John Murtha (D-PA) dies at 77

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  • sadaist
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jul 2004
    • 11625

    John Murtha (D-PA) dies at 77

    Congressman John Murtha Passes Away at Age 77


    WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Congressman John P. Murtha (PA-12) passed away peacefully this afternoon at 1:18 p.m. at Virginia Hospital Center in Arlington, VA. At his bedside was his family.

    Murtha, 77, was Chairman of the House Appropriations Subcommittee on Defense.

    First elected to the U.S. House of Representatives in February of 1974, Murtha dedicated his life to serving his country both in the military and in the halls of Congress. A former Marine, he became the first Vietnam War combat Veteran elected to the U.S. Congress.

    This past Saturday, February 6, 2010, Murtha became Pennsylvania's longest serving Member of Congress.

    A complete biography is available on his website.


    John Murtha Dead: Died At Age 77
    “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”
  • sadaist
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jul 2004
    • 11625

    #2
    Weird, but nowadays even 77 seems too young to go. Too bad he didn't get a chance to retire & spend more time with his family before he went. Worked until the very end.
    “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 58785

      #3
      Shit.... could have sworn I saw headlines last night that said he was improving.

      First Vietnam vet to be elected to Congress, and the first "hawk" to condemn Chimpy's invasion of Iraq.

      Didn't agree with him on everything but he will be missed. And given the right wing leanings of the PA "Democratic" party, his replacement will be a definite downgrade.

      Rest in Peace, John.
      Eat Us And Smile

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      • sadaist
        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
        • Jul 2004
        • 11625

        #4
        Originally posted by FORD
        Shit.... could have sworn I saw headlines last night that said he was improving.

        First Vietnam vet to be elected to Congress, and the first "hawk" to condemn Chimpy's invasion of Iraq.

        Didn't agree with him on everything but he will be missed. And given the right wing leanings of the PA "Democratic" party, his replacement will be a definite downgrade.

        Rest in Peace, John.
        Yeah, I had seen reports of him stabilizing/improving too. But older people, it doesn't take a whole lot to swing it the other way.
        “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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        • Va Beach VH Fan
          ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
          • Dec 2003
          • 17913

          #5
          Fucking doctors nicked his intestines....
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          • sadaist
            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
            • Jul 2004
            • 11625

            #6
            Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
            Fucking doctors nicked his intestines....
            Aw shit. Here comes the lawsuits.




            Murtha's Death Caused By Surgical Mistake

            Rep. John Murtha's (D-PA) death on Monday has been reported by various news outlets as resulting from "complications following gallbladder surgery." Via Taegan Goddard, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports that the "complications" involved a mistake by Murtha's surgeons.

            Mr. Murtha was first hospitalized with gallbladder problems in December. He had surgery Jan. 28 at the National Naval Hospital in Bethesda, Md. He went home, but was hospitalized two days later when complications developed. According to a source close to Mr. Murtha -- confirming a report in Politico -- doctors inadvertently cut Mr. Murtha's intestine during the laparoscopic surgery, causing an infection.

            Murtha's Death Caused By Surgical Mistake
            “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 58785

              #7
              And this is why the Repuke/teabagger myth of "tort reform" being a solution to anything needs to end. Doctors who do stupid shit like that deserve to be sued, especially when they kill the patient.
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              • Nitro Express
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 32798

                #8
                Well. He's either in heaven having an orgy with virgins or he's in hell having his ass burned.
                No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                • Sgt Schultz
                  Commando
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 1268

                  #9
                  Originally posted by FORD
                  And this is why the Repuke/teabagger myth of "tort reform" being a solution to anything needs to end. Doctors who do stupid shit like that deserve to be sued, especially when they kill the patient.
                  The operative term is "reform" not "Outlaw All Lawsuits". Ain't no myth that real tort reform would reduce healthcare costs.

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                  • BigBadBrian
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                    • Jan 2004
                    • 10625

                    #10
                    Originally posted by FORD
                    And this is why the Repuke/teabagger myth of "tort reform" being a solution to anything needs to end. Doctors who do stupid shit like that deserve to be sued, especially when they kill the patient.
                    He had his operation at a Navy Hospital. You can't sue a military doc.

                    I'm quite sure he also signed a form stating all risks involved with his surgery. Medicine is not a perfect science.

                    It's too bad he's gone, but now let's just all concentrate on getting a Republican in his seat!
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                    • Va Beach VH Fan
                      ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 17913

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                      He had his operation at a Navy Hospital. You can't sue a military doc.
                      That's true, but he died at a civilian hospital....

                      Virginia Hospital Center
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                      • Sgt Schultz
                        Commando
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 1268

                        #12
                        I'm sure if the Dr. was on a Govt. payroll he won't have to worry, because when Govt. screws up and kills people, it's never their fault and no one gets fired or penalized. Just ask Milwaukeeans about the 100 people who died because of an incompetent water department.

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                        • Guitar Shark
                          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 7579

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Sgt Schultz
                          I'm sure if the Dr. was on a Govt. payroll he won't have to worry, because when Govt. screws up and kills people, it's never their fault and no one gets fired or penalized. Just ask Milwaukeeans about the 100 people who died because of an incompetent water department.
                          I appreciate the sentiment, but this is just incorrect. Sovereign immunity has been largely eliminated virtually everywhere. The "government" is routinely sued for negligence and routinely pays out large settlements.
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                          • Seshmeister
                            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                            • Oct 2003
                            • 35192

                            #14
                            Originally posted by FORD
                            And this is why the Repuke/teabagger myth of "tort reform" being a solution to anything needs to end. Doctors who do stupid shit like that deserve to be sued, especially when they kill the patient.
                            Interesting.

                            So should you be sued if you make a mistake at any point?

                            In any case of course it's not the doctor that pays it's everyone since it will be paid by an insurance company who in turn will pass the expense back to doctors who pass it back to patients via a different insurance company leaving Americans paying twice as much and getting less from their healthcare than everyone else...

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                            • sadaist
                              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 11625

                              #15
                              I don't know if the doctor should be sued in this case. Murtha was old & weak already. A younger healthier patient would have probably survived. But when they remove the left something instead of the right...or leave a fucking sponge in you. That's the type of shit that these guys should pay dearly for. Problem is there is a lot of stuff that would fall into a grey area.

                              It's just probably really weighing on his loved ones knowing it was an error that caused his death, not that it was just his time.
                              “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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