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  • mwsully
    Groupie
    • May 2004
    • 77

    Beating a dead horse here, but great article nonetheless.

    Larry Flynt: Common Sense 2009

    Common Sense 2009

    The American government -- which we once called our government -- has been taken over by Wall Street, the mega-corporations and the super-rich. They are the ones who decide our fate. It is this group of powerful elites, the people President Franklin D. Roosevelt called "economic royalists," who choose our elected officials -- indeed, our very form of government. Both Democrats and Republicans dance to the tune of their corporate masters. In America, corporations do not control the government. In America, corporations are the government.

    This was never more obvious than with the Wall Street bailout, whereby the very corporations that caused the collapse of our economy were rewarded with taxpayer dollars. So arrogant, so smug were they that, without a moment's hesitation, they took our money -- yours and mine -- to pay their executives multimillion-dollar bonuses, something they continue doing to this very day. They have no shame. They don't care what you and I think about them. Henry Kissinger refers to us as "useless eaters."

    But, you say, we have elected a candidate of change. To which I respond: Do these words of President Obama sound like change?

    "A culture of irresponsibility took root, from Wall Street to Washington to Main Street."
    There it is. Right there. We are Main Street. We must, according to our president, share the blame. He went on to say: "And a regulatory regime basically crafted in the wake of a 20th-century economic crisis -- the Great Depression -- was overwhelmed by the speed, scope and sophistication of a 21st-century global economy."

    This is nonsense.

    The reason Wall Street was able to game the system the way it did -- knowing that they would become rich at the expense of the American people (oh, yes, they most certainly knew that) -- was because the financial elite had bribed our legislators to roll back the protections enacted after the Stock Market Crash of 1929.

    Congress gutted the Glass-Steagall Act, which separated commercial lending banks from investment banks, and passed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which allowed for self-regulation with no oversight. The Securities and Exchange Commission subsequently revised its rules to allow for even less oversight -- and we've all seen how well that worked out. To date, no serious legislation has been offered by the Obama administration to correct these problems.

    Instead, Obama wants to increase the oversight power of the Federal Reserve. Never mind that it already had significant oversight power before our most recent economic meltdown, yet failed to take action. Never mind that the Fed is not a government agency but a cartel of private bankers that cannot be held accountable by Washington. Whatever the Fed does with these supposed new oversight powers will be behind closed doors.

    Obama's failure to act sends one message loud and clear: He cannot stand up to the powerful Wall Street interests that supplied the bulk of his campaign money for the 2008 election. Nor, for that matter, can Congress, for much the same reason.

    Consider what multibillionaire banker David Rockefeller wrote in his 2002 memoirs:

    "Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure -- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."


    Read Rockefeller's words again. He actually admits to working against the "best interests of the United States."


    Need more? Here's what Rockefeller said in 1994 at a U.N. dinner: "We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis, and the nations will accept the New World Order." They're gaming us. Our country has been stolen from us.

    Journalist Matt Taibbi, writing in Rolling Stone, notes that esteemed economist John Kenneth Galbraith laid the 1929 crash at the feet of banking giant Goldman Sachs. Taibbi goes on to say that Goldman Sachs has been behind every other economic downturn as well, including the most recent one. As if that wasn't enough, Goldman Sachs even had a hand in pushing gas prices up to $4 a gallon.

    The problem with bankers is longstanding. Here's what one of our Founding Fathers, Thomas Jefferson, had to say about them:

    "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation, and then by deflation, the banks and the corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their father's conquered."


    We all know that the first American Revolution officially began in 1776, with the Declaration of Independence. Less well known is that the single strongest motivating factor for revolution was the colonists' attempt to free themselves from the Bank of England. But how many of you know about the second revolution, referred to by historians as Shays' Rebellion? It took place in 1786-87, and once again the banks were the cause. This time they were putting the screws to America's farmers.

    Daniel Shays was a farmer in western Massachusetts. Like many other farmers of the day, he was being driven into bankruptcy by the banks' predatory lending practices. (Sound familiar?) Rallying other farmers to his side, Shays led his rebels in an attack on the courts and the local armory. The rebellion itself failed, but a message had been sent: The bankers (and the politicians who supported them) ultimately backed off. As Thomas Jefferson famously quipped in regard to the insurrection: "A little rebellion now and then is a good thing. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

    Perhaps it's time to consider that option once again.

    I'm calling for a national strike, one designed to close the country down for a day. The intent? Real campaign-finance reform and strong restrictions on lobbying. Because nothing will change until we take corporate money out of politics. Nothing will improve until our politicians are once again answerable to their constituents, not the rich and powerful.

    Let's set a date. No one goes to work. No one buys anything. And if that isn't effective -- if the politicians ignore us -- we do it again. And again. And again.

    The real war is not between the left and the right. It is between the average American and the ruling class. If we come together on this single issue, everything else will resolve itself. It's time we took back our government from those who would make us their slaves.
  • mwsully
    Groupie
    • May 2004
    • 77

    #2
    WHEN will people in this country say "enough is enough!" ?

