MSNBC...i mean wow..

[Big Train]

Video one via CNN

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MSNBC

Hot Air » Blog Archive » Unreal: MSNBC edits clip of man with gun at Obama rally to support racism narrative (http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/19/unreal-msnbc-edits-clip-of-man-with-gun-at-obama-rally-to-support-racism-narrative/)

"White people showing up with guns. Perhaps there is a racial overtone to this". Apparently, she did not notice or was told to not mention the guy strapped with the rifle was black.

FOX NEWS would be BURNED for this...

[FORD]

And what about the cunts who yelled Heil Hitler at the Israeli Jew in Vegas, and called Barney Frank a Nazi?

I suppose you're going to tell me they were Jewish? :rolleyes:

One Uncle Tom with an AR-15 (reportedly part of a right wing fringe radio "publicity stunt") doesn't negate all the other racists.

[Big Train]

And what about the cunts who yelled Heil Hitler at the Israeli Jew in Vegas, and called Barney Frank a Nazi?

I suppose you're going to tell me they were Jewish? :rolleyes:

One Uncle Tom with an AR-15 (reportedly part of a right wing fringe radio "publicity stunt") doesn't negate all the other racists.

No I'm not.

But your not going to use those examples to excuse one network of bullshit tactics while crying about another one's. Let's try some consistency.

[Blackflag]

And what about the cunts who yelled Heil Hitler at the Israeli Jew in Vegas, and called Barney Frank a Nazi?


Seriously...this from the guy who calls anybody who disagrees with him a "Nazi?" Who calls Iraelis that he disagrees with "Zionists?"

You are easily the most hypocritical person on this board. And the competition is fierce.

[sadaist]

One Uncle Tom with an AR-15


Racist much?

[jhale667]

OK, so - ONE of the what, 12(?) gun-toting idiots was merely a douchebag, as opposed to a racist douchebag like the rest.

Somebody had to be the exception to the rule. You guys are still in denial if you don't recognize that's most likely what the vast majority of this element is. And don't give me the tired 2nd-amendment rights bullshit – and once that smokescreen defense is gone you have to (and can't) answer the REAL question - what the FUCK does an AR-15 have to do with your fucking PPO? :mad:

[kwame k]

OK, so - ONE of the what, 12(?) gun-toting idiots was merely a douchebag, as opposed to a racist douchebag like the rest.

Somebody had to be the exception to the rule. You guys are still in denial if you don't recognize that's most likely what the vast majority of this element is. And don't give me the tired 2nd-amendment rights bullshit – and once that smokescreen defense is gone you have to (and can't) answer the REAL question - what the FUCK does an AR-15 have to do with your fucking PPO? :mad:

Back the fuck up Jay!































































Don't bring reasoned thought into one of these debates.....;)

[jhale667]

Yeah, I should know better by now...;)

[kwame k]

Yeah, I should know better by now...;)

.....and to think I was all in favor of you being a mod here, for shame Mr. Hale, for shame.

[sadaist]

OK, so - ONE of the what, 12(?) gun-toting idiots was merely a douchebag, as opposed to a racist douchebag like the rest.



How do you know the black man with the guns isn't a racist? How do you know the others are?

[Nickdfresh]

Racist much?

If he were in your neighborhood with an AR-15 "assault rifle" (not technically, but looks identical to the M-16A1/A2 from a distance to the untrained eye), you'd be the first to call the cops on a 'gang-banger.'

[jhale667]

.....and to think I was all in favor of you being a mod here, for shame Mr. Hale, for shame.

For that one, I should groan you twice...:lmao:

[Blackflag]

OK, so - ONE of the what, 12(?) gun-toting idiots was merely a douchebag, as opposed to a racist douchebag like the rest.

So you've determined the other 11 are racists? Based on what??

Do you realize you've become one of those guys that screams "racist" about everything? Like a little, tiny mini-me Al Sharpton. Without the sweet hairdo.

[jhale667]

How do you know the black man with the guns isn't a racist? How do you know the others are?

Let's see....did he have a "Kill Whitey" shirt on? Or was he carrying one of those stupid "Water the Tree of Liberty" signs? Don't even try it. :fufu:

[kwame k]

This thread can go in two directions at this point........

A) The racist slant that Sadist is going for.
B) Gun laws restrictions vs no restrictions.

I love the people around here, they have a very unique perspective of how Obama is not trying to take away guns but is taking all the ammo, so ya' all won't have bullets @ you're next "rally".

