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  • Full Bug
    Crazy Ass Mofo
    • Jan 2004
    • 2915

    Lockerbie Bomber Hailed As Hero In Tripoli

    Lockerbie Bomber Hailed As Hero In Tripoli

    Abdel Baset al-Megrahi Released On Compassionate Grounds; Scottish Government Under Fire From All Over Globe


    "This is absolutely ludicrous and insane," said Bert Ammermann, whose brother was killed on the PanAm flight.

    To many, Abdel Baset al-Megrahi ascending the stairs of an Airbus jet for the flight back to Libya represents either a miscarriage of justice or the death of the truth in the 1988 terrorist bombing over Lockerbie, Scotland.

    "Compassion and mercy are about upholding the beliefs that we seek to live by remaining true to our values of the people, no matter the severity of the provocation or the atrocity perpetrated," said Kenny MacAskill, Scotland's Justice Secretary.

    The Associated Press reported thousands greeted al-Megrahi warmly when his plane from Scotland touched down at a military airport in Tripoli. Reports cited a festive atmosphere at the scene with some wearing t-shirts with al-Megrahi's picture. Others waved Libyan and Scottish flags while Libyan songs blared.

    "To sit there and watch a victory convoy going to the airport … this is absolutely ludicrous and insane," said Ammermann. "We couldn't finish with even one individual? That he finished his life and his body was sent back? State terrorism won today. Big business won today."

    The White House said it "deeply regrets" the Scottish decision, and U.S. family members immediately expressed outrage.

    Al-Megrahi, who had served only eight years of his life sentence, was recently given only months to live after being diagnosed with advanced prostate cancer. His time served amounts to about two weeks in prison for every person he killed.

    Al-Megrahi has never expressed remorse for the attack, an in fact insists he had nothing to do with it. Many in the United Kingdom seem to agree and applaud the release.

    "I am pleased for him because I am 85 percent convinced that he is not guilty, having sat through the whole trial in Holland, 10 months," said Rev. John Mosey, whose daughter was killed in the attack.

    MacAskill said although al-Megrahi had not shown compassion to his victims - many of whom were American college students flying home to New York for Christmas - MacAskill was motivated by Scottish values to show mercy.

    "In Scotland, we define ourselves by our humanity," MacAskill said. "Mr. al-Megrahi did not show his victims any comfort or compassion."

    "That alone is not a reason to deny compassion to him and his family in his final days. Our justice system demands that justice be imposed but compassion be available. Our beliefs dictate that justice be shown and mercy be served," MacAskill said.

    "Some hurts can never heal, some scars can never fade," MacAskill said. "Those who have been bereaved cannot be expected to forget, let alone forgive ... However, Mr. al-Megrahi now faces a sentence imposed by a higher power."

    Al-Megrahi, 57, was convicted in 2001 of taking part in the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 on Dec. 21, 1988. He was sentenced to life in prison. The airliner exploded over Scotland, and all 259 people aboard and 11 on the ground died when it crashed into the town of Lockerbie.

    The former Libyan intelligence officer was sentenced to serve a minimum of 27 years in a Scottish prison for Britain's deadliest terrorist attack. But a 2007 review of his case found grounds for an appeal of his conviction, and many in Britain believe he is innocent.

    White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said the U.S. expressed its opposition to the decision "in the strongest terms possible," reports CBS News White House correspondent Mark Knoller.

    "We continue to believe that Megrahi should serve out his sentence in Scotland," Gibbs said. "On this day, we extend our deepest sympathies to the families who live every day with the loss of their loved ones."

    A White House official tells CBS News that Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Attorney General Eric Holder were among those to directly convey to the U.K. and to Scottish authorities the view al-Megrahi should serve out his term in Scotland, reports CBS News White House correspondent Peter Maer.

    MacAskill said he stood by al-Megrahi's conviction and the sentence for "the worst terrorist atrocity ever committed on U.K. soil."

    He said he ruled out sending the bomber back to Libya under a prisoner-transfer agreement, saying the U.S. victims had been given assurances that al-Megrahi would serve out his sentence in Scotland.

    But he said that as a prisoner given less than three months to live by doctors, al-Megrahi was eligible for compassionate release.

    "I am conscious that there are deeply held feelings and many will disagree whatever my decision," he said. "However, a decision has to be made."

    The families of some American victims lashed out.

    "I think it's appalling, disgusting and so sickening I can hardly find words to describe it," said Susan Cohen of Cape May Court House, N.J., whose 20-year-old daughter, Theodora, died in the attack. "This isn't about compassionate release. This is part of give-Gadhafi-what-he-wants-so-we-can-have-the-oil."

