Mich. prison assessed for possible Gitmo transfers

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  • kwame k
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Feb 2008
    • 11302

    Mich. prison assessed for possible Gitmo transfers

    By JOHN FLESHER, Associated Press Writer – 36 mins ago
    STANDISH, Mich. – Federal and state officials visited a maximum-security prison in rural Michigan on Thursday to begin assessing its suitability to house Guantanamo Bay detainees.
    About a dozen state officials were joined by 18 representatives from the Defense, Justice and Homeland Security departments and the Bureau of Prisons on the tour of the lockup in Standish, said Russ Marlan, a spokesman for the Michigan Department of Corrections.
    The prison in Standish, 145 miles north of Detroit, and a military penitentiary at Fort Leavenworth, Kan., are being considered to house the 229 suspected al-Qaida, Taliban and foreign fighters currently at the Guantanamo Bay prison, if it is closed by 2010 as President Barack Obama has ordered.
    Wednesday's was a fact-finding inspection, and federal officials had not proposed transferring detainees to Standish, Marlan said.
    "The visit to Standish is to do a preliminary site survey. No final decisions have been made," White House press secretary Robert Gibbs in Washington said about the survey.
    Marlan said the group looked at six housing units, the administration building, the health care wing and the cafeteria, where they lunched on the same meal the inmates were served: Salisbury steak, beans, spinach and carrot cake.
    None of the federal officials commented to reporters as they left for private meetings with local officials.
    The tour was similar to one given recently to a corrections team from California, which has shown interest in sending inmates from its overcrowded prisons to Michigan and is expected to make a decision within a couple of weeks, Marlan said. Michigan also has received inquiries about housing inmates from Pennsylvania.
    The region around Standish is hurting economically, with an unemployment rate of more than 17 percent, and some residents welcome bringing in the Guantanamo detainees if it will prevent closing down the prison, which with about 340 workers is the area's largest employer.
    "Let 'em come. This community is hurting enough," Gloria Watson, 71, said while lunching in a downtown restaurant.
    The terrorism suspects would be no more dangerous than other criminals who have been held in the prison throughout its 20-year history, said Watson, the pastor of a Presbyterian church in nearby Twining. "I just wish people would stop running scared."
    Others fear bringing the Guantanamo detainees to Standish would make the town a target.
    "The problem I have is, you almost are putting a bulls-eye on the whole entire area. There are just too many things that could go wrong," said Tom Kerrins, the chief steward for the Michigan Corrections Organization, the union representing prison workers in Standish.
    Kerrins, 49, said the union opposes sending the Gitmo prisoners to Standish in part because it doubts the jobs of watching over them would go to the state officers working there now and would instead go to federal officers.
    "They're still going to kick us down the road. They're going to use their own people," the Gladwin resident said Thursday outside the prison.
    Rep. Peter Hoekstra, R-Mich, the senior Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, said Thursday that he would ask the departments of Defense and Justice to lead a delegation to visit Guantanamo Bay "to better understand the special circumstances and the challenges that these detainees present by moving them to Michigan."
    Hoekstra, who is running for Michigan governor in 2010, is opposed to moving the prisoners to the state.
    "Allowing state and local officials to see firsthand these detainees and Guantanamo Bay is necessary for them to understand the challenges and risks," he said in a statement.
    Kansas' two Republican senators, Sam Brownback and Pat Roberts, oppose proposals to move detainees to Fort Leavenworth, and have held up the nomination of New York Republican Rep. John McHugh for Army secretary until they receive more information from the Obama administration about the possible Leavenworth choice.
    Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., called on her Kansas colleagues to relent on Thursday, saying it's in the best interest of the Army and the nation to swiftly allow the nomination to move forward.

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    Originally posted by vandeleur
    E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place
  • kwame k
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Feb 2008
    • 11302

    #2
    The people of Michigan have got what they deserves for voting in such a worthless shit as Granholm, not once but twice. What they need to do is like the Kurt Russel movie Escape from LA (?). Put a wall around Detroit and let them have at it. Not like anyone wants Detroit or there are any plans in the future to fix that cluster fuck.

    My poor home state.......first the Depression, then the Lions and now this.
    Originally posted by vandeleur
    E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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    • Blackflag
      Banned
      • Apr 2006
      • 3406

      #3
      Originally posted by kwame k
      The people of Michigan have got what they deserves for voting in such a worthless shit as Granholm, not once but twice. What they need to do is like the Kurt Russel movie Escape from LA (?). Put a wall around Detroit and let them have at it. Not like anyone wants Detroit or there are any plans in the future to fix that cluster fuck.

