2010-2011 College Football Gameday--The Bowl Games

[POJO_Risin]

Here's the thread for this season's NCAA football...

I'll change the thread title from week-to-week...to represent the games of the week.

[POJO_Risin]

Clearly, this was the game of the week...

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=302480151

ECU vs. Tulsa....

The new head coach for ECU after Skip Holtz left is the same guy that took over for Mike Leach at Texas Tech during the bowl game last year...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Nice to see PSU finally wake up and trounce the Penguins of Youngstown St....

I do like that freshman QB JoePa has starting, nice touch and a good arm... Better than that overrated piece of shit Darryl Clark....

And of course, as soon as Pitt gets come national attention, they can't close the deal at Utah.....

[vanhalen1r2]

Looks like OSU will be beating U OF M again this year.

[POJO_Risin]

Looks like OSU will be beating U OF M again this year.

It certainly helps that the game will be in Columbus. Ohio State does have a young secondary though. Miami will likely go after them...if they have a chance to.

Ohio's front seven is as good as any in football right now...

[Von Halen]

Was there ever any doubt?

[vanhalen1r2]

Was there ever any doubt?

Aint Talkin bout Miami they are rotten to the core.
Talkin bout Michigan

[Von Halen]

Aint Talkin bout Miami they are rotten to the core.


So is Michigan.

[GAR]

Vonnies a fuckingLIVE!!

he's ALIVE! WTF

[vanhalen1r2]

So is Michigan.


Its sad, Bitch Rod has ruined U of M.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ys-bushheisman090710

bye bye heisman

The Heisman Trophy Trust is expected to strip former University of Southern California star running back Reggie Bush of college football’s top honor by the end of September, sources told Yahoo! Sports.

[vanhalen1r2]

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ys-bushheisman090710

bye bye heisman

The Heisman Trophy Trust is expected to strip former University of Southern California star running back Reggie Bush of college football’s top honor by the end of September, sources told Yahoo! Sports.

As it should be

[POJO_Risin]

So the question then is...should Vince Young get the award...or...should they just chuck it into the Atlantic...or in this case...the Pacific?

Bush had a massive lead over young when he won...and Young has stated that he doesn't want it...

[PETE'S BROTHER]

i would smash it and then give it back

[POJO_Risin]

Fuck it...sell it on ebay...

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Fuck it...sell it on ebay...

and give some replica back to the trust:biggrin:

[Little Texan]

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ys-bushheisman090710

bye bye heisman

The Heisman Trophy Trust is expected to strip former University of Southern California star running back Reggie Bush of college football’s top honor by the end of September, sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Good, and while they're at it they should strip USC of ALL their National Championships during that period, the fucking cheaters!

[Little Texan]

Notice how Pete Carroll abandoned ship before all this shit went down?

[POJO_Risin]

Fucking Pete Carroll...all smiling and happy in Seattle...

What a piece of shit he is...

and his penalty?

Nothing...a million dollar contract. And he has the audacity to fucking deny that it ever happened, to deny that he left because of it, and leave the program in the shitter...

He should be fired...

[Little Texan]

Fucking Pete Carroll...all smiling and happy in Seattle...

What a piece of shit he is...

and his penalty?

Nothing...a million dollar contract. And he has the audacity to fucking deny that it ever happened, to deny that he left because of it, and leave the program in the shitter...

He should be fired...

I hope he fails miserably in Seattle, and if his past coaching experience in the NFL is any indication, he will. Karma is about to bite him in the ass, big time.

[POJO_Risin]

Alright...big game of the week is obviously THE Ohio State University vs. The U on Saturday...but there are other good games...

Florida State plays their first big game without Bowden, at Oklahoma...

Penn State rolls into Tuscaloosa to face off against...in my best Keith Jackson voice...

Al...A....Bama...

[POJO_Risin]

He turned down San Francisco, Miami, Atlanta and Washington, over the years...

...for Seattle?

[POJO_Risin]

Well, perhaps Virginia Tech's loss to Hobart School of the Blind today put's Boise St. into perspective. I don't care who they beat...until they play a real fucking schedule, they shouldn't be in the fucking equation...

[POJO_Risin]

Michigan has one good player...Mr. Shoelaces...but boy...he really is good...

So it's coming...

Who's the better QB...Terrelle Pryor, or Denard Robinson...

ESPN is already talking Heisman...

[POJO_Risin]

Penn St. getting it handed to them by Al--A--Bama...

It's a rebuilding year for Penn State...nothing more...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Tell ya what though, 'Bama is fucking good, both sides of the ball...

PSU had three huge turnovers deep in Bama territory, which killed any chance at all....

But even if they converted on one or two of those, Bama was clearly the better team.....

[sonrisa salvaje]

Somebody is going to put up some good passing yardage against the Bama defense. They are too young at the corners. With Alabama's running and passing attack they should be able to give up some points and still win but on the road against Arkansas, then Florida at home, and then at South Carolina it is going to be a difficult task to come out of those 3 games unscathed.
Anyone else impressed with Oregon's beatdown of Tennessee?

[POJO_Risin]

AP Top 25
RK TEAM RECORD PTS
1 Alabama (53) 3-0 1492
2 Ohio State (5) 3-0 1435
3 Boise State (1) 2-0 1333
4 TCU 3-0 1280
5 Oregon 3-0 1238
6 Nebraska 3-0 1175
7 Texas (1) 3-0 1164
8 Oklahoma 3-0 1114
9 Florida 3-0 1044
10 Arkansas 3-0 903
11 Wisconsin 3-0 803
12 South Carolina 3-0 739
13 Utah 3-0 703
14 Arizona 3-0 663
15 LSU 3-0 654
16 Stanford 3-0 606
17 Auburn 3-0 600
18 Iowa 2-1 482
19 Miami (FL) 1-1 472
20 USC 3-0 414
21 Michigan 3-0 291
22 West Virginia 3-0 258
23 Penn State 2-1 198
24 Oregon State 1-1 75
25 Michigan State 3-0 45

* Dropped from rankings: Houston 23

* Others receiving votes: Air Force 44, Nevada 41, Pittsburgh 40, Florida State 40, Fresno State 35, Missouri 30, Oklahoma State 22, Clemson 14, North Carolina State 14, Georgia Tech 14, James Madison 8, Kansas State 4, Arizona State 3, California 3, Northwestern 3, Notre Dame 1, Temple 1, Texas A&M 1, Houston 1

* Complete Rankings »

USA Today Poll
RK TEAM RECORD PTS
1 Alabama (55) 3-0 1470
2 Ohio State (3) 3-0 1410
3 Boise State 2-0 1291
4 Texas 3-0 1251
5 TCU 3-0 1188
6 Oregon 3-0 1181
7 Nebraska (1) 3-0 1135
8 Florida 3-0 1092
9 Oklahoma 3-0 1060
10 Wisconsin 3-0 884
11 Arkansas 3-0 846
12 LSU 3-0 801
13 Utah 3-0 693
14 Auburn 3-0 655
15 South Carolina 3-0 612
16 Arizona 3-0 610
17 Stanford 3-0 541
18 Iowa 2-1 463
19 Miami (FL) 1-1 418
20 Penn State 2-1 335
21 West Virginia 3-0 315
22 Michigan 3-0 255
23 Michigan State 3-0 125
24 Missouri 3-0 123
25 Oklahoma State 3-0 103

* Dropped from rankings: Houston 23, California 24

* Others receiving votes: Nevada 58, Florida State 56, Oregon State 53, Pittsburgh 30, Georgia Tech 24, Clemson 17, Northwestern 15, Air Force 15, Boston College 12, Fresno State 7, Houston 7, North Carolina State 7, Temple 5, Texas A&M 4, Kansas State 4, Texas Tech 2, Virginia Tech 2,

* Complete Rankings

[POJO_Risin]

Somebody is going to put up some good passing yardage against the Bama defense. They are too young at the corners. With Alabama's running and passing attack they should be able to give up some points and still win but on the road against Arkansas, then Florida at home, and then at South Carolina it is going to be a difficult task to come out of those 3 games unscathed.
Anyone else impressed with Oregon's beatdown of Tennessee?