[Nickdfresh]

Weren't a lot of bitches here (read Sadaist) complaining about Black Panthers with "clubs" in Philly polling stations during the election?

Now imagine if these community activists had had AK-47s or Mini-14s? Oh, wait! That's their fourth amendment right!

[jhale667]

So you've determined the other 11 are racists? Based on what??

Hmm...the fact that even gun rights advocates are denouncing them...Stormfront.org is encouraging them....the fact that, probably unlike you - since I've dealt with racism on a near-daily basis until moving to LA, which means I can spot it miles in advance of bitches like you by default...don't even go there. Were these assholes showing up at Bush rallies? Exactly. STFU.



Do you realize you've become one of those guys that screams "racist" about everything? Like a little, tiny mini-me Al Sharpton. Without the sweet hairdo.

Wrong. I call it when I see it, and I'm rarely if ever wrong about it. And in fact, my hair is far cooler. Shows how much you know...:fufu:

[kwame k]

Without the sweet hairdo.

Bullshit Flag!!!!

Hale has some Don King like frizzy, curly. hippie cut going on. Get your facts straight or Step Off.....to coin a phrase.;)

[jhale667]

Weren't a lot of bitches here (read Sadaist) complaining about Black Panthers with "clubs" in Philly polling stations during the election?

Now imagine if these community activists had had AK-47s or Mini-14s? Oh, wait! That's their fourth amendment right!

See, now you're injecting logic into the debate...Kwame's gonna get us both de-modded now...:hee:

[Blackflag]

Bullshit Flag!!!!

Hale has some Don King like frizzy, curly. hippie cut going on. Get your facts straight or Step Off.....to coin a phrase.;)

Dude...have you ever seen Sharpton's hair? He has a whole bouffant (sp?) thing going on. Very fancy.... So you step off.

[Nickdfresh]

Dude...have you ever seen Sharpton's hair? He has a whole bouffant (sp?) thing going on. Very fancy.... So you step off.

I saw him at a press conference once. He's actually a funny fucking guy when the cameras are off...

[jhale667]

Dude...have you ever seen Sharpton's hair? He has a whole bouffant (sp?) thing going on. Very fancy.... So you step off.



Yeah, I got 'em both beat. Now get to steppin'.

[kwame k]

Dude...have you ever seen Sharpton's hair? He has a whole bouffant (sp?) thing going on. Very fancy.... So you step off.

Nicely played sir!




































Now Step Off, fag;)

[kwame k]

See, now you're injecting logic into the debate...Kwame's gonna get us both de-modded now...:hee:

Already on it......thinking about starting a thread in the, "Feedback Forum" to complain about you two loose cannons:hee:

[lesfunk]

I think the Black Guy with the gun might have been Claton Bigsby.

[Blackflag]

Hmm...the fact that even gun rights advocates are denouncing them...Stormfront.org is encouraging them....the fact that, probably unlike you - since I've dealt with racism on a near-daily basis until moving to LA, which means I can spot it miles in advance of bitches like you by default...don't even go there. Were these assholes showing up at Bush rallies? Exactly. STFU.

What I'm hearing you say is that you have nothing to support your accusation of racism other than an internet forum and your "intuition." Is that what it takes to be called a racist these days?

To show how baseless your accusation is, any number of the other 11 could be black, also - and you don't even know. I know you think it makes you look wise to say you live in L.A. and that I'm a bitch, but the fact is that your assertion is based in ignorance.




Wrong. I call it when I see it, and I'm rarely if ever wrong about it.

I dig that. It's like the definition of obscene art.



And in fact, my hair is far cooler. Shows how much you know...:fufu:

Nobody's hair is as cool as Sharpton's. Nobody's.

[Blackflag]

Nicely played sir!



Everybody just needs to step the hell off!! :mad0244:

[kwame k]

I think the Black Guy with the gun might have been Claton Bigsby.

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[jhale667]

What I'm hearing you say is that you have nothing to support your accusation of racism other than an internet forum and your "intuition." Is that what it takes to be called a racist these days?

Intuition, experience...what I've seen in all the major media outlets ("internet forum"...douche) CNN, MSNBC, FAUX, et al...which goes to your next stupid assertion....


To show how baseless your accusation is, any number of the other 11 could be black, also - and you don't even know. I know you think it makes you look wise to say you live in L.A. and that I'm a bitch, but the fact is that your assertion is based in ignorance.

No, yours is. Didn't you see the footage? Aside from the one black dude, and bunch of WHITE dudes standing around with guns. You fail.





