Unreleased CVH Tracks Should Be Redone For The New VH Album [Archive]

Big Troubles

06-16-2010, 07:52 PM

I was listening to Eye's of the Night today and thought if it was re-done today, with some production, it would sound great...Then I started thinking about others they did. I would love to hear Down in Flames done and Honolulu Baby Any thoughts?

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ThrillsNSpills

06-17-2010, 02:25 PM

Dan

06-17-2010, 02:52 PM

Yes,Yes And Yes.:D

Catfish

06-17-2010, 02:56 PM

I've been thinking for years that I'd rather hear an album of all the unreleased stuff re-recorded today. Besides the fact that they're good songs and it would be cool as fuck, I have to believe that collection of songs would be better than any multi-layered guitar track-laden record VH could put out now.

Catfish

06-17-2010, 03:00 PM

Imagine the field day Alex would have on Eyes of the Night with the kit he uses today, compared to the kit he used back in the club days. Hell, the kit he started using in 1982, for that matter...

Big Troubles

06-17-2010, 06:43 PM

it just completley pisses me off to no end knowing that Ed KNOWS what we want. Go get married Ed. Send yer kid thru college. Start another drug habit. Meanwhile... He always prided himself on being a musician and a professional.

Think he'd want to showcase his talents.

Unless of course..:umm:

Catfish

06-17-2010, 07:27 PM

Ed is a BASTARD!

Dan

06-18-2010, 01:29 AM

Put This On The New Album.:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABWQd6BddJA

fryingdutchman

06-18-2010, 06:30 AM

Tabula Rasa!!!

:killer:

fryingdutchman

06-18-2010, 06:31 AM

"Put Out The Lights"

bueno bob

06-18-2010, 03:42 PM

I don't really care about a new album at this point. Much as it pains me to say it, I'm just not interested in anything "VAN HALEN" brand unless it's the original four members, so...unless secret things are afoot at Mystery Mountain (which I'll be a better judge of once Hagar starts opening for the Aeroshits, and more to the point, who's playing bass for him...), I don't really care too much about new music. However, some years back I suggested here a two CD & 1 DVD set of rare Van Halen stuff that they could throw out there...stuff I'm sure we'd all buy...

CD #1
01) Let's Get Rockin'
02) Voodoo Queen
03) House of Pain (Original Version)
04) We Die Bold
05) Show No Mercy
06) Get the Show On the Road
07) She's the Woman
08) Put Out the Lights
09) Babe, Don't Leave Me Alone
10) Honolulu Baby
11) Young & Wild
12) Bring On the Girls
13) Last Night
14) Light in the Sky

CD #2
01) I Wanna Be Your Lover
02) Piece of Mind
03) Big Trouble
04) Any Time, Any Place
05) Anything to Make it Right
06) Glitter
07) Gentleman of Leisure
08) Kicks
09) Baritone Slide
10) Forget 1
11) Ripley
12) Lie to You
13) Show Your Love

DVD:
Oakland '81 (Entire Performance)

Is there any of us who would NOT buy that? Seriously, I think that would be more of a winner than a new album at this point....

bueno bob

06-18-2010, 03:42 PM

And then call it "Cruel & Unusual Punishment"....

;)

Catfish

06-18-2010, 03:45 PM

It'll never happen. Eddie doesn't want to "look back." Unless it's to get Hagar or Roth to do a fast cash-grab tour, that is...

Jagermeister

06-18-2010, 03:54 PM

It'll never happen. Eddie doesn't want to "look back." Unless it's to get Hagar or Roth to do a fast cash-grab tour, that is...

I agree. BB's set would be the bomb though. That should would sell I think. Really most semi VH fans do not know those bootlegs exist. That would all be "New" Material to the majority.

Big Troubles

06-18-2010, 05:41 PM

I never heard Any Time, Any Place or Anything to Make it Right or even Lie to You... where can i find these??

ThrillsNSpills

06-18-2010, 06:33 PM

I never heard Any Time, Any Place or Anything to Make it Right or even Lie to You... where can i find these??

they're '84 outtakes and not circulated.

Big Troubles

06-18-2010, 06:58 PM

well wtf...? lol 1984 outtakes like "fresh" which i still say is fake btw...so r these instrumentals? gonna have to do some digging

chefcraig

06-18-2010, 07:20 PM

well wtf...? lol 1984 outtakes like "fresh" which i still say is fake btw...so r these instrumentals? gonna have to do some digging

Yeah, "Fresh" is completely bogus. There are a few tracks available that sound as if they were recorded on a crummy cassette recorder, and yes, they are instrumentals - if you want to call mindless noodling an instrumental. This one however, sounds different from the majority.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5JSkmLQhlQ&feature=related

There are also apparently hours of the "1984" synth doodle recorded as well, if you really are in the mood for slitting your wrists. Here is a brief (by comparison) live version of what you can expect if you run into it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWh1FJrdRtI

ThrillsNSpills

06-18-2010, 07:27 PM

well wtf...? lol 1984 outtakes like "fresh" which i still say is fake btw...so r these instrumentals? gonna have to do some digging

fresh, is bullshit

it's a kid with a rockman.

chefcraig

06-18-2010, 07:40 PM

A few more contenders, with spectacularly awful sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjZm0waLG-I&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brHagyNaCdw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tsVM0w4q5g

ThrillsNSpills

06-18-2010, 07:42 PM

Big Troubles

06-18-2010, 07:45 PM

ThrillsNSpills

06-18-2010, 08:09 PM

ThrillsNSpills

06-18-2010, 08:12 PM

chefcraig

06-18-2010, 09:03 PM

Shape Your In is a good number. By Paul revere if Im not mistaken? Or by The Band? Just What You Wanted (Needed) is great as well. Down in Flames, Eyes and Piece of Mind are my top 3 that the NEW VH could pull off on a new album...But Im with the majority on this topic...Id rather a full release of cleaned up "Unreleased" tunes....Fuck that shit would outsell all previous VH records.

"Shape Your In" is a unreleased VH original, whereas "Shape I'm In" is a tune written and recorded by The Band. I agree, a release of these tunes would be spectacular, and it would be fun to play "spot the riff" by picking out which parts of tunes ended up in other officially released songs in the band's catalogue.

Big Troubles

06-18-2010, 09:07 PM

"Shape Your In" is a unreleased VH original, whereas "Shape I'm In" is a tune written and recorded by The Band. I agree, a release of these tunes would be spectacular, and it would be fun to play "spot the riff" by picking out which parts of tunes ended up in other officially released songs in the band's catalogue.

Fuck I gave them all a listen after posting. when this boot came on I was fkn embarrassed. LOL i was mixing up the songs they covered from paul revere with the song The Shape Im In from boneyard radio today :biggrin: so THATS what weed does after several years? lol good to know.

ThrillsNSpills

06-19-2010, 12:07 PM

Big Troubles

06-19-2010, 10:51 PM

Im still stuck on this being a GREAT way to introduce a NEW VH CD this summer. wishful anyways

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Big Troubles

06-19-2010, 10:57 PM

Was the extended acoustic intro to Simple Rhyme ever made available?
Damn BT, you got me thinking about unreleased tracks.
It's kind of a shame that you can't tell that Michael Anthony can play from the albums but on some of the live club stuff he's good. talk about getting screwed in the mix his whole career.

ya Ive been spending the last two years straight playing the old unreleased and bar songs on my ipod. LOL keep running scenarios of "How" they could have a spectacular comeback. Plus I also wonder why they never got the kind of treament say Metallica did with their MTV Special. Im sure Dave would do all kinds of stuff that Ed would be too embarrassed about or whatever. Also wonder why CVH never did sponsored concerts like Live Aid, Woodstock,Farm Aids and say the Haiti one that just went. American Idol w/ guest stars VH? Or SNL with VH...? I dunno? Then I wonder if Im listening to too much Van Halen? lol whats "too much" anyways?