Oregon fans sure are...

[POJO_Risin]

Alabama handles their business against Arkansas...of course...

with a former UofMichicrap quarterback at the helm...I would expect nothing less.

tOSU rolls Eastern Michigan..73-20...but gives up a couple of long-ass drives to a shit team...concerning...but you gotta like the 73. That's not a typical Tressel move. Boise St. controls a game against Oregon State...but makes a ton of mistakes. TCU handles SMU...Oregon handles Arizona St....Nebraska handles San Diego St...

and...

Texas takes the first hit...gonzo...for now.

Interesting...Oklahoma continues to look overrated...

[sonrisa salvaje]

I knew Bama's defense was going to give up some passing yards. Hopefully, Brantley and Florida won't find the kind of success that Malett did.
While a lot of eyes will be on the Bama-Florida game this weekend, i think the game to watch is going to be Stanford at Oregon. That is going to be a ball buster.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

and wisconsin kicks the shit out of a.p. state tech university !:biggrin:

[chefcraig]

Holy crap, Alabama is getting their hat handed to them!

[PETE'S BROTHER]

badgers 5-1. go s.carolina!

[PETE'S BROTHER]

#1 gets beat!

[Little Texan]

I guess Ohio St. will be the new number 1.

[POJO_Risin]

Yes...I guess they will...

[Von Halen]

Fuck the WolverQueens!

U fo M had better be on the phone with Harbaugh right now. I sure hope they don't get him!

[TFM_Dale]

Fuck the WolverQueens!

U fo M had better be on the phone with Harbaugh right now. I sure hope they don't get him!

I'm still sick over that one, damn spartans kicked the fucking shit out of them. Worst coached game and worst defensive game by the Wolverines ever.

[kwame k]

I'm still sick over that one, damn spartans kicked the fucking shit out of them. Worst coached game and worst defensive game by the Wolverines ever.

That's the key right there.......Michigan has a suck ass defense. No matter how great your offensive numbers are if you can't control the other guy's offense, you'll never win Championships!

Just being Captain Obvious, here!

[POJO_Risin]

That's the key right there.......Michigan has a suck ass defense. No matter how great your offensive numbers are if you can't control the other guy's offense, you'll never win Championships!

Just being Captain Obvious, here!

And heres the thing...with regards to MichiSuck...as long as they don't have a good defense...the alumni will want DickRod dead. My hope is they keep winning five games out of the gate...before they start playing good teams...

[kwame k]

And heres the thing...with regards to MichiSuck...as long as they don't have a good defense...the alumni will want DickRod dead. My hope is they keep winning five games out of the gate...before they start playing good teams...

Yeah, it's funny how the mighty have fallen......If I remember correctly, Michigan has the most all-time wins of any college.........not if they keep this shit up!

[POJO_Risin]

Rank Team Won Lost Tied Games W%
1 Michigan 877 302 36 1215 0.736
2 Texas 845 318 33 1196 0.720
3 ND 837 290 42 1169 0.734
4 Nebraska 827 341 40 1208 0.701
5 Ohio State 819 308 53 1180 0.717
6 Penn State 811 351 42 1204 0.691
7 Oklahoma 799 302 53 1154 0.715
8 Alabama 792 316 43 1151 0.707
9 Tennessee 783 333 53 1169 0.692
10 USC 775 307 54 1136 0.706

[kwame k]

Fuck, I thought ND was number 2!

[POJO_Risin]

Fuck, I thought ND was number 2!

They were for a long time...Texas was down...and ND was up...

That...of course...has switched over the past 10 years...

[kwame k]

Really, ND is a nostalgia act........they command top dollar for TV coverage or at the very least they warrant coverage but in reality their "popularity" is built upon the past, not the present.

[POJO_Risin]

Really, ND is a nostalgia act........they command top dollar for TV coverage or at the very least they warrant coverage but in reality their "popularity" is built upon the past, not the present.

Their popularity is built on a powerful and rich alumni...that will watch Notre Dame if they went 0-12 every year...

[POJO_Risin]

Really, ND is a nostalgia act........they command top dollar for TV coverage or at the very least they warrant coverage but in reality their "popularity" is built upon the past, not the present.

Also agreed...

[Von Halen]

That stat is bullshit. The WolverQueens padded their stats against inferior opponents. Their cuntference only had 3 teams above .500 during the whole Blo Shitbechler era. Fuck the WolverQueens. I despise them.

[POJO_Risin]

Yo VonPa...what conference did you follow growing up? SWC or Big 8...I know it's one or the other...but I can't remember...

[kwame k]

That stat is bullshit. The WolverQueens padded their stats against inferior opponents. Their cuntference only had 3 teams above .500 during the whole Blo Shitbechler era. Fuck the WolverQueens. I despise them.

They helped define that era.....you could pick apart a few Championships from a bygone era in that respect but a win is a win, I guess.

[conmee]

Brethren and Sistren,

ND was #1 in winning percentage until Bob Davie took over, and/or I think Michigan overtook ND in winning percentage sometime during one of Willingham's seasons. They haven't been #2 in terms of straight up win-loss for some time now.

Hopefully, BK can get them to 9 win seasons or better, which will get them back to the top of the winning percentage heap. It will take a half dozen bad years of Texas football or so to get back to #2 for win-loss, and Michigan would have to lose a lot of games (and ND win) to catch up to Michigan.

Yes there's nostalgia and old glories, I don't think anyone would argue with that. Just look at the pathetic W-L the past 15 years, despite some BCS bowls in which they were blown out by the likes of Oregon State and OSU.

But look at that list... I think every team on that list has rabid fans and a large contingent of haters. And what's the one thing in common? Winning programs (overall). USC sucked ass for most of the 80s and 90s. The Tide had its problems. Texas/Nebraska/Penn Staate? Those Big 12 cockbones are lucky to even be in the conversation with programs like ND, Michigan, USC, Alabama, OSU... from 1969-70 to 2005 Texas didn't do shit other than some Big 12 championships. ND championship drought has been since 1988, 22 years. Too damn long, but a lot of teams on this list have had their droughts.

Rank Team Won Lost Tied Games W%
1 Michigan 877 302 36 1215 0.736 (11 - Last in 1997/split and before that? 1948)
2 Texas 845 318 33 1196 0.720 (4 - Last in 2005 and before that? 1969/70)
3 ND 837 290 42 1169 0.734 (11 - Last in 1988 - 22 year drought)
4 Nebraska 827 341 40 1208 0.701 (5 - Last in 1997/split)
5 Ohio State 819 308 53 1180 0.717 (7 - Last in 2002 and before that? 1970)
6 Penn State 811 351 42 1204 0.691 (2 - Last in 1986)
7 Oklahoma 799 302 53 1154 0.715 (7 - Last in 2000)
8 Alabama 792 316 43 1151 0.707 (13 - Last in 2010 - I won't debate the 5 or so they claim from the "pre-modern" era)
9 Tennessee 783 333 53 1169 0.692 (6 - Last in 1998 and before that? 1951)
10 USC 775 307 54 1136 0.706 (11 - Last in 2004 and before the 2003 championship, the last was 1978 and I won't debate the Reggie Bush/Carroll cheating)

It's easy to condemn ND mainly because a lot of Irish fans are d-bags and obnoxiously fanatical. Can't argue that. But... what team on this list DOESN'T have a large contingent of D-bag fans? I still think UM and OSU have the worst with USC coming in third, but that's just my midwest bias.

GO IRISH! (barely squeaked out a win against lowly Pitt)

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[POJO_Risin]

I definitely agree that my Buckeyes have more douchebag fans than naught. I can't tell you how many times I've been at the Shoe and wanted to faceplant a Buckeye fan for acting like a fucking douchebag...

[Von Halen]

Big 8 Poji.

