The Raiders Can Straight Up Go Fuck Themselves!

[JJtheVagPounder]

It is often a very lonely road to be a Raiders fan. Even with like minded friends surrounding you, you often feel like taking your beer into a corner and sulking. Brooding. Smoulder with rage. You find yourself asking God why you can't be a fan of a winning team. Why he cursed you with an unwaivering sense of loyalty. Why do the Raiders hurt you so bad?

Coming into the game this past Sunday against the Giants, I knew the Raiders were not going to fair well. I prepared myself for a loss. I did not prepare myself, however, for the eviceration New York imposed upon my favorite football team. 44-7.

44-7.

Eli Manning, hurt ankle and all, went onto the field and systematically pummeled Oakland into submission. Every pass, every RUN was a big "go fuck yourself" to the men in silver and black. After Eli felt he had enough fun for one day, the Giants pulled him and put in David Carr, their number 2, and he went to work dumping passes into the eager hands of receivers knowing this game would significantly improve their numbers.

But let's not give all the credit to the Giants. They had help. The Raiders, much like every other week, didn't feel like playing. The look in their cold, dead eyes as they sauntered on and off the field just waiting to get back to the clubhouse to shower, change, and bang some hoes was more than an indicator that they could care less. And why should they? Jamarcus Russell, who was supposed to be a phenom, doesn't bring any life to the team. Without a frontman what do you got? He doesn't pump them up on OR off the field. He just sits there and says "oh well, tough break".

I wish I could hate Jamarcus Russell to death.

How bad is it when you can call what happens in a drive? "Watch, they're going three and out." "Watch this, JR is going to fumble it.....AGAIN." "Bet ya anything the Raiders get a safety called. BOOM! There it is." What exactly do I need to do as a fan to get the Raiders to sit Russell? Boycot the games? Get a petition signed by 10,000 fans saying they hate the direction Al Davis and his pride are taking this team?

Nothing will work. The only thing that could possibly change this horribly negative momentum would be if they NFL stripped Al Davis of his power and gave it to someone else. Let's face it, he done fucked up with Jamarcus Russell. He still loves to call plays from his little booth and God knows they suck. His head coach is just about as useful as tits on a bull. They have scored 16 points in their last four games while the opposition has scored 112 in the last four games against them. Can't have a winning season with numbers like that Al, you fuck stick.

44-7.

Everything the Raiders touch seems to turn to a steamy pile of dogshit. They are succeeding in doing the exact OPPOSITE of what you should strive for during a season; winning. But with the attitude of "fuck it" going up and down the sideline, mediocrity even seems that it would be an improvement.

44-7.

By the end of the game I found myself hoping the Giants would get to at least 51. And it's not over yet, kids. Oh no. Next week it's off to Philly. Yee haw, I hope the Eagles beat us so bad it sets a fucking record. Fuck you Al. Fuck you in your stupid ass.
:fufu:

[chefcraig]

Even CBS gave up on the Raiders yesterday. A few minutes into the third quarter, our affiliate switched to the Steelers/Lions game. When that went south, they switched again to the Ravens/Bengals game.

What stinks is the Raiders actually showed (very few) signs of looking like a pro team during that game. Russell threw a few passes that went where they were supposed to, and the tight end managed to catch them. Then they'd commit some totally stupid penalty and would go three and out. Or worse, would get flagged while on defense and advanced the ball for the Giants when NY failed to do so. http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-ashamed-smileys-705.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/Free-Hello-Kitty-Smileys/)

Oh, and speaking of the rest of the season, this little story refuses to go away, as well. http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/Battle/hammer-3012.gif (http://freesmileyface.net/Free-Battle-Smileys.html)

Hanson: My life was threatened by Cable

By Michael Silver, Yahoo! Sports Oct 11, 2: 06 am EDT

WALNUT CREEK, Calif. – When Oakland Raiders coach Tom Cable told his assistants after a sloppy Aug. 4 training-camp practice that he planned to meet privately that night with the team’s defensive backs, Randy Hanson was sure how things would play out.

