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  • POJO_Risin
    Roth Army Caesar
    • Mar 2003
    • 40648

    Big Ten/Pac 10 Expansion

    Rumors coming out of the meetings so far today are that it's going to happen, and they just have to decide if it's going to be 14 teams, or 16.

    That's interesting.

    Everyone is talking about teams like Missouri, Texas, Pitt, Rutgers and Syracuse...

    It could be all five teams...

    I know Notre Dame will be in the discussion too. I think ND would want to be at the forefront of potential mega conferences...

    I also get the impression that they are going to wait this process out...
    "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."
  • hideyoursheep
    ROTH ARMY ELITE
    • Jan 2007
    • 6351

    #2
    I think ND actually benefits from being independent, I don't think they'll make a move.

    IF the Big 11 add 1 team, wouldn't that force a championship game?
    Last edited by hideyoursheep; 04-18-2010, 05:40 PM.

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    • POJO_Risin
      Roth Army Caesar
      • Mar 2003
      • 40648

      #3
      Notre Dame gets $15 million a year via TV money as it stands right now. The Big 10 teams get $22 million. Now, add say Notre Dame, Texas, Pitt, Syracuse and Missouri or Rutgers...and go 16 teams...or 14...or as you said...12 teams.

      That adds ND to the equation, and a championship game.

      Revenue goes up.

      For the first time in the history of ND...there's been talk that they might HAVE to do it. They have been going back and forth...likely trying to drum up something.

      My guess is that if the Big 10 is hustling right now to do this, instead of waiting a year and a half, as originally speculated, that ND and/or Texas are involved, and they don't want to miss out on one or the other.

      Or...this could have been their plan from the start...to say a year or more...then do it in six months, to keep other conferences from stealing their thunder.

      Smart either way...
      "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."

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      • hideyoursheep
        ROTH ARMY ELITE
        • Jan 2007
        • 6351

        #4
        ND gets 15 mil on it's own, and The Big 10 gets 22 mil...each team, or combined? If combined, ND is making some serious cheese on it's own as it is. Why would they want to share that with the Big 10? But on the other hand, their stock has been falling due to shitty performances, so I could understand the sudden interest in joining a conference.

        Wouldn't ND have to say goodbye to their annual USC ass-kicking, er, "rivalry game"?

        Let 'em in, I say. Pitt too. Dump Minnesota.

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        • Unchainme
          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
          • Apr 2005
          • 7746

          #5
          Originally posted by hideyoursheep
          ND gets 15 mil on it's own, and The Big 10 gets 22 mil...each team, or combined? If combined, ND is making some serious cheese on it's own as it is. Why would they want to share that with the Big 10? But on the other hand, their stock has been falling due to shitty performances, so I could understand the sudden interest in joining a conference.

          Wouldn't ND have to say goodbye to their annual USC ass-kicking, er, "rivalry game"?

          Let 'em in, I say. Pitt too. Dump Minnesota.
          22 mil. on their own.

          ND would be a great fit, it has rivalries with Penn state, scUM, MSU, Northwestern (since been dissolved ), and Purdue already. and I believe if they joined the big ten, that a rivalry with the Buckeyes would develop rather quickly.
          Still waiting for a relevant Browns Team

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          • Va Beach VH Fan
            ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
            • Dec 2003
            • 17913

            #6
            Pitt's been rumored to be the at least one of them for about two months now....
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            • Unchainme
              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
              • Apr 2005
              • 7746

              #7
              Pitt apparently had a meeting with every student athlete on campus back in december in regards to probably joining the big 10, bunch of football players of theirs tweeted about it, but quickly deleted them.
              Still waiting for a relevant Browns Team

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              • Little Texan
                Full Member Status

                • Jan 2004
                • 4579

                #8
                Pitt and Notre Dame would be better fits than Texas, being as they both are in the same region. I don't know why Texas is even being considered. They are too far away from all the other schools and there would be too much travel involved in that.

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                • Little Texan
                  Full Member Status

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 4579

                  #9
                  I get that Texas is an elite school that is annually in the national championship picture, and that's why the Big 10/11 would want them in their conference, but it doesn't make any sense from a logistics/geographical standpoint.

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                  • hideyoursheep
                    ROTH ARMY ELITE
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6351

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unchainme
                    22 mil. on their own.
                    That kinda sucks that Indiana gets the same cut as tOSU. Do they really deserve that much TV revenue? Really?

                    ...unless this includes basketball, then maybe.

                    I hate basketball.

                    Originally posted by Unchainme
                    ND would be a great fit, it has rivalries with Penn state, scUM, MSU, Northwestern (since been dissolved ), and Purdue already. and I believe if they joined the big ten, that a rivalry with the Buckeyes would develop rather quickly.
                    I'd say immediately. I'd kinda miss pulling for ND while playing M*ch*g*n.


                    Now as far a Pitt.....their home games are at Heinz Field? That could cause problems when playing The Buckeyes or Penn St.

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                    • High Life Man
                      Commando
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 1286

                      #11
                      Read this:



                      ND is going to get extorted and will join. The Big 10 is going to destroy the Big East. A super-conference indeed!

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                      • hideyoursheep
                        ROTH ARMY ELITE
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 6351

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Little Texan
                        I get that Texas is an elite school that is annually in the national championship picture, and that's why the Big 10/11 would want them in their conference, but it doesn't make any sense from a logistics/geographical standpoint.
                        IMO, it could eventually have a negative impact on UT's entire program.


                        I'd love to see Texas in the Big 10, however. :D

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                        • POJO_Risin
                          Roth Army Caesar
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 40648

                          #13
                          I think the only way they go after Texas...is if they go after two or three midwest teams. As far as travel goes...

                          aren't there such things as planes?

                          You add Missouri...and say..Texas Tech and Texas...along with the Northern Midwest teams like the cheds, Iowa, Minny...

                          for example..and it wouldn't be perfect...but not all that bad either. They'd have to travel some...but nothing more than they likely do now.

                          We're not talking about ten games here.

                          As far as Notre Dame...it would just be like them to wait for the Big East to get mauled...then join the Big East as the top dog...

                          rumblings that the ACC is wanting to pick apart the rest of the Big East...
                          "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."

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                          • POJO_Risin
                            Roth Army Caesar
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 40648

                            #14
                            Pitt has been rumored for nearly as long as Notre Dame...

                            Right after the ACC add-ons of Miami and BC...the Big 10 was talking Notre Dame and/or Pitt...

                            and Crazy-Ass Joe-Pa has been clamoring for it for years as well...
                            "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."

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                            • POJO_Risin
                              Roth Army Caesar
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 40648

                              #15
                              Right now, each Big 10 team gets 22 million...but if they roll out a super conference...that will jump up considerably...10 to 15 million a team...I'd bet...
                              "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."

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