio of mix, variables, How much exhaust smoke, where he kept it (and where he got the containers) and the name of the place (and the guy who worked there) If he payed and how much, plus the street address. Running a diesel truck on drain oil/and or fuel oil mix (for those who don't know) is impossible for a number of reasons, as anybody who has gotten a bad tank of fuel oil can tell you. But his posts about that read just like his last one in this thread.

The troll phobia of always having to be right, and know more than the next person is never more obvious than with him. I know shit from a hole in the ground about guitars, but I've seen posters who call him out for posting wrong info and he handles it the same way as he has been here. Either ignore it completely or dance around the fact without directly addressing it (his more popular choice). I've seen him post automotive information (something I do know about) and it's obvious that he's winging it as he goes because just the way the answers (and it's always answers, or instructions) are structured. Not exactly wrong mostly, but never really right if you know what I mean and mostly because it vaguely addresses the heart of whats being asked. And I've never seen a subject that he can't give you a long dissertation on.

Simply put, among everything else about him if he was any more fulla shit, he'd be a landfill.....

Sorry for interrupting the thread yet again..........

Spot fucking on!

al3d

05-27-2009, 06:33 PM

How many postes ??

And what's with the comma after the question mark ??

But it's only fuckin' asswipes like your motherfuckin' ass that I know fuckin' how to fuckin' fuck with and fuckin' curse at, assholio...

Oh yeah,

Fuck you

Fuck off

Your Mama

Your dog

And get a blow job from GAR

After your dog gets one first

Hey, maybe your sister is available

Oh, GAR has her reserved after the dog? my bad

I would say ask your mom, but that would be in bad taste...

Fuckface!

:elvis:

LOL...someone needs a nap, or therapy..wich ever you can afford to do..:) i'de love to fuck my moma or dog..but i don't live in louisianna..;)..sorry.

jhale667

05-27-2009, 09:16 PM

Nice rambling post there....

Jeez, sounds like you don't have any human beings in your life to talk to. :(

More interesting (or disturbing) is the developing obsession with my guitars...how many threads has he prattled on about them in now? :hee:

Let's break it down for GAyR...

Dude, of course they're worthless to anyone but me...ironically, that's kinda the point.

You fucking idiot. :lol:

Thanks for playing.

:guitar:

kwame k

05-27-2009, 09:19 PM

More interesting (or disturbing) is the developing obsession with my guitars...how many threads has he prattled on about them in now? :hee:

Let's break it down for GAyR...

Dude, of course they're worthless to anyone but me...ironically, that's kinda the point.

You fucking idiot. :lol:

Thanks for playing.

:guitar:

Ah yeah, kinda of like Eddie's Frankie. You modify your shit to suit your needs not some trend or for resale. Jesus, I'm a fucking drummer and I understand that.:pullinghair:

Diamondjimi

05-27-2009, 11:15 PM

More interesting (or disturbing) is the developing obsession with my guitars...how many threads has he prattled on about them in now? :hee:

It's just pure envy J. He owns a Charvette & an '82 Hondo Flyivg V (bolt on of course) and plays through a moldy 2 year old Pignose with a broken off volume knob... :D

Let's break it down for GAyR...

Dude, of course they're worthless to anyone but me...ironically, that's kinda the point.

You fucking idiot. :lol:

Thanks for playing.

:guitar:

Dude ,I would gladly take any one of those shred weapons off your hands any day of the week. ;)
:gulp:

Diamondjimi

05-27-2009, 11:19 PM

GAR

05-28-2009, 02:05 AM

Nice rambling post there....

Jeez, sounds like you don't have any human beings in your life to talk to.

Yeah, either that or I type close to 80 words a minute.. since you own no guitars, all you post is rambling!

GAR

05-28-2009, 02:19 AM

It's part of the "look how smart I am" reinforcement that people like him need.

In fact, when he posted a long involved thread (at DDLR) about how he ...

Dullards like you will always take my experinces sharing the wrong way.

Did you catch my experiment thread where I found some plans to make a gasoline distillation tower from used motor oil I had collected, back when gas was five bucks a gallon? I didn't need to share it, so much as wanting to encourage others to try it you know, the old Scout ethic do it yourself and such..

That's what happened to what was left over when my diesel MERCEDES found an enthusiastic buyer. And when oil goes 100 plus a barrel, I'll run used oil in the tank again as a lot of people last year found you could do! And because it works.. go goolgle that shit and see if it's not true.

My encouragement was often wasted by dopes like you who made up their minds after the first paragraph, and that's okay because it just wasn't meant for you, in these times but you are not alone.. some listened, most did not.

For example, I thought up a cool project for a stack of single-height networking routers and (was it HighLifeMan) since someone was looking for a Marshall JMP-1 preamp rack I thought "lets do one better and make it a hunnert watts MOSFET solidstate".. I made a thread to see if any one was interested and I think it was LesFunk was the only guy down for it.

That was also about recycling, about doing-it-yourself.. Igo you're just not a handyman but you someday can be if you try.

Give up the hate bullshit, the reason I don't answer and rebutt every divisive nonsensical refutation of something I've claimed or posted is: either way an answer just feeds you to respond.

With that said, you're this close to ignore. Grow thee FUCK up.

ELVIS

05-28-2009, 03:51 AM

i'de love to fuck my moma or dog.

You've got problems...

I'de love to see you go away...

:elvis:

"ide" :lmao::elvis:

ELVIS

05-28-2009, 03:54 AM

I didn't need to share it, so much as wanting to encourage others to try it you know, the old Scout ethic do it yourself and such..

Sort of like algore inventing the internet...

:elvis:

al3d

05-28-2009, 04:56 PM

You've got problems...

I'de love to see you go away...