Nobody's hair is as cool as Sharpton's. Nobody's.


Wrong again. You're 0 for 3....:hee:

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs135.snc1/5776_121691617245_620012245_2985659_6212866_n.jpg

To quote Ali - "I'm pretty!!!!!" :lmao:

[kwame k]

Everybody just needs to step the hell off!! :mad0244:

Haven't fucked with you since your "n" word fiasco but my Allah you need to take VALIUM or something son......you;re gonna give yourself a heart attack:)

[Blackflag]

Intuition, experience...

Hopefully you're kidding and you understand that it takes a little more than that if you're going to go around deciding who's racist and who isn't. :umm:

If not, I dub thee the forum's official 'boy who cried racist.'



To quote Ali - "I'm pretty!!!!!" :lmao:

And I stand corrected. That's quite a mop.

[Blackflag]

Haven't fucked with you since your "n" word fiasco but my Allah you need to take VALIUM or something son......you;re gonna give yourself a heart attack:)

Dude, you know how I get when you people get your p.c. assholes in a knot looking under rocks to find racism. So I'll do it again if I have to. I'm warning you now - I could use another time out.

[jhale667]

Hopefully you're kidding and you understand that it takes a little more than that if you're going to go around deciding who's racist and who isn't. :umm:

If not, I dub thee the forum's official 'boy who cried racist.'



And I stand corrected. That's quite a mop.


Told you not to go there. :hee:

First off, you call me "boy" I'll kick your ass.

And of course I do. But it's so obvious that's what this shit is even you can see it - hopefully you're just kidding around with the apologist douche trip...


Oh, and currently watching Olbermann, he just ran a story on how the token black dude is INDEED a FreedomsPhoenix/Militia/Far-right Republican plant...I'll try to find the segment and post it...

[FORD]

How do you know the black man with the guns isn't a racist? How do you know the others are?


Well, he had an AR-15 and was surrounded by a bunch of white racists. If he hated white people, it would have been the greatest opportunity of his life to mow down a few dozen of them, wouldn't you say?

No, as I said, I read somewhere that the black guy admitted to being a plant. Not from the DICK Arm(e)y like the white racists are, but from some right wing fringe radio show (not the top tier hatemongers like Mush/BecKKK/Neil Boortz/etc. but some lesser known regional guy, probably from down south. So lesser known I can't even remember the name, actually)

[Blackflag]

Oh, and currently watching Olbermann, he just ran a story on how the token black dude is INDEED a FreedomsPhoenix/Militia/Far-right Republican plant...I'll try to find the segment and post it...


Dude... it doesn't matter if you say the guy has a brain tumor, and an MRI proves you right. The assertion is bullshit. Your 'intuition' is known to the rest of the world as 'talking out of your ass.'

Boy Who Cried Racist. :fufu:

[jhale667]

Dude... it doesn't matter if you say the guy has a brain tumor, and an MRI proves you right. The assertion is bullshit. Your 'intuition' is known to the rest of the world as 'talking out of your ass.'

Boy Who Cried Racist. :fufu:


Eat a cock. And since FORD compounded your stupidity -read it again....



No, as I said, I read somewhere that the black guy admitted to being a plant. Not from the DICK Arm(e)y like the white racists are, but from some right wing fringe radio show (not the top tier hatemongers like Mush/BecKKK/Neil Boortz/etc. but some lesser known regional guy, probably from down south. So lesser known I can't even remember the name, actually)


Nope, not "talking out my ass", stupid. You FAIL. :fufu:

[Blackflag]

Well, there you have it.

Somebody read something somewhere on the internet. And you have kung-fu intuition. What else do you need? We should just wire your fucking brain up the internet, then we won't need juries anymore.

[standin]

Why would anyone think that exploiting racism (or any -ism) would not be a chess move?
By any corrupt ethnicity or being.
Racism is a tool, accept that.

[Blackflag]

I accept that you're a tool. Does that count for anything?

[jhale667]

We should just wire your fucking brain up the internet, then we won't need juries anymore.

Thought they were doing that with you first, since you know so much more than all of us rational folks...

And since you seem to have selective reading comprehension let's reiterate- it's not just something someone read on the Internet now, dummy. It's also on MSNBC, and soon the rest of the media outlets...give it up.

[jhale667]

Yeah FYI Buckfag, the group that placed this guy are the same people claiming Waco was and the OK City bombing were "manufactured events" ...anti-government freakbags (ironically, no mention of 9/11)...