Big Troubles

06-19-2010, 11:04 PM

the riff is a dead give away for classic VH sound and its catchy enough for radio play. it would start a nice summer off. July 4th? :)

Big Troubles

06-19-2010, 11:15 PM

If only Dave had a radio show..lol.. I could call in and- ask him about all the unreleased goodies and if its ever talked about in circles?-

DFVH5150

10-01-2010, 03:57 PM

1. Down in Flames
2. Big Trouble
3. Put Out the Lights
4. Let's Get Rockin'
5. Get the Show on the Road
6. Light in the Sky
7. Here's Just What She Wanted
8. Show No Mercy
9. Bullethead
10. Peace of Mind

Dave's Dradle

04-10-2011, 08:35 AM

http://www.vhtrading.com/vault/1984-01.jpg

I am sure a lot of you guys have seen this before, but thought I would post it since the discussion is unreleased VH and 1984 out takes came up.

sadaist

04-10-2011, 09:22 AM

Also wonder why CVH never did sponsored concerts like Live Aid, Woodstock,Farm Aids and say the Haiti one that just went. American Idol w/ guest stars VH? Or SNL with VH...? I dunno?

One thing I always found a bit odd was there were none of the 4 Van Halen members present for Ronnie James Dios 'Hear N Aid'. That song We're Stars had just about everyone from hard rock imaginable.

I know Vince Neil was in the chorus, but missed his chance to sing a verse because it fell on the same day Crue was recording the Smokin' In The Boys Room video. But no Van Halen there? All those guys contributing guitar solos? All those singers? Fuck me! Even Dan Aykroyd and Spinal Tap guys were in the chorus.

I wonder if they were invited & declined, couldn't make it due to other arrangements, or got the cold shoulder.

indeedido

04-11-2011, 03:13 PM

I'd love to hear a proper demo/recording of CVH doing Bullethead.

DLR Bridge

06-20-2011, 11:15 PM

There are so many parts of old unreleased songs I'd love to see get used presently. Down in Flames and Honalulu Baby stand on their own, but songs like Believe Me or Eyes of the Night have great riffs all over the place but very dated themes and lyrics. I'm all for butchered old songs as ingredients for new ones ala Where Were You Last Night/Hang'Em High. If no bootleg ever saw light of day and we all heard the sweet riff to the chorus of Light in the Sky for the first time this summer, we'd all be fainting from it's awesomeness without knowing it was 34 years old. Holy crap was that skinny kid from Holland ever ahead of his time.

Jetstream

01-02-2012, 07:02 PM

I would love to hear Angel Eyes which Roth sung and played guitar to, it had a nice Zeppelin feel to it and showcased what we already know and others want to deny...Roth has a awesome voice

BITEYOASS

01-02-2012, 09:32 PM

"Piece of Mind" should definitely be on the new album.

qikgts

01-06-2012, 12:10 AM

Anyone else rock to the unreleased tracks and demo stuff tonight? I've been going off for about 20 minutes with no end in sight!!! Over and over, then the 6 pack!!! Good thing I have plenty of beerz!!!

redfire

01-06-2012, 12:18 AM

I'd love to hear an updated version of Down in Flames.

qikgts

01-06-2012, 12:25 AM

I would too. That song has major CVH elements that would be killer to hear with some new riffs in place.

Little Texan

01-06-2012, 12:25 AM

I'd love to hear an updated version of Down in Flames.

Down In Flames and Big Trouble, my favorite two unreleased VH tunes.

FORD

01-06-2012, 12:28 AM

Might be interesting to hear what they could do with this one.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ6XtAWFuew

Dr. Love

01-06-2012, 12:28 AM

Eyes of the Night
Put Out The Lights
Babe Don't Leave Me Alone
Let's Get Rockin'
Get This Show On The Road

might be a little weird if they did Young and Wild

Dan

01-06-2012, 12:29 AM

Thanks To Ed's Pool Cleaner For The Inside Information On This One.:D

78/84 guy

01-06-2012, 12:29 AM

Bullithead tears my head off !! I would love to see them do that over. But I don't think that will happen.

qikgts

01-06-2012, 12:30 AM

I'm listening to Babe Don't Leave Me Alone right now. Makes me really wonder what the other 12 songs will be...

Unchainme

01-06-2012, 12:32 AM

House of Pain

the demo is so much better than the 1984 cut.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6cjeT1mDOI

Dr. Love

01-06-2012, 12:34 AM

agreed

FORD

01-06-2012, 12:36 AM

Eyes of the Night
Put Out The Lights
Babe Don't Leave Me Alone
Let's Get Rockin'
Get This Show On The Road

might be a little weird if they did Young and Wild

Get The Show On The Road is doubtful, since it pretty much evolved into Romeo Delight......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfrVeueKTd4

Dr. Love

01-06-2012, 12:44 AM

eh, just that couple lines, they can replace it ... or leave it for all I care, I like it.

Little Texan

01-06-2012, 02:22 AM

This might be an unpopular opinion, but I honestly never cared for She's The Woman, and I hope it's not on the new album. There are so many other better, rocking, unreleased tunes by VH other than that particular one.

gbranton

01-06-2012, 02:28 AM

I'm sort of doubting She's The Woman will even be on the new album.

DlocRoth

01-06-2012, 02:30 AM

I'm sort of doubting She's The Woman will even be on the new album.

Nice take and entirely possible.

Rikk

01-06-2012, 07:22 AM

Of course SHE'S THE WOMAN is on the new album. Why else would they have played it? Was the arrangement changed? If so, it means they put the work into recording it (removing the MEAN STREET section and putting something else in).

I always loved that song...hopefully, it's finally gracing a VH album. Always thought it was a good choice if they were going to dig out old tunes (though BIG TROUBLE is an even more obvious choice).

Rikk

01-06-2012, 07:27 AM

Just listening to it now. The new bridge is sweet. The song sounds great. Wolfie is really playing well too.

Carmine

01-06-2012, 07:38 AM

Just listening to it now. The new bridge is sweet. The song sounds great. Wolfie is really playing well too.

I was just admiring his improved chops myself. The kid sounds very good...it's nice to actually HEAR the bass again on a Van Halen song...

righthereisay

01-06-2012, 09:08 AM

My dream would be Just What You Wanted, Peace of Mind, We Die Bold, Get the Show on the Road,...basically almost all of them. All cleaned up and recorded with the Van Halen 1 equipment and Ted Templeman producing.

binnie

01-06-2012, 09:13 AM

I'd much rather hear freshly penned tune, to be honest. I fear that re-recording old demos could end up sounding like pastiche.

Jérôme Frenchise

01-06-2012, 09:26 AM

I'd much rather hear freshly penned tune, to be honest. I fear that re-recording old demos could end up sounding like pastiche.

I agree, I'm happy with the Zero demos and would rather discover real new stuff.
I'd be disappointed if they only emptied the drawers.
If "She's the woman" is in the album (dig the kickass funk-rock riff, really dig that vibe
in the early stuff, and in tunes like "Little guitars" or "Drop dead legs", or even "House
of pain") it'll be OK for me, but not more than this one, as it's novelty I'm craving for
from VH.

Anyway, the dice have already been cast, and I'll take whatever is in the record -
I'd even take it if it was just all about Irish jig covers! :biggrin:

Rikk

01-06-2012, 09:33 AM

I was just admiring his improved chops myself. The kid sounds very good...it's nice to actually HEAR the bass again on a Van Halen song...