:elvis:

"ide" :lmao::elvis:

Unfortunaly it's not everyday one can find a hillbilly so entertaining like you...so i'll stay..:)

jhale667

05-28-2009, 07:47 PM

since you own no guitars, all you post is rambling!

Since yours is plywood, technically you don't either...:biggrin:

And let's review, Mangina...this is what you're doing when you put people on ignore (particularly just because you can't stand being perpetually owned). So stop with the sissy "you're this close to being on ignore" crap. It's lame even for you.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h217/jhale667/Insult%20comic/ostrich.jpg

BUT, if you wanna play that way, how's about this entire forum puts you on ignore? If you'd like, I'll delete all your posts for you...or shall we take a poll? ;)

:guitar:

ELVIS

05-29-2009, 03:05 AM

Unfortunaly it's not everyday one can find a hillbilly so entertaining like you...so i'll stay..:)

~Ha!~

:elvis:

GAR

05-29-2009, 09:31 AM

BUT, if you wanna play that way

If I put people on ignore, it means I don't play to provoke people, over and over, stalking them from thread to thread.

GAR

05-29-2009, 09:45 AM

If some of you guys take advantage from my tips, okay. If not, don't go off claiming liar because I don't post pics.

If I think Jay's guitars are parts-guitars, or players' axes - THAT is what they are called not by me but by the music retail industry - that's what they are gentlemen. I have guitars like this and am not ashamed to say what they are.

I feel it's okay to tease one another on a guitar we may not necessarily respect, but there's a certain meanness infecting this thread.. so if you're gonna be a FUCKING DICKHEAD about insisting an "apple" is an "orange" when I say the piece of shit bolt-together is not some fine instrument i.e. "it is / it is not an offbrand" well, you're wrong.

Let this be the definition: an off-brand guitar is both of these things, neither a major brand nor a home-built or a put-together thing.

THAT's it.

indeedido

05-29-2009, 10:22 AM

I think the point of the thread is not what guitar you built or pieced together, but what no name brand guitars you've bought/played that was actually pretty decent. A parts guitar does not fit into that mold. That thread would be a builders thread. A JB player body with a Silvertone neck does not apply because those are two different makes. A Harmony strat with its original body and neck would apply.:stirthepot::deadhorse:

GAR

05-29-2009, 07:04 PM

A Harmony strat with its original body and neck would apply.

That's exactly the point: let's talk about Harmony's we've owned, not our latest put-together we'd like to fawn over in cellphone youtubes.

jhale667

05-29-2009, 11:11 PM

Maybe you can pick up a book on jealousy, since you're already at the library...:lol:

jhale667

05-29-2009, 11:14 PM

GAR

05-30-2009, 01:00 AM

Suits me to see the mod wreck threads in his own forum for the titillation of his own ego..

jhale667

05-30-2009, 01:28 AM

Isn't that what you're doing, Supermod? :lol:

Back on topic, bitch. :tongue0011:

jhale667

05-30-2009, 01:36 AM

Do Squiers count as "off" brands? Grabbed a Strat at a $89 at GC about 8 years ago (before I built the two Strats I have now) to do a clean track, put an old Dimarzio HS-3 I had laying around in it - and aside from completely shitty tuners and hardware, the neck and body didn't suck entirely...did the job in a pinch.

Sold the thing about 4 months later...got the HS-3 back from the guy last year, ironically...

GAR

05-30-2009, 05:03 AM

I would question that too, there are so many permutations of what exactly a Squier is.

Last year, I picked up two pre-CIJ Jap Squiers for under 100 each, supposedly they go for around 500 now.

Last month, I pick up a Korean Squier for 50, a vastly different quality guitar. The only thing good on it was the neck.

I don't know why but some Chinese and Indonesian Squiers have them half-shell covered tuners, with the shit chrome scab, while others in the same production run will have the sealed Schaller copy tuners.

Changing these tuners makes quite a difference, I think on a small preCBS style headstock the heavier tuner takes away some bass end more than it affects the larger CBS headstock which is why I prefer the CBS one.

jhale667

05-30-2009, 05:06 AM

Meh, they're a crapshoot at best. This one had the crappy open tuners. I stuck a Groove Tubes Brass Fat Finger on the headstock for the track, and it did well enough...

GAR

05-30-2009, 05:11 AM

The Gotoh have always been my favorite tuner.

These chinese ones on the Squiers made by Ping cost less than $4 per set, but are selling for almost $40 at Guitar Center and I think they're a ripoff for doing that.

It's just like their cables, they got 1.70 into a 6meter guitar cord yet sell it for 16 bucks

They'd sell more replacement sets if they were just more fair about it. So many offbrand guitars, the first detraction you notice is the crap tuners.

jhale667

05-30-2009, 05:45 AM

I like and usually use Gotohs, but have purchased a couple of sets of Schaller locking tuners for my Strats without locking nuts since they've upped their gear ratio (presumably to match their main competitor, Gotoh) to 16:1

I have an old set of Schallers from the late 80s that are 12:1, and while like everything Schaller makes, they're built like tanks, they suck ass...

jackassrock

05-30-2009, 09:43 AM

<a href="http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa301/jackassrock/?action=view&current=l_4d1bac103b88533d89d1bcfe10842c9b.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa301/jackassrock/l_4d1bac103b88533d89d1bcfe10842c9b.jpg" border="0" alt="Koln Germany"></a>

This beauty is me. The other beauty is a Burny LPC with a Dimarzio D100 in the bridge position and the stock Burny pups elsewhere. They actually sound great and this is one of the nicest Les Pauls I've had, or even played. It's fairly lightweight and packs a serious punch. The pic is from the show where I met kentuckyklira in Koln.

Another really nice one that I had was a Washburn WP-80, which was an early 80s LPC copy, black with EMGs.