[standin]

Of course I am a tool. We are all tools. It is by mercy that we are not used as tools for exploitations.

[standin]

Yeah FYI Buckfag, the group that placed this guy are the same people claiming Waco was and the OK City bombing were "manufactured events" ...anti-government freakbags (ironically, no mention of 9/11)...

It was manufactured, but not by the goverment

[jhale667]

Heavily-Armed '90s Militia, Linked To Anti-Obama Activist, Resisted 'New World Order'
By Justin Elliott

Let's delve a little bit deeper into the black helicopter-infested world of the Viper Militia -- the 90's era group whose members ended up in federal prison and whose most prominent friend and defender, Ernest Hancock, staged the show of arms-bearing at an Obama event Monday.

A portrait of a feckless group of paranoid, right-wing, minimum wage-earning weapons enthusiasts -- 10 men and two women -- emerges from press accounts at the time.

Take Dean Pleasant, the Viper member whom Hancock called his good friend in an interview with TPMmuckraker yesterday. Pleasant couldn't hold onto jobs at Kathy's Donut Farm (too "lackadaisical," even though he always brought his Glock to work) or a part-time gig at military supply store Allied Surplus (where he was caught stealing "inexpensive items").

Others made a living with maintenance work and used furniture sales. They had formed a clique of like-minded gun enthusiasts with the name SHF -- Suicidal Hippie Fucks -- and even had t-shirts made with an SHF logo, according to contemporaneous press accounts.

None of which sounds so scary, until you consider the group's stockpile of
unregistered submachine guns, over 500 pounds of ammonium nitrate fertilizer, an "adapter for a grenade launcher," a riot smoke grenade, dynamite, detonation cord, gas masks, body armor, a machine gun, 550-yard range rockets, and how-to manuals for grenade launchers and propellants.

All of that was seized by the Feds, noted in inventory lists submitted in court, and reported by the press at the time. And keep in mind, the case was unfolding soon after the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, which killed 168 people.

The federal probe into the Vipers started when a deer hunter reported an encounter with a group of camouflage-clad, heavily-armed men in Tonto National Forest north of Phoenix.

An informant infiltrated and secretly taped the Vipers, who were committed to resisting the "New World Order." He participated in a session in which militia members detonated explosives and used illegal automatic weapons in the desert outside Phoenix. The group members took an oath to "enter into mortal combat against enemies of the U.S. Constitution."

The Vipers were arrested in July 1996.

They were initially charged with plotting to blow up government buildings around Phoenix. But the charges were reduced to various firearms and explosive charges. At the same time the charges were reduced, the AP noted in October 1996, "A videotape showing militia members touring federal buildings in Phoenix and allegedly explaining how to destroy them already has been withdrawn by prosecutors after defense lawyers noted that it was made in 1994, before most of the Vipers even knew one another."

Ultimately, 11 of the Vipers were sentenced to prison terms ranging from one to six years.

Like today's gun-wielding anti-Obama protesters, the Vipers feared government encroachment by a Democratic president The father of a one militia member recalled him saying, "You should be happy you won't be around in 30 years. The way we're going, we've got to stop it. I hope we'll change presidents and stop the One World Order."

Sometimes the militia members' paranoia degenerated into anti-Semitism. One Viper Militiaman "would talk about conspiracy theories behind gun control laws, and how the world was being run financially by this secret conspiracy composed of Jews," recalled a former teacher of his from a Phoenix weapons academy.

Libertarian Reason magazine published a lengthy piece in late 1996 arguing the charges against the Vipers were overblown.

"These guys were more likely to show up late for a shooting match than to blow up buildings," the chair of the Arizona Libertarian Party told the Philadelphia Inquirer in 1996. "It's a Keystone Kops kind of thing."

Anti-Obama activist Ernest Hancock, who helped run a Web site, the Viper Reserves, dedicated to defending the Viper Militia and getting their story out (see a cached version here) was quoted in the same story. He told the Inquirer: "These people were really, really, really ready to go up against the federal government," he said. "Were they actually going to do it? No."

Feel better?


Heavily-Armed '90s Militia, Linked To Anti-Obama Activist, Resisted 'New World Order' | TPMMuckraker (http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/heavily_armed_militia_defended_by_activist_resiste d_new_world_order.php?ref=m1)

[standin]

Waco was a terrible tragedy. So was Ruby Ridge.
Exploitations of systematic events. One of the lowest common denominators.
But to think that only government can have conspiracies is silly.