“You know what’s gonna happen there,” Hanson, a defensive assistant who had worked closely with the team’s secondary, predicted to a small group of fellow staff members. “Tom’s gonna come out of the meeting and say I’m the problem, that I’m the one confusing them and blame it all on me.”

Hanson was right: Later that night, Cable informed him that the Raiders’ cornerbacks and safeties had pegged him as “the problem,” exacerbating the tension that Hanson says had been festering between the two coaches since January, when Hanson was hired by owner Al Davis before Cable had been offered a permanent head-coaching role.

What Hanson says he never saw coming was an alleged violent attack by Cable the following morning that left him with a fractured jaw and a polluted relationship with the franchise he has loved since childhood.

“From my blindside, Tom Cable threw me from my chair and into a piece of furniture that a lamp sat upon,” Hanson told Yahoo! Sports Friday during an extensive interview at a Bay Area restaurant. “He was screaming, ‘I’ll f——- kill you! I’ll f——- kill you!’ And I have no reason to believe he wouldn’t have killed me if they hadn’t pulled him away.

“If my head would’ve hit a different way, I might be dead right now.”

In his first public comments since the Aug. 5 incident that took place in a meeting room at the Marriott-Napa Valley, Hanson repeated the version of events that he gave to a Napa Police Department detective late last month. According to a source close to the investigation, three witnesses – Raiders defensive coordinator John Marshall, defensive backs coach Lionel Washington and assistant defensive backs coach Willie Brown – also provided statements to police investigators which corroborated Hanson’s account of the incident.

The two-month investigation is now under review by Napa County district attorney Gary Lieberstein, who could decide to file felony assault charges against Cable. Hanson’s San Francisco-based attorney, John McGuinn, told AOL FanHouse last week that “this really is a textbook case of felony assault.” Cable, who has reportedly retained a criminal defense attorney, could be seeking a plea deal that might allow him to avoid jail time.

Cable may also face discipline under the NFL’s personal conduct policy. According to Greg Aiello, the league’s senior vice president of public relations, commissioner Roger Goodell did not meet with Cable this weekend during the team’s visit to New Jersey – the 1-3 Raiders face the New York Giants on Sunday – and no meeting is currently planned. However, Goodell acknowledged earlier during the week that the league is “closely monitoring the case.”

The Raiders did not respond to requests Saturday by Yahoo! Sports to speak with Davis, Cable and Marshall, and separate phone calls to Washington and Brown were not returned. Reached Saturday night by phone, Marshall confirmed he had been interviewed by a Napa Police officer and said, “I can’t talk about any of this.”

Cable has previously denied attacking Hanson, claiming in an Aug. 18 interview following a training-camp practice that “nothing happened” and later insisting that “when the facts come out, everything will be fine.”

Hanson, 41, who is still getting paid by the Raiders, says he never wanted the incident to be publicized and sent a letter to the organization saying he would accept a reassignment of duties to avoid being a distraction to the team. A fervent Raiders fan since his days growing up in western Washington’s Skagit Valley, Hanson said he still roots for the team – he showed up for Friday’s interview wearing a thick, black shirt with a silver “Raiders” logo.

Though it has been suggested that Hanson was a snitch for Davis who reported to the owner about the behavior of his fellow coaches, he adamantly denied that depiction. However, Hanson conceded that Cable “might have been paranoid about my relationship with Mr. Davis because I was hired by him.”

Known for his intense work ethic and aptitude in breaking down opponents’ tendencies, Hanson was a highly regarded offensive assistant during a three-year stint with the Minnesota Vikings from 2003 to 2005.

“Randy Hanson’s a great coach,” said former Vikings center Matt Birk(notes), a perennial Pro Bowl selection now with the Baltimore Ravens. “He would break down opposing defenses for us, and he was outstanding. He’s an extremely hard worker. That used to be the joke – he never stopped. He’d sleep in the office and watch every bit of tape he could find.”

Added former Vikings quarterback Brad Johnson(notes): “I really enjoyed being around him. He brought a lot of flavor to the room and to the field, and I thought he had a lot of insights into game plans.”

