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  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10620

    Tell Them All our Secrets, Obama, You Stupid Motherfucker!!!

    US says it has 5,113 nuclear warheads

    By ANNE GEARAN, AP National Security Writer Anne Gearan, Ap National Security Writer – Mon May 3, 5:34 pm ET

    WASHINGTON – The United States has 5,113 nuclear warheads in its stockpile and "several thousand" more retired warheads awaiting the junkpile, the Pentagon said Monday in an unprecedented accounting of a secretive arsenal born in the Cold War and now shrinking rapidly.

    The Obama administration disclosed the size of its atomic stockpile going back to 1962 as part of a campaign to get other nuclear nations to be more forthcoming, and to improve its bargaining position against the prospect of a nuclear Iran.

    "We think it is in our national security interest to be as transparent as we can be about the nuclear program of the United States," Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton told reporters at the United Nations, where she addressed a conference on containing the spread of atomic weapons.

    The U.S. has previously regarded such details as top secret.

    The figure includes both "strategic," or long-range weapons, and those intended for use at shorter range.

    The Pentagon said the stockpile of 5,113 as of September 2009 represents a 75 percent reduction since 1989.

    A rough count of deployed and reserve warheads has been known for years, so the Pentagon figures do not tell nuclear experts much they don't already know.

    Hans Kristensen, director of Nuclear Information Project, Federation of American Scientists in Washington, said his organization had already put the number at around 5,100 by reviewing budget estimates and other documents.

    The import of the announcement is the precedent it sets, Kristensen said.

    "The important part is that the U.S. is no longer going to keep other countries in the dark," he said.

    Clinton said the disclosure of numbers the general public has never seen "builds confidence" that the Obama administration is serious about stopping the spread of atomic weapons and reducing their numbers.





    But the administration is not revealing everything.

    The Pentagon figure released Monday includes deployed weapons, which are those more or less ready to launch, and reserve weapons. It does not include thousands of warheads that have been disabled or all but dismantled. Those weapons could, in theory, be reconstituted, or their nuclear material repurposed.

    Estimates of the total U.S. arsenal range from slightly more than 8,000 to above 9,000, but the Pentagon will not give a precise number.

    Whether to reveal the full total, including those thousands of nearly dead warheads, was debated within the Obama administration. Keeping those weapons out of the figure released Monday represented a partial concession to intelligence agency officials and others who argued national security could be harmed by laying the entire nuclear arsenal bare.

    A senior defense official, speaking on condition of anonymity because the overall total is still classified, did not dispute the rough estimates developed by independent analysts.

    Exposure of once-classified totals for U.S. deployed and reserve nuclear weapons is intended to nudge nations such as China, which has revealed little about its nuclear stockpile.

    "You can't get anywhere toward disarmament unless you're going to be transparent about how many weapons you have," said Sharon Squassoni, a nuclear policy analyst at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

    Russia and the United States have previously disclosed the size of their stockpiles of deployed strategic weapons, and France and Britain have released similar information. All have signed the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, which is the subject of the U.N. review that began Monday.

    The U.S. revelations are calculated to improve Washington's bargaining power with Iran's allies and friends for the drive to head off what the West charges is a covert Iranian program to build a bomb.

    Iranian President Mahmoud Ahamadinejad spoke ahead of Clinton at the conference, denouncing U.S. efforts to pressure his regime to abandon its nuclear program.

    The U.N. conference will try to close loopholes in the internationally recognized rules against the spread of weapons technology.

    Independent analysts estimate the total world stockpile of nuclear warheads at more than 22,000.

    The Federation of American Scientists estimates that nearly 8,000 of those warheads are operational, with about 2,000 U.S. and Russian warheads ready for use on short notice.

    The United States and Russia burnished their credentials for insisting that other countries forgo atomic weapons by agreeing last month to a new strategic arms reduction treaty.

    The New START treaty sets a limit of 1,550 deployed strategic nuclear warheads for each side, down from 2,200 under a 2002 deal. The pact re-establishes anti-cheating procedures that provide the most comprehensive and substantial arms control agreement since the original 1991 START treaty.

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  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10620

    #2
    Why don't you tell the Russians and Chinese where they're all at now, you fuckwad!!!
    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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    • Seshmeister
      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

      • Oct 2003
      • 35160

      #3
      Brian this thread is one of your dumbest yet.