[standin]

When I hear "New World Order", it reminds me of the Jehovah Wittinesses

[sadaist]

If he were in your neighborhood with an AR-15 "assault rifle" (not technically, but looks identical to the M-16A1/A2 from a distance to the untrained eye), you'd be the first to call the cops on a 'gang-banger.'


I would call the police immediately if I saw any person in my neighborhood with an assault rifle. It is illegal in CA.

[sadaist]

Let's see....did he have a "Kill Whitey" shirt on? Don't even try it. :fufu:

So you can only tell a racist if they wear a shirt proclaiming it? Were the other racists (according to you) wearing "Kill N-words" shirts?

[sadaist]

A) The racist slant that Sadist is going for.



Like when I posted that the man with the gun was an "Uncle Tom"? (FORD)

Or maybe when I claimed he was the only one of the gun carriers that wasn't a racist? (JHale667)

Get your facts straight there. I did not bring the racism into this thread. I merely pointed it out.




One Uncle Tom with an AR-15


OK, so - ONE of the what, 12(?) gun-toting idiots was merely a douchebag, as opposed to a racist douchebag like the rest.

[jhale667]

So you can only tell a racist if they wear a shirt proclaiming it? Were the other racists (according to you) wearing "Kill N-words" shirts?

You're an idiot. No, usually they're blabbing about it too, or defending pukes like them...you know, your shtick. ;) But you don't get it (much like a neutered dog).

Gonna go with FORD on this one...had the black dude been a racist - his target would have been the crowd. But turns out he's just a dick.

The others on the other hand...not the case, nor would not be overt in the first place. What you don't get, is this is about the implied threat more then actually acting on it (at this point). Watch some footage of 60s civil rights marches. The ones before they set the dogs and water hoses on the crowds.

The implied message being "keep in line or else". You guys aren't really that thick, c'mon. What the fuck else do you think when you see guys not only with signs of the president done up as Hitler, but with guns???


It's disturbing and sickening to see. You know, unless you're into that kind of shit. :fufu:

[Blackflag]

Dude, do you need a rag to wipe your pussy with? It was a guy on the street with a rifle. Get over it.

[Jesus Christ]

What thy right wing Pharisees are doing at these gatherings reminds Me a lot of what the right wing Pharisees did the day I stood before the crowd on Pontius Pilate's balcony, and he told them to choose between Me and Barrabas. And verily the Pharisees moved among the crowd, inciting them to yell "Give us Barrabas". And lo, many of the crowd did, though they really did not know why. Such is the nature of mob mentality among mortals. I told Dad we needed to take that "feature" out of thy brain design.

End result of this, ye may remember, was not good for My health. And verily today's Pharisees want to make sure it is not good for yours.

[sadaist]

You're an idiot. No, usually they're blabbing about it too, or defending pukes like them...you know, your shtick. ;) But you don't get it (much like a neutered dog).

Gonna go with FORD on this one...had the black dude been a racist - his target would have been the crowd. But turns out he's just a dick.

The others on the other hand...not the case, nor would not be overt in the first place. What you don't get, is this is about the implied threat more then actually acting on it (at this point). Watch some footage of 60s civil rights marches. The ones before they set the dogs and water hoses on the crowds.

The implied message being "keep in line or else". You guys aren't really that thick, c'mon. What the fuck else do you think when you see guys not only with signs of the president done up as Hitler, but with guns???


It's disturbing and sickening to see. You know, unless you're into that kind of shit. :fufu:


That's deep man.

But answer the question. How do you know this man is not racist? You stated it. All you saw was a 30 second clip of him on television and his words were unintelligible. Come one...come on. Just say it. Nah, you don't have to. I already know. Was just seeing if you had the brass to actually admit it.

[jhale667]

That's deep man.

But answer the question.

Already did. Not sure what else you're hoping I'm gonna say.

What was his agenda, was he trying to intimidate the crowd? Anything to support that? Nope. His affiliations (and the fact that he was a plant) have already been outlined, and gee, looks like he hangs out with a (obviously racially-tolerant) Anti-Government Militia...probably in the 21 JumpStreet division....who knew?

And how the fuck do you know how much I saw? Were you channel-flipping with me, jackass? :D

[hideyoursheep]

Dude, do you need a rag to wipe your pussy with? It was a guy on the street with a rifle. Get over it.


Was he going to the bank?