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    • standin
      Veteran
      • Apr 2009
      • 2274

      #3
      I will go toe to toe with the unfortunate. I always felt so bad for him being shot in a courtroom. . .

      First off

      Mr. Flynt needs to address corruption and predatory practices in his own industry, the sex trade. Once he has demonstrated that he is against corruption and predatory practices, he will not be so green behind the ears on what it takes to regulate a sector of society.



      corruption need not be accepted as part of commerce
      It is not nonsense that a culture of corruption is what gave way and enhanced the unethical behaviors exhibited in the current crisis. In small towns and backwoods across America is has become commonplace to accept corruption as part and parcel of government and business alike. Even if these areas idealize vice as fiscal segment of their society, low ethics and corruption need not be accepted as part of commerce. It is there where the people can take courage and begin to take responsibility for their sector.

      The SEC needs teeth, so does the Federal Reserve.
      I somewhat agree when him on the SEC, but this is also where he is showing the green behind his ears. The SEC needs teeth, so does the Federal Reserve. It cannot be expected as Greenspan assumed that without structured penalties compliance is to be expected. Especially, in the enlightenment of the corruption age, it is foolhardy to think that certain sorts of our society will not be tempted by motive, opportunity, or perceived pressures to use unethical means to an end. This “means justifies the ends” mentality must go. People, real people, need to be held accountable when corporate and governmental agencies commit corruption. Moreover, to do this enforcement agencies need teeth.

      finical oversight along with the teeth to penalize
      As for the global market, Mr. Flynt needs to become aware of the age. He takes advantage of the very global monetary system he is saying does not exist. When his sales of his product are only within the boundaries of American borders, them let him preach no global markets. In the mean time, global oversight is needed. In today’s world, finical (and many other crimes) span the globe. You think those little nitwits from Nigeria is just an annoyance and not our issue, but they are. Their criminal activities affect people globally and to control those types of criminal enterprises and other like it, such as the Somali pirates, finical oversight along with the teeth to penalize these governments and individuals needs to be in place.

      spend some time in your industry addressing corruption and predatory practices
      So, Mr. Flynt, spend some time in your industry addressing corruption and predatory practices, get that green off your ear and come back when you have experience in cleaning corruption and predators from a sector of society.
      To put it simply, we need to worry a lot less about how to communicate our actions and much more about what our actions communicate.
      MICHAEL G. MULLEN

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      • sadaist
        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
        • Jul 2004
        • 11625

        #4
        Originally posted by mwsully
        WHEN will people in this country say "enough is enough!" ?
        Many are. But they are being immediately branded as racists or plants by the opposition. While this may be true of some of the people beginning to rise up, I don't believe it represents the majority.
        “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 58789

          #5
          Originally posted by sadaist
          Many are. But they are being immediately branded as racists or plants by the opposition. While this may be true of some of the people beginning to rise up, I don't believe it represents the majority.
          Then why did they sit on their asses through 8 years of Chimp and Cheney actually destroying their country, and only have a problem with it NOW, when a Black man is trying to do something about a REAL problem, like health care.

          The teabaggers aren't in the same camp as Larry Flynt here (and I mean with his politics, not his occupation) If they were, they would be advocating FOR single payer health care, because it would be the biggest FUCK YOU to corporatist corruption since FDR was president.
          Eat Us And Smile

          Cenk For America 2024!!

          Justice Democrats


          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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          • bueno bob
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Jul 2004
            • 22942

            #6
            Originally posted by sadaist
            Many are. But they are being immediately branded as racists or plants by the opposition. While this may be true of some of the people beginning to rise up, I don't believe it represents the majority.
            Fucking PLEASE.
            Twistin' by the pool.

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            • sadaist
              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
              • Jul 2004
              • 11625

              #7
              Originally posted by FORD
              when a Black man is trying to do something about a REAL problem

              Why do you insist on using the Presidents skin pigmentation as a defense? It seems to be a much bigger issue with his supporters than opposition.

              I see a whole lot more of "He's great, and you don't like him only because he is black"

              than I do "I don't like him because he is black".
              “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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              • sadaist
                TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                • Jul 2004
                • 11625

                #8
                Originally posted by bueno bob
                Fucking PLEASE.
                Insightful response. At least FORD had the courtesy to call an American President a derogatory name "chimpy", refer to the race card "BLACK man", and use a deviant sexual comment to describe people against continuous tax hikes "Teabaggers".
                “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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                • FORD
                  ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 58789

                  #9
                  The fact that Obama is Black is not an issue to me, but it IS a problem for the teabaggers. Have they EVER fucking dared to question whether any other President was a goddamn US citizen? They despised Clinton, but did they ever ask to see his goddamn birth certificate?

                  Ironically it was McCain who was actually born on foreign soil (Panama, and not in the canal zone either) but on the list of things I would have been concerned with in a McCain pResidency, that would have ranked somewhere in the bottom 5 of the list.

