Torture Photos Leaked

[LoungeMachine]

Washington's Blog: Here Are a Few of the Torture Photos Obama Doesn't Want You To See


I thought Bush said WE DONT TORTURE ?????

[Blaze]

The international community really needs to step up and bring some charges. To not do so is appalling and shirking the accountability of nations.

[Kristy]

Seems a bit suspect to me on why they were "leaked" but none of them look doctored in any way. Seems they were hand picked to reflect shock value of physical beatings over sheer torture itself which would include psychological.

[kwame k]

Well all I can say is at least Nancy Pelosi had no knowledge of Bush's OK with using torture, then again maybe not. She is such a fucking liar.

By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS, Associated Press Writer Julie Hirschfeld Davis, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 22 mins ago
WASHINGTON – Under strong attack from Republicans, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi accused the CIA and Bush administration of misleading her about waterboarding detainees in the war on terror and sharply rebutted claims she was complicit in the method's use.

"We were told specifically that waterboarding was not being used," she told reporters, referring to a formal CIA briefing she received in the fall of 2002.

Pelosi said she subsequently learned that other lawmakers were told several months later by the CIA about the use of waterboarding.

"I wasn't briefed, I was informed that someone else had been briefed about it," she said.

The House's top Democrat made her comments at a news conference where she was peppered with questions about her knowledge of a technique she and others have called torture. Republicans have insisted in recent weeks that Pelosi and other Democrats knew waterboarding was in use but made no attempt to protest.

Pelosi's comments Thursday were her most pointed yet on the topic of what she learned about waterboarding and when.

In a written response issued moments after Pelosi spoke, an official at the CIA neither disputed nor accepted the California Democrat's statements.

Instead, George Little, a CIA spokesman, told The Associated Press: "It is not the policy of this agency to mislead the United States Congress."

He pointed to a recent letter from CIA Director Leon Panetta to lawmakers saying it would be up to Congress to determine whether notes made by agency personnel at the time they briefed lawmakers were accurate.

House Republican Leader John Boehner dismissed Pelosi's account.

"When you look at the number of briefings that the Speaker was in and other Democrat members of the House and Senate, it's pretty clear that they were well aware of what these enhanced interrogation techniques were," said the Ohio lawmaker. "They were well aware that they had been used, and it seems to me that they want to have it both ways. You can't have it both ways."

Despite Boehner's comments, CIA records show Pelosi attended only one briefing — the one in the fall of 2002 where she says she was told that waterboarding had not been used. A chart released by the CIA detailing its briefings for lawmakers is vague on what transpired at that session. It says Pelosi and the top Intelligence Committee Republican, then-Rep. Porter J. Goss of Florida, were given a "description of the particular (enhanced interrogation techniques) that had been employed," without further details.

The chart specifically notes a discussion of waterboarding in 13 briefings between February 2003 and March 2009, most attended by Democrats as well as Republicans.

Pelosi renewed her call for a so-called truth commission to investigate the events in the Bush administration that led to the use of waterboarding and other harsh interrogation techniques. While President Barack Obama has banned waterboarding, calling it torture, he has been notably cool toward an independent inquiry that might distract attention from his domestic agenda.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., also has expressed opposition, as have congressional Republicans.

Pelosi was particularly harsh in describing the CIA.

"They mislead us all the time," she said. And when a reporter asked whether the agency had lied, Pelosi said yes.

She also suggested that the current Republican criticism marked an attempt to divert attention from the Bush administration's actions.

"They misrepresented every step of the way, and they don't want that focus on them, so they try to turn the attention on us," she said.

Pelosi contended that Democrats did what they could to stop the use of waterboarding. The senior Democrat on the Intelligence Committee, who received the 2003 briefing on the practice, sent the CIA a formal letter of protest, she said.

But Pelosi defended her own lack of action on the issue, saying her focus at the time was on wresting congressional control from Republicans so her party could change course.

"No letter could change the policy. It was clear we had to change the leadership in Congress and in the White House. That was my job — the Congress part," Pelosi said.

When Pelosi first addressed the question in late April, she said only that those present at her 2002 briefing were not told that the practice had been employed.

"We were not — I repeat, were not — told that waterboarding or any of these other enhanced interrogation methods were used," she said at the time.

Later, her spokesman elaborated, saying Pelosi had been told the methods were legal but that they had not yet been used.

On Thursday, Pelosi accused the CIA of having lied during that session by explicitly telling her that waterboarding was not used.

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Associated Press Writers David Espo and Ann Sanner contributed to this report

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[kwame k]

Fucking dupe!

[Guitar Shark]

I say we waterboard her to see if she is telling the truth.

[sadaist]

How do we know how those guys were bloodied? Was it from the battlefield where they may have been captured? Prison fight? Or did our men do it? Just a photo of a guy bleeding isn't enough to say how it happened. I'm not saying our guys didn't do anything, but I believe releasing photos like this without any definitive background on each injury is irresponsible. People always seem to jump to the absolute worst conclusion.

[LoungeMachine]

. People always seem to jump to the absolute worst conclusion.

And you people always seem to jump to their defense.



christ.

[Kristy]

How do we know how those guys were bloodied? Was it from the battlefield where they may have been captured? Prison fight? Or did our men do it? Just a photo of a guy bleeding isn't enough to say how it happened.

That's why I'm saying these photos seem a bit suspect to me. Those don't look so much to be torture as they do mob-style beatings. But again, these photos could have come from anywhere.

[sadaist]

And you people always seem to jump to their defense.



christ.

I defended no one in my post. So I'm a jackass for questioning the photos? What does that make you for believing everything you're told?

[LoungeMachine]

I defended no one in my post. So I'm a jackass for questioning the photos? What does that make you for believing everything you're told?

I don't accept your premise.

But I do accept the testimony of many people who say we HAVE tortured, and the photos from Abu Graib was only the start.

Even Darth has said the "inhanced interrogation" tactics worked.

I think these photos are what he would call "enhanced"

I dont believe half of what I read or hear, and not much of what I even see these days, as this country and its government has stepped through the looking glass. And I'm not exactly thrilled with the current leaders of my own party/government either.

But I dont recalll you posting anything other than defense of all things BushCO.

So it was a blanket/kneejerk "jackass"

Meaning even if you didnt have it coming for this post, you probably did for a post I missed, or a future post I wont read.

[Dr. Love]

sure, president obama doesn't want them released. right.

[LoungeMachine]

I agree with Doc.

Obama is playing chess here.

Just hope he's better at it than I am at tic-tc-toe.

[GAR]

Washington's Blog: Here Are a Few of the Torture Photos Obama Doesn't Want You To See


I thought Bush said WE DONT TORTURE ?????

Why do you care?
Who the fuck cares, I thought we could shoot 'em on sight in combat.
Why is anyone shedding a fucking tear for these stupid fuckers.

FUCK them. Send 'em to hell, anything less is delaying the inevitable and they should be thankfull for their lives to survive.



Anyone's who's ever spent any length of time in the LA County jail has seen the Sherrifs goon squad charge in with a group of officers, select one troublemaker, then trash the fuck out of him. Crying about such bullshit is bullshit pussies cry, anyone piping a squeak about "ooooh, tort-chure" deserves a fucking beatdown.

They asked Dick Cheney on OReilly whether or not he considered this torture, his reply was basically "because we are signed to the Geneva Convention it is."

I only halfheartedly expected some peadick from the Liberal Trio here to post this bullshit. I have to ask, where is yoru spine are you seriously that much into the Koolaid?

[GAR]

Just hope he's better at it than I am at tic-tc-toe.

Don't let your tears sogg the crumpets this morning over it if he's not.