[Big Train]

I think what is getting lost here (and the reason I chose to post this), is that you have a major news network presenting the news one way (showing the man and his ethnic makeup...whether he is a "plant" or not, which is the standard lame defense around here) and another network not showing the man at all and yet saying that the man's presence could have "possible racist overtones".

I'm still waiting for someone to defend that on a logical basis.

[ZahZoo]

I thought it was a nice touch planting the black man with the assault rifle in the crowd...

The thing that made me suspect a plant was the way he was dressed in slacks, a white dress shirt and tie. It just didn't fit right... Although probably a good choice to project less than a threatening image given the event and security levels.

I'm still don't like the idea of people packing heat at political protests even though it was perfectly legal in this case... 2nd ammendment is one thing, stupid is another.

That's like taking Lounge Machine & Ford to a Mentapausal Sensitivity Training Seminar... perfectly legal just not a very wise choice...

[Big Train]

This "plant" business is a side note at best.

But on that note, who and where is this "Plant" from and what does it accomplish?

Standard, "Faux News" types would think only one way, that Republicans put him there to stir up the pot.

But there is a flip side to consider. Having a "Crazed gun man" there increases support by those very same "Faux News" believers, that the racist rednecks we are smarter than are here. So let's vote on this horribly thought out and executed health care reform since these dumb rednecks are here to disrupt and question our leader, who has it all figured out, which is why they are mad.

[ELVIS]

Was he going to the bank?

Please remove that signature quote, because I don't, and have never meant it in the way you're quoting it...

[Nickdfresh]

Dude, do you need a rag to wipe your pussy with? It was a guy on the street with a rifle. Get over it.

Yeah. A military one originally, specifically, and ergonomically designed to kill people by soldiers who had little training...

[Nickdfresh]

I would call the police immediately if I saw any person in my neighborhood with an assault rifle. It is illegal in CA.

Sadie, why do you hate the Constitution? Next thing you know, you'll be kicking in people's doors at midnight!

[sadaist]

Sadie, why do you hate the Constitution? Next thing you know, you'll be kicking in people's doors at midnight!

Following the law = Constitution hating how?

I own four firearms myself. You can see them in a thread I started some time ago. While I may not agree with some of the laws surrounding them, I do abide by them.

Sometimes it's difficult since I now drive a pickup. I used to be able to drive to the range with the my own ammo in the trunk of my car. But now with no trunk I can't take my own ammunition and have to purchase from the range. I also have to trigger lock and case lock each gun for the ride. Don't mind having them locked up, but the ammo from the range is typically a ripoff. (Ammunition must be kept separated from the weapons. Not within same compartment)

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/non-vh-dlr-related-stuff/53779-guns-firearms-weaponry.html

[Satan]

Following the law = Constitution hating how?

I own four firearms myself. You can see them in a thread I started some time ago. While I may not agree with some of the laws surrounding them, I do abide by them.

Sometimes it's difficult since I now drive a pickup. I used to be able to drive to the range with the my own ammo in the trunk of my car. But now with no trunk I can't take my own ammunition and have to purchase from the range. I also have to trigger lock and case lock each gun for the ride. Don't mind having them locked up, but the ammo from the range is typically a ripoff. (Ammunition must be kept separated from the weapons. Not within same compartment)

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/non-vh-dlr-related-stuff/53779-guns-firearms-weaponry.html

Ever consider buying something like this?

truck tool box by Delta (http://www.pickuptrucktoolboxes.com/tool-box-Delta-heavy-aluminum.htm)

[sadaist]

Ever consider buying something like this?

truck tool box by Delta (http://www.pickuptrucktoolboxes.com/tool-box-Delta-heavy-aluminum.htm)

Totally. But with the work I currently do, a toolbox won't fit back there. Dang, they got some nice ones too. Better than the ones I've seen at Auto Zone.

[ULTRAMAN VH]

I think what is getting lost here (and the reason I chose to post this), is that you have a major news network presenting the news one way (showing the man and his ethnic makeup...whether he is a "plant" or not, which is the standard lame defense around here) and another network not showing the man at all and yet saying that the man's presence could have "possible racist overtones".

I'm still waiting for someone to defend that on a logical basis.

Um yeah, basically Contessa Brewer and MSNBC fretted over healthcare reform protesters legally carrying guns.
: 'A man at a pro-health care reform rally... wore a semiautomatic assault rifle on his shoulder and a pistol on his hip....there are questions about whether this has racial overtones....white people showing up with guns.'