For sure. I imagine we'll actually hear deep and plunky bass on this album...for once. (And I never thought much of Eddie as a bass player.)

diamondsgirl

01-06-2012, 09:34 AM

Get The Show On The Road is doubtful, since it pretty much evolved into Romeo Delight......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfrVeueKTd4

whenever I hear this, I think of how Dave always "forgets the fucking words" when he does Romeo and I would imagine that maybe he has these lyrics running through his head too.

Rikk

01-06-2012, 09:38 AM

whenever I hear this, I think of how Dave always "forgets the fucking words" when he does Romeo and I would imagine that maybe he has these lyrics running through his head too.

In actuality, I think his "I forgot the fucking words" was a schtick he did consistently for ROMEO DELIGHT. He always seemed to do it!

Mr Walker

01-06-2012, 09:39 AM

Think 'Angel Eyes' will make it on there?

diamondsgirl

01-06-2012, 10:04 AM

In actuality, I think his "I forgot the fucking words" was a schtick he did consistently for ROMEO DELIGHT. He always seemed to do it!

I think it became shtick due to the crowds reaction, but originally (waay back in the day) he may have had the "show on the road" lyrics jumbled up in his head.

This past tour he mixed up ATBL with EWS. I think he only did that at one show. Pretty funny.

whats up Rikk??

diamondsgirl

01-06-2012, 10:06 AM

so obvious that they should have put out a double CD. One with tweaked demos and one with new material.

thats what DG calls the Best of Both Worlds.

Carmine

01-06-2012, 10:16 AM

We Die Bold would blow my mind....I always dug that tune

Matt White

01-06-2012, 10:19 AM

I'm just hoping that the sound is STELLAR....

I want AL's drums mixed LOUD....and the bass to frickin' POP......EVH's guitar tone sound reflect that new line of amps he's got (wonder if he used that tiny version for last nights gig?)............

And DAVE needs to be the focus........for the 1st time decades (lets not think of how many.....Fark we're old!) I predict there will not be A SINGLE love song on a VH release..........

fourthcoming

01-06-2012, 10:21 AM

Ok guys and gals, so I've been a "peeping Tom" here for the last few years checking in on a daily basis for VH news. Let's face it, The Roth Army and VHND seem to be the only sources of credible Van Halen news online. I am proud to say Ijust broke my Roth Army hymen and am now a member of the Roth Army. Completely stoked for the MSG shows. I was able to see them 3 times in 2007-2008. Once on Long Island and twice at MSG...the electricity and vibe at the MSG shows blew away the Long Island show. Unfortunately I was too young to see them in all their glory back in the day. Was fortunate enough to see Diamond Dave on the Eat Em' and Little Ain't Enough tours and on the DLR band tour. Saw "She's the woman" on youtube from Cafe Wha?...Very cool to see after listening to that tune and so many other unreleased for years and years. So many kick ass unreleased tunes from way back when that I wouldn't mind hearing, but honestly I am really hoping to hear a new album with all new material. One unreleased tune I always wanted to hear as a cleaned up studio track would be "Wild Fire". I don't mean to come across as geeky, but damn, I'm friggin psyched for the return of the mighty VH and I'm damn glad to be a part of the Roth Army.

Angel

01-06-2012, 10:56 AM

:thumb: Welcome! Don't be shy, we don't bite....much. ;)

Kristy

01-06-2012, 11:05 AM

I have a question: who produced this new album? Was it Templeton?

fourthcoming

01-06-2012, 11:06 AM

Thank you Angel, appreciate the welcome.

Zing!

01-06-2012, 11:06 AM

If it's true there are 13 tracks on the new record, any chance they might do a half and half thing, like Side 1 reworking a half a dozen from the vault, and Side 2 new material? If there were still sides, I mean.

Jérôme Frenchise

01-06-2012, 11:08 AM

I have a question: who produced this new album? Was it Templeton?

:biggrin: Are you kidding?

Kristy

01-06-2012, 11:10 AM

Then who?

Jérôme Frenchise

01-06-2012, 11:11 AM

If there were still sides, I mean.

:biggrin: Yeah, records have had only one side for a long time.

That said, there might be a vinyl issue of the new album, I guess.

Jérôme Frenchise

01-06-2012, 11:12 AM

Then who?

Ross Hogarth... Where were you, Kristy? :)

Rikk

01-06-2012, 11:23 AM

Rikk

01-06-2012, 11:25 AM

I think it became shtick due to the crowds reaction, but originally (waay back in the day) he may have had the "show on the road" lyrics jumbled up in his head.

This past tour he mixed up ATBL with EWS. I think he only did that at one show. Pretty funny.

whats up Rikk??

What's up, DG? Great to see you here.

Been wanting to talk to you one of these days. Glad to see you seem to be okay.

Gotta admit, Jer was so on my mind yesterday. He would be grinning from ear to ear reading and writing with us. This is what he (and so many of us) were waiting for.

I gotta add: Happy Birthday to a stellar individual for yesterday.

fourthcoming

01-06-2012, 11:44 AM

Rikk

01-06-2012, 11:50 AM

Thanks Rick.....definitely is a great time to be a VH fan. After all the bs and the two years of waiting around and weeding through all the bogus rumors.....it's almost surreal to think that Van Halen time is finally here!

Yep. It's definitely NOT "5150 time".

http://images.thetruthaboutcars.com/2011/04/SammyHagarBusted-500px-483x350.jpg

Unchainme

01-06-2012, 12:03 PM

Yep. It's definitely NOT "5150 time".

http://images.thetruthaboutcars.com/2011/04/SammyHagarBusted-500px-483x350.jpg

"Check it out, they're arresting him because he sucks!"

"UHUHUHUHUHHUHUH"

http://cdn1.droidmill.com/media/market-media/com.stickycoding.beavis_and_butthead_0.png

if6was9

01-06-2012, 12:36 PM

Jagermeister

01-06-2012, 12:47 PM

Rikk

01-06-2012, 01:05 PM

Seriously guys, these unreleased tracks were not unreleased without a reason. They sound pretty lame. Telling the truth, most of the early stuff, including Gene's demo, was mediocre. It was Ted Templeman who turned these tracks into real gems that we love so much.

BTW, who produced "A Different Kind of Truth"?

Can't agree with this at all.

There are countless times in history that unreleased tracks SHOULD have come out. Dylan and Springsteen have made a career out of leaving some of their best work off albums and then regretting it later.

There are tracks off the demos that I like more than some of those that got on the albums. I actually prefer SHE'S THE WOMAN, BIG TROUBLE and PUT OUT THE LIGHTS to a few varied tracks from the Six-Pack.

I do not think all the songs on the new album are old songs...but it's nice that a few have been dusted off and given the proper treatment. Gonna be nice to hear SHE'S THE WOMAN with a new bridge and not think in the back of my mind "this is an embryo with part of it being later put in another song".

Matt White

01-06-2012, 01:10 PM

LED ZEPPELIN are the cheif example of releasing "unreleased" tracks.....PHYSICAL GRAFITI is 75% older material..............

Same thinking as RIKK.....1 or 2 old tracks of this CD at the most.....it'll be the stuff they've been working on since the 90's + some newer material......

And hopefully there will be MORE TO COME

if6was9

01-06-2012, 01:20 PM

I do not think all the songs on the new album are old songs...but it's nice that a few have been dusted off and given the proper treatment. Gonna be nice to hear SHE'S THE WOMAN with a new bridge and not think in the back of my mind "this is an embryo with part of it being later put in another song".

