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Big Train
10-12-2009, 01:16 PM
Talk about bad poll numbers...Harry Reid, 50% want him out...in his home state.

U.S. SENATE SEAT: Two could beat Reid, poll finds - News - ReviewJournal.com (http://www.lvrj.com/news/two-could-beat-reid-poll-finds-63955312.html)


U.S. SENATE SEAT: Two could beat Reid, poll finds

Lowden, Tarkanian tied atop GOP challengers

By BENJAMIN SPILLMAN
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2009 LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL
Nevadans say they're ready to replace longtime Democratic incumbent Sen. Harry Reid with an untested Republican.

Which Republican? Undecided.

But of their top two picks -- former GOP party official Sue Lowden and real estate developer Danny Tarkanian -- either one would unseat Reid if the election were held today, according to a poll commissioned by the Review-Journal.

Lowden and Tarkanian are in a statistical tie atop a list of nine primary candidates, according to the survey of Nevada registered voters.

The poll by Washington, D.C.-based Mason-Dixon Polling & Research Inc. shows 23 percent of Republicans favored Lowden to 21 percent for Tarkanian with 44 percent undecided.

"That's a lot of voters sitting on the fence," said Brad Coker, Mason-Dixon managing partner.

Former assemblywoman Sharron Angle came in third among primary candidates at 9 percent; six others had 1 percent or less.

Though respondents can't decide whom they want to win the Republican primary, they're certain they don't support Reid, the Senate majority leader seeking his fifth consecutive six-year term.

In one general election scenario, 49 percent of respondents picked Lowden and 39 percent chose Reid. In another, 48 percent picked Tarkanian to 43 percent for Reid. That poll, which surveyed 500 voters Tuesday through Thursday, has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.5 percentage points.

In Clark County, where Reid needs to dominate to win another term, he is in a statistical tie with either Lowden or Tarkanian.

"That is the bad news," UNLV political science professor David Damore said of Reid's Clark County numbers. "That tells you there is a disaffected base there."

For months the perception of Reid among voters has been fixed, with near 100 percent name recognition and a high number of voters viewing him unfavorably. In the latest poll, 38 percent of voters viewed Reid favorably compared to 50 percent with an unfavorable view.

That's virtually unchanged from a similar poll in August.

In contrast, 31 percent had a favorable view of Lowden and 15 percent unfavorable; 25 percent didn't recognize her.

For Tarkanian, 30 percent of respondents had a favorable view and 11 percent unfavorable; 19 percent didn't recognize him.

"Reid needs to be a little bit less worried about his opposition right now and work to shore himself up," said Jennifer Duffy with the Cook Political Report.

Party affiliation breakdown in the poll was reflective of state registration figures, with 44 percent Democrats, 36 percent Republicans and 20 percent independents. Questions about the Republican primary were limited to a sampling of 300 Republicans. Those results have a margin of error of plus or minus 6 percentage points.

Representatives of the candidates took the poll results with a grain of salt.

"Senator Reid has never put much stock in polls. The Republican candidates in this race are still supporting many of the policies that got us into the mess that Senator Reid is working every day to get us out of," said Reid campaign manager Brandon Hall. "As the election draws closer and voters are presented with a choice between moving our economy forward and the status quo, we are confident that Senator Reid's vision of moving forward will prevail."

Tarkanian consultant Jamie Fisfis said he thinks Tarkanian is leading Lowden.

"They don't jibe for me," he said of the Mason-Dixon results depicting a statistical tie in the primary. "Lowden has received a small announcement bump, but we have maintained our lead."

Fisfis said the campaign took an automated poll of more than 1,100 people while the Mason-Dixon pollsters were also making calls.

That poll didn't include as many candidates and showed Tarkanian leading Lowden by 8 percentage points, Fisfis said.

Lowden consultant Robert Uithoven says the Lowden campaign hasn't polled since August, but was pleased with the Mason-Dixon results.

Lowden didn't officially announce her candidacy until Oct. 1, but has been expected to run since the summer and was included in an August Mason-Dixon poll.

"Considering that Sue Lowden has only been in the race for a week these numbers are encouraging," Uithoven said. "Poll numbers are always great, but at the end they have got to show up by way of votes."

Uithoven acknowledged that with Reid poised to raise as much as $25 million to hold his seat, it is unlikely Lowden will retain 18 percent of Democrats who chose her over Reid.