Brewer, conveniently failed to mention this man was black. :umm:

[jhale667]

Um yeah, basically Contessa Brewer and MSNBC fretted over healthcare reform protesters legally carrying guns.
: 'A man at a pro-health care reform rally... wore a semiautomatic assault rifle on his shoulder and a pistol on his hip....there are questions about whether this has racial overtones....white people showing up with guns.'

Brewer, conveniently failed to mention this man was black. :umm:

One of the dozen or so was.

Again, what does a gun have to do with your HMO or PPO?

Y'know, unless you show up at the hospital because you got SHOT??

[Blackflag]

Again, what does a gun have to do with your HMO or PPO?

For that matter, what does a gun have to do with being racist?

[jhale667]

For that matter, what does a gun have to do with being racist?

For starters, they need them to protect themselves us the upcoming "race-war", remember? ;)

[Blackflag]

For starters, they need them to protect themselves us the upcoming "race-war", remember? ;)

Who is "they?"

Admit the news report was fucked up.

[jhale667]

Admit the news report was fucked up.

In that the plant guy should have been fully shown? No doubt. Stupid on MSNBC's part, actually - because (especially once you know where he came from) it didn't lessen the disgust factor at all...towards him or the others there. Anyone there with a gun that wasn't a cop or a secret service agent is a fucking douche, regardless of their color. And you know that.

But don't try to tell me the white guys showing up with guns and "vote from the rooftops" and "water the tree of liberty" T-shirts aren't at least primarily racist asshats on a fear and itimidation campaign (at the very least). No, they're Obama fans....sure.....:fufu:

Showing the solitary armed black dude there wouldn't have and didn't lessen the chance the rest of those jackasses weren't merely 2nd amendment enthusiasts either (fucking please....) in the slightest.

[FORD]

For starters, they need them to protect themselves us the upcoming "race-war", remember? ;)

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[Big Train]

In that the plant guy should have been fully shown? No doubt. Stupid on MSNBC's part, actually - because (especially once you know where he came from) it didn't lessen the disgust factor at all...towards him or the others there. [/U].

So your perception of it was that they made a STUPID but not INTENTIONAL choice?

[jhale667]

So your perception of it was that they made a STUPID but not INTENTIONAL choice?

No, more like it was intentional and stupid. Pay attention. :tongue0011:

[Big Train]

I don't pay attention to bullshit...but just wanted to confirm. When you don't use the word intentional, which means something different than stupid, one has to ask you to clear it up.

Thanks.

[jhale667]

I don't pay attention to bullshit...

He said, while answering the very post he's trying to imply is bullshit...:hee:


but just wanted to confirm. When you don't use the word intentional, which means something different than stupid, one has to ask you to clear it up.

Thanks.

How much more clear did I need to be? Did anyone besides you think I somehow implied they "accidentally" didn't show the guy? :rolleyes: I mean, c'mon.

I said it was stupid on their part...it was. That's the kind of crap you'd expect from Fox, but thought a little better of MSNBC. As I said, not like they even "needed" to do it...

[Big Train]

Asking for clarity that's all.

Hoping you can do that someday without ruining your Huggies every single time.

[ULTRAMAN VH]

Plant???? If anyone planted anything, it was the news media planting this stupid ass story. I would guarantee these so called armed white racist's led by the mysterious Lone Black Man were no where near the President. The Secret Service would have taken down these individuals faster than a jack rabbit on a date. The news media, especially the Leftys will do anything they can to label citizens who have had enough of the Government interfering in their lives, as angry out of control gun toting maniacs. MSNBC even went so far as to edit the footage of the armed black man distorting him to the point where you could not determine his race. U.S. Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan was asked if anyone openly carrying a weapon outside the event was a threat to the president's safety and he responded "Of course not".

[Blackflag]

But don't try to tell me the white guys showing up with guns and "vote from the rooftops" and "water the tree of liberty" T-shirts aren't at least primarily racist asshats on a fear and itimidation campaign (at the very least). No, they're Obama fans....sure.....:fufu:

But a black guy who does exactly the same things is not racist? And a white guy who wears a "water the tree of liberty shirt" is automatically a racist? Do you not understand the difference between homicidal and racist? Do you think they're the same thing? Is that the problem?

You should just hang it up, you make about as much sense as Ford. He sees BCE everywhere and you rant about racism everywhere. I'm sorry, but get a fucking clue. Seriously.

I know you love to say you currently live in L.A., but you were obviously born in the sticks. You don't have a clue what racism is, and you think like a hayseed.