Let's hope there is some actually NEW stuff coming up. "She's the Woman" is just an ambryo and it should be left like this. What worries me is the new bridge, much worse than what was later used in "Mean Street". It echoes Sammy and Gary years, especially chord progressions. I don't hear a decent riff in this part, just some pointless noodling.

I have a bad feeling about this.

Jagermeister

01-06-2012, 01:34 PM

Let's hope there is some actually NEW stuff coming up. "She's the Woman" is just an ambryo and it should be left like this. What worries me is the new bridge, much worse than what was later used in "Mean Street". It echoes Sammy and Gary years, especially chord progressions. I don't hear a decent riff in this part, just some pointless noodling.

I have a bad feeling about this.

Damn. You should post more dude. I like the fact that you are not afraid to speak your mind. No worries man. They spent way too much time fucking around with this album for it not to be good. I also have some concerns but they are waining.

Angel

01-06-2012, 01:53 PM

Let's hope there is some actually NEW stuff coming up. "She's the Woman" is just an ambryo and it should be left like this. What worries me is the new bridge, much worse than what was later used in "Mean Street". It echoes Sammy and Gary years, especially chord progressions. I don't hear a decent riff in this part, just some pointless noodling.

I have a bad feeling about this.We bitch and moan from years that we want them to pull some out of the vault and record them...and this is what we get????? Stop looking a gift horse in the mouth for fucks sake!!!

if6was9

01-06-2012, 02:00 PM

Damn. You should post more dude.

Since you insist :)

I've listened very carefully to the bass in both versions of "She's the Woman". It's almost the same line (not identical but very close). On the one hand this is understandable since this is an old track. On the other hand, this is a new version from 2012, so I was expecting an input from the new member of the band.

Which leads me to the question: how much of Wolf is there in the basslines and how much of Ed? Is Wolf a full-fledged member of VH or is he playing only what Ed tells him to play? I certainly hope it's the first option, mostly because I don't want this album to be another Eddie's solo project. We've heard enough of his "solo" 5150 music in the last 20 years.

Rikk

01-06-2012, 02:29 PM

if6was9

01-06-2012, 04:47 PM

Sure I'm whining. And it seems I have a good reason, which is called "Tattoo":
http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?64025-quot-Tattoo-quot-Snippet-Available-on-Amazon

Rikk

01-06-2012, 04:52 PM

Sure I'm whining. And it seems I have a good reason, which is called "Tattoo":
http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?64025-quot-Tattoo-quot-Snippet-Available-on-Amazon

Oh my God, you've heard 30 fucking seconds. If you heard the first 30 seconds of PUSH COMES TO SHOVE when sampling FAIR WARNING, you'd have thought the whole album probably a failure.

30 seconds says absolutely fucking nothing.

Roth & Roll

01-06-2012, 04:56 PM

Oh my God, you've heard 30 fucking seconds. If you heard the first 30 seconds of PUSH COMES TO SHOVE when sampling FAIR WARNING, you'd have thought the whole album probably a failure.

30 seconds says absolutely fucking nothing.

Word.

Apparently, some folks have already prejudged the new song and album without hearing it... certainly smells of Sambots to me...

Did a Sheep escape the 'Pen, Rikk?

fryingdutchman

01-06-2012, 05:01 PM

Oh my God, you've heard 30 fucking seconds. If you heard the first 30 seconds of PUSH COMES TO SHOVE when sampling FAIR WARNING, you'd have thought the whole album probably a failure.

30 seconds says absolutely fucking nothing.

Excellent post Rikk!!

People need to fucking chill. It reminds me of 8pm last night when some noobs here were shit-talking the band because the live web stream wasn't up.

I know that after all we've been through since 1984 and again in 1996 it can be easy to shoot first and ask questions later when talking about VH.

But some folks need to step back and get some perspective. We're getting a media blitz, club performances, tour dates, new record, new music...and a re-energized Classic Van Halen.

This is all GOOD FUCKING STUFF!!!!!!!

Nothin' but YEAH!!!

if6was9

01-06-2012, 05:01 PM

Apparently, some folks have already prejudged the new song and album without hearing it... certainly smells of Sambots to me...

Did a Sheep escape the 'Pen, Rikk?

I've been waiting for this album for more than half of my life, so probably you can call me a sheep. Yeah, Dave's sheep, that's for sure.

Roth & Roll

01-06-2012, 05:06 PM

I've been waiting for this album for more than half of my life, so probably you can call me a sheep. Yeah, Dave's sheep, that's for sure.

Ok, cool - so then we're in the same boat, man. I've been waiting for a new DLR/VH album since I bought 1984 as a 15 year old back in January 1984.

If you've been waiting half your life, at least have an open mind and wait until you hear the whole song before rushing to judgement - you may find yourself pleasantly surprised.

bueno bob

01-06-2012, 05:09 PM

Well, all I've got to say about all that is this.

"Let's Get Rockin."

:D

Good to see all you clowns again....finally got some good news in Howdy Doody Land, right? Crazy...never thought the day would arrive...very exciting stuff.

if6was9

01-06-2012, 05:17 PM

If you've been waiting half your life, at least have an open mind and wait until you hear the whole song before rushing to judgement - you may find yourself pleasantly surprised.
Peace, brother. You are right, one more month won't make a difference. I'm just extremely disappointed with this clip, that's all.

Rikk

01-06-2012, 05:19 PM

Word.

Apparently, some folks have already prejudged the new song and album without hearing it... certainly smells of Sambots to me...

Did a Sheep escape the 'Pen, Rikk?

Sure fucking sounds like it.

Dufus here may need a place in the Pen. I know a good argument. And I know an argument just trying to be made.

Rikk

01-06-2012, 05:20 PM

Excellent post Rikk!!

People need to fucking chill. It reminds me of 8pm last night when some noobs here were shit-talking the band because the live web stream wasn't up.

I know that after all we've been through since 1984 and again in 1996 it can be easy to shoot first and ask questions later when talking about VH.

But some folks need to step back and get some perspective. We're getting a media blitz, club performances, tour dates, new record, new music...and a re-energized Classic Van Halen.

This is all GOOD FUCKING STUFF!!!!!!!

Nothin' but YEAH!!!

I cannot honestly imagine any VH fan trying to be in a bad mood at this very moment. If they are, they're probably quivering in misery, hoping that Sam comes back someday so they can do FOR UNLAWFUL CARNAL KNOWLEDGE II.

Rikk

01-06-2012, 05:22 PM

Peace, brother. You are right, one more month won't make a difference. I'm just extremely disappointed with this clip, that's all.

Understood. But don't act like the guy waiting to get laid for 30 years only to complain that the girl has a slight whiff of sweat. Just light some strong incense and enjoy the ride.

if6was9

01-06-2012, 05:25 PM

But don't act like the guy waiting to get laid for 30 years.
Do you know this situation from your own experience?

Rikk

01-06-2012, 05:35 PM

Do you know this situation from your own experience?

Oh my God, read the rest of the analogy before getting your panties in a clit knot.

You whining, attention-seeking piss shot.

if6was9

01-06-2012, 05:40 PM

I love you, too :fufu:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE6LI1xISto

Va Beach VH Fan

01-06-2012, 05:54 PM

Boy, that guy gets around... That's the same fucker that stole all of our "exclusive" videos....

Unchainme

01-06-2012, 06:00 PM

...what is there to bitch about?

I'm not too huge on "Tattoo"..but "She's the woman" has me psyched like a motherfucker. Van FUCKING Halen is back bitches.

Only thing that can top this is if they fucking released every video in their vaults INCLUDING the UNCUT OAKLAND FOOTAGE!