With more than eight months to go before the Republican primary, there's still time for lesser-known candidates to gain some ground.

Investment banker John Chachas, an Ely native who has spent his adult life in New York, has contributed $1 million of his own money to a $1.4 million campaign.

"I'm paying my own freight here," said Chachas, who has yet to register to vote in Nevada. "I'm not using donor money to pay for my staff."

He's banking that his financial experience can help him show voters he has a better grasp of economic problems facing the nation than do leading Republicans.

"The discussion of how you fix the Nevada economy is how you fix the national economy," he said.

Wellington physician Robin Titus hopes she can leverage medical expertise to raise her profile among voters concerned about health care.

Titus, a Nevadan with family roots in Smith Valley dating to the 1880s, runs a general practice and still makes house calls for rural customers.

She believes in charging patients on a sliding scale based on their ability to pay. But she also said patients should pay something for health care so they realize its value, and should have more control over their treatment.

"A one-size-fits-everybody approach does not work in health care," Titus said.

She doesn't trust Reid to deliver health reform that conforms to values such as her own.

FORD
10-12-2009, 01:20 PM
More Democrats want Spineless Reid gone than Repukes do. Someone needs to take his ass out in the primary.

There must be a real Democrat somewhere in Nevada.

Big Train
10-12-2009, 01:22 PM
John McCain is still trying to get over the last election Democrats (well, Acorn) screwed him out of.

Nickdfresh
10-12-2009, 01:27 PM
John McCain is still trying to get over the last election Democrats (well, Acorn) screwed him out of.

ACORN ran the GOP in 2000?:umm:

FORD
10-12-2009, 01:28 PM
McCain has two very stupid people to blame for his defeat.

Chimpy, who made the election of any Repuke impossible.

Moosealini, who made a 72 year old 4 time cancer patient even more so.

Big Train
10-12-2009, 01:28 PM
They were sure running the Democratic Party by 2008, that is obvious..

Nickdfresh
10-12-2009, 01:33 PM
They must be really competent then and responsible for the total change in gov't since 2006...

Big Train
10-12-2009, 01:53 PM
Well, they certainly know how to run a tax advantaged whorehouse...

FORD
10-12-2009, 02:05 PM
Yeah, some Eminem wannabe on the Murdoch payroll shoots a dumb, poorly edited YouTube video about "pimps and hos" and that condemns the entire ACORN organization.

We all know what the Republicans REAL problem with ACORN is. They don't want poor people to vote. Because most poor people don't vote for Repukes. Unless they're religiously deluded Appalachian trailer park dwellers who think they need to be "saved" from "baby killin' homos"

Big Train
10-12-2009, 02:17 PM
Spare me. All anyone asks is that they be real, live human beings Ford. Something Acorn has an issue in providing:

Fraud Map :: Rotten Acorn :: (http://www.rottenacorn.com/activityMap.html)

Recent Fraud

State Year Details
AR 1998 A contractor with ACORN-affiliated Project Vote was arrested for falsifying about 400 voter registration cards.

CO 2005 Two ex-ACORN employees were convicted in Denver of perjury for submitting false voter registrations.

2004 An ACORN employee admitted to forging signatures and registering three of her friends to vote 40 times.

CT 2008 The New York Post reported that ACORN submitted a voter registration card for a 7-year-old Bridgeport girl. Another 8,000 cards from the same city will be scrutinized for possible fraud.

FL 2009 In September, 11 ACORN workers were accused of forging voter registration applications in Miami-Dade County during the last election. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement and the state attorney’s office scoured hundreds of suspicious applications provided by ACORN and found 197 of 260 contained personal ID information that did not match any living person.

2008 Election officials in Brevard County have given prosecutors more than 23 suspect registrations from ACORN. The state's Division of Elections is also investigating complaints in Orange and Broward Counties.

2004 A Florida Department of Law Enforcement spokesman said ACORN was “singled out” among suspected voter registration groups for a 2004 wage initiative because it was “the common thread” in the agency’s fraud investigations.

IN 2008 Election officials in Indiana have thrown out more than 4,000 ACORN-submitted voter registrations after finding they had identical handwriting and included the names of many deceased Indianans, and even the name of a fast food restaurant.

MI 2008 Clerks in Detroit found a "sizeable number of duplicate and fraudulent [voter] applications" from the Michigan branch of ACORN. Those applications have been turned over to the U.S. Attorney's office for investigation.

