Kagan in Context: Shafting Progressive Values

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  • FORD
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    • Jan 2004
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    Kagan in Context: Shafting Progressive Values

    May 10, 2010

    Norman Solomon

    Posted: May 10, 2010 05: 06 AM

    Kagan in Context: Shafting Progressive Values

    If President Obama has his way, Elena Kagan will replace John Paul Stevens -- and the Supreme Court will move rightward. The nomination is very disturbing, especially because it's part of a pattern.

    The White House is in the grip of conventional centrist wisdom. Grim results stretch from Afghanistan to the Gulf of Mexico to communities across the USA.

    "It turns out, by the way, that oil rigs today generally don't cause spills," President Obama said in support of offshore oil drilling, less than three weeks before the April 20 blowout in the Gulf. "They are technologically very advanced."

    On numerous policy fronts, such conformity to a centrist baseline has smothered hopes for moving this country in a progressive direction. Now, the president has taken a step that jeopardizes civil liberties and other basic constitutional principles.

    "During the course of her Senate confirmation hearings as Solicitor General, Kagan explicitly endorsed the Bush administration's bogus category of 'enemy combatant,' whose implementation has been a war crime in its own right," University of Illinois law professor Francis Boyle noted last month. "Now, in her current job as U.S. Solicitor General, Kagan is quarterbacking the continuation of the Bush administration's illegal and unconstitutional positions in U.S. federal court litigation around the country, including in the U.S. Supreme Court."

    Boyle added: "Kagan has said 'I love the Federalist Society.' This is a right-wing group; almost all of the Bush administration lawyers responsible for its war and torture memos are members of the Federalist Society."

    The departing Justice Stevens was a defender of civil liberties. Unless the Senate refuses to approve Kagan for the Supreme Court, the nation's top court is very likely to become more hostile to civil liberties and less inclined to put limits on presidential power.

    Here is yet another clear indication that progressives must mobilize to challenge the White House on matters of principle. Otherwise, history will judge us harshly -- and it should.

    For more than 15 months, evidence has mounted that President Obama routinely combines progressive rhetoric with contrary actions. As one bad decision after another has emanated from the Oval Office, some progressives have favored denial -- even though, if the name "Bush" or "McCain" had been attached to the same presidential policies, the same progressives would have been screaming bloody murder.

    But enabling bad policies, with silent acquiescence or anemic dissent, encourages more of them. At this point, progressive groups and individuals who pretend that Obama's policies merely need a few tweaks, or just suffer from a few anomalous deficiencies, are whistling past a political graveyard.

    At the same time, with less than six months to go before Election Day, there are very real prospects of a big Republican victory that could shift majority control of Congress. Progressives have a huge stake in averting a GOP takeover on Capitol Hill.

    The corporate-military centrism of the Obama administration has demoralized and demobilized the Democratic Party's largely progressive base -- the same base that swept Nancy Pelosi into the House Speaker's office and then Barack Obama into the White House. National polls now show Democrats to be much less enthusiastic about voting in November than their Republican counterparts.

    The conventional political wisdom (about as accurate as the claim that "oil rigs today generally don't cause spills") is that when a Democratic president moves rightward, his party gains strength against Republicans. But Democrats reaped the whirlwind of that pseudo-logic in 1994 -- after President Clinton shafted much of the Democratic base by pushing through the corporate NAFTA trade pact against the wishes of labor, environmental and human-rights constituencies. That's how Newt Gingrich and other right-wing zealots got to run Congress starting in January 1995.

    For progressives, giving the Obama administration one benefit of the doubt after another has not prevented matters from getting worse.

    At the moment, U.S. troop levels are nearing 100,000 in Afghanistan.

    Massive quantities of oil are belching into the Gulf of Mexico.

    The White House has signaled de facto acceptance of a high unemployment rate for several more years, while offering weak GOP-lite countermeasures like tax breaks for businesses.

    Nuclear power subsidies are getting powerful support from both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue, while meaningful action against global warming is nowhere in sight.

    The Justice Department continues to backtrack on civil liberties.

    And now, if the president's nomination of Elena Kagan is successful, the result will move the Supreme Court to the right.

    Progressives should fight the Kagan nomination.

    Eat Us And Smile

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  • Blackflag
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    #2
    As predicted - you can't generate an opinion of your own.

    Bravo.

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    • jhale667
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
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      #3
      Originally posted by Blackflag
      As predicted - you can't generate an opinion of your own.

      Bravo.
      What are you crying about? The article tends to support your position - something you were incapable of doing on your own, btw...
      Originally posted by conmee
      If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

      That is all.

      Icon.
      Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
      I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


      Originally posted by Isaac R.
      Then it's really true??:eek:

      The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

      OMFG...who in their right mind...???
      Originally posted by eddie78
      I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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      • Blackflag
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        • Apr 2006
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        #4
        Of course it does. How could it not?

        But fucking come up with your own opinions one way or the other, people. Don't just xerox somebody else's.