After spending the ’06 season with the St. Louis Rams, Hanson was let out of his contract to join first-year coach Lane Kiffin’s Oakland staff because, he says, then Rams-coach Scott Linehan was aware of his devotion to the Raiders. In Oakland, he worked as an assistant secondary coach in charge of third-down defenses and impressed his fellow coaches with his knowledge of opposing offenses and his ability to convey his insights to the players.

“He knows what the opposing team’s gonna do before they know what they’re gonna do,” said one former Raiders assistant who worked closely with Hanson. “That’s how much tape he watches. And he’s a damn good football coach, too.”

After making some disparaging locker-room comments about the Raiders’ preparation following the team’s 41-14 defeat to the Denver Broncos at the start of the 2008 season, Hanson received a five-day suspension for insubordination from Kiffin, who did not inform Davis of his action. The owner cited this as one of many reasons for Kiffin’s dismissal during a press conference last Oct. 1 to announce the firing.

Shortly after Cable was named interim coach, Hanson claims Cable told him in a staff meeting, “If I could fire you, I would.”

Following the ’08 season Cable told his assistants that he would meet with each of them to discuss their futures with the team should he be hired as the permanent coach. According to Hanson, however, Cable “met with every guy but me.”

On Jan. 20, Hanson had what he said was his first-ever “one-on-one, face-to-face meeting” with the owner. In what was supposed to be a 15-minute session to address Hanson’s prospects of remaining with the team, the coach apparently wowed the owner with his grasp of football and with his knowledge of Raiders history.

“We met for more than two-and-a-half hours,” Hanson recalled. “At the start of the meeting, he said, ‘I know you’re a hard worker and you love the Raiders, but I don’t know what you do that helps this football team. I do not know if you can coach or not.’ By the end he had given me a raise and told me he wanted me to stay on as ‘assistant coach-defense.’ My role would be to teach the new defensive coaches what we did on defense last year so they’ll know some of the things I like. He also said he wanted to groom me on the personnel side. He said he wanted me to play an important role in the future of the organization.”

At the conclusion of the meeting, Hanson was asked by Davis whether he thought Cable would be a good choice as head coach. “I told Mr. Davis yes,” Hanson recalled. “He won his last two games, and I felt like he deserved a chance.”

However, after Cable was officially hired in early February, Hanson quickly began to suspect that the head coach did not share the owner’s enthusiasm for his new role.

First Cable, at the press conference announcing his hiring, laid out his staff for reporters without mentioning Hanson. The following day, according to Hanson, Cable told him that he had just had a phone conversation with Davis in which the owner had described Hanson as a quality-control coach, a much less prestigious post with mostly administrative responsibilities.

Recalled Hanson: “Tom said, ‘Don’t worry – I’m not going to do that to you. I’ll make you a defensive assistant.’ Tom demoted me, and I became the league’s highest-paid defensive assistant.”

The slights continued over the spring. Hanson was told by Cable’s assistant not to accompany the rest of the staff to the NFL scouting combine in Indianapolis, and he ended up being given duties similar to that of a secretary. Hanson wasn’t invited to several staff functions, including a post-draft party and a trip to an Oakland A’s game.

At a post-draft minicamp for rookies and free agents, Hanson said Cable “belittled” him in the process of introducing staff members to the players by implying that he was an assistant quality-control coach.

Shortly before training camp, Davis grilled Marshall, the team’s new defensive coordinator, during a meeting. As Marshall struggled to answer a question from the owner, Hanson assisted the veteran coach by giving hand signals from the back of the room. Cable, Hanson said, seemed to have been angered by his actions.

The tension escalated early in training camp as Cable decided to split the team into two units and conduct side-by-side practices for the first four days. That meant Hanson and Washington coached on separate fields for the first eight practices, which exacerbated the coaches’ confusion over a new blitz scheme that they were trying to teach the players.