Big Fat Sammy

01-06-2012, 06:56 PM

Oh my God, you've heard 30 fucking seconds. If you heard the first 30 seconds of PUSH COMES TO SHOVE when sampling FAIR WARNING, you'd have thought the whole album probably a failure.

30 seconds says absolutely fucking nothing.

Hi Rikk! The first 30 seconds of that tune is one of my most fav VH moments. Does it seem cold in here to you? :)

Rikk

01-06-2012, 07:05 PM

Hi Rikk! The first 30 seconds of that tune is one of my most fav VH moments. Does it seem cold in here to you? :)

Oh, I love it now. When I first heard it, I remember thinking, "What is this, disco?" Then I heard the rest of the song and it grew on me. As time went on, Dave's rap and the funky backbeat made me love it.

My point was, first impressions are deceiving.

Big Fat Sammy

01-06-2012, 07:13 PM

Oh, I love it now. When I first heard it, I remember thinking, "What is this, disco?" Then I heard the rest of the song and it grew on me. As time went on, Dave's rap and the funky backbeat made me love it.

My point was, first impressions are deceiving.

For sure. It's hard to sum them up without the big picture. PCTS is a perfect example of what I love about CVH. If you were to listen to the music without vocals it would make little sense, it's so abstract. Dave's voice ties everything together. Hope this new one is like that. I dig the more offbeat weirder stuff

redfire

01-07-2012, 01:49 AM

Think 'Angel Eyes' will make it on there?

Great call. I forgot about Angel Eyes. That was one of the first unreleased songs I found on Napster 12-13 years ago.

SunisinuS

01-07-2012, 01:57 AM

I am about to go out to the local bar and drop a Benjamin on VH with one of those searchables. We going to find "She's the Woman" and make them all pay.

Roth On Boy and Girls.

As they say in Half Baked "I'm Out!".

redfire

01-07-2012, 02:46 AM

The more i listen to that clip, the more I hear the verse from Down in Flames. That said, you can't base an opinion on a 30 second as others have said, but remember we're not hearing the payoff-the chorus to this song's build up. The climax to a build is what can really draw you into a song. So I'll wait my 3 days before I start freaking out.

houseofpain

01-07-2012, 03:22 AM

Angel Eyes and Voodoo Queen

VOODOO_King

01-07-2012, 09:03 AM

I think we know enough about Dave that we know this isn't an Eddie solo project. It was probably Dave that wanted the band to dust off a few old tracks.

Jesus, quit complaining. The band has a new album out...it's now practically guaranteed to have the vibe of the early years...Dave is excited, I'm excited.

You're looking for things to whine about.

I agree.

It amazes me that people have bitched for so long that Van Halen wasn't doing anything. They're not releasing a CD. They're not touring. They're not giving the fans what they want. Now, they're getting ready to release a new CD and start a new tour and all of these people are nitpicking the shit out of everything they can think of before the CD is even released. "She's the Woman" has new lyrics and a new bridge. Tattoo is the main riff from "Down In Flames", but you've only heard 30 seconds of it. How the fuck do you know how the whole song is going to sound? How do you know how many songs are old demos? How do you know the other 11 songs suck? And people wonder why Eddie doesn't go out of his way to appease the fans? You guys want to dictate what you're going to get from the band and if it's not what you "thought" they were going to release, you bitch. If they disappoint you this much, then stop buying their stuff and unsub from the "fan" forums. Criticism is one thing, but this bashing of material you haven't even heard yet is unbearable. If they released a whole new CD of stuff that was like the "III" CD with Dave on vocals you'd be bitching about that. If they wrote a bunch of love songs you'd bitch about that. They brought back the classic VH tunes from their early years and revamped them for 2012 and you're bitching about that. Why don't you call Ed and send him the sheet music for the songs you want him to record and then we'll all be happy? (Yeah I know he doesn't read music, but you get the point) Fuck...

Rikk

01-07-2012, 11:09 AM

I agree.

It amazes me that people have bitched for so long that Van Halen wasn't doing anything. They're not releasing a CD. They're not touring. They're not giving the fans what they want. Now, they're getting ready to release a new CD and start a new tour and all of these people are nitpicking the shit out of everything they can think of before the CD is even released. "She's the Woman" has new lyrics and a new bridge. Tattoo is the main riff from "Down In Flames", but you've only heard 30 seconds of it. How the fuck do you know how the whole song is going to sound? How do you know how many songs are old demos? How do you know the other 11 songs suck? And people wonder why Eddie doesn't go out of his way to appease the fans? You guys want to dictate what you're going to get from the band and if it's not what you "thought" they were going to release, you bitch. If they disappoint you this much, then stop buying their stuff and unsub from the "fan" forums. Criticism is one thing, but this bashing of material you haven't even heard yet is unbearable. If they released a whole new CD of stuff that was like the "III" CD with Dave on vocals you'd be bitching about that. If they wrote a bunch of love songs you'd bitch about that. They brought back the classic VH tunes from their early years and revamped them for 2012 and you're bitching about that. Why don't you call Ed and send him the sheet music for the songs you want him to record and then we'll all be happy? (Yeah I know he doesn't read music, but you get the point) Fuck...

Nice post. Couldn't agree more.

VAN HALEN fans have had plenty of times to be furious and fed up. This is not one of those times.

K-tuna

01-07-2012, 11:17 AM

I'm hoping the main riff for " Show No Mercy / Get Off My Back/ No more waiting " is on the new album somewhere. Theres so much groove to that, that Dime would be proud.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvCnpoR7_l8

DLR Bridge

01-07-2012, 11:31 AM

Rikk & VOODOO_King- Right on! K-tuna- I hope so, too.

fourthcoming

01-07-2012, 11:35 AM

Ok....I heard the clip of "Tattoo".......am I crazy for being psyched that Ed's guitar has completely gotten away from that B.S over the top wawa "balance" tone? Is it just me or does it sound like Ed's back to throwing razor blades at our ears? You can't listen to the new album and expect it to sound like something Ted Templeman produced 35 years ago. Different technologies, different equipment, and musicians evolve over time. The original 6 pack sound will never be re-captured....that was lightining in a friggin bottle but as long as the new shit rocks....I'm happy. It's only a 30 second clip of a new song, but I have no problems with it at all.....just my two cents. I know those clowns at Melodic Rock had a track listing for the new album, and if Bullethead is on there....damn...that makes me happy. I'm hoping it's mostly an album of completey new material, but if it's re-worked tunes like Wild fire, eyes of the night, honolulu baby, big trouble, woman in love...etc....I'll still be happy as a pig in shit. Let's not forget the doldrums this band is crawling out of since 1985!!!

K-tuna

01-07-2012, 11:44 AM

Since you insist :)

I've listened very carefully to the bass in both versions of "She's the Woman". It's almost the same line (not identical but very close). On the one hand this is understandable since this is an old track. On the other hand, this is a new version from 2012, so I was expecting an input from the new member of the band.

Which leads me to the question: how much of Wolf is there in the basslines and how much of Ed? Is Wolf a full-fledged member of VH or is he playing only what Ed tells him to play? I certainly hope it's the first option, mostly because I don't want this album to be another Eddie's solo project. We've heard enough of his "solo" 5150 music in the last 20 years.

Respectfully, not sure what you are wanting here.

In some posts you seem not to want rehashed old stuff, then you slam the newer stuff Ed did.

We're not in the studio, we don't know what they're thinking, but in the case of " Shes the Woman", its a great riff , but they obviously faced the challenge that there's a part of " mean street" in the original. I know theres a lot of purists here ( don't mean that negatively) , but the fact is, this incarnation is not and never will be the one from the late 1970s.