[hideyoursheep]

The strangest people on Planet fucking Earth are the SEC nut-huggers. They make the most retarded of Michigan fans look resonable.
:019:

[hideyoursheep]

Week 7

1 Ohio State (34)
2 Oregon (15)
3 Boise State (8)
4 TCU (1) 6-0
5 Nebraska 5-0
6 Oklahoma (2)
7 Auburn
8 Alabama 5-1
9 LSU 6-0
10 South Carolina
11 Utah
12 Arkansas
13 Michigan State
14 Stanford
15 Iowa
16 Florida State
17 Arizona
18 Wisconsin
19 Nevada
20 Oklahoma State
21 Missouri
22 Florida
23 Air Force
24 Oregon State
25 West Virginia

[hideyoursheep]

Oregon , Boise St., and Oklahoma are waaay over-rated.

[BITEYOASS]

Yeah, it's funny how the mighty have fallen......If I remember correctly, Michigan has the most all-time wins of any college.........not if they keep this shit up!

Oh that was a great game! MSU has whipped U of M's sorry asses 4 years straight! FUCK YEAH! I see them winning a Big Ten Champion this year if they beat Iowa two weeks from now.


MSU------> :deadhorse: <--------U of M


:jumping0041::muahaha:rockit2:

[damngoodtimes]

well, to mark my return from a self-imposed exile, let me restart my little experiment from last season. look at the national title picture based on who is "mathematically" still alive.

the formula is simple: if you are in a BCS conference, you are still alive until you pick up your 2nd loss. if you are in a "non-AQ" conference, you have to stay undefeated. if you are in the SEC, you need three losses to be officially eliminated (this is required due to 2007, where LSU won the title with 2 losses).

so, here's this week's list, with 24 teams still in the hunt, down from 31 (Michigan, Nevada, Syracuse, Florida, Ole Miss, NCSU, Maryland out)

SEC (6): 0 losses - Auburn, LSU; 1 loss - Alabama; 2 losses - South Carolina, Arkansas, Miss St
Big Ten (5): 0 losses - Michigan St; 1 loss - Iowa, Wisconsin, Ohio St, Northwestern
Pac 10 (3): 0 losses - Oregon; 1 loss - Arizona, Stanford
Big 12 (5): 0 losses - Oklahoma, Okla St, Missouri; 1 loss - Kansas St, Nebraska
ACC (1): 0 losses - none; 1 loss - Florida St
Big East (1): 0 losses - none; 1 loss - WVU
Mountain West (2): 0 losses - TCU, Utah
WAC (1): 0 losses - Boise St
MAC (0): 0 losses - none
Conf USA (0): 0 losses - none
Sun Belt (0): 0 losses - none

of course, I'd bet my son's left nut that Northwestern and Mississippi St won't be the title game matchup, but that's not the point.

this year, yet again, I think this demonstrates how much the ACC and Big East are struggling of late. I wouldn't go so far as to say the Mountain West is stronger (the MWC might be better up top, but it can't touch the ACC with its mid-level depth).

but it's a shame to think of the quality teams that won't make a BCS bowl, just so West Virginia can get its automatic berth....

[damngoodtimes]

some great games yesterday. I was surprised that LSU kept it so close, but Auburn pulls away. they're the new #1, but I still think they are a flawed team. (maybe I still can't get over the fact that they should've lost to Clemson. I mean, Clemson? really?)

Wisconsin/Iowa was an epic battle. Hawkeyes burned AGAIN by a missed PAT. plus, it was too bad that Les Miles showed up to coach Iowa on that last drive. they had JUST called a timeout before the 4th down sneak. it's not too friggin hard to figure out what to do after that play.

Mizzou might be for real after all....who woulda thunk it?

[damngoodtimes]

alright, title chase now stands at 20 teams, down from 24 (Iowa, Northwestern, Kansas St, West Virginia out)
unbeatens down from 10 to 7

SEC (6): 0 losses - Auburn; 1 loss - Alabama, LSU; 2 losses - South Carolina, Arkansas, Miss St
Big Ten (3): 0 losses - Michigan St; 1 loss - Wisconsin, Ohio St
Pac 10 (3): 0 losses - Oregon; 1 loss - Arizona, Stanford
Big 12 (4): 0 losses - Missouri; 1 loss - Nebraska, Oklahoma, Okla St
ACC (1): 0 losses - none; 1 loss - Florida St
Big East (0): 0 losses - none; 1 loss - none
Mountain West (2): 0 losses - TCU, Utah
WAC (1): 0 losses - Boise St
MAC (0): 0 losses - none
Conf USA (0): 0 losses - none
Sun Belt (0): 0 losses - none

[BITEYOASS]

I loved that ass-whoopin that Northwestern received on Saturday. Especially that last touchdown!

[PETE'S BROTHER]

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[damngoodtimes]

Boise "impressing" again with a whuppin' of ...Louisiana Tech. is Karl Malone still playing??

if you're one of those shitty schools that will play on a Tuesday night, or a Wednesday, or Friday at 3:47am, just because espn told you to.....

then you've got no fuckin' business in the discussion for the national title

[damngoodtimes]

Florida St. knocked off last night, so another team is out. that actually finishes off the ACC completely. I think we're seeing a real separation btwn the top 4 conferences and the ACC/Big East.

could be a real shakedown day tomorrow. a real good chance of two major unbeatens going down (MSU and Mizzou), with Oregon and Utah likely to get tested, also. I think we'll get a much clearer picture after this week. but the fundamental question will remain (undefeated Boise vs. one-loss major conf school)

[POJO_Risin]

Florida St. knocked off last night, so another team is out. that actually finishes off the ACC completely. I think we're seeing a real separation btwn the top 4 conferences and the ACC/Big East.

could be a real shakedown day tomorrow. a real good chance of two major unbeatens going down (MSU and Mizzou), with Oregon and Utah likely to get tested, also. I think we'll get a much clearer picture after this week. but the fundamental question will remain (undefeated Boise vs. one-loss major conf school)

Nebraska and Iowa are beating some ass right now...with the MSU and Mizzou scenarios coming true. This should greatly help tOSU, when they run the table...

[POJO_Risin]

Iowa is beating Michigan St., 30-0...that's fucking crazy...

[TFM_Dale]

Iowa is beating Michigan St., 30-0...that's fucking crazy...

No no, that is priceless :))

[Little Texan]

How about Baylor beating Texas in Austin? And Iowa St. the week before that? Time to bench Gilbert Gottfried.

[POJO_Risin]

How about Baylor beating Texas in Austin? And Iowa St. the week before that? Time to bench Gilbert Gottfried.

Agreed...

This isn't a good Texas team...many, many weaknesses...not normal for a Mack Brown team...and you have to look at the QB as the issue...

[damngoodtimes]

19 teams, down from 20 (Florida St out)
unbeatens down to 5 from 7

SEC (6): 0 losses - Auburn; 1 loss - Alabama, LSU; 2 losses - South Carolina, Arkansas, Miss St
Big Ten (3): 0 losses - none; 1 loss - Wisconsin, Ohio St, Michigan St
Pac 10 (3): 0 losses - Oregon; 1 loss - Arizona, Stanford
Big 12 (4): 0 losses - none; 1 loss - Nebraska, Oklahoma, Missouri, Okla St
ACC (0): 0 losses - none; 1 loss - none
Big East (0): 0 losses - none; 1 loss - none
Mountain West (2): 0 losses - TCU, Utah
WAC (1): 0 losses - Boise St
MAC (0): 0 losses - none
Conf USA (0): 0 losses - none
Sun Belt (0): 0 losses - none

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Looks like JoePa found his QB, and a walk-on to boot....

Although you could attribute it to Michigan's shitty defense as well....

My son's friend was there in Happy Valley for a recruiting visit... Big boy, 6'5", 3 bills, OG.....

[Von Halen]

Michiganfan is officially the biggest dumbass on the planet. For a school that prides itself on academics, they sure do breed some dumb fans. Of course, 99% of WolverQueen fans in this State, didn't go to Michigan. Most of their grads are out of this shithole minutes after graduating. Last year, 4-0 start and "we are great". This year 5-0 start and not only "we are great", but "we have the heisman winner too". I used to think it was just arrogance. I now realize it has been arrogance, and dumb ignorance, all along.

I'm not a big Big 11 guy, but I think those top 4, could beat anyone on any given saturday.