:)

[jhale667]

I know you love to say you currently live in L.A., but you were obviously born in the sticks. You don't have a clue what racism is, and you think like a hayseed.




Nope, just used to dealing with hayseed fucks like you, Dr. Fail. :fufu:

[Blackflag]

Nope, just used to dealing with hayseed fucks like you, Dr. Fail. :fufu:

(i.e. you don't dispute you were born in the sticks.)

[standin]

You hate country folks and small towns, now? Then quit eating most all food and quit listening to lot of music. That is a lot of people you don't like right there, Blackie.

[Blackflag]

Stick your greasy food and country music in your asshole.

[standin]

that is your sorts never a fence too small to contain you. and what you came to know from your introductions. If that is all you saw, you didn't see anything.
But I have no doubt on WHY you was excluded, blackie

[jhale667]

(i.e. you don't dispute you were born in the sticks.)

Dispute it? Spent the first 20 years of my life tryin' to get away from that shit, it's well-documented.

I can still spot it a mile away.


Still probably beat growing up in Yakima, though...

[sadaist]

which means I can spot it miles in advance of bitches like you by default.




I can still spot it a mile away.



You have said that a few times here. The problem with statements like that is they are bigoted generalizations, stereotyping, & racial.

"I can spot a (insert any derogatory term here...gay, thief, liar, criminal, pedo, cheater, slut, illegal alien, drug user, alcoholic, etc...) a mile away". Impossible to spot the content of a mans character from a mile away.

[Blackflag]

Dispute it? Spent the first 20 years of my life tryin' to get away from that shit, it's well-documented.

I can still spot it a mile away.


Still probably beat growing up in Yakima, though...

If I had been born in Yakima, I'd be saying ignorant shit like 'I know it when I see it,' and 'I can spot that type of person from a mile away.' But that's a redneck mentality.

Tell us what sticks you were raised in so we can close the book on your ignorant shit.

[standin]

Blackie, why not start with the small town of Waukesha, Wisconsin. And tell us how ignorant everyone there is.

[jhale667]

You have said that a few times here. The problem with statements like that is they are bigoted generalizations, stereotyping, & racial.

"I can spot a (insert any derogatory term here...gay, thief, liar, criminal, pedo, cheater, slut, illegal alien, drug user, alcoholic, etc...) a mile away". Impossible to spot the content of a mans character from a mile away.


Well, considering I didn't imply I meant from whites only, not sure where you'd get "racial" from it, but OK. I can see where at face value, it may sound like a generalization (especially when you insert terminology I didn't).
You know how when you walk in a bar, you can automatically tell which dudes are there basically to start a fight? I'm talking that kind of vibe, and yes, you can spot it a mile away, sorry....mostly because you can tell they want to start a fight with you...



Tell us what sticks you were raised in so we can close the book on your ignorant shit.

By that logic, you should've been prevented from posting here years ago...:hee:

[Blackflag]

Well, considering I didn't imply I meant from whites only, not sure where you'd get "racial" from it, but OK.

You said the black guy wasn't a racist, but his white cohorts were racists.



You know how when you walk in a bar, you can automatically tell which dudes are there basically to start a fight? I'm talking that kind of vibe, and yes, you can spot it a mile away, sorry....mostly because you can tell they want to start a fight with you...


I'm going to guess Oklahoma. :hee:

[jhale667]

I'm going to guess Oklahoma. :hee:


Not even close. And how many times have a told you about fantasizing about me? :turninggay:


:guitar:

[hideyoursheep]

Please remove that signature quote, because I don't, and have never meant it in the way you're quoting it...

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[hideyoursheep]

If I had been born in Yakima, I'd be saying ignorant shit like 'I know it when I see it,' and 'I can spot that type of person from a mile away.' But that's a redneck mentality.

Tell us what sticks you were raised in so we can close the book on your ignorant shit.

Look at you. :rolleyes:


Fishing for personal info because YOU GOT NOTHING!!

And before I make you my permanent biatch, stop pretending you're smart.
Yakima is hardly a major metropolis, and it's even lesser known for being the epicenter of intelligence as it allows you to remain a resident, so STFU.

[FORD]

Fuck off GAyR

[sadaist]

Bomb took off right arm in 2005. Bomb in August 2009 took off left arm. He told that he too would not stand for theesa racist attacks

Good thing the bombs took his arms & not his legs...or he wouldn't be standing for anything.

[FORD]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b9/Mr.hat.jpg
Oh my God, Mr. Hat! It's a real life retarded fish-frog!!