“We had changed the blitz package two or three times over a short period, and everybody was really confused and frustrated,” Hanson said. “We ended up changing it a fourth time – back to the way it was in OTAs (organized team activities) – and one of the players said in a meeting, ‘This is confusing.’ I said, ‘You guys are [f——-] right – we’re all confused, and that includes the coaches. We’ve got to get on the same page. Don’t worry. We’ll get it right.’ ”

On the evening of Aug. 4, the Raiders conducted a traditional, full-team practice in Napa that, Hanson said, “wasn’t one of our best.” After Hanson predicted that he would be blamed for the defensive problems, the other coaches told him he was being paranoid. Cable, following a 45-minute session with the defensive backs, summoned Brown, Washington and Hanson to an outside patio area and told Hanson, “They don’t want you in there.”

Cable told Hanson he wasn’t sure how he planned to remedy the situation and would get back to him in a couple of hours. Hanson then told his fellow assistants, “If The Man [Davis] calls you about this, tell the truth” – a statement he believes may have gotten back to Cable and increased his ire.

“If Tom knew that I had called what was going to happen, and if he thought I had talked to Mr. Davis about it, maybe he thought his cover had been blown and his plan had been thwarted,” Hanson said.

Cable never got back to Hanson that night, and the next morning he told the assistant not to come out to practice. Afterward, Hanson was summoned to a small conference room for a conversation with Cable. Hanson sat at a small rectangular table while Cable stood near the door.

Recalled Hanson: “Tom said, ‘Randy, tell me, why would these players say these things about you and not want you around them?’ I said, ‘Tom, they didn’t come to you; you went in there and created a problem. If this is true, how come I’ve never heard of this from any of the other coaches?’ He said, ‘And that’s what pisses me off – that these guys would keep this from me. I’m gonna bring ‘em in.”

At that point, Hanson said, Marshall, Washington and Brown were summoned to the room and took seats at the table. Hanson said that when questioned by Cable both Washington and Brown stuck up for his abilities.

Then, Hanson recalled, “John said, ‘Well, Tom, Randy’s been great. He knows this stuff and has been a big help for me. But I’ve been coaching for 30 years in the NFL, and when a player comes to a coach with a problem about an assistant, you’ve got to get him off the field. And I have told Randy on several occasions, ‘Don’t confuse the players.’ ”

At that point, Hanson continued, “I said, ‘John, I’m so disappointed. That’s a lie.’ From the side I heard Tom scream, ‘That’s bulls—-,’ and before I knew it Tom had blindsided me.”

Hanson said he lay on the floor, dazed, as Cable told him to “Get the f—- up.” Marshall helped him back into his chair, at which point Cable said, “I’m not gonna let you ruin my football team. If you want to be on my team, you are gonna be off the field, and you’re gonna do all the quality-control work, but you’re not to be around those f——- players. Do you accept the position?”

Recalled Hanson, “Willie was gesturing to me, ‘Just say yes,’ because he probably was worn out from pulling Tom away twice before.”

Hanson told Cable he needed time to consider the request, and Cable said, “I’ll come back to you in a couple of hours for an answer.” After going back to his room, Hanson said, he received a call from a Raiders defensive back who had heard about the incident. “He told me that what Tom said had happened in that meeting wasn’t the way it went down,” Hanson said. “It was nothing like what Tom said occurred, and several players later told me the same thing.”

Not wanting news of the incident to leak and embarrassed to be seen because of his swollen face, Hanson stayed in his room until late that night, when the pain became pronounced. Early Wednesday morning Hanson went to the emergency room at Queen of the Valley hospital in Napa, where he was given X-rays. Hospital officials, as required by law, informed the Napa Police that Hanson had said he’d suffered the injury in an assault, and an officer later arrived to question him.

“I downplayed the whole thing and didn’t give them any names,” Hanson said. “The last thing I wanted was publicity. I said, ‘You know what the message is? The Raiders are back.’ ”

The next day Hanson received a call from a hospital employee telling him he had a fractured upper left jawbone; he also suffered two cracked teeth, a bruised knee and a bruised back. He returned to his home in Livermore and tried to communicate with Cable, but the coach never contacted him.