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      • kwame k
        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
        • Feb 2008
        • 11302

        #4
        ...and that's saying something
        Originally posted by vandeleur
        E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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        • BigBadBrian
          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
          • Jan 2004
          • 10620

          #5
          KKKwame and Sesh, you both would agree with Obama no matter what, as would your liberal brethren. Try to come up with an original opinion on your own for once. Try to debate this article. You can't.
          “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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          • Seshmeister
            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

            • Oct 2003
            • 35160

            #6
            Your thread is so dumb I don't know where to start.

            What's to debate in the article, it's just stating some facts, the stupid bit is your commentary.

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            • Nickdfresh
              SUPER MODERATOR

              • Oct 2004
              • 49136

              #7
              Originally posted by Seshmeister
              Brian this thread is one of your dumbest yet.
              I know, just when he occasionally makes a good point with an unexpectedly lucid and surprisingly nuanced post, he then totally redeems himself with partisan bulwark stupidity!

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              • Nickdfresh
                SUPER MODERATOR

                • Oct 2004
                • 49136

                #8
                Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                Why don't you tell the Russians and Chinese where they're all at now, you fuckwad!!!
                Really Brian? I mean---realllllllyyyy?

                Seriously. The Pentagon is far more guilty of "giving up our secrets" via "white intelligence" with their whiz-bang press releases and support for Military Channel documentaries for defense budget marketing purposes...

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                • LoungeMachine
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 32555

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                  US says it has 5,113 nuclear warheads

                  ]
                  This just in.....

                  Both China and Russia now say that since they know the number finally, theywill both be launching a pre-emptive strike on Brie's compound.

                  Originally posted by Kristy
                  Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                  Originally posted by cadaverdog
                  I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                  • LoungeMachine
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 32555

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                    KKKwame and Sesh, you both would agree with Obama no matter what, as would your liberal brethren. .
                    Bullshit. No lib here has agreed with Obama on everything.

                    YOU on the other hand have DISAGREED with him on everything, dumbfuck

                    Originally posted by Kristy
                    Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                    Originally posted by cadaverdog
                    I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                    • LoungeMachine
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 32555

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Seshmeister
                      Your thread is so dumb I don't know where to start.

                      What's to debate in the article, it's just stating some facts, the stupid bit is your commentary.
                      The art actually lies in the thread title

                      Originally posted by Kristy
                      Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                      Originally posted by cadaverdog
                      I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                      • jhale667
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 20929

                        #12
                        Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                        Bullshit. No lib here has agreed with Obama on everything.

                        YOU on the other hand have DISAGREED with him on everything, dumbfuck


                        Much like he locked-stepped with EVERYTHING his "infallible" Chimp-in-chief did for 8 years...
                        Originally posted by conmee
                        If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                        That is all.

                        Icon.
                        Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                        I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                        Originally posted by Isaac R.
                        Then it's really true??:eek:

                        The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                        OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                        Originally posted by eddie78
                        I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                        • BigBadBrian
                          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 10620

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jhale667
                          Much like he locked-stepped with EVERYTHING his "infallible" Chimp-in-chief did for 8 years...
                          See moron, that's where you're wrong.

                          Now go home, your village is missing its idiot.
                          “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                          • jhale667
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 20929

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                            See moron, that's where you're wrong.

                            Now go home, your village is missing its idiot.
                            OH, that's right...you only thought Brownie was doing a "so-so" job. Nice try.


                            So tell us, what does your village do when YOU'RE away?
                            Originally posted by conmee
                            If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                            That is all.

                            Icon.
                            Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                            I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                            Originally posted by Isaac R.
                            Then it's really true??:eek:

                            The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                            OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                            Originally posted by eddie78
                            I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                            • knuckleboner
                              Crazy Ass Mofo
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 2927

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                              Why don't you tell the Russians and Chinese where they're all at now, you fuckwad!!!
                              i'll bite...

                              why exactly does it matter?

                              i'm not sure that china has enough for a full exchange. but even assuming they did, why would they care? they knew the U.S. had enough. 4,000 is more than enough. 5,000 is more than enough. 5,113, while an exact number, is meaningless. we would never need to get close to that number to blanket china or russia.

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