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Tomorrow marks the 12th anniversary of the last album released by Van Halen.
And, it wasn't exactly a ground-breaker.
And, it wasn't exactly a ground-breaker.
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I got my money back for the VHIII cd.
After I listened to it 3 times though, i took it back to Tower Records in the mall. I stated it was skipping & somehow scratched upon opening. They gave me a fresh unopened copy. I then took this copy to a different Tower & returned it unopened.
Yeah, it was time consuming and took gas money. But it was the principal of it. That album sucked so bad I knew I would never listen to it. I didn't want it taking up valuable space. I didn't want to ever see it either as a constant reminder of what could have been. And I didn't want to add to any sales numbers.
Man, that album blew chunks.
“Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.” -
Looking back on it now, it is not a bad album but also not a great one.
Gary wasn't a good choice but he did a good job under hard conditions.Comment
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It just sounded weird to me. Like the timing was off. Or they played in different keys. Something odd. I remember listening to them with Gary on Rockline just before the album dropped. Eddie stated this was the first time he wrote & recorded this way. Gary would write vocals, then Eddie would write the music around them. Totally backwards from the norm, which might be why it sounded strange.“Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”Comment
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“Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”Comment
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What do you mean by that?
How many albums are groundbreaking? And how many must Dave alone release until he's allowed to release one that it isn't?
And by the way, it was more groundbreaking than many "classic" albums. At least, it was different.
But that aside, care to explain why the fuck did you feel the need to shit on Dave's album just because FryingDutchman pointed out that this thread is kinda lame?
Maybe you're comparing THIS waste to a kickass album full of kickass covers?
Cheers! :bottle:Comment
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Gary sounds like Cindy Brady with her bad lisp. I like the music but I can't listen to it because the dry hot vocal mix just kills it.Comment
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Apart from 5150 i always thought this was the case with Sammy, He gives Ed a rubbish vocal harmony and a rough guitar guide then Ed builds on that.
Cos it seems that after 5150 Ed kinda run out of his stockple of riffs that he had ben pulling out of the bag since the mid 70's.
In a way he may have started running out of ideas on the 1984 record, as it took a whole year to do yet the last 2 tracks come from the mid 70's.
Those gigs that gary did were pretty good, he respected Dave and brought Dave tunes to the show, And i have never heard Gary trash dave,
Enough babble from me, Yes sadist i think you are rightComment
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There were several interesting musical ideas on VH3.
However, there was a lot of waffling and wanking (much of it provided by EVH) that a real producer (not Mike Post, who was barely even involved despite his name being on it) may well have opted to leave off the album.
Sounded goddamn awful, too; about as bad as 5150 in terms of sonics.
Little of that can be attributed to Cherone, who I would agree probably did do the best he could under the circumstances. That effort might not necessarily have been doomed from the start, but the whole 1996 biz and fallout did pretty much ensure that VH3 needed to be an album of killer tunes that sounded great in order to rise above the PR obstacles the Van Halens placed in front of it in the year prior to its release.
VH3 just wasn't an album of killer tunes that sounded good.
The 2003 Diamond Dave release WAS Roth's weakest solo offering to date, but even just the track Thug Pop rose above the totality of VH3.Scramby eggs and bacon.Comment
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Well said Terry, that really sums it up well.
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Agreed with just about all of this, Terry.
My take on VHIII is that is really just a self-indugent escapade on the part of Ed who wanted to have an album that was "all Ed, all the time."
Mike Post as producer was a joke, and once that was printed on the liner notes the writing was also on the wall for that record.
I don't think there was any real "collaboration", not even with Alex. Ed had shit inside him that he needed to purge, and it all spilled out on VHIII.
Unfortunately, it came out sounding like a disjointed, steaming pile of shit.
As for this thread, Bob R can think I'm a "jackass" all he wants. But the long and the short of it is that the entire premise of this thread is completely unoriginal, radically overstates the obvious, and has nothing to build on.
Re-hashing the fact that VHIII sucked is not only beating a dead horse, but it's using the glue from the dead horse and then throwing away the empty Elmer's bottle.
Is that what we've come to in the land of VH limbo?
Originally posted by perilouspete
fryingdutchman you pretty much own everyone.....sick comebacks, well put. top class wit.Comment
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Kinda like re-telling the brown M & Ms story for the eighty-billionth time.Comment
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There are only a few tracks that I think are cool on VHIII - I totally view that album as an EVH solo album, I really don't qualify it as a 'VH album'.
The VHIII tour was pretty cool though - I got to see Eddie play a lot of CVH songs that until then I had never heard in person. Eddie was playing pretty damn well at the time too..Originally posted by wiseguyComment
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