[POJO_Risin]

Michiganfan is officially the biggest dumbass on the planet. For a school that prides itself on academics, they sure do breed some dumb fans. Of course, 99% of WolverQueen fans in this State, didn't go to Michigan. Most of their grads are out of this shithole minutes after graduating. Last year, 4-0 start and "we are great". This year 5-0 start and not only "we are great", but "we have the heisman winner too". I used to think it was just arrogance. I now realize it has been arrogance, and dumb ignorance, all along.

I'm not a big Big 11 guy, but I think those top 4, could beat anyone on any given saturday.

I do think that they have a heisman candidate...it would be scary what that kid could do on a team that has talent around him. As for the top four...I do agree with that...but still believe Wisconsin to be the best of the bunch right now. I will say that the interesting thing about all four teams you talked about...they all can run and throw...and generally have decent defenses...

[POJO_Risin]

I wonder if Michigan will fire RichRod before tOSU...or after...

it makes sense to do it before...in case they pull off the upset...and then have to keep him...

[TFM_Dale]

I wonder if Michigan will fire RichRod before tOSU...or after...

it makes sense to do it before...in case they pull off the upset...and then have to keep him...

He needs to go, the defense is a absolute joke.

[TFM_Dale]

Michiganfan is officially the biggest dumbass on the planet. For a school that prides itself on academics, they sure do breed some dumb fans. Of course, 99% of WolverQueen fans in this State, didn't go to Michigan. Most of their grads are out of this shithole minutes after graduating. Last year, 4-0 start and "we are great". This year 5-0 start and not only "we are great", but "we have the heisman winner too". I used to think it was just arrogance. I now realize it has been arrogance, and dumb ignorance, all along.

I'm not a big Big 11 guy, but I think those top 4, could beat anyone on any given saturday.

So to be a Steeler fan you have to have played for them? To root for the Tigers you have to have made the Major Leagues? Why is college sports any different? Did you attend classes at every school you root for?

[POJO_Risin]

While I am a Buckeye, I can't lay claim to playing for the Steelers...

[Von Halen]

Bite your tongue Poji! They need to keep Rich Rod!

Here's the problem with Michigan fan Poji. Yes, Michigan does have a Heisman candidate, but Michigan fan had already awarded him the trophy after they were 5-0 against shit opponents! If you knew how many photoshops I got, and how everyone around here had already given him the award at 5-0, you'd fucking puke. The kid is talented, and he can actually hit his guys down field, most of the time.

[Von Halen]

So to be a Steeler fan you have to have played for them? To root for the Tigers you have to have made the Major Leagues? Why is college sports any different? Did you attend classes at every school you root for?

Nope. I just find it ironic that the most passionate and delusional Michigan fans, are not the ones that went there. I have plenty of acquaintances that went to Michigan that aren't nearly as delusional as most that didn't. That's all.

I guess I won't be participating today, this lag is killing me. Fuck.

[damngoodtimes]

Down here in Georgia, the most passionate Bulldog fans (I mean the ones who really, truly care about who the next fuckin' dog that gets to be Uga is)......

those fuckers didn't even graduate high school

[Va Beach VH Fan]

While I am a Buckeye, I can't lay claim to playing for the Steelers...

Although me and Poj could've played CB last night and watched Brees go 20 for 22 in the second half....

Jesus H. Christ.....

[damngoodtimes]

another weekend of games got underway last night with a nailbiter between the Techs, with VA holding off GA.

the focus this weekend is on the non-AQ schools as two unbeatens face-off in the Mtn West with Utah and TCU. the other non-AQ unbeaten, Boise St, actually plays a game against somebody with a chance to beat them (Hawaii).

in the SEC, LSU and Alabama play what is effectively an elimination game for both the SEC West and the national title picture.

3 other games pitting two ranked teams should also prove interesting: Arkansas vs. South Carolina, Stanford vs. Arizona, and Baylor vs. Oklahoma St.

enjoy...

[PETE'S BROTHER]

bucky finally came alive in the second half. i think the badgers caught more throws from purdue's qb than their receivers did.:biggrin:

[damngoodtimes]

looks like were stuck with Boise and TCU for the rest of the year. the debate will rage on...

LSU looks a lot better than I thought. that was a great win against Bama. Les Miles was "good-crazy" yesterday (a reverse on 4th-and-1!!). is that the same team that came a dropped TD pass away from losing to UNC's Junior Varsity team? or an untimed down away from losing to a dreadful Tennessee?

Iowa St almost pulled the upset of the day, but the holder threw up a wounded duck (and that guy was wide OPEN). the rest of the Big12 coughed up a big hairball, as Oklahoma and Missouri exited stage left...

wacky day...but fun

[damngoodtimes]

and here's the tracker...

14 teams, down from 19 (Utah, South Carolina, Arizona, Oklahoma, Missouri out)
unbeatens down to 4 from 5

SEC (5): 0 losses - Auburn; 1 loss - LSU; 2 losses - Alabama, Arkansas, Miss St
Big Ten (3): 0 losses - none; 1 loss - Wisconsin, Ohio St, Michigan St
Pac 10 (2): 0 losses - Oregon; 1 loss - Stanford
Big 12 (2): 0 losses - none; 1 loss - Nebraska, Okla St
ACC (0): 0 losses - none; 1 loss - none
Big East (0): 0 losses - none; 1 loss - none
Mountain West (1): 0 losses - TCU
WAC (1): 0 losses - Boise St
MAC (0): 0 losses - none
Conf USA (0): 0 losses - none
Sun Belt (0): 0 losses - none

you could nearly say 11 teams, as this really is NOT shaping up as a year where a two-loss SEC team will make it in. who's the best one-loss team out there? Wisconsin and Nebraska head the list, but neither really looked the part on Saturday... is it Stanford? it might be Ohio State, but they are out of the discussion unless Wisconsin loses again

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Nice comeback win for PSU against Northwestern and #400 for JoePa.....

Like that walk-on QB they have, much better than the other freshman....

[POJO_Risin]

Nice comeback win for PSU against Northwestern and #400 for JoePa.....

Like that walk-on QB they have, much better than the other freshman....

Ohio State just got a linebacker from Maryland...

The interesting piece to it was that he had Penn St. and Ohio St. as his clear top two choices. All the rumblings have Penn St. struggling to get recruits. Granted, this was a year in which they were only going after 15 or so...but I believe they are sitting at four right now.

So what's the big deal.

The rumors are arunnin'. Paterno was extremely ill in the offseason with an infection in his intestines. He came back much less capable than he had been in the past...which is understandable at 83. He's with the team less than an hour a day at practice, and the coaches aren't filling him in on game planning until Friday.

It's apparently hurting them in recruiting...with a few guys, in a sense, going about it alone. Then, once they get a bead on a kid, instead of Paterno saying, "Go get him," they are meeting in committee, and not agreeing on how and when to pull the trigger.

Now we all know the rumors likely aren't nearly as big or bad as they seem...but...

There are definitely cracks in the armor.

I have to wonder if Fitzgerald...from Northwestern...might be a good fit at Penn State.

I know that everyone is talking Bradley...and they'll likely go there...but boy...that will be a fought-after job IMO...

[PETE'S BROTHER]

go northwestern

[PETE'S BROTHER]

the school, not the general direction :hee:

[PETE'S BROTHER]

wisconsin is startin' to roll now

[POJO_Risin]

Don't worry...Ohio State will blow out Iowa...

[PETE'S BROTHER]

oof, 76-13

[PETE'S BROTHER]

20 rather

[POJO_Risin]

Northwestern pulls off the upset...

[PETE'S BROTHER]

sweet.

[POJO_Risin]

San Diego State is up 14-0 on TCU...

Penn State up 14-3 on tOSU...

[POJO_Risin]

Notre Dame is hammering Utah...

[POJO_Risin]

Penn State really should have taken the points there...They are dominating this game...but getting tOSU all fired up in their own joint is a mistake...and they may need those three points later on...

[POJO_Risin]

Of course...with Tressel's play-calling...Penn State may not need to fucking punt the rest of the game...

[POJO_Risin]

Hmmm...how's 100,000 OSU fans in your face...

NOW...we'll see who has moxie...

[TFM_Dale]

what a turn around. seen the suckeyes were losing so turned the tv to watch and now the bastards are up, this blows.

[POJO_Risin]

Well Dale...at least the 'queens can't lose today...;)

[TFM_Dale]

they tried to blow it, amazed they held someone under 30. our local high school team put up 35 on the Michigan D.

[TFM_Dale]

suckeyes should pay me to watch their games, this is getting ugly.

[Little Texan]

Suddenly TCU's blowout win over Utah last week doesn't look so impressive after Notre Dame blew them out again today.

[damngoodtimes]

after Notre Dame blew out Utah yesterday, I just can't get behind TCU in the title game. I still think Auburn gets beat by Bama, which will open up a slot. I firmly think a one-loss team like Wisconsin should get in there over Boise/TCU. If both Oregon and Auburn lose, I think the voters absolutely MUST put a one-loss BCS school in ahead of one of them.

[damngoodtimes]

okay, here's the new list. none of the 0 or 1 loss teams lost this week. However, I'm going to take out the 2-loss SEC schools now. with the title game set (Auburn - S. Carolina), none of them can make it to the BCS game now. there's just no way...

11 teams, down from 14 (Miss St, Alabama, Arkansas out)
unbeatens still at 4

SEC (2): 0 losses - Auburn; 1 loss - LSU
Big Ten (3): 0 losses - none; 1 loss - Wisconsin, Ohio St, Michigan St
Pac 10 (2): 0 losses - Oregon; 1 loss - Stanford
Big 12 (2): 0 losses - none; 1 loss - Nebraska, Okla St
ACC (0): 0 losses - none; 1 loss - none
Big East (0): 0 losses - none; 1 loss - none
Mountain West (1): 0 losses - TCU
WAC (1): 0 losses - Boise St
MAC (0): 0 losses - none
Conf USA (0): 0 losses - none
Sun Belt (0): 0 losses - none

[POJO_Risin]

after Notre Dame blew out Utah yesterday, I just can't get behind TCU in the title game. I still think Auburn gets beat by Bama, which will open up a slot. I firmly think a one-loss team like Wisconsin should get in there over Boise/TCU. If both Oregon and Auburn lose, I think the voters absolutely MUST put a one-loss BCS school in ahead of one of them.

Like I said...this could be the year that pushes the NCAA over the hump for a tournament. No matter what way you look at it...someone gets screwed. Let's be honest...there isn't a soul on the planet outside of Boise and TCU that thinks they should be in the title game without proving it week after week, or in a tourney. In my opinion...Wisconsin is as good a team as has come out of the Big Ten in awhile (it pains me to say), and I'd love to see them go up against a team like Auburn...who's good...but wouldn't be able to stop the run. Oregon was ripe for the taking last night..too bad that didn't happen...

We shall see...we shall see...

It would have been a fun tournament though...

[POJO_Risin]

Seriously...imagine an eight team tournament this year...and the pressure applied to teams like THE Ohio State trying to get into that eight slot...

Would...

Be...

Awesome...

[damngoodtimes]

I've always thought that you take your six BCS conference champs and two at-large. whatever ties you need for the non-AQ's as far as the at-large...fine.

Maybe in a year like this with two unbeatens, it would be Boise and TCU. of course, that would be a controversy also, with one-loss OSU, LSU, and Stanford getting beaten out. but all 3 of those teams lost on the field to keep themselves from a conference title. so, it's harder to complain.

I'd also have a way to lose your automatic, if like the Big East this year, your champ isn't at least top 15.

this shouldn't be so fuckin' hard.

[POJO_Risin]

I've always thought that you take your six BCS conference champs and two at-large. whatever ties you need for the non-AQ's as far as the at-large...fine.

Maybe in a year like this with two unbeatens, it would be Boise and TCU. of course, that would be a controversy also, with one-loss OSU, LSU, and Stanford getting beaten out. but all 3 of those teams lost on the field to keep themselves from a conference title. so, it's harder to complain.

I'd also have a way to lose your automatic, if like the Big East this year, your champ isn't at least top 15.

this shouldn't be so fuckin' hard.

But..some of these BCS leagues aren't any good...or similar to the smaller conferences...like the Big East and the ACC...so the conferences would have to change...

first...

I like the idea of taking out rankings...but conference championships...unless they all have a championship game...I don't know...

[damngoodtimes]

yeah, poj, if an "automatic" conference like the Big Least or ACC doesn't perform, you take away their bid (make it so the champ has to at least be top 15) and add an at-large. this year, you could get an LSU in instead of Pitt or Syracuse (or whatever shit team comes out of there).

but I've always been a big proponent of earning it on the field. if a conference doesn't have a championship game? so what? let each conf decide for themselves.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

this could be "hurty"

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Photo-The-Wrigley-Field-end-zones-are-kind-of-a?urn=ncaaf-285722

[TFM_Dale]

this could be "hurty"

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Photo-The-Wrigley-Field-end-zones-are-kind-of-a?urn=ncaaf-285722

Get a load of this

One end zone for offense at Wrigley

Only one end zone will be used for offense Saturday at Wrigley Field for the Illinois-Northwestern game because of safety concerns, the Big Ten announced Friday.

The east end zone is just feet away from the right-field wall, and although there is padding, there still were concerns that players could be injured there.

Northwestern coach Pat Fitzgerald had said this week that he would have different game plans for each end zone to avoid the possibility of injury.

When a team is on offense Saturday, it will be positioned to head to the west end zone.

"Though it's not ideal, it's the right thing," Northwestern athletic director Jim Phillips said on "The Waddle & Silvy Show" on ESPN 1000. "We've been planning for this for a while, there were no surprises. The field came out the way we thought, it ended up maybe being a little closer with some of the padding.

"As we looked at it -- the visual aspect of it -- this week, we just felt there was a low probability that something would happen. But had we taken every step that we could to ensure that the safety was maximized, and that we did everything we possibly could under our purview to make it as safe as possible? And the more we thought about it, the more we talked about it, we looked at it, we just felt like this was something we needed to do. And it was complete uniformity between the Big Ten conference, and Northwestern and Illinois. At the heart of it was to make sure we had done everything we could to make it safe."

In a statement issued by the Big Ten, the following changes will be made:

• All offensive plays will head toward the west end zone, including all extra points and all overtime possessions.

• All kickoffs will be kicked toward the east end zone.

• After every change of possession, the ball will be repositioned for the offense to head toward the west end zone.

• As a result of a coin toss held by the conference office Friday morning, Illinois will occupy the west team bench in the first half and Northwestern will occupy the west team bench in the second half and for all overtime periods.

"The health and safety of our student-athletes is of the utmost importance," Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany said in the statement. "Both Illinois and Northwestern did significant due diligence over the past 18 months, but after seeing the actual layout of the field, all parties felt that it was appropriate to adjust the rules to further enhance the safety of our student-athletes. Wrigley Field is one of the most historic venues in the country, and playing the Illinois-Northwestern game at this facility will provide a once-in-a-lifetime experience for student-athletes, coaches and fans."

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/ncf/news/story?id=5824661

That is about a load of shit, why schedule a game where it can't be played properly? Makes no sense to me.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

the next one is on an aircraft carrier

[PETE'S BROTHER]

nevermind, that's hoops:biggrin:

[chefcraig]

That is about a load of shit, why schedule a game where it can't be played properly? Makes no sense to me.

The layout really is boneheaded, as the play will always be in one direction. Who wants to sit on the right field side, if the action is always going away from the fans seated there?

[TFM_Dale]

The layout really is boneheaded, as the play will always be in one direction. Who wants to sit on the right field side, if the action is always going away from the fans seated there?

Not to mention tickets have already been bought for the game, I would be pissed right off if I bought a end zone seat then found out about this.

[chefcraig]

Using Google Image (football at wrigley), take a look at the way the field was set for football in the old days. It wasn't much better. Also check out "Football at Yankee Stadium", there wasn't much of an improvement. :biggrin:

[chefcraig]

Best line of the day, from Tony Reali on Around the Horn: "What happens if there is an interception? Does the guy run to the 50 yard line, then turn around an run the other way?"

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Best line of the day, from Tony Reali on Around the Horn: "What happens if there is an interception? Does the guy run to the 50 yard line, then turn around an run the other way?"

awesome:biggrin:

[POJO_Risin]

Get a load of this

One end zone for offense at Wrigley

Only one end zone will be used for offense Saturday at Wrigley Field for the Illinois-Northwestern game because of safety concerns, the Big Ten announced Friday.

The east end zone is just feet away from the right-field wall, and although there is padding, there still were concerns that players could be injured there.

Northwestern coach Pat Fitzgerald had said this week that he would have different game plans for each end zone to avoid the possibility of injury.

When a team is on offense Saturday, it will be positioned to head to the west end zone.

"Though it's not ideal, it's the right thing," Northwestern athletic director Jim Phillips said on "The Waddle & Silvy Show" on ESPN 1000. "We've been planning for this for a while, there were no surprises. The field came out the way we thought, it ended up maybe being a little closer with some of the padding.

"As we looked at it -- the visual aspect of it -- this week, we just felt there was a low probability that something would happen. But had we taken every step that we could to ensure that the safety was maximized, and that we did everything we possibly could under our purview to make it as safe as possible? And the more we thought about it, the more we talked about it, we looked at it, we just felt like this was something we needed to do. And it was complete uniformity between the Big Ten conference, and Northwestern and Illinois. At the heart of it was to make sure we had done everything we could to make it safe."

In a statement issued by the Big Ten, the following changes will be made:

• All offensive plays will head toward the west end zone, including all extra points and all overtime possessions.

• All kickoffs will be kicked toward the east end zone.

• After every change of possession, the ball will be repositioned for the offense to head toward the west end zone.

• As a result of a coin toss held by the conference office Friday morning, Illinois will occupy the west team bench in the first half and Northwestern will occupy the west team bench in the second half and for all overtime periods.

"The health and safety of our student-athletes is of the utmost importance," Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany said in the statement. "Both Illinois and Northwestern did significant due diligence over the past 18 months, but after seeing the actual layout of the field, all parties felt that it was appropriate to adjust the rules to further enhance the safety of our student-athletes. Wrigley Field is one of the most historic venues in the country, and playing the Illinois-Northwestern game at this facility will provide a once-in-a-lifetime experience for student-athletes, coaches and fans."

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/ncf/news/story?id=5824661

That is about a load of shit, why schedule a game where it can't be played properly? Makes no sense to me.

In all seriousness...this is the stupidest fucking thing in the history of football...fucking idiocy that this wasn't thought out way ahead of time...

and who gets screwed in the end?

People spending the fucking money...

[chefcraig]

In all seriousness...this is the stupidest fucking thing in the history of football...fucking idiocy that this wasn't thought out way ahead of time...

and who gets screwed in the end?

People spending the fucking money...

I agree. Imagine buying tickets for the end zone, only to discover the only time you would see any action was on a kick off as the players move away from you on every set of downs? I mean really, just look at this fuckin' shit...


http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/551/wrigleyfieldjpgba9e2ae0.jpg (http://img823.imageshack.us/i/wrigleyfieldjpgba9e2ae0.jpg/)

OK, the way the field was configured when the Bears used it in the old days, one end zone was up against the dugout. But if anyone had noticed this today, why wasn't the game moved to Soldier Field?


http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/72/wriggs.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/i/wriggs.jpg/)

[PETE'S BROTHER]

10-0 badgers!

[chefcraig]

10-0 badgers!

Jesus, I clicked that on a few minutes ago, and it isn't even a game at this point. 24-0 in the 3rd.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

24-7 now, but we're good i think

[PETE'S BROTHER]

fuck, 31-21

[PETE'S BROTHER]

breathin' room....41-21

[chefcraig]

breathin' room....41-21

WTF? I was out doing some crap in the yard, and apparently I missed a few things. :confused13:

[PETE'S BROTHER]

28 point 3rd quarter

[PETE'S BROTHER]

48-28 now, under 3 min, thank god

[PETE'S BROTHER]

go purdue!!

[PETE'S BROTHER]

game, set, match. chef could you condense my updates to one post so as to keep twona content :tongue0011:

[chefcraig]

Nah, I don't mod the sports forum anymore. In any event, it's no biggie...after all, you should see the post count in the Fantasy thread on Sundays while people are watching football. :biggrin:

[PETE'S BROTHER]

i'm just bein' grouchy, all is good!!!

[chefcraig]

i'm just bein' grouchy, all is good!!!

OK. I'm getting ready for Illinois/Northwestern. That should be interesting to watch. :lol:

[chefcraig]

Man, this looks even dumber than I thought it would. The officials have to keep running up and down in order to flip the field during a turnover. And if a call is overturned in replay, they have to do it all over again.

[damngoodtimes]

well, those poor fucks in the end zone got one score... a pick 6..

no, they didn't turn around at the 50. but they did go to the other end to kick the extra point....

[damngoodtimes]

Nebraska goes down, 9-6. one less one-loss team.

LSU had to pull another rabbit out of a hat to beat a BAD Ole Miss team. I don't see how they can continue to be ranked all the way up at #5.

Wisconsin should be #5, followed by Stanford and tOSU (either order), then mix in LSU, MSU and Oklahoma St (actually, Wisconsin should be #3 and we should put these mid-majors back at 11 or 12 where they always used to go when they beat all the seminary schools and cosmetology colleges on their schedules)

[POJO_Risin]

You know what...fuck 'em over again...stick 'em in a fucking bowl game together...

fuckin' put them in the Bluebonnet bowl...bring that fucker back...

and fuck Les Miles...with the talent that guy gets...LSU should be undefeated and blowing out teams weekly...

[POJO_Risin]

The good news...

Rich Rodriguez wins enough to not get fired...

and his recruiting class...rumor has it...blows ass...

Dale...is that true? I heard that a coupla days ago...

[TFM_Dale]

The good news...

Rich Rodriguez wins enough to not get fired...

and his recruiting class...rumor has it...blows ass...

Dale...is that true? I heard that a coupla days ago...

I still wouldn't be surprised to see R-Rod fired, the current state of our defense is unacceptable and now that the team is pretty much all his it is the worst it has ever been. I've said it all year long, I love a flashy offense but when your D is this bad changes have to be made. That said the recruiting class isn't looking great and needs far more play makers on defense. It is sad really that Michigan's defense has gotten this bad, I can't even imagine any of these assholes playing in the NFL and when was the last time Michigan hasn't had NFL talent on D? Love them or hate them they usually pump out NFL prospects.

[hideyoursheep]

...And Paterno will return for his 2011th season.

tOSU President slams Boise State!

"....having been both a Southeastern Conference president and a Big Ten president, that it's like murderer's row every week for these schools. We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor. We play very fine schools on any given day.

"So I think until a university runs through that gantlet that there's some reason to believe that they not be the best teams to [be] in the big ballgame."

Since the Buckeyes are out of Rose Bowl contention for the moment, I only hope that we can get matched up with Boise St. in a bowl and run up in 'em....HARD.

[chefcraig]

How the mighty have fallen...Florida State is currently walking all over the Gators, as the wheels have definitely come off Urban Meyer's wagon.

[POJO_Risin]

...And Paterno will return for his 2011th season.

tOSU President slams Boise State!

"....having been both a Southeastern Conference president and a Big Ten president, that it's like murderer's row every week for these schools. We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor. We play very fine schools on any given day.

"So I think until a university runs through that gantlet that there's some reason to believe that they not be the best teams to [be] in the big ballgame."

Since the Buckeyes are out of Rose Bowl contention for the moment, I only hope that we can get matched up with Boise St. in a bowl and run up in 'em....HARD.

You know...the way things are going with LSU...it could play out that way, of course...not Boise...but TCU. And I do think TCU is the real deal this year...moreso than Boise...

[Little Texan]

Anyone catch the Boise St.-Nevada game last night? What a game that one was! I started watching it in the third quarter when the score was 24-7 Boise, and watched as Nevada slowly crawled their way back into the game and eventually tied the score. Then, on the next Boise possession, their QB throws a desperation heave downfield that is caught around the 8 yard line. Well, I'm thinking that's the game as it's just a chipshot field goal from there, but the kicker chokes and kicks it wide right! Game goes to OT, Nevada wins the toss and opts to go on defense first. Boise can't move the ball against Nevada's D and ends up having to go for the field goal. The kicker winds up choking again, pushing it wide left this time! Nevada gets the ball, runs a few plays, kicks the game winning field goal, and exposes Boise for the vastly overrated, cupcake playing frauds they've been all season! I was rooting hard for Nevada to win so that TCU wouldn't get leapfrogged by Boise in the BCS standings and would still have a shot at the National Championship were Oregon or Auburn to fuck up next week.

[Little Texan]

TCU is going to end up being left out in the cold again after another perfect season. Div I college football desperately needs a playoff system to replace this retarded B_S system that is currently in place. That is the only way that a true national champion will ever be determined. I'm hoping that TCU can crash the B_S party next weekend by either Auburn or Oregon losing.

[Von Halen]

I watched it. They really need to remove kickers from the game. How many times has a kicker stood on the sideline a whole game with his thumb in his ass, while his teammates give their blood sweat and tears on the field, only to have that fucker come in the game and promptly lose it for them? I hate kickers.

[Von Halen]

Who does Auburn play next week? I still say Saban threw that game for the sake of getting an SEC team in the National Championship game.

[Little Texan]

Who does Auburn play next week? I still say Saban threw that game for the sake of getting an SEC team in the National Championship game.

I believe they play South Carolina in the SEC championship game. South Carolina played them pretty tough earlier in the season, and Auburn only beat them by a touchdown after SC led going into the fourth quarter.

[Von Halen]

I think Wisconsin could beat anyone in the Country right now.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

this was maybe wrong in the ohio state thread, but hey, we're co-/tri-co?champs:baaa:

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[Little Texan]

TCU should have been in the Big 12 instead of Baylor, but back when the conference was formed, TCU had a shitty football program and Baylor had always been a respectable program in the Southwest Conference. Now it is just the opposite...Baylor has been the conference doormat for most of its Big 12 tenure and TCU has emerged as a perennial football powerhouse in that same time period.

[Von Halen]

What a fucking joke the NCAA and the BCS are.

The Big 11 = Three way tie at the top.

The Big 12 = Three way tie at the top.

There needs to be a fucking PLAYOFF!

Wisconsin is probably the best team in the Country right now. RIGHT NOW! What about after a fucking MONTH off from playing games? Will they still be the best team? Will they be able to maintain their momentum through a MONTH of fucking practices? The piece of shit old boys network NCAA should be blown away right now. There is no reason they can't start a playoff in December, and culminate it all with the Bowl games. There is NO FUCKING REASON this cannot be done!

I am not pitching this bitch because I am some big ass Cheesehead fan. I just happen to think they are the best team right now, and should have the chance to prove it.

Fucking Auburn. Fuck Auburn. The most overrated team in the Country. By far. Fucking tan boy Saban threw that game for the sake of the SEC. I don't believe for a minute, that didn't happen.

Wisconsin should boycott whatever Bowl they are invited to, and then invite the winner of the fraud National Championship game to their own Bowl game. They can call it the "Fuck You Bowl". In fact, several top teams should boycott the Bowls. Set up their own Bowl game, and keep all the money for their programs.

[POJO_Risin]

Here are the predictions from two fucks at ESPN...

BCS National Championship Game
(BCS No. 1 vs. BCS No. 2) Oregon vs. Auburn Oregon vs. Auburn
Allstate Sugar
(BCS vs. BCS) Arkansas vs. Ohio State Arkansas vs. Ohio State
Discover Orange
(BCS vs. BCS) Virginia Tech vs. West Virginia Virginia Tech vs. Stanford
Fiesta
(BCS vs. BCS) Oklahoma vs. Stanford Oklahoma vs. Connecticut
Rose Bowl Game presented by VIZIO
(BCS vs. BCS) Wisconsin vs. TCU Wisconsin vs. TCU

[POJO_Risin]

Ohio State against fucking Bobby Petrino...He's a fucking cunt...and so is his team...

and his QB?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2006/2044286826_0aeb51e56d.jpg

[POJO_Risin]

Okay...

Michigan isn't going to do anything with regards to their coach until after the bowl game. It's idiotic, but, that's what they are going to do.

To make matters more interesting? Thursday Night is their football banquet.

They are honoring their 1985 Michigan Wolverines...

Who was their QB?

Jim Harbaugh...

Who will be in attendance?

Jim Harbaugh...

hehehehehe...

You can't make this shit up...

[POJO_Risin]

Perhaps Michigan is trying to avoid the scenario in which they fire DickRod early, then rampant speculation forces Harbaugh to stay put at Stanford, with a BCS bowl coming up. He's not Brian Kelly...he'd come out and say, "I'm staying."

[chefcraig]

Perhaps Michigan is trying to avoid the scenario in which they fire DickRod early, then rampant speculation forces Harbaugh to stay put at Stanford, with a BCS bowl coming up. He's not Brian Kelly...he'd come out and say, "I'm staying."

I don't really know how these rumors start and get into the drinking water, but over the weekend I heard at least three broadcasters mention Harbaugh for the 49ers job. And don't forget, UM fired Shannon Saturday. This brings up some interesting stuff, considering that Denver is more than likely looking for a coach as well. As things go forward, you have to imagine the usual suspects (Cowher, Gruden) will get added to the list with so many openings and so few genuine prospects, other than a handful of offensive coordinators.

[POJO_Risin]

Oh...I know...it just really depends on what Harbaugh wants to do. I can't express to you enough what it means to have a "Michigan Man" in there for the coaching job. It was the same at tOSU. And Harbaugh is exactly what they need...a motivator that runs a pro style offense.

He may want a pro job though...we'll just have to wait and see...but believe me...Michigan is talking to Harbaugh if they are planning to make a move, and if he leaves Stanford, and that's a big if, then Michigan would have to be at the top of the list.

[POJO_Risin]

I still say Cowher is lined up to take the Carolina job...all this other talk...is just that...talk...

It's about the relationship he'd have with the owner, and the control he'd have...which would be a lot...

Now...the only other job that I think could interest him...would be the Giants, and that could happen as well.

[chefcraig]

It's just odd the way these colleges seem to change their minds about direction every few years. Look at Miami, for instance. They brought in Shannon because he would straighten out the program and get rid of it's "Thug U" reputation. Plus he was an alum. So what does he do? Just what they asked. Only one arrest in his tenure, but a 28-22 record. So all of a sudden, wining is a priority, and he gets the boot.

I'll be willing to bet they go after Gruden, and if he starts wining, they'll sit back and be quiet, watching the crime rate rise for a few years. After a title or two, once again it will be time to make a change.

[Von Halen]

Harbaugh won't be at the Michigan function. In my mind, that implicates him even more as a candidate. I sure hope I am wrong.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

think gruden would wanna coach college ball?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/531173-is-jon-gruden-the-right-fit-for-the-university-of-miami-hurricanes?source=rss_teams_Miami_(Fla.)_Hurricane s

[chefcraig]

think gruden would wanna coach college ball?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/531173-is-jon-gruden-the-right-fit-for-the-university-of-miami-hurricanes?source=rss_teams_Miami_(Fla.)_Hurricane s

Pojo and me were talking about this yesterday morning, when the rumors first started. Since then it has spread like wildfire, and the story is all over the local papers and sports radio here. Word has it Gruden met with UM's AD Kirby Hocutt Tuesday evening, and Gruden's brother Jay will serve as offensive coordinator.

[hideyoursheep]

TCU in the Rose Bowl vs Wisconsin....I like it.

Unless the Cocks stick it to Auburn, then what? Does Wisconsin jump over TCU and reach the NC game, or do the Frogs finally get a shot at the title?

I can't believe Oregon is going to make it to the title game. Oregon. :019:

Wisconsin put a great season together this year. JJ Watt should be put in a fucking cage. He's an animal. But I have to mention that the Badgers let Mishitgan score 28 points where Ohio State only gave up 7. :)

[POJO_Risin]

TCU in the Rose Bowl vs Wisconsin....I like it.

Unless the Cocks stick it to Auburn, then what? Does Wisconsin jump over TCU and reach the NC game, or do the Frogs finally get a shot at the title?

I can't believe Oregon is going to make it to the title game. Oregon. :019:

Wisconsin put a great season together this year. JJ Watt should be put in a fucking cage. He's an animal. But I have to mention that the Badgers let Mishitgan score 28 points where Ohio State only gave up 7. :)

If Wisconsin jumped TCU...oh boy...the fun and joy that that would bring. If TCU played Oregon, I'd back TCU.

I still say that TCU isn't as mid-major as say, Boise St. Am I the only one that remembers that less than 15 years ago, TCU was a member of the SWC, that included Arkansas, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech and SMU (when they were a power).

So while TCU was forced into a mid-major conference, and have had to live that life, this team has a tradition that goes beyond Boise St. TCU moving to the Big East is a natural progression. Hell, the Big Ten should have went after them...

[POJO_Risin]

Am I the only one that questions whether or not Gruden can coach in the college ranks?

[chefcraig]

Am I the only one that questions whether or not Gruden can coach in the college ranks?

Apparently not. According to sports radio here last evening (and today's local papers), the deal is off. It came down to money issues, as Gruden (rightfully) wanted carte blanche in putting a staff together. The fact is, he can make more money in the booth for ESPN than on the sidelines for a college team. Besides, he hasn't coached college ball for something like 20 years, and never as a head coach.

My guess is that he'll bide his time as the NFL season winds down and see what's open then, or wait another year.

[damngoodtimes]

I've assumed that, unless Holmgren decides he wants to coach again (which I don't think he will), Gruden would be in line to coach the Browns if Mangini gets the axe.

he's a Holmgren guy, grew up in Ohio as a Browns fan, etc

[damngoodtimes]

I don't think Wisconsin would jump TCU. a big chunk of voters have the mid-major bug this year. I think some of it is just wanting to upset the apple cart.

now, if BOTH Auburn and Oregon lose...

maybe.

I can't see Stanford getting in no matter what, because they can't pass Oregon (even with a Duck loss). I don't know why they don't pass a rule that requires a team to win their conference.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Go beavers!

[hideyoursheep]

If Wisconsin jumped TCU...oh boy...the fun and joy that that would bring. If TCU played Oregon, I'd back TCU.

I still say that TCU isn't as mid-major as say, Boise St. Am I the only one that remembers that less than 15 years ago, TCU was a member of the SWC, that included Arkansas, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech and SMU (when they were a power).

So while TCU was forced into a mid-major conference, and have had to live that life, this team has a tradition that goes beyond Boise St. TCU moving to the Big East is a natural progression. Hell, the Big Ten should have went after them...

I agree with you on the TCU being more "legit" than Boise St., and a big reason that the voters have a "mid-major bug", as DGT put it, is because of both TCU and Boise's record over the last few years..hard to ignore, even if they didn't really play anyone. I think TCU beat Boise last year in the Fiesta Bowl?

[damngoodtimes]

no. Boise won last year.

Let's see if the Cocks or the Beavers can pull the upset today.

if so, it should make for some interesting discussion between tonight and tomorrow's selections.

[damngoodtimes]

well, no drama at all.

Auburn and Oregon for all the Tostitos.

I guess defense does NOT win championships.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

rose bowl bound, it is good to be back :baaa:

[damngoodtimes]

Wisconsin is representing all 6 BCS leagues in Pasadena this year (well, actually 5 of them, since the Big Least is adding TCU).

Time for the Badgers to roll up 45 or 50 on 'em.

[SilvioDante]

I thought this a might funny, summing up the Cam Newton situation...

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[Von Halen]

Urban Meyer stepping down at Florida.

Good.

I am sick of this guy trying to get all the attention on himself. Don't change your mind this time, dickface.

[chefcraig]

Urban Meyer stepping down at Florida.

Good.

I am sick of this guy trying to get all the attention on himself. Don't change your mind this time, dickface.

Yeah, we saw this last year. Much like Brett Favre, I'll believe it when the season is underway and he isn't on the sideline, let alone within thirty miles of the stadium. Wanna bet he tries to hitch up again with Tebow in Denver?

[Little Texan]

Urban Meyer stepping down at Florida.

Good.

I am sick of this guy trying to get all the attention on himself. Don't change your mind this time, dickface.

Don't worry, I'm sure he'll have a "change of heart" in a couple of months and be back next year, attention whore that he is.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Text SizeAAACHICAGO -- It'll be the Leaders vs. the Legends divisions when the Big Ten stages its first football championship game next season.

The conference also on Monday unveiled a new logo -- it is a block "Big Ten" with the numeral 10 embedded in the word last two letters of Big -- as well as two-person trophy names for 18 new football awards, including the Stagg-Paterno Championship Trophy and the Hayes-Schembechler Coach of the Year. The new logo, made up of light blue letters on a white background, is meant to update the expanded league's look.

With Nebraska becoming the conference's 12th team earlier this year, the conference created new divisions that it introduced in September. Illinois, Indiana, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue and Wisconsin will be in the Leaders Division, with Iowa, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Nebraska and Northwestern in the Legends Division.

eh....

[PETE'S BROTHER]

http://www.channel3000.com/sports/26117535/detail.html

[Von Halen]

The conference also on Monday unveiled a new logo -- it is a block "Big Ten" with the numeral 10 embedded in the word last two letters of Big

Brilliant. A brand spanking new logo, with the WRONG amount of teams signified. And the Big "10" expects people to respect them...

[Little Texan]

Brilliant. A brand spanking new logo, with the WRONG amount of teams signified. And the Big "10" expects people to respect them...

Yeah, that makes a huge amount of sense. The last several years they have had 11 teams and called themselves the Big 10, and had 11 embedded in the logo. Now that they have 12 teams in the conference, they have reduced the number in the logo to 10? WTF? Wouldn't it make more sense for the Big 12 and the Big 10 to trade names since the Big 12 is going to be 10 teams and the Big 10 is going to be 12 teams next year?

[PETE'S BROTHER]

they should call it "bigger than ten".

[fifth element]

they should call it "bigger than ten".

lol...not bad.....

[damngoodtimes]

hey, I'm a Big Ten guy, but Leaders and Legends? pretentious much?

They should swap Wisconsin and Michigan and just make it fuckin' East and West.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

or "pimps" and "hos":biggrin:

[PETE'S BROTHER]

:biggrin:

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/heatindex/articles/2010/12/14/20101214big-10-jim-delany-changes-heat-index.html

Anyway, the Big 10 unveiled a new logo Monday. We don't want to suggest that they were ripped off, but you could blindfold a kindergartner, spin the little fella around 25 times, hand him a crayon and he'd draw something better on the wall.

Or he'd puke on the floor, which would also be every bit as original.

Reportedly, the logo was spit up - er, out - by Pentagram, a design company with offices in London, San Francisco, New York, Berlin and Big 12 hotbed Austin, where we suspect they're getting a big-as-Texas yuck today.



Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/sports/heatindex/articles/2010/12/14/20101214big-10-jim-delany-changes-heat-index.html#ixzz18D1XoS5U

[PETE'S BROTHER]

i think i love this cuban guy.....

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Finally-Mark-Cuban-has-a-plan-to-put-the-BCS-ou?urn=ncaaf-296649

"Put $500 million in the bank and go to all the schools and pay them money as an option," Cuban said. "Say, 'Look, I'm going to give you X amount every five years. In exchange, you say if you're picked for the playoff system, you'll go.'"
[…]
"[The BCS is] an inefficient business where there's obviously a better way of doing it," Cuban said. "The only thing that's kept them from doing it is a lack of capital, which I can deal with. …"

[PETE'S BROTHER]

hey, I'm a Big Ten guy, but Leaders and Legends? pretentious much?

They should swap Wisconsin and Michigan and just make it fuckin' East and West.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/businessofsports.html

"We've had enough experience with names and expansion and development of divisions that we know that you rarely get a 90% approval rating. But to get a 90% non-approval rating was really surprising. It showed that we didn’t connect