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POJO_Risin

10-01-2009, 03:41 PM

Chicago is making their final push for the Olympics, with the Obamas helping make that push...

I want it in the states so I can take the family...

but I have to admit...seeing it in Rio wouldn't be all that bad...with all those topless beaches...;)

Guitar Shark

10-01-2009, 04:21 PM

If it's in Chicago, be sure to plan sufficiently in advance for tickets.

I live in Seattle, which is a reasonable drive away from the 2010 Vancouver Olympics, and tickets sold out long, long ago. Bummer - I wanted to take the family.

POJO_Risin

10-01-2009, 04:26 PM

Yeah GS...I went to the games in Seattle...and literally bought tickets three years in advance...or something like that...

I also ended up getting free tickets once I was there from people that were in my hotel that weren't going to make some events because of shitty planning...

Mainly...you need the hotel...the rest is easy...it just depends on what you want to see...

I just wanted to be there...at the time...meet chicks...and get wasted...

This time...it will be to take the kids to one...

Seshmeister

10-01-2009, 05:10 PM

How can Chicago afford it at the moment?

London is costing $20 billion.

$20 billion for three weeks to see who has the freak who is best at passing drugs tests?

binnie

10-01-2009, 05:17 PM

Three weeks to watch the British transport system fucked everything up.....

Va Beach VH Fan

10-01-2009, 08:45 PM

I'd be shocked if Chicago didn't get it at this point....

Obama and Oprah, quite the dynamic duo are lobbying for it...

Seshmeister

10-01-2009, 08:48 PM

Their combined slogan could be "Yes we can, eat a donut"

POJO_Risin

10-01-2009, 09:05 PM

You know Va...from what I've read...a lot of it could depend on the first city out...

and nearly every year...the frontrunner goes down...

But with Obama there...and the world loving him the way it does...

Well...I wouldn't bet against him. Hell, at this point...I'd go to Rio to see the Olympics...

I'd go to Spain...

Va Beach VH Fan

10-01-2009, 10:36 PM

The rumor is that it's down to between Chicago and Rio...

That shouldn't be any contest, infrastructure and transportation issues along...

standin

10-01-2009, 10:46 PM

Is this the winter or summer Olympics?
I am a big fan of the winter Olympics.
I guess this would be the summer

Because....
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/81/Sochi_2014_Olympics_logo.svg/200px-Sochi_2014_Olympics_logo.svg.png

You know, how does the Olympic thing work? That is 2014 and we are talking 2016...

twonabomber

10-01-2009, 11:26 PM

it's been changed from both every four years, they alternate now with two years in between.

Seshmeister

10-01-2009, 11:44 PM

The rumor is that it's down to between Chicago and Rio...

That shouldn't be any contest, infrastructure and transportation issues along...

I think in the current climate there is going to be a hell of a lot less competition to hold these.

Brazil has the World Cup in 2014 though so should have a lot of the stuff in place already for an Olympics. One of the things you don't think about for these things is hotel rooms. You need literally 10s of thousands and unless you have a bunch of 5 star hotels then the corrupt assholes that run the Olympics or soccer aren't interested because each country needs somewhere to put their hundreds of hangers on in luxury.

POJO_Risin

10-01-2009, 11:50 PM

I'd be curious to see the Chicago plan...

My bet is a lot of things are already in place...especially hotel rooms...

Not sure where they stand with everything else...and even what they would do over the next seven years. You would also have to wonder how this would effect the current pro sports there...since they would likely be using the baseball and football venues...

Not sure though...

POJO_Risin

10-01-2009, 11:51 PM

Seshmeister

10-02-2009, 12:00 AM

The problem is the main stadium. Who the fuck needs an 80 000 capacity athletics stadium? No one. Even the cool Chinese birdsnest one has been lying empty since the games.

In the olden times the way we would get around that, at least in Europe, was to have a running track around a football pitch but nowadays football fans including the the 'super important executive box' customers don't want to be that far away from the action.

I think in London they are doing some weird building block shit so that they can shrink the stadium afterwards to a more sensible size for the more routine running, jumping, throwing shit around, remember to take your steroid masking drug, competitions.

POJO_Risin

10-02-2009, 12:25 AM

Yeah...the irony is that when the remodeled soldier field a few years back...if I remember correctly...they moved the stands in around the football field because they were too far back. At one time, I think the stands there were the closest to the field of play...so there could be no track there, unless they redid the field again...which I can't imagine they would do.

I'm not sure if the plan would be to build an Olympic Stadium or not...but can't fathom that would make any sense whatsoever...with two baseball stadiums...and a football stadium already there...

POJO_Risin

10-02-2009, 12:25 AM

Apparently, Chicago has an 80,000 seat, temporary stadium planned at Washington park...

to the tune of nearly 400 million...that will "easily" be downsized to 10,000 after the Olympics...and hold various parkish events...