2004 The Detroit Free Press reported that “overzealous or unscrupulous campaign workers in several Michigan counties are under investigation for voter-registration fraud, suspected of attempting to register nonexistent people or forging applications for already-registered voters.” ACORN-affiliate Project Vote was one of two groups suspected of turning in the documents.

MO 2008 Nearly 400 ACORN-submitted registrations in Kansas City have been rejected due to duplication or fake information.

2007 Four ACORN employees were indicted in Kansas City for charges including identity theft and filing false registrations during the 2006 election.

2006 Eight ACORN employees in St. Louis were indicted on federal election fraud charges. Each of the eight faces up to five years in prison for forging signatures and submitting false information.

2003 Of 5,379 voter registration cards ACORN submitted in St. Louis, only 2,013 of those appeared to be valid. At least 1,000 are believed to be attempts to register voters illegally.

MN 2004 During a traffic stop, police found more than 300 voter registration cards in the trunk of a former ACORN employee, who had violated a legal requirements that registration cards be submitted to the Secretary of State within 10 days of being filled out and signed.

NC 2008 County elections officials have sent suspicious voter registration applications to the state Board of Elections. Many of the applications had similar or identical names, but with different addresses or dates of birth.

2004 North Carolina officials investigated ACORN for submitting fake voter registration cards.

NM 2008 Prosecutors are investigating more than 1,100 ACORN-submitted voter registration cards after a county clerk found them to be fraudulent. Many of the cards included duplicate names and slightly altered personal information.

2005 Four ACORN employees submitted as many as 3,000 potentially fraudulent signatures on the group’s Albuquerque ballot initiative. A local sheriff added: “It’s safe to say the forgery was widespread.”

2004 An ACORN employee registered a 13-year-old boy to vote. Citing this and other examples, New Mexico State Representative Joe Thompson stated that ACORN was “manufacturing voters” throughout New Mexico.

NV 2009 Nevada authorities indicted ACORN on 26 counts of voter registration fraud and 13 counts of illegally compensating canvassers. ACORN provided a bonus compensation program called “Blackjack” or “21+” for any canvasser who registered more than 20 voters per shift, which is illegal under Nevada law.

2008 Nevada state authorities raided ACORN's Las Vegas headquarters as part of a task force investigation of election fraud. Fraudulent registrations included players from the Dallas Cowboys.

OH 2008 ACORN activists gave Ohio residents cash and cigarettes in exchange for filling out voter registration card, according to the New York Post. Some voters claim to have registered dozens of times, and one man says he signed up on 72 cards.

2007 A man in Reynoldsburg was indicted on two felony counts of illegal voting and false registration, after being registered by ACORN to vote in two separate counties.

2004 A grand jury indicted a Columbus ACORN worker for submitting a false signature and false voter registration form. In Franklin County, two ACORN workers submitted what the director of the board of election supervisors called “blatantly false” forms. In Cuyahoga County, ACORN and its affiliate Project Vote submitted registration cards that had the highest rate of errors for any voter registration group.

PA 2009 Seven ACORN workers in the Pittsburgh area were indicted for submitting falsified voter registration forms. Six of the seven were also indicted for registering voters under an illegal quota system.

2008 State election officials have thrown out 57,435 voter registrations, the majority of which were submitted by ACORN. The registrations were thrown out after officials found "clearly fraudulent" signatures, vacant lots listed as addresses, and other signs of fraud.

2008 An ACORN employee in West Reading, PA, was sentenced to up to 23 months in prison for identity theft and tampering with records. A second ACORN worker pleaded not guilty to the same charges and is free on $10,000 bail.

2004 Reading’s Director of Elections received calls from numerous individuals complaining that ACORN employees deliberately put inaccurate information on their voter registration forms. The Berks County director of elections said voter fraud was “absolutely out of hand,” and added: “Not only do we have unintentional duplication of voter registration but we have blatant duplicate voter registrations.” The Berks County deputy director of elections added that ACORN was under investigation by the Department of Justice.
TX 2008 In Harris County, nearly 10,000 ACORN-submitted registrations were found to be invalid, including many with clearly fraudulent addresses or other personal information.

2008 ACORN turned in the voter registration form of David Young, who told reporters “The signature is not my signature. It’s not even close.” His social security number and date of birth were also incorrect.