Davis had been out of town at the time of the incident – he was on the East Coast giving a deposition to a lawyer for Kiffin, who is challenging the owner’s decision not to pay him the balance of his contract. He did not meet with Hanson until Aug. 16, 11 days after the incident.

At that meeting, Hanson said, Davis told him he’d be a distraction to the team if he were allowed to return to his former role and that such a move would be seen as Davis undermining his head coach. Davis gave Hanson three choices: Move over to the personnel side; accept Cable’s proposal to perform quality-control duties while staying away from the players; or receive the balance of his contract (which runs through the 2010 season) without returning to the organization.

“You’re Tuck-Ruling me,” Hanson told Davis, comparing the perceived injustice to the controversial replay reversal that cost the Raiders a victory over the New England Patriots in the 2001 playoffs.

Yet despite his frustration, Hanson has remained loyal to the organization. Late last month McGuinn, his attorney, told NFL.com that several Raiders players had solicited Hanson’s input about upcoming opponents, with one even giving him a team laptop that used to belong to Brown. “Al Davis doesn’t know [Hanson has] been providing detailed coaching for these guys, and Randy has not gotten any credit for it,” McGuinn told the league’s website.

A source said one Raiders assistant has also reached out to Hanson in recent weeks. Hanson declined to comment about any help he might have provided to players or others in the organization since he was barred from visiting the team’s facility.

After holding out for more than seven weeks, Hanson finally gave a 90-minute interview to Napa Police detective Mike Walund on Sept. 26 during which he turned over medical records. While Hanson is not sure what will happen next – “That’s in the police’s hands,” he said – he can’t help but root for the Raiders on Sundays.

“I watch every game,” Hanson said. “I want them to win. Once a Raider, always a Raider.”

Asked whether he plans to sue Cable and/or the organization, Hanson said, “I wish this had never happened. I was hoping it wouldn’t get to this point. But sometimes you’ve got to be a Raider, too. I mean, if he were in my situation, what would Mr. Davis do?”

Hanson: My life was threatened by Cable - NFL - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-hansonspeaks101009&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)

[JJtheVagPounder]

Yeah, and then there's that. Fuck it. Fire Cable. Get someone with balls.

[chefcraig]

It will take more than a new coach. The entire organization stinks from the head down. Remember, just a few short years ago, this team went to the Super Bowl. Now the owner wants to ban the same Super Bowl team's QB (Rich Gannon) from entering the building for daring to be slightly critical.

The situation is pathetically absurd, and I'd be willing to bet that there are more than a few NFL team owners that are loving every minute of it, having dealt with Al Davis over the years.

[JJtheVagPounder]

The only reason Al Davis hasn't been stripped of his power is because the NFL LOVES seeing him suffer. If any other owner showed the senility that Al does, they would have had their power stripped years ago. But not Al. No, he is such the prick that he cannot make anything but enemies and who's laughing now?

[chefcraig]

Totally agreed. The guy is now reaping precisely what he has sewn over the years.

By the way JJ, if you are in Fort Lauderdale, then I am just to the west of you. Have lived here since 1968, and been a die hard Dolphin and Raider fan the entire time. In fact, I once drove a drunken Ted Hendrix to his bar in Miami Lakes after a Monday Night Football game. He needed to sober up, because he was headed toward his Pro Football Hall Of Fame induction in Canton. So you could say I helped the Stork get to the HOF. :biggrin:

[Guitar Shark]

I have a theory that Al Davis has been dead for 6 months and that his son Mark is doing his best Weekend at Bernie's impression.

I mean, have you guys seen a recent picture of Al Davis? Sheesh. Tales from the Crypt.

[JJtheVagPounder]

No shit, Chef?! You're out here? Awesome. You should come to Land Lubbers. We have a Raider Booster club going on over there. Stabbler and Belitnakoff are going to make appearances there this season. BOOM!

[twonabomber]

I have a theory that Al Davis has been dead for 6 months and that his son Mark is doing his best Weekend at Bernie's impression.