Other than that...there wouldn't have to be many venues built at all...Chicago has a lot of infrastructure already built...simply because it's a major US city...

They'll be using venues across the country for soccer pre-lims...then Soldier Field and the main stadium...

Seshmeister

10-02-2009, 12:40 AM

http://www.mosaiko.gr/admin/news/images_large/An%20artist%E2%80%99s%20rendition%20of%20the%20pro posed%20Olympic%20Stadium%20in%20Chicago%20(Courte sy%20of%20Chicago%202016).jpg

Looks like they are going to copy the London model.

From wiki

Soldier Field would not serve as the main Olympic Stadium in Chicago. However, the sports venue would host several soccer matches, including the Olympic Soccer finals.

The Olympic Stadium will be in Washington Park, a site listed on the National Register of Historic Places in the Washington Park community area of the same name on the city's south side. Chicago initially proposed building a temporary 80,000-seat track stadium adjacent to Soldier Field and having the two stadiums host dual Opening and Closing Ceremonies. However, the final proposal called for a $366 million temporary stadium to be built in Washington Park. The stadium will be replaced by a 10,000 seat multi-use venue after the games. The smaller post-Olympic stadium will be more in line with public interest in restoring the historic park after the games. The new stadium will feature a high-tech reflective sheathing material to accommodate huge TV picture projections on its outside walls. The temporary stadium would not have concessions inside the stadium unlike permanent local venues, although concessions are planned outside the stadium. The stadium will feature a basic oval shape, but it will also adhere to Olympic design rules which dictate that there must be an overhanging lip at one end to cover dignitaries and the media. IOC president Jacques Rogge praised Chicago's design in November 2007 as a possible "blueprint for the future." This reflects the desire of the IOC to make the games both more affordable and to have a smaller ecological footprint on the host city.

Seshmeister

10-02-2009, 12:47 AM

Call me a cynic but I think these things are all about politicians trying to get on a huge ego trip paid for by tax payers.

I'm not against Olympic games per se I'm against the fucking insanity of the cost. It reminds me of weddings. It starts out sounding like a reasonable idea, might even be fun and then it gets completely fucking out of hand and the next thing you know you are paying for years for a brief moment that you spent most of hoping nothing would go wrong.

The local politicians are like the bride with the taxpayers being the beleaguered parents...

The average cost of a wedding in the UK is now over $30k...

POJO_Risin

10-02-2009, 12:55 AM

I agree 100%...

Just read a special about the venues in China...and how they are a big waste...as you mentioned...the Bird's nest and the cube...

That hole area is like a fucking wacked out commune of poor...

Personally...I could care a less...

I don't watch them at all on TV...accept maybe the opening ceremonies for a minute or two...and a few events here and there.

I watch the Winter much more than the Summer...mainly the hockey to boot.

Had a fantastic time at the Atlanta Olympics though...mainly boozing it up...avoiding bombs from guys named Rudolph...and trying to bang internationally...

POJO_Risin

10-02-2009, 12:57 AM

Good comparison to the wedding scenario...giant fucking wastes of money...

I say to this day...get married at the Justice of the Peace...

Send out notices, asking to donate 20-30 dollars...and people would GLADLY do it so they wouldn't have to come to the damn thing...nor spend twice as much on a dumbass gift...

Seshmeister

10-02-2009, 01:00 AM

I went to the World Cup in France in 1998 and it was great fun too.

Like any party though it's best to have it at someone else's place so you don't need to pay for shit or clean up after... :)

twonabomber

10-02-2009, 01:09 AM

Atlanta built a new stadium and tore maybe half of it down after the Olympics.

POJO_Risin

10-02-2009, 01:12 AM

Yeah...it was Centennial Stadium...

Which is now Turner Field...where the Braves play...

Not sure how much pre-planning went into that...but think Ted Turner paid for most of the stadium to begin with...

Long time ago...and I'm too lazy to look...

twonabomber

10-02-2009, 01:23 AM

planned from the beginning, the dome was new and they didn't need two huge stadiums.

redblkwht

10-02-2009, 03:29 AM

Dan

10-02-2009, 03:42 AM

announcement tomorrow, if we have any luck..we will make the trip too.
the south side needs the facelift, its all slum/ghetto that is overdue
this will change the southside cosmetically & will fix the bad real estate
to more upscale, which they have been working on since the united center
was built..this would be a real good thing for the city, we will see soon
enough.

What Up,R.W.B?

Been To Chicago A Few Times,Been A Very Nice City To Travel In,But Know That Every City Has Its Parts That Peeps Turn The Another Way.Good Luck To Them If They Get It.

sadaist

10-02-2009, 04:38 AM

The local politicians are like the bride with the taxpayers being the beleaguered parents...

