Obama Is Pushing Israel Toward War

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  • ELVIS
    Banned
    • Dec 2003
    • 44120

    Obama Is Pushing Israel Toward War

    Eight years and four days after 9-11

    Events are fast pushing Israel toward a pre-emptive military strike on Iran's nuclear facilities, probably by next spring. That strike could well fail. Or it could succeed at the price of oil at $300 a barrel, a Middle East war, and American servicemen caught in between. So why is the Obama administration doing everything it can to speed the war process along?

    At July's G-8 summit in Italy, Iran was given a September deadline to start negotiations over its nuclear programs. Last week, Iran gave its answer: No.

    Instead, what Tehran offered was a five-page document that was the diplomatic equivalent of a giant kiss-off. It begins by lamenting the "ungodly ways of thinking prevailing in global relations" and proceeds to offer comprehensive talks on a variety of subjects: democracy, human rights, disarmament, terrorism, "respect for the rights of nations," and other areas where Iran is a paragon. Conspicuously absent from the document is any mention of Iran's nuclear program, now at the so-called breakout point, which both Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and his boss Ali Khamenei insist is not up for discussion.

    What's an American president to do in the face of this nonstarter of a document? What else, but pretend it isn't a nonstarter. Talks begin Oct. 1.

    All this only helps persuade Israel's skittish leadership that when President Obama calls a nuclear-armed Iran "unacceptable," he means it approximately in the same way a parent does when fecklessly reprimanding his misbehaving teenager. That impression is strengthened by Mr. Obama's decision to drop Iran from the agenda when he chairs a meeting of the U.N. Security Council on Sept. 24; by Defense Secretary Robert Gates publicly opposing military strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities; and by Russia's announcement that it will not support any further sanctions on Iran.

    In sum, the conclusion among Israelis is that the Obama administration won't lift a finger to stop Iran, much less will the "international community." So Israel has pursued a different strategy, in effect seeking to goad the U.S. into stopping, or at least delaying, an Israeli attack by imposing stiff sanctions and perhaps even launching military strikes of its own.

    Thus, unlike Israel's air strike against Iraq's reactor in 1981 or Syria's in 2007, both of which were planned in the utmost secrecy, the Israelis have gone out of their way to advertise their fears, purposes and capabilities. They have sent warships through the Suez Canal in broad daylight and conducted widely publicized air-combat exercises at long range. They have also been unusually forthcoming in their briefings with reporters, expressing confidence at every turn that Israel can get the job done.

    The problem, however, is that the administration isn't taking the bait, and one has to wonder why. Perhaps it thinks its diplomacy will work, or that it has the luxury of time, or that it can talk the Israelis out of attacking. Alternatively, it might actually want Israel to attack without inviting the perception that it has colluded with it. Or maybe it isn't really paying attention.

    But Israel is paying attention. And the longer the U.S. delays playing hardball with Iran, the sooner Israel is likely to strike. A report published today by the Bipartisan Policy Center, and signed by Democrat Chuck Robb, Republican Dan Coats, and retired Gen. Charles Ward, notes that by next year Iran will "be able to produce a weapon's worth of highly enriched uranium . . . in less than two months." No less critical in determining Israel's timetable is the anticipated delivery to Iran of Russian S-300 anti-aircraft batteries: Israel will almost certainly strike before those deliveries are made, no matter whether an Iranian bomb is two months or two years away.

    Such a strike may well be in Israel's best interests, though that depends entirely on whether the strike succeeds. It is certainly in America's supreme interest that Iran not acquire a genuine nuclear capability, whether of the actual or break-out variety. That goes also for the Middle East generally, which doesn't need the nuclear arms race an Iranian capability would inevitably provoke.

    Then again, it is not in the U.S. interest that Israel be the instrument of Iran's disarmament. For starters, its ability to do so is iffy: Israeli strategists are quietly putting it about that even a successful attack may have to be repeated a few years down the road as Iran reconstitutes its capacity. For another thing, Iran could respond to such a strike not only against Israel itself, but also U.S targets in Iraq and the Persian Gulf.

    But most importantly, it is an abdication of a superpower's responsibility to outsource matters of war and peace to another state, however closely allied. President Obama has now ceded the driver's seat on Iran policy to Prime Minister Netanyahu. He would do better to take the wheel again, keeping in mind that Iran is beyond the reach of his eloquence, and keeping in mind, too, that very useful Roman adage, Si vis pacem, para bellum.