I mean, have you guys seen a recent picture of Al Davis? Sheesh. Tales from the Crypt.

if Mark takes over from Al Davis, he can join the "inept sons of NFL owners club" alongside Mike Brown and Randy Lerner.

[chefcraig]

No shit, Chef?! You're out here? Awesome. You should come to Land Lubbers. We have a Raider Booster club going on over there. Stabbler and Belitnakoff are going to make appearances there this season. BOOM!

Really? The one in Plantation? I had my first wedding reception there!

[sadaist]

As a life long San Diego Charger fan, I absolutely love the Raiders impotence...and how everyone hates them.

So, to every bad thing said in this thread about Oakland...I agree. :)

[TFM_Dale]

Cable is a joke of a coach and Davis flipped his lid years ago. I'm a Lions fan and I would take another 0-16 season over dealing with Davis or Cable. At least Davis had a clue at one time, why Cable has a job still completely baffles me.

[JJtheVagPounder]

Really? The one in Plantation? I had my first wedding reception there!

Yeah dude. It's a huge Raider thing. It's pretty awesome. You should come out.

[chefcraig]

Yeah dude. It's a huge Raider thing. It's pretty awesome. You should come out.

Cool, and thanks for the invite. The place is 5 minutes from my house. http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/rock-021.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/Free-Innocent-Smileys/)

[letsrock]

You can root for any team you want. just because they might be in your locale does not mean you have to be for them. Find a new team and move on. Life is to short for crap.

Plus the Raiders are just the Browns of the west.

[kwame k]

Try being a Lions watcher! Notice I didn't say a fan ;)

[chefcraig]

You can root for any team you want. just because they might be in your locale does not mean you have to be for them. Find a new team and move on. Life is to short for crap.

Plus the Raiders are just the Browns of the west.

I dunno, friend. While I can see your point of "moving on" to a team that appears to be worth rooting for, doesn't that in and of itself represent some sort of front-running fakery, particularly if it means selling out the roots of where you live? Yeah, it's easy as shit to jump on the bandwagon of whomever appears to be the hot shoe, but it is also cheap and phony as a three dollar bill.

Personally, I have nothing but respect for the fans of teams that fail. Why? Because each season, there they are, hoping for glory, hoping to be rewarded for their years of faith. Equally, I have zero respect for gadflies that hop onto the latest winning trend, so they can be bathed in the reflected glory of a winner.

The character of a true fan is reflected not when their team is winning, but when that team is on an epic stretch of failure. The humility of losing only makes victory better. And for me, I'd rather drink and watch football with the folks that have tasted that befuddlement, that have lived and died with that spirit, than with people that just showed up to join the party when things started going well for a team again.

[Little Texan]

What ails the Raiders is the same exact thing that ails the Dallas Cowboys. The owner.

[JJtheVagPounder]

You can root for any team you want. just because they might be in your locale does not mean you have to be for them. Find a new team and move on. Life is to short for crap.

Plus the Raiders are just the Browns of the west.


Yeah, sorry, I am not going to turn coat and be a Pats fan because my team is a lump of dogshit. Fuck, why not just get a shirt with "Go Whatever Team Has a Winning Record and a Chance at the Title"? That's ridiculous. And didn't you notice I mentioned my unwaivering sense of loyalty? I am not going to ease my suffering by swinging from the nuts of a superior team.

[VAiN]

Hey, I'm a Panthers (hockey) fan, so I feel your pain guys...

Hey Chef, you ever hit the Greenbrier in Pompano? JJ & I sometimes set up shop in there and take full ownership. You should come catch some beers sometime...

[chefcraig]

Hey, I'm a Panthers (hockey) fan, so I feel your pain guys...

Hey Chef, you ever hit the Greenbrier in Pompano? JJ & I sometimes set up shop in there and take full ownership. You should come catch some beers sometime...

Ya know, for a year or so I used to live right around the corner from it, in the apartments that are across from Pompano Harness. And I've still never set foot in the place! :biggrin:

[letsrock]

This is not directed at anyone!!!!!!

I did not say to root for a winning team.
You can like whatever team you want.