Ed isn't playing Marshalls, has several incarnations of his own guitars ...he didn't sound like the 1970s brown sound on "5150"nor did he sound like 5150 on "F@CK" when he had his own guitars and Peavey 5150 amp, and he didn't sound like that on " Up for Breakfast" . ' NOW' theres no Mike, Daves older and his voice cracks when he does higher sounding stuff ( although I still crank" Me Wise Magic "because of that cool low growly approach to the lyrics ----works better for him) and Ed has yet ANOTHER version of his Guitar and Amp sound ( just pointing out its never gonna be exactly the same---it just won't).

Its a different Van Halen, I accept it and hope it will rock in its own way. The Cafe' Wha show sure seemed like a step in the right direction.

fourthcoming

01-07-2012, 11:47 AM

EXACTLY K-Tuna

if6was9

01-07-2012, 11:56 AM

Ed isn't playing Marshalls, has several incarnations of his own guitars ...he didn't sound like the 1970s brown sound on "5150"nor did he sound like 5150 on "F@CK" when he had his own guitars and Peavey 5150 amp, and he didn't sound like that on " Up for Breakfast" .

EXACTLY K-Tuna

You noobs seem to know much about Van Hagar era. Please, tell us more about it.

fourthcoming

01-07-2012, 12:03 PM

Dude I didn't join this site to argue with people.....the only thing I can tell you about the Van Hagar error is that I boycotted the whole fiasco and chose to listen to Eat 'em, Skyscraper, A little ain't enough, Filthy little mouth, and DLR band instead. There are positive vibes all over this site for the first time in a long time. I may be a newbie here bro but I'm trying not to be negative.

hain23x

01-07-2012, 12:04 PM

If the track listing us true, it is like Diver Down meets Tattoo You meets recent Stones bonus discs.

Couldn't make out the lyrics from the club show-I'm sure they were rewritten just like the others will be.

if6was9

01-07-2012, 12:10 PM

There are positive vibes all over this site for the first time in a long time. I may be a newbie here bro but I'm trying not to be negative.

Everybody here is trying very hard not to be negative about so called "new" tracks. I'm not. I don't like reworked "She's the Woman" and a sample of "Tattoo". Can't help it. These recycled old songs pale in comparison to the 6-pack. They sound flat somehow. There's no energy in them, at least the kind of energy I used to find in CVH.

fourthcoming

01-07-2012, 12:19 PM

Bro, I understand where your coming from, completely respect your opinion. I was hoping for 13 completely new tunes....I'm hoping this is just the beginning. I will enjoy the re-worked tunes...and hopefully it doesn't take another 100 years for the next album.

Unchainme

01-07-2012, 12:22 PM

K-tuna

01-07-2012, 12:25 PM

You noobs seem to know much about Van Hagar era. Please, tell us more about it.

OK, I know where you're going with it so I'll say it and make it easy for ya---------I dig some of the Van Hagar songs/riffs.... But Daves-era was "THE" VAN HALEN.

So now we've got that outta the way...

No Im not so sure about "TATTOO", Im in IDK mode but "She's the Woman " at Cafe' Wha was just as awesome even without the Mean Street riff.

Unchainme

01-07-2012, 12:30 PM

You know what..I'll go the upset direction than this polish fuckbag.

It's GOOD that they're going back to rework their old unused demo songs. You see groups like Motley/Nikki Sixx/Aerosmith/Metallica..often times they'll go the route of trying to sound more modern/radio friendly.

Van Halen ain't trying to do that. Van Halen's not trying to sound like a fucking Nu Metal act, they're trying to sound like that band that we all wanted to hear from.

It's like the Coca Cola formula. YOU. DO. NOT. FUCK. WITH. IT. EVER. (and that includes removing cane sugar for corn syrup). That's what Dave, Ed, Wolfie, and Alex get right now.

DLR Bridge

01-07-2012, 12:33 PM

Anyone slamming the "snippet" of Tattoo and the hard to hear She's The Woman need only do one thing... Go to Carrierclinic.com and get some help. You're obviously depressed and hell bound to never find happiness.

ARE SOME OF YOU NUTS?!?! I can't believe how many times I've seen the word "meh" written in my life! Sit tight and GET READY...!!!!!!!!!

I just listened to the version of STW over at the VHND and I have to say, Wolf's playing is outstanding. Literally!! He is on point with some cool bass chords and just the right amount of flash. Plenty of confidence too.

Now I really can't wait for February.

if6was9

01-07-2012, 12:33 PM

"she's the Woman " at Cafe' Wha was just as awesome without the Mean Street riff.

As "awesome" as the original version? I think it was turned into "Mean Street" because it wasn't that awesome.

I just listened to the version of STW over at the VHND and I have to say, Wolf's playing is outstanding. Literally!! He is on point with some cool bass chords and just the right amount of flash. Plenty of confidence too.

Nope. He's a guitarist who is incidentally playing bass. It's clear if you know anything about bass.

Unchainme

01-07-2012, 12:35 PM

As "awesome" as the original version? I think it was turned into "Mean Street" because it wasn't that awesome.

Who's saying it was as "Awesome" douche bucket?

You're about as enjoyable as a chlamydiae flavored popsicle.

K-tuna

01-07-2012, 12:37 PM

EXACTLY K-Tuna

Thanks :D

if6was9

01-07-2012, 12:38 PM

Who's saying it was as "Awesome" douche bucket?

Mr K-tuna is :)

binnie

01-07-2012, 12:41 PM

Everybody here is trying very hard not to be negative about so called "new" tracks. I'm not. I don't like reworked "She's the Woman" and a sample of "Tattoo". Can't help it. These recycled old songs pale in comparison to the 6-pack. They sound flat somehow. There's no energy in them, at least the kind of energy I used to find in CVH.

Think about it this way. Go into your wardrobe and pull out the clothes you loved wearing in 1982. Squeeze into them, and look at yourself in the mirror. No matter how well you've aged, you'll look ridiculous - if VH tried to sound like they did between 78-84, the result would be ridiculous too.

Trying something a little different with the same ingredients - as 'Tattoo' is trying to - gives me hope. The guys have to age, and so does the music.
If you're hoping for the 6-pack, you're gonna be dissapointed.

K-tuna

01-07-2012, 12:43 PM

As "awesome" as the original version? I think it was turned into "Mean Street" because it wasn't that awesome.

Nope. He's a guitarist who is incidentally playing bass. It's clear if you know anything about bass.

AWESOME, as in... Its sounds like the song should, easily recognizable , they were locked in and its sounded great....like the demo... which is the ONLY thing to compare it to. Or should they awkwardly INCLUDE the "mean street " breakdown part?

Eddie wrote it, I trust him to rework it the way he sees fit.

DLR Bridge

01-07-2012, 12:51 PM

Nope. He's a guitarist who is incidentally playing bass. It's clear if you know anything about bass.

I know all about it smarty pants. Whether he started out on guitar or not, sounds good so far.

K-tuna

01-07-2012, 01:01 PM

I know all about it smarty pants. Whether he started out on guitar or not, sounds good so far.

Agreed....this aint the kid that was awkwardly still on stage who looked like he was struggling with bass in 2007-2008.

He looked confident, played in the pocket, and OWNED those songs.
Yeah, he was playing what Mike wrote , but he played 'em like it was his. I have a funny feeling, if he wrote his own bass lines, it won't be stagnant, repetitive 16th and 32nd note lines over and over again. ( sorry Mike )

sadaist

01-07-2012, 01:02 PM

You're about as enjoyable as a chlamydiae flavored popsicle.

Dude, you seriously need a new popsicle cart man if that's a flavor he's offering up.