      My poor home state.......first the Depression, then the Lions and now this.
      I don't disagree about that shithole, but what does that have to do with this prison in the boondocks?

      And you're thinking of the classic Escape from New York...the more whimsical L.A. didn't have a wall...

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      • Big Train
        Full Member Status

        • Apr 2004
        • 4011

        #4
        Doesn't matter where they go.

        Put them in the general population, they will all be shanked in a month.

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        • kwame k
          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
          • Feb 2008
          • 11302

          #5
          Originally posted by Blackflag
          I don't disagree about that shithole, but what does that have to do with this prison in the boondocks?

          And you're thinking of the classic Escape from New York...the more whimsical L.A. didn't have a wall...
          Yeah, the New York one, hence the question mark.

          I know exactly where Standish is and had to drive through there to get to my property in Northern Michigan. The Detroit thing was a joke.
          Originally posted by vandeleur
          E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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          • Blackflag
            Banned
            • Apr 2006
            • 3406

            #6
            That would be the perfect ending for one of them that's innocent. Pulled out of your own house by a foreign army, shipped off to Cuba, held 7 years without a trial, then sent to buttwater, michigan to be shanked by some lowlife. I love that story.

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            • kwame k
              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
              • Feb 2008
              • 11302

              #7
              Great story Unjustly imprisoned because a jealous fellow tribesman that had a grudge against you and you end up in bum fucked Michigan getting shanked...........Movie of the week possibilities right there.
              Originally posted by vandeleur
              E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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              • Nickdfresh
                SUPER MODERATOR

                • Oct 2004
                • 49125

                #8
                Originally posted by kwame k
                The people of Michigan have got what they deserves for voting in such a worthless shit as Granholm, not once but twice. What they need to do is like the Kurt Russel movie Escape from LA (?). Put a wall around Detroit and let them have at it. Not like anyone wants Detroit or there are any plans in the future to fix that cluster fuck.

                My poor home state.......first the Depression, then the Lions and now this.
                Well you still have the Red Wings. And aren't a lot of locals praying for this? Prison bling is good bling...

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                • kwame k
                  TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 11302

                  #9
                  True and anything that can help Michigan's economy has to be a good thing. My responses are more tongue in cheek than anything else.
                  Originally posted by vandeleur
                  E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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                  • Mushroom
                    Commando
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 1122

                    #10
                    I like the fact so many people cried for the closure of Gitmo, and Obama plegded to close Gitmo. But now, the majority cry they do not want the "prisoners" in their state, NIMBY. I would have liked to be in the same room with Obama when he was briefed on the whole Gitmo/detainee situation.

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                    • sadaist
                      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 11625

                      #11
                      I wonder how the Yoopers feel about this? Maybe they'll try to have them released for a new hunting season.
                      “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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                      • Va Beach VH Fan
                        ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 17913

                        #12
                        Here's what I don't understand....

                        There's a brand-new maximum security prison in Hardin, Montana that actually WANTS these prisoners, but it doesn't appear that they'll go there...

                        The Montana Town That Wanted to Be Gitmo - TIME
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                        • Nickdfresh
                          SUPER MODERATOR

                          • Oct 2004
                          • 49125

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Blackflag
                          That would be the perfect ending for one of them that's innocent. Pulled out of your own house by a foreign army, shipped off to Cuba, held 7 years without a trial, then sent to buttwater, michigan to be shanked by some lowlife. I love that story.
                          Why not. Innocent people have been "shanked" by the entire criminal justice system...

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                          • Nickdfresh
                            SUPER MODERATOR

                            • Oct 2004
                            • 49125

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
                            Here's what I don't understand....

                            There's a brand-new maximum security prison in Hardin, Montana that actually WANTS these prisoners, but it doesn't appear that they'll go there...

                            The Montana Town That Wanted to Be Gitmo - TIME
                            It's Obama's socialism. Since he now owns GM, he has to create gov't jobs in Detroit.

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                            • Nickdfresh
                              SUPER MODERATOR

                              • Oct 2004
                              • 49125

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Mushroom
                              I like the fact so many people cried for the closure of Gitmo, and Obama plegded to close Gitmo. But now, the majority cry they do not want the "prisoners" in their state, NIMBY. I would have liked to be in the same room with Obama when he was briefed on the whole Gitmo/detainee situation.

                              Or pussy "conservatives" that are afraid to put "terrorists" in their nearby prisons that house felons that are far worse than probably 80% of the GITMO detainees...

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