  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
    • 35192

    #2
    I wonder if the main reason the US is the most warlike country in the world is because of her economy being based on war production.

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    • Dr. Love
      ROTH ARMY SUPREME
      • Jan 2004
      • 7832

      #3
      It's because peace is for pussies!
      I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

      http://i.imgur.com/jBw4fCu.gif

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      • lesfunk
        Full Member Status

        • Jan 2004
        • 3583

        #4
        Originally posted by Seshmeister
        I wonder if the main reason the US is the most warlike country in the world is because of her economy being based on war production.
        probably not, Most likely, We become infuriated at the rambling of a Drunk Scot and have to take it out on somebody.
        http://gifsoup.com/imager.php?id=4448212&t=o GIFSoup

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        • WACF
          Crazy Ass Mofo
          • Jan 2004
          • 2920

          #5
          ....and Kayne is a Jackass.....

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          • Dr. Love
            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
            • Jan 2004
            • 7832

            #6
            It's probably for the best just to let the Iranians have nuclear weapons anyway. Right? right? guys?
            I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

            http://i.imgur.com/jBw4fCu.gif

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            • WACF
              Crazy Ass Mofo
              • Jan 2004
              • 2920

              #7
              Originally posted by Dr. Love
              It's probably for the best just to let the Iranians have nuclear weapons anyway. Right? right? guys?
              Oh yes...it is their right....if we don't let them they may file a grievence...

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              • standin
                Veteran
                • Apr 2009
                • 2274

                #8

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                To put it simply, we need to worry a lot less about how to communicate our actions and much more about what our actions communicate.
                MICHAEL G. MULLEN

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                • Nitro Express
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 32797

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Seshmeister
                  I wonder if the main reason the US is the most warlike country in the world is because of her economy being based on war production.
                  Because the finance oligarchs that run the US and your country make a lot of money financing wars and they can then use martial law to clamp down on us and you. This us vs. them mentality is what they would like us to believe in truth, the leadership of these so called opposing groups are usually in collusion.
                  No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                  • Nitro Express
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 32797

                    #10
                    Bankers are always behind war. They finance both sides and make a shit load of money. The common gimmick is to use existing tension and exploit that into war. Finance both sides. Iran is backed by China and Russia. The CIA this summer was trying to run a color revolution there to overthrow the govt. but that failed. Now they are going to attack. They will exploit this to seize more power around the world.
                    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                    • Nitro Express
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 32797

                      #11
                      Obama is just another puppet like the other long list of puppet US presidents.
                      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                      • sadaist
                        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 11625

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Seshmeister
                        I wonder if the main reason the US is the most warlike country in the world is because of her economy being based on war production.

                        “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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                        • Nitro Express
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 32797

                          #13
                          The bankers need a big war anyways. They are out of bubbles. The .com bubble and losses of $5 trillion were covered by the Federal Reserve dropping interest rates to record lows. This caused the real estate bubble which blew up and needed to be bailed out. So now we are in the bailout bubble. The Federal Reserve can't drop rates any more and China is dumping the dollar. So they have limited time. All they can do now is start a war and if has to be big. Not the little shit we've had so far. It needs to be a war that pulls the world. World War III is on it's merry way because the financial system is failing.
                          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                          • Nitro Express
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 32797

                            #14
                            Where I live Jackson Hole, Wyoming is a tax haven for the rich. Because of Wyoming's oil resources, we have no state income tax. This is also a beautiful place to live and would rival Aspen if we had a bigger airport. Some powerful people like Dick Cheney and the Rockefellers have land here. Rich people people retire here and I know a few. One of my golfing buddies is a retired investment banker. He now has an Equadorian passport and carries several thousand dollars of gold on him. I thought this was strange because he moved out of California to get out of there and be in Wyoming. He told me the US was going to start a middle east war and if a missle hits Iran or Israel he's getting the hell out of the US. I asked why and he said they will usher in martial law and clamp down. He also said the top bankers have left the US and live in the southern hemisphere. The reason is if there's nuclear war, the northern hemisphere gets it and the nuclear fallout won't go past the equator. So the elite of the world who know something are moving south of the equation. Do a little research and he's correct. The Bush family has a huge compound in Paraguay.
                            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                            • Nitro Express
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32797

                              #15
                              Here's the man behind Obama's foreign policy. He's Obama's key handler.

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                              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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