The average cost of a wedding in the UK is now over $30k...

Great analogy. It's not even about the actual marriage (or games in this case), but the venues, the guest list, the dress, the bridesmaids, the gifts, etc... Money, getting egos stroked, freebies, and face time. That's about it.

Oh, and how many people will put it on their resume? "Integral part of securing Chicago as home of the 2016 Olympic Games".

POJO_Risin

10-02-2009, 09:21 AM

I know the general thought is that the Olympics can change an area...it happens every four years...then ultimately doesn't...

Who knows though...with a big Obama push...it could change the face of Chicago...

Va Beach VH Fan

10-02-2009, 12:55 PM

Rio just got it...

Get your thong ready, Poj....

sadaist

10-02-2009, 01:08 PM

LOL. Chicago was the first one out in the voting...first round loss. Go figure. Happy for Rio.

Guitar Shark

10-02-2009, 02:22 PM

Rio just got it...

Get your thong ready, Poj....

:lmao:

That could be post of the year...

Guitar Shark

10-02-2009, 02:25 PM

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media-cdn/jj1/headlines/2006/05/borat-green-thong-swimsuit.jpg

lesfunk

10-02-2009, 04:21 PM

Forget Chicago: Cleveland gets the GAY GAMES!
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0%2C8599%2C1927211%2C00.html

BITEYOASS

10-02-2009, 05:41 PM

I guess Chicago can save that money for the next time they host the world series. Which will be another 50 years! LOL :D

Va Beach VH Fan

10-02-2009, 05:47 PM

And, of course, the Republicans are as giddy as school girls....

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Guitar Shark

10-02-2009, 06:00 PM

I don't get it... where did that come from, VA? So it's a group of Republicans applauding at the news that Chicago isn't hosting the Olympics?

sadaist

10-02-2009, 07:40 PM

POJO_Risin

10-02-2009, 09:13 PM

You bet your ass I've got my thong ready...

My elephant thong...for all the ladies viewing pleasure...

Va Beach VH Fan

10-02-2009, 11:53 PM

I don't get it... where did that come from, VA? So it's a group of Republicans applauding at the news that Chicago isn't hosting the Olympics?

Yup, they're called "Americans for Prosperity", aka the T-Baggers....

Conservatives Revel In Obama's Olympic Bid Failure (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/02/conservatives-revel-in-ob_n_307794.html)

redblkwht

10-03-2009, 01:30 AM

Go figure, Rio was a solid choice..kinda glad Japan didnt get it IMO..

FORD

10-03-2009, 01:33 AM

Americans for Prosperity - a right wing lobbying group tied to Koch Industries, an energy company whose founder was a member of the John Birch Society.

So that's about as right wing as you can get.

Seshmeister

10-03-2009, 08:01 AM

Go figure, Rio was a solid choice..kinda glad Japan didnt get it IMO..

After having to put up with the World Cup there a few years ago the time difference is a pain in the ass.

POJO_Risin

10-03-2009, 02:28 PM

I'm so fucking flat out sick of politics...and it's damned invading everything...

This fucking country is fucking locked in the damned depths of this bullshit...where the far right and the fucking far left are so consumed with making sure the other loses, that we all lose. It's fucking ridiculous.

People keep saying we need a revolution...yeah...one in which the fucking people on either side, a little closer to the middle get out a fucking planet size canon, and rid this country of the anchors that keep it from reaching its potential.

If that's what stopped the Olympics...a pissing match...then fuck both sides...

As for Rio...good...I'll get to see more hot bitches...

POJO_Risin

10-03-2009, 02:31 PM

Did you see Pele bawling after the announcement? How old is that cat these days?

Seshmeister

10-04-2009, 12:15 PM

Let me google that for you (http://tinyurl.com/yak3ahj)

High Life Man

10-04-2009, 11:06 PM

As someone I know said (he lives in Chicago), I knew we weren't getting it when I saw people waving Cubs' W flags that morning. Lord knows that never happens in Chicago in October. A baaaad omen...

redblkwht

10-05-2009, 12:46 AM

As someone I know said (he lives in Chicago), I knew we weren't getting it when I saw people waving Cubs' W flags that morning. Lord knows that never happens in Chicago in October. A baaaad omen...

But yet still better than Milwaukee Brewers 3 years in a row now..lol
GB is going down tomorrow too..lmao:tongue0011:

redblkwht

10-05-2009, 12:48 AM

What Up,R.W.B?

Been To Chicago A Few Times,Been A Very Nice City To Travel In,But Know That Every City Has Its Parts That Peeps Turn The Another Way.Good Luck To Them If They Get It.
Nada dan, just killing time..and looking for a new favorite beer ;)

Dan

10-05-2009, 01:13 AM

Packer's Fan In Da House.:D