                  But you never heard these clowns bring up that issue in the campaign did you? Oh that's right..... McCain's a white Republican, so he's assumed to be American.

                  BTW, how many of these same teabaggers would willingly amend the Constitution to make Herr Gropenfuhrer eligible to be President? Probably every last one of them.
                  Eat Us And Smile

                  Cenk For America 2024!!

                  Justice Democrats


                  "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                  • sadaist
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 11625

                    #10
                    Originally posted by FORD
                    Have they EVER fucking dared to question whether any other President was a goddamn US citizen?
                    Funny that you of all people can't understand how a handful of people can actually believe in some government conspiracy/cover up.



                    Originally posted by FORD
                    Herr Gropenfuhrer
                    Who? Honestly, reading your posts is like trying to decipher a MadLibs. I can't keep up with all of the names you give everyone, and I read a lot of your posts. Can't imagine a casual reader perusing one of your rants.
                    “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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                    • FORD
                      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 58789

                      #11
                      Your governor. The Austrian born son of a concentration camp guard who likes to grope women who are not his wife. Hence the name "Herr Gropenfuhrer"
                      Eat Us And Smile

                      Cenk For America 2024!!

                      Justice Democrats


                      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                      • bueno bob
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 22942

                        #12
                        Originally posted by sadaist
                        Insightful response. At least FORD had the courtesy to call an American President a derogatory name "chimpy", refer to the race card "BLACK man", and use a deviant sexual comment to describe people against continuous tax hikes "Teabaggers".
                        But at least I didn't fall back on Bill O'Reilly head in the sand 101 in regards to the Dittohead agenda against the President.

                        "Oh, they're accusing us of racism, but it's failing! The American people are winning!"

                        Like I said, FUCKING PLEASE. Racism is what it is and there's absolutely no disguising it. You know what ELSE there's no disguising? Idiotic slight of hand by the Republican right to try and deflect their blatant attempts to derail EVERY aspect of Obama's presidency with "The American people have spoken!" bullshit.

                        That's right, I said it. BULLSHIT.

                        Birthers?
                        Racists?
                        Socialism?

                        GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK.

                        I'd love to know where all these cocksuckers were when Bush was FLAGRANTLY disregarding the constitution and Dickhead Cheney was obtaining more and more personal power for his position. I'd like to know where all these cocksuckers were when Bush was abandoning bin Laden for the (supposedly) richer fields of Iraq. I'd like to know where all these cocksuckers were then. I'd REALLY like to know.

                        Oh! That's right! Bush was a bible thumper so it was all under some kind of holy fucking mandate which makes it all ok, right?

                        Tell me, if Obama told you that his agenda was a religious mandate from the almighty, would it be OK then?

                        I'll tell you what right here and right now, that whole "They're accusing us of racism, but that's failing and the American people are winning!" crock of horse shit that worthless fucks like Glenn Beck and his Fox News cronies are spewing to themselves is SO far out of alignment I can't imagine anybody with an IQ over 60 lowering themselves to even repeat it, let alone actually buy into it.

                        The American people are fucking LOSING because these Fox News/Republican agenda "Derail it all!" dickheads are losing it FOR America.

                        That "detailed" enough for you?

                        Because I think "FUCKING PLEASE" pretty much covers it nicely, myself.
                        Twistin' by the pool.

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                        • sadaist
                          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 11625

                          #13
                          Originally posted by bueno bob
                          I can't imagine anybody with an IQ over 60 lowering themselves to even repeat it, let alone actually buy into it.

                          ...said the man after his long rant on the very subject.
                          “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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                          • kwame k
                            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 11302

                            #14
                            Well, to keep beating a dead horse.......Bush lied to us about the reason to invade a sovereign nation and no one other than a few free thinking people even seemed to mind. Killing thousand of people in the process and costing us trillions of dollars but war is OK just not health care for the millions of people who are uninsured.

                            Bush let Bernanke basically give a blank check to all their Wall Street buddies.....where was the outrage there.

                            The News a few weeks ago confirmed that the US government was spying and collecting information on thousands of law abiding citizens who had absolutely no ties to anti-government plots or terrorism. Done under Cheney's watchful eyes but no one has a problem with that.

                            So basically the most corrupt and blatantly anti-consistuional government known to man is fine but give out free/affordable health care and watch the Socialism tag get thrown around.

                            Quick questions.......Did government get bigger or smaller under Bush? Did government spending increase or decrease under Bush? How many innocent people died because of Bush? How much of our tax payers money went missing and is unaccounted for because of Bush......just try to account for the billions Halliburton spent........wait you can't! When questioned on that point by congress Halliburton basically said "we don't know where the money went". No problem we trust you and we know you guys because Cheney used to work for you so don't worry about paying any of it back.

                            Yeah Obama has really fucked this country up. We were doing so great under Bush
                            Originally posted by vandeleur
                            E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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                            • sadaist
                              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 11625

                              #15
                              Originally posted by kwame k
                              but give out free/affordable health care and watch the Socialism tag get thrown around.

                              Free? You sure about that chief?
                              “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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