    "I don't understand how the Scots can show compassion. It's an utter insult and utterly disgusting," said Kara Weipz, of Mt. Laurel, New Jersey, whose 20-year-old brother Richard Monetti was on board Pan Am Flight 103. "It's horrible. I don't show compassion for someone who showed no remorse."

    The Times of London reported Thursday that the private jet of Libya's leader, Moammar Gadhafi, was to collect al-Megrahi at Glasgow Airport after he was released.

    Al-Megrahi's trial and conviction led to a major shift in Libya's relationship with the West.

    Gadhafi engineered a rapprochement with his former critics following the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. He renounced terrorism, dismantled Libya's secret nuclear program, accepted his government's responsibility for the Lockerbie bombing and paid compensation to the victims' families.

    Western energy companies - including Britain's BP PLC - have moved into Libya in an effort to tap the country's vast oil and gas wealth.

    Gadhafi has lobbied for the return of al-Megrahi, an issue which took on an added sense of urgency when he was diagnosed with cancer last year. His lawyers say his condition is deteriorating and doctors have given him less than three months to live.

    The question of freeing al-Megrahi has divided Lockerbie families, with many in Britain in favor of setting him free and many in the U.S. adamantly opposed.

    British Rev. John Mosey, whose daughter Helga, 19, died in the attack, said Wednesday he would be glad to see al-Megrahi return home.

    "It is right he should go home to die in dignity with his family. I believe it is our Christian duty to show mercy," he said.
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  • Full Bug
    Crazy Ass Mofo
    • Jan 2004
    • 2915

    #2
    Raging against Pan Am bomber's freedom -- for a victim


    Maybe it's because I'm of Scottish descent that I feel so ashamed today. Maybe it's because I have a hard time connecting the dots when discussions about terrorists revolve around the word "compassion" rather than "justice."

    Or maybe it's because I personally knew Hanne-Marie Maijala that I'm shaking with rage as I type these words.

    Hanne-Marie Maijala was brilliant and beautiful and kindhearted. We're supposed to speak well of the dead. I've never bought into such phoniness, yet, in Hanne-Marie's case, she embodied all those qualities and more.

    We both attended Lawrence Park Collegiate Institute in north Toronto -- the class of '81. If anything, I wish I had gotten to know Hanne-Marie better. I wish I would've had the chutzpah to ask her out on a date. But the fact of the matter is Hanne-Marie was way, way out of my league. So, aside from meaningless chitchat in the hallways, I had to admire Hanne-Marie from afar.

    And there was much to admire. Hanne-Marie was a unique specimen indeed -- brains and beauty, wit and grace. When she graduated from LPCI, she went on to Harvard. Things came so easy for Hanne-Marie.

    But on Dec. 21, 1988, Hanne-Marie boarded Pan Am flight 103 for what would become an abbreviated one-way trip. Pan Am 103 blew up over Lockerbie, Scotland, and 259 passengers and crew members plus 11 people on the ground died. It ranks as one of the deadliest terrorist attacks in history.

    A piece of filth called Abdel Basset Ali al-Megrahi was finally convicted in 2001 for his role in the bombing. He's never shown an ounce of remorse.

    And yet, in a shockingly inexplicable ruling, Scotland's justice secretary, Kenny MacAskill, gave al-Megrahi a Get-Out-of-Jail-Free card. The 57-year-old former Libyan intelligence agent is suffering from terminal prostate cancer and MacAskill decided to free him for "compassionate" reasons.

    Does MacAskill even know the meaning of the word "compassion"? Has he spoken to the 270 families that had to bury their loved ones thanks to al-Megrahi's atrocity? What "compassion" did al-Megrahi show for his innocent victims when he vaporized them?

    If anything, al-Megrahi lucked out on in terms of geography. If Pan Am 103 had crashed in, say, Laredo, Texas as opposed to Lockerbie, Scotland, he would've received the long needle years ago.

    We'll never be able to prevent acts of terrorism. New York. Bali. Mumbai. The list goes on.

    But what we can control is our response to terrorism. Which is to say we shouldn't show terrorists or rogue nations "compassion." Rather, we respond with deadly force.

    The success of such a tactic is, ironically, Libya itself.

    In 1986, the U.S. had had enough of the "Mad Dog of the Middle East," Muammar Gaddafi. Tripoli was bombed. Gaddafi escaped harm, but his 15-month-old adopted daughter was killed and two of his sons were injured (please bear with me as I wipe a tear from my cheek; oh, never mind -- it was just a raindrop).

    But the bombing made for a profound wakeup call. Only after Mo experienced some home grown suffering did he realize dispatching agents to blow up planes and discos was wrong.

    Eventually, Libya stopped sponsoring terrorists and paid out $1.5 billion in compensation to victims. Apparently you can teach an old mad dog new tricks.