        That article doesn't even scratch the surface why she sucks.

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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
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          #5
          Originally posted by Blackflag
          As predicted - you can't generate an opinion of your own.

          Bravo.
          Actually, that article pretty much IS my opinion. Solomon just articulated it with less 4 letter words than I would have.

          It's a shitty choice on many levels.

          The Supreme Court should not be made up of 6 Catholics and 3 Jews.

          The Supreme Court should not have three justices from New York City (or any other one location)

          The Surpeme Court should not have only graduates of so-called "Ivy League" schools.

          As far as rumors of Kagan being gay, I have no problem with a Lesbian on the Supreme Court, I just would rather it wasn't a "Log Cabin Republican".

          But then, there's reason to believe Opie Roberts already fits that description.....
          Eat Us And Smile

          Cenk For America 2024!!

          Justice Democrats


          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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          • jhale667
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 20929

            #6
            Don't be a dumbass. Nothing wrong with people posting pieces like this one to inform people so they CAN make an accurate decision. Hopefully no one's getting ALL their info from here, but it's certainly not hurting anything.

            So again - quit crying.
            Originally posted by conmee
            If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

            That is all.

            Icon.
            Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
            I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


            Originally posted by Isaac R.
            Then it's really true??:eek:

            The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

            OMFG...who in their right mind...???
            Originally posted by eddie78
            I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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            • Blackflag
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              • Apr 2006
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              #7
              Originally posted by FORD
              Actually, that article pretty much IS my opinion.
              Of course it is. All your opinions come from the internet.

              Why don't you take a look at her qualifications and forget about her religion or orientation, clown.

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              • jhale667
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                • Aug 2004
                • 20929

                #8
                Originally posted by FORD
                Actually, that article pretty much IS my opinion. Solomon just articulated it with less 4 letter words than I would have.

                It's a shitty choice on many levels.

                The Supreme Court should not be made up of 6 Catholics and 3 Jews.

                The Supreme Court should not have three justices from New York City (or any other one location)

                The Surpeme Court should not have only graduates of so-called "Ivy League" schools.

                As far as rumors of Kagan being gay, I have no problem with a Lesbian on the Supreme Court, I just would rather it wasn't a "Log Cabin Republican".

                But then, there's reason to believe Opie Roberts already fits that description.....

                Whoa, were they on their way to a Village People show or some shit?
                Originally posted by conmee
                If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                That is all.

                Icon.
                Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                Originally posted by Isaac R.
                Then it's really true??:eek:

                The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                Originally posted by eddie78
                I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                • LoungeMachine
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                  • Jul 2004
                  • 32555

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Blackflag

                  But fucking come up with your own opinions one way or the other, people. Don't just xerox somebody else's.

                  That article doesn't even scratch the surface why she sucks.




                  Compared to this:?????

                  Elena Kagan.
                  I think she's a horrible choice.

                  Discuss.

                  http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100510...20100510024833



                  STFU until you can practice what you preach, hypocrite.

                  Originally posted by Kristy
                  Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                  Originally posted by cadaverdog
                  I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                  • Blackflag
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                    • Apr 2006
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by jhale667
                    Nothing wrong with people posting pieces like this one to inform people so they CAN make an accurate decision.
                    Hmm...what exactly are you deciding, Hale?

                    We decide nothing, we just throw around opinions. So if one is incapable of forming one, it's kind of a liability.

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                    • Blackflag
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                      Compared to this:?????
                      She is a horrible choice.

                      You disagree, fag?

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                      • LoungeMachine
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                        • Jul 2004
                        • 32555

                        #12
                        I don't diasagree you're horrible.
                        I don't diagree you're a fag.

                        I have't read enough to form an opinion on her yet.



                        I'm just constantly amazed at your blatant troll-like hypocrisy.
                        Originally posted by Kristy
                        Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                        Originally posted by cadaverdog
                        I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                        • Blackflag
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                          • Apr 2006
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                          #13
                          A discussion is a give-and-take. It's not posting shit from the internet.

                          Starting a discussion is hypocrisy?

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                          • LoungeMachine
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                            • Jul 2004
                            • 32555

                            #14
                            No, you're posting shit on the internet.....



                            And that's all it is, too. shit
                            Originally posted by Kristy
                            Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                            Originally posted by cadaverdog
                            I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                            • chefcraig
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Apr 2004
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                              #15
                              The thing I'm having difficulty with is the woman's experience as a judge. OK, Dean of Harvard Law School sounds pretty impressive, but I understand that before that she only served as a clerk. Now I get that she has a bunch of degrees, but doesn't practical application of this knowledge have to be displayed someplace? I mean otherwise, doesn't this more or less make her a theorist?

                              Think about this...a person goes to broadcasting school to learn about being a baseball announcer. Having studied the game for years, this person then learns what is expected in the art of calling play by play. After getting a few jobs working for some minor league teams, the announcer gets hired to broadcast Yankees games. Now, is that any reason for the manager of the Yankees to hire the announcer as a first baseman?









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