Hammy5150

01-07-2012, 01:37 PM

I don't have any issues whatsoever if VH decided to dust off a few of their songs from their club days to polish up with today's sound. When I first heard those demos long ago, I was actually surprised some of them hadn't made it on to a record as I thought some of them were better than some of the songs that actually did make it on to an album.

I don't have any illusions that I am going to love every song they come up with for this CD. I don't think I have ever bought an album/tape/CD in my life in which I loved every song on it (outside of a greatest hits compilation that is). A few records came very close but I am realistic that I may not love every song that comes out on this CD. What's important to me is they are recording together again and I have faith that EVH, DLR, and Co. are going to create some gems for me to play over and over again.

redfire

01-07-2012, 01:41 PM

Ok, if6was9 if you're not encouraged about what you've heard that's fine. But the fact of the matter is, we- the DLR Army and =Vh= fans - have bitched about Ed throwing us anything (specifically reworked demos) for 10+ years. And now he is. And while we don't know if the album will be soley comprised of classic VH tunes, and someone said this earlier, based on Tattoo's snippet, She's the Woman, and the possibility of Bullethead (if you believe melodicrock's leaked album list) we are lead to believe they won't be trying to make music that sounds like someone else. Someone said it earlier, but look at what Crue tried to do when they've recorded with Vince in the past 15 years or so.

No one's telling you not to express your opinion, but don't try to say the rest of us are pretending to feel good about this. Because quite frankly, you don't know what the fuck anyone really thinks.

78/84 guy

01-07-2012, 02:04 PM

Respectfully, not sure what you are wanting here.

In some posts you seem not to want rehashed old stuff, then you slam the newer stuff Ed did.

We're not in the studio, we don't know what they're thinking, but in the case of " Shes the Woman", its a great riff , but they obviously faced the challenge that there's a part of " mean street" in the original. I know theres a lot of purists here ( don't mean that negatively) , but the fact is, this incarnation is not and never will be the one from the late 1970s.

Ed isn't playing Marshalls, has several incarnations of his own guitars ...he didn't sound like the 1970s brown sound on "5150"nor did he sound like 5150 on "F@CK" when he had his own guitars and Peavey 5150 amp, and he didn't sound like that on " Up for Breakfast" . ' NOW' theres no Mike, Daves older and his voice cracks when he does higher sounding stuff ( although I still crank" Me Wise Magic "because of that cool low growly approach to the lyrics ----works better for him) and Ed has yet ANOTHER version of his Guitar and Amp sound ( just pointing out its never gonna be exactly the same---it just won't).

Its a different Van Halen, I accept it and hope it will rock in its own way. The Cafe' Wha show sure seemed like a step in the right direction.

And there you go. There is a 25 year gap in the album releases. Thats a long time. There isn't 6 or 7 albums in between to hear the band evolve into what is about to come out. And Mike is gone. Your take says it all. It will not just pick up from 1984 !! Maybe Skyscraper and that was 1988 ! Some of that album could have been new VH at the time. If you think you are getting a 6 pack album you better not buy it !

nitroDave23

01-07-2012, 02:07 PM

Damn, I can't believe someone can complain after all they've been spoiling us with lately....

We're getting everything we basically asked for (minus Michael Anthony)

Tons of media
Frequent updates involving Dave
New Album
New Tour
Better Bassist (and don't deny Wolfie kicked ass at Cafe Wha?...he's ready)
The band showing signs of actual happiness

Judging the new stuff by low quality videos and 30 second clips is just stupid and ungrateful....so what if it re-worked stuff,that's not a bad thing.Eddie's playing was best back in those times,he needs to deliver riffs like those again.

WE'RE GETTING NEW VAN HALEN DAMN IT!!!! lol

*No you aren't dreaming.... it's for real.

78/84 guy

01-07-2012, 02:16 PM

Think about it this way. Go into your wardrobe and pull out the clothes you loved wearing in 1982. Squeeze into them, and look at yourself in the mirror. No matter how well you've aged, you'll look ridiculous - if VH tried to sound like they did between 78-84, the result would be ridiculous too.

Trying something a little different with the same ingredients - as 'Tattoo' is trying to - gives me hope. The guys have to age, and so does the music.
If you're hoping for the 6-pack, you're gonna be dissapointed.

Some people do make sense around here !! But lets no forget those demos were only 7 or 8 years old when Dave left the band !! So I don't have a problem with them using old demo ideas. Fuck it's their band ! And as much as I love the old demos they were never meant to get out in the public anyway.

if6was9

01-07-2012, 02:30 PM

And as much as I love the old demos they were never meant to get out in the public anyway.

Precisely. Besides, new material based on the wastes from old sessions tells a lot about current state of VH's creativity. I know this is the way Eddie was working for years, but it's kinda sad. I hope the rest of the album will be more original.

njbill

01-07-2012, 02:33 PM

Cripes some of you guys would complain if Jessica Alba gave you a blow job.

Unchainme

01-07-2012, 02:39 PM

precisely. Besides, new material based on the wastes from old sessions tells a lot about current state of vh's creativity. I know this is the way eddie was working for years, but it's kinda sad. I hope the rest of the album will be more original.

we're. Getting. A. New. Album.

Go. Choke. On. Your. Own. Dick.

Unchainme

01-07-2012, 02:41 PM

Cripes some of you guys would complain if Jessica Alba gave you a blow job.

only one guy. believe me 99.9 of the army is for this.

Little Texan

01-07-2012, 02:41 PM

78/84 guy

01-07-2012, 02:43 PM

Precisely. Besides, new material based on the wastes from old sessions tells a lot about current state of VH's creativity. I know this is the way Eddie was working for years, but it's kinda sad. I hope the rest of the album will be more original.

Well I meant the originals. If they want to use those old riffs for new songs I don't have a problem with it. It's their music.

Unchainme

01-07-2012, 02:45 PM

The only one that I've seen complaining so far is a rabid Hagar sheep, and that's only because his cheddar idol isn't screeching about love and all that jive on this VH record.

I'm trying to find one thing to complain about.

the only thing that remotely makes me want to bitch is the fact that we don't have CVH 78-84 material on a DVD. (and I believe that will come in due time :) ).

DDE working with the links and the army? a new album and tour? a DVD of the cafe wha? performance among other things? fucking pinch me.

if6was9

01-07-2012, 02:45 PM

The only one that I've seen complaining so far is a rabid Hagar sheep, and that's only because his cheddar idol isn't screeching about love and all that jive on this VH record.
Grow yourself a brain.

Little Texan

01-07-2012, 02:46 PM

only one guy. believe me 99.9 of the army is for this.

Yep, and that one guy should be complaining about it along with all of the other 10 Hagar fans at roundrocker.com.

Unchainme

01-07-2012, 02:49 PM

Yep, and that one guy should be complaining about it along with all of the other 10 Hagar fans at roundrocker.com.

Here is "If6was9"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90HhZ-pyC2Y

Any normal rationale human being: "...HOLY FUCKING SHIT! A LUXURY CAR! WHAT HAVE I DONE TO PLEASE GOD!"

He's coming off as a spoiled bitchy blonde bimbo with a rich daddy.

if6was9

01-07-2012, 02:56 PM

Any normal rationale human being: "...HOLY FUCKING SHIT! A LUXURY CAR! WHAT HAVE I DONE TO PLEASE GOD!"

The difference is, "Tattoo" doesn't sound like Lexus :)

Unchainme

01-07-2012, 02:57 PM

The difference is, "Tattoo" doesn't sound like Lexus :)

yes. it. does. as does a new DVD and Dave kicking ass again and taking names.

You're a fuckhead.

Unchainme

01-07-2012, 02:58 PM

Here's a thought

Go ask WARF how "disappointed" he is..:D

if6was9

01-07-2012, 03:00 PM

yes. it. does.