    Indeed, terrorists understand lethal force. Naively showing them "compassion" will contribute more to our undoing than all of their bombs combined.

    I don't know what Hanne-Marie Maijala would say about al-Megrahi's early release if she were alive today. After all, unlike al-Megrahi, she and 269 other victims, will never get a second chance.

    As for the Libyan-bound mass-murderer, all one can hope for at this stage is that his battle with cancer will be a long, drawn-out affair. And an excruciatingly painful one at that.
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    • Full Bug
      Crazy Ass Mofo
      • Jan 2004
      • 2915

      #3
      This is unreal, this judge needs to be locked up himself, what a disgrace.....
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      • fryingdutchman
        Full Member Status

        • Feb 2005
        • 4132

        #4
        Yup.

        Nice to see Libya showing its true colors again. They've been dormant for a long time, but it just goes to show that they're the same piece of shit terrorist country that they've always been.

        Seshmeister needs to weigh in here on just what the FUCK is going on in Scotland.
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        fryingdutchman you pretty much own everyone.....sick comebacks, well put. top class wit.

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        • ULTRAMAN VH
          Commando
          • May 2004
          • 1480

          #5
          And what kind of message does this send to terrorists? Basically you can get away with murder. Where is the compassion for the 279 passengers, mostly college kids who will never celebrate another Christmas, never take another college exam, never graduate, never move on to careers and start family's of their own. It is a sad day.

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          • Full Bug
            Crazy Ass Mofo
            • Jan 2004
            • 2915

            #6
            Originally posted by fryingdutchman
            Seshmeister needs to weigh in here on just what the FUCK is going on in Scotland.
            Yup, been waiting, SESH needs to answer for his country......
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            • Nickdfresh
              SUPER MODERATOR

              • Oct 2004
              • 49136

              #7
              WTF is wrong with them for letting this cunt go? He has cancer? Motherfuck him and his cancer!! I knew a girl who died on that plane... Motherfuckers!!!

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              • twonabomber
                formerly F A T
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Jan 2004
                • 11191

                #8
                woulda been funny to see the plane and tarmac explode when that fucker got off the plane.
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                • VanHalener
                  ROCKSTAR

                  • Nov 2006
                  • 5451

                  #9
                  Originally posted by twonabomber
                  woulda been funny to see the plane and tarmac explode when that fucker got off the plane.
                  Now THAT my friend I would buy tickets to and sit way back in the lawn seats enjoying the smell of burning flesh as I sip on a nice wine from France.
                  ~Only you can prevent low volume~

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                  • sadaist
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 11625

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                    Motherfuck him and his cancer!! I knew a girl who died on that plane...
                    Truly sorry to hear that man. Thoughts to you. And she did not get to come home to a hero's welcome. Makes me fucking sick. Showing him compassion? We did that by not allowing the friends & families of the fallen to get their hands on him.

                    I don't remember exactly, but why did we agree for him to be tried in Scotland rather than the States?
                    “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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                    • jhale667
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 20929

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                      WTF is wrong with them for letting this cunt go? He has cancer? Motherfuck him and his cancer!! I knew a girl who died on that plane... Motherfuckers!!!
                      Sorry to hear that.

                      I agree, though - what was the problem, why couldn't he continue to rot in jail, just because he's terminally ill? The prison hospital wasn't good enough?
                      Originally posted by conmee
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                      That is all.

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                      Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
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                      Originally posted by Isaac R.
                      Then it's really true??:eek:

                      The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                      OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                      Originally posted by eddie78
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                      • FORD
                        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 58759

                        #12
                        Originally posted by sadaist
                        I don't remember exactly, but why did we agree for him to be tried in Scotland rather than the States?
                        Uh, because that's where the crime took place?
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                        • sadaist
                          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 11625

                          #13
                          Originally posted by FORD
                          Uh, because that's where the crime took place?
                          But the majority of the people were Americans...and the flight originated from Britain. Yes the plane came down in Scotland. I remember there being some hub bub about which of the 3 countries would get the case. I'll have to look it up.
                          “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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                          • sadaist
                            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 11625

                            #14
                            Here is a pretty good summary of the case. Doesn't dive into the politics of deciding where he would be tried as deep as I'd like to see, but does discuss it.

                            The American Society of International Law ASIL Insights - A Preview of the Lockerbie Case
                            “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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                            • WARF
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 15318

                              #15
                              He was freed on compassionate grounds by the Scottish government?!?!

                              I didn't see any fucking compassion for the 270 passengers that lost their lives!

                              I hope Satan leaves Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill, a spot open in hell next to al-Megrahi for issuing his release... and his so-called Scottish values!!

                              Fuck the both of them!

                              Get the flames ready satan!!

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