[JJtheVagPounder]

Ya know, for a year or so I used to live right around the corner from it, in the apartments that are across from Pompano Harness. And I've still never set foot in the place! :biggrin:

Oh man, you have got to come with VAiN and I. We'll do the usual: load up the jukebox, drink beers and own the shit out of the place. YOu'll be at home buddy.

[Little Texan]

I guess the Raiders decided to show up this past weekend.

[chefcraig]

I guess the Raiders decided to show up this past weekend.

Nah, the Eagles simply chose not to. Westbrook was averaging around 10 yards per carry, so naturally Andy Reid decided to go with a passing attack. http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-ashamed-smileys-705.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/Free-Scared-Smileys/)

McNabb seems to have one of these doink games once or twice a season. If he has two in a row, watch the Philly faithful to start calling for Kevin Kolb to replace him.

[Kristy]

The entire organization stinks from the head down. Remember, just a few short years ago, this team went to the Super Bowl. Now the owner wants to ban the same Super Bowl team's QB (Rich Gannon) from entering the building for daring to be slightly critical.

The Raiders have gone from being embarrassing to just downright deplorable. To me, with the way that franchise is run they don't belong in the league. Even when you stop to think about it there are college teams (and maybe some high school) who would do better under the NFL moniker then the Raiders.

[Kristy]

I mean, have you guys seen a recent picture of Al Davis? Sheesh. Tales from the Crypt.

Latest AP press release on Al Davis

http://www.sixtiescity.com/Anderson/Images/AND193.jpg

[Guitar Shark]

Hmm, he looks better than I remembered.

[Little Texan]

Hmm, he looks better than I remembered.

:lmao:

[Nickdfresh]

I think they have been...

[Mushroom]

Commitment to Excrements

Just Wipe Baby!

[JJtheVagPounder]

Ah, the Raiders. MY Raiders. A team of abhorrent personalities more in love with their money than the sport they once claimed to adore. Each week as a fan is a harrowing experience with little more than disappointment as the consolation prize to your loyalty. I realize it has almost been a week since their 38-0 loss, but it has taken me that long to come up with words magniloquent enough to fully explain my feelings towards their revolting performances.

38-0

Not even a field goal. Sure, the opportunity for a three pointer didn't come as often as I would have liked. I do, however, recall a fourth and goal situation deep into the second half that Janikowski could have easily kicked in. No. Go for it. Normally, I would agree with this. "We don't have anything to lose." But with nothing on the score board and the domination the Jets had so righteously wrought, is it such a good idea? "SURE!" says Tom Cable, intent on giving up on the rest of the season.

38-0

I will give one thing to Cable, though: WAY TO GO ON FINALLY BENCHING RUSSELL. Bruce Gradkowski showed up in the second half looking like he may actually be vying for the starting position. Oh. Interception. Spoke too soon. But hey, we'll get a decent draft pick next year. IN THE SECOND ROUND. And even then we'll just pick up a free safety. Or a second string punter. Or a towel boy. And you know what? They'll ALL hold out for the bigger contract. (I realize there will be a cap, but for effect let's not acknowledge that.)

38-0

This ball club has long been torn asunder, destroyed by a senile owner and a cadre of primadonnas that just want to play for their paycheck and forget this wretched time in their careers. Way to go, gentlemen. You suck ass.

[Little Texan]

That first game really fooled me...I totally had them read wrong. They looked like they might have actually improved and were going to be a more competitive team this year, but nearly halfway into the season they are the same ol' losing Raiders.

[JJtheVagPounder]

So, the Raiders lost again. And why shouldn't they? They are the Raiders. I choose not to spend too much time writing about their lack of awesome. I choose to remember the good times when they were a team. Granted, that was a while ago, but a boy can dream.

[chefcraig]

Good God, what a display of utter futility. Jamarcus Russell continues to throw into the dirt 2 feet in front of his receivers. Of course, this is balanced out by the sheer ineptitude of Kansas City, who somehow managed to fumble a ball 25 yards forward, making it their biggest play of the day.