VA 2005 In 2005, the Virginia State Board of Elections admonished Project Vote and ACORN for turning in a significant number of faulty voter registrations. An audit revealed that 83% of sampled registrations that were rejected for carrying false or questionable information were submitted by Project Vote. Many of these registrations carried social security numbers that exist for other people, listed non-existent or commercial addresses, or were for convicted felons in violation of state and federal election law.

In a letter to ACORN, the State Board of Elections reported that 56% of the voter registration applications ACORN turned in were ineligible. Further, a full 35% were not submitted in a timely manner, as required by law. The State Board of Elections also commented on what appeared to be evidence of intentional voter fraud. "Additionally,” they wrote, “information appears to have been altered on some applications where information given by the applicant in one color ink has been scratched through and re-entered in another color ink. Any alteration of a voter registration application is a Class 5 Felony in accordance with § 24.2-1009 of the Code of Virginia."

WA 2007 Three ACORN employees pleaded guilty, and four more were charged, in the worst case of voter registration fraud in Washington state history. More than 2,000 fraudulent voter registration cards were submitted by the group during a voter registration drive.

WI 2008 At least 33,000 ACORN-submitted registrations in Milwaukee have been called into question after it was found that the organizations had been using felons as registration workers, in violation of state election rules. Two people involved in the ongoing Wisconsin voter fraud investigation have been charged with felonies.
2004 The district attorney’s office investigated seven voter registration applications Project Vote employees filed in the names of people who said the group never contacted them. Former Project Vote employee Robert Marquise Blakely told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that he had not met with any of the people whose voter registration applications he signed, “an apparent violation of state law,” according to the paper.

ELVIS
10-12-2009, 02:22 PM
Dang, Obamahhhma's dick must taste good to you freaks...

Wake up!!!!

FORD
10-12-2009, 02:44 PM
I'm not reading that Rick Berman distorted trash spew, but I'm sure its the same old broken record about "fradulent voter registrations". Which as we know, never got anywhere close to voting, and were in fact, turned over to the proper local authorities by ACORN itself.

FORD
10-12-2009, 02:49 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_E9NPoeLuzC4/SKs9yKQENCI/AAAAAAAAAVY/8f1tmb_XLV4/s1600/rick%2520berman.jpg
Hi, I'm Republican lobbyist pig RicKKK Berman.
Do you believe, as I do, that this country
went downhill as soon as ni**ers were allowed
to vote? Then join my group, "Rotten Acorn".
We also hate unions, health care reform, and
pretty much anything else that might improve
this country. Call me today at 877-ASSCLOWN.

Big Train
10-12-2009, 02:50 PM
OK, so easily proven PUBLIC documents about active investigations into ACORN are now one person's "Spew".

The big caveat is that they NEVER got close to the voting? Whether or not that is true (which I don't believe for a second), you would continue to allow an orginization to be involved in elections where cycle after cycle, state after state, their employees show a demonstrated pattern to falsify documents?

Keep spinning that plate...you'll find someway to be right someday..

Nickdfresh
10-12-2009, 06:30 PM
Well, they certainly know how to run a tax advantaged whorehouse...

And a lot of Republican (and Democratic) politicians might as well work in one...

bueno bob
10-13-2009, 12:54 AM
Now, correct me if I'm wrong here, but if somebody turns in a registration to vote, EVEN if it's absolutely OBVIOUS that it's completely fraudulent, you're required by law to submit it. Correct?

I seem to recall something about that...

GAR
10-13-2009, 03:28 AM
Dang, Obamahhhma's dick must taste good to you freaks...

Wake up!!!!

FORD loves that DNC Acorn AfroCOCK~!!

GAR
10-13-2009, 03:30 AM
Now, correct me if I'm wrong here, but if somebody turns in a registration to vote, EVEN if it's absolutely OBVIOUS that it's completely fraudulent, you're required by law to submit it. Correct?

I seem to recall something about that...

Try that logic with your next tax return..

standin
10-13-2009, 03:32 AM
Logic is not law.
Your, Elvis and the rest of the sillies shock value only highlights the gross features of your sorts.

GAR
10-13-2009, 03:38 AM
Your grotesqueness is a welcome clarifier to our features.

Please, post your standin strip!

standin
10-13-2009, 03:55 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3267/3105362232_b3ba46d146.jpg

Nickdfresh
10-13-2009, 10:38 AM
FORD loves that DNC Acorn AfroCOCK~!!

So does your mother...