Nope. THIS sounds like Lexus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P1d8BVvY-I

Unchainme

01-07-2012, 03:01 PM

Nope. THIS sounds like Lexus

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P1d8BVvY-I

This isn't 1981.

However, this is as damn as it can get.

go drink drain-o.

Little Texan

01-07-2012, 03:10 PM

The difference is, "Tattoo" doesn't sound like Lexus :)

How do you know it doesn't "sound like a Lexus" when you haven't even heard the whole song, yet? You are judging the song as a whole based solely on a short, 30 second clip?

Unchainme

01-07-2012, 03:12 PM

How do you know it doesn't "sound like a Lexus" when you haven't even heard the whole song, yet? You are judging the song as a whole based solely on a short, 30 second clip?

He's also judging ONE-FUCKING-SONG.

We've not even listened to the full record.

if6was9

01-07-2012, 03:14 PM

How do you know it doesn't "sound like a Lexus" when you haven't even heard the whole song, yet? You are judging the song as a whole based solely on a short, 30 second clip?

If "She's the Woman" and "Tattoo" sample sound like Lexus to you, then it's your problem :yo:

Honestly, would you buy this album (opinion based on the available samples) if it wasn't Van Halen???

Unchainme

01-07-2012, 03:16 PM

I'm really fucking stupid.

finally! The truth!

Unchainme

01-07-2012, 03:20 PM

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn67/skippertheeyechild/dipshit-1.jpg

I found your picture online if6was9, nice hat!

Diamondjimi

01-07-2012, 03:22 PM

Precisely. Besides, new material based on the wastes from old sessions tells a lot about current state of VH's creativity. I know this is the way Eddie was working for years, but it's kinda sad. I hope the rest of the album will be more original.Ok, so go away and come back after it's release and write up your personal review.

They've got Dave in the band. They've got an album coming out and a tour booked. What the fuck could be so wrong about this?

STFU and stop splitting hairs. Be thankful Ed never reconciled with Hagar, ffs!

Dave's Bitch

01-07-2012, 03:23 PM

If "She's the Woman" and "Tattoo" sample sound like Lexus to you, then it's your problem :yo:
Sounded pretty tight to me

if6was9

01-07-2012, 03:24 PM

I found your picture online if6was9, nice hat!

And I've found a picture of your condom, Unchainme.

http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/1/22422000/ngbbs4d4e054a2ffda.jpg

What size is it? Army size?

Unchainme

01-07-2012, 03:24 PM

If "She's the Woman" and "Tattoo" sample sound like Lexus to you, then it's your problem :yo:

Honestly, would you buy this album (opinion based on the available samples) if it wasn't Van Halen???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Unchainme

01-07-2012, 03:25 PM

Sounded pretty tight to me

And she knows her metal!

if6was9

01-07-2012, 03:29 PM

Ok, so go away and come back after it's release and write up your personal review.

That's what most of us should do.

POST #300 :)

FORD

01-07-2012, 03:36 PM

Unchainme

01-07-2012, 03:37 PM

And I've found a picture of your condom, Unchainme.

http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/1/22422000/ngbbs4d4e054a2ffda.jpg

What size is it? Army size?

Seems that someone's quite focused on another man's gear.

projecting are we?

nitroDave23

01-07-2012, 03:46 PM

The only one that I've seen complaining so far is a rabid Hagar sheep, and that's only because his cheddar idol isn't screeching about love and all that jive on this VH record.

Exactly who I was referring too.....fucking ass hole.

(if6was9) :fufu:

DONNIEP

01-07-2012, 05:08 PM

And I thought Heater was annoying...

VH Drummer

01-07-2012, 05:09 PM

On the Simmons demo I was never a huge fan of "She's the Woman" but at the club it sounded great! I gained a lot of respect for Wolf--the kid has definitely improved his playing. I wouldn't mind seeing a reworked "Babe Don't Leave Me Alone" or "Big Trouble." Those have always been my two favorite demos.

nitroDave23

01-07-2012, 05:49 PM

I gained a lot of respect for Wolf--the kid has definitely improved his playing.

Me too,that short clip GEM posted of She's The Woman made me accept Wolfe...I can finally see the Van Halen in him,

Thank God he can play....was worried before hand If I'm honest.

No doubt in my mind he's gonna kill it now on Tour, and his Backing vocals where good too.

Didn't think he had it in him.

Little Texan

01-07-2012, 06:33 PM

Thank God he can play....was worried before hand If I'm honest.

Didn't think he had it in him.

How could he not? After all, he's got Ed's blood flowin' through his veins and he's a multi-instrumentalist like the old man. He obviously inherited Ed's music gene.

Zing!

01-07-2012, 08:44 PM

So happy Bullethead is getting an official release! That She's The Woman is also included, plus a probable reworking of another oldie in Tattoo - I am more than satisfied. I do think 13 tracks is a bit much - that leaves the door wide open for filler tracks that should have been cut (a classic VH album should have no more than 10 tracks in my opinion), but who knows - the Beatles were able to pull off 13+ tracks on a regular basis. I'm already bracing myself for the fact that there might be a couple of tunes that don't click with me - a first with Roth-era VH. I pretty much love every song on every album from 78-84. I honestly want to love every track on this disk, but being realistic, 13 tracks is a tall order for batting .1000 on awesome songs. Based on Dave's humble demeanor at the Wha? gig and how truly happy and content he seems - I'm willing to cut an awful lot of slack for A Different Kind of Truth.

redfire

01-07-2012, 08:59 PM

As "awesome" as the original version? I think it was turned into "Mean Street" because it wasn't that awesome.

Voodoo Queen was turned into Mean Street. She's the Woman only provided the bad ass breakdown and solo.

sadaist

01-07-2012, 09:11 PM

....... Roth-era VH. I pretty much love every song on every album from 78-84. I honestly want to love every track on this disk, but being realistic, 13 tracks is a tall order for batting .1000 on awesome songs. Based on Dave's humble demeanor at the Wha? gig and how truly happy and content he seems - I'm willing to cut an awful lot of slack for A Different Kind of Truth.

It sure feels fucking great to be in a Roth era again (or finally for younger fans).

I agree with you. If we get 5-6 barnburners and the rest so so, i think everyone will be elated.

Dave's Bitch

01-08-2012, 02:59 AM

I kinda dig the vibe of the Tattoo preview.Got kinda a relaxed cruising feel to it.Can imagine window's down and tapping' the wheel to this :)

JJtheVagPounder

01-08-2012, 01:02 PM

Well, I for one am excited about the tracks thus far. "She's the Woman" sounded great. I enjoyed the original, but I thought that this matured version fit so much better. I think “Tattoo” will be great as well. If it isn’t CVH, it happens. I am sure that this album is going to be far and away better than any “rock” we’ve heard recently, so let’s rejoice! I am happy that Dave is back, Edward seems super happy, Wolf holds it down, and Alex is Alex. I can’t imagine that we’ll be disappointed.

DLR Bridge

01-08-2012, 01:19 PM

When I first heard about a year ago that older demos would be revisited for this recording, I believe it was mentioned at the same time that some WildLife stuff would be considered. There are a few things from that movie that I'd love to see be used. Anyone remember the scene when the scumbag cop shows up at Donut City for a lil' bit of play time and it's just Leah Thompson and a couple of kids in there? There is a bad ass slow mean groove with all sorts of nutty clean soloing over it, but there is also this crazy scratching scraping sound in there. Not talking about the song Donut City, either. In any case, I could totally hear Dave doing Ladies Night in Buffalo-esque vocals over that. Damn. I can't stop daydreaming about how awesome this CD is going to be.