I'd switch over to the Dallas/Green Bay game, but that is also a non-compelling contest, currently 3-0 Packers in the third quarter. :duh:

[chefcraig]

I'd imagine that anyone else is too mind-fucked to comment on the last 6 minutes of that game. Here's hope that Bruce Gradkowski's performance moves him to starting QB. Damn, the guy moved the ball, and actually threw the football where it could be caught, instead of 2 feet over the receiver's head or at their shoelaces.

[Dan]

Good God, what a display of utter futility. Jamarcus Russell continues to throw into the dirt 2 feet in front of his receivers. Of course, this is balanced out by the sheer ineptitude of Kansas City, who somehow managed to fumble a ball 25 yards forward, making it their biggest play of the day.

I'd switch over to the Dallas/Green Bay game, but that is also a non-compelling contest, currently 3-0 Packers in the third quarter. :duh:

Go The Packers.:D

[chefcraig]

Go The Packers.:D

They suck as well.

[hideyoursheep]

if Mark takes over from Al Davis, he can join the "inept sons of NFL owners club" alongside Mike Brown and Randy Lerner.

No matter HOW BAD THNGS ARE RIGHT NOW for the Raiders, there's NO FUCKING WAY IN HELL any one of those guys are worse than that egotistical, incompetent, egg-headed tight-wad, Mike Brown.

Trust me.

None of them could ever duplicate what that guy has done since 1991.

Things are looking up now, but watch and see if he don't fuck it up next year.

[hambon4lif]

As a die-hard true-blue San Diego Charger fan, I have to say, I thoroughly enjoyed reading this thread...

I can remember traveling to Oakland many years ago when the Raiders were an actual NFL team, to represent my Chargers. It was a hostile environment to say the least. We were spit at, swung at, and a few plastic-sword wielding faggots who apparently had money to burn threw their $8 beers at us. That used to be the price of admission for entering the rivals backyard to witness what used to be one of the NFL's biggest, baddest, and bloodiest of rivalries....

Those days are gone, and the times have changed. Now the Chargers unquestionably RULE all of California. Maybe the Raiders will be able to pull one out against San Diego, but it will not happen within our lifetime. The Bolts OWN those lousy cocksmokes lock, stock, and motherfucking barrel.

I do recall them making it to the Super Bowl a few years back. The reason it stands out in memory is because it was the single-most laughable moment in sports history. They still had Chuckys playbook and were using pages out of it even though the head coach on the other sideline was .......Chucky!!! LMMFAO!!! What a bunch of fuckin' IDIOTS! I laughed incessantly for two weeks straight.

As long as Al Davis is alive, that team will never ammount to shit. There's even talk in the league office right now about putting a new rule in effect, that if any NFL team loses to the Raiders, they will be kicked out of the National Football League, and will have to play high-school and college teams to work their way back into professional football.

As a Charger fan, it's comforting to know that for the next 40 years, the Raiders will always be in the basement of the AFC West, and stinking up the place.

Fuck the Raiders, fuck their plastic-swords and rubber-spiked faggot fans, and if this post offends you in any way.....then FUCK YOU TOO!!

Chargers 4 Life, bitches!!!

[Mushroom]

the Raiders have always been my most hated team that I used to fear twice a year. nowadays, I am more intelligent and really appreciate my hatred of the fucking Raiders. And they are funny to watch, kinda like watching the 3 stooges. what a bunch of HeartLess semi-talented hacks. The Super Bowl loss to the Bucs was icing on the cake. I loved watching that game. I only felt bad for Jerry Rice. But he had plenty of sucess. Poor Tim Brown was a victim. He probably deserved to win a championship, if only for another team.

[Mushroom]

Jon Gruden is doing a great job on Monday Night Football

[Hardrock69]

I have been a Raiders fan since the days of George Blanda (boy what a kickass motherfucker HE was!).

I ignore them. They suck. Gone are the glory days of old.

They need to just sell the fucking team to someone who has deep pockets, and who gives a fuck!

They obviously do not have the cash to recruit the A-Team, and the managers must be using it as a tax dodge for them to be such a losing team.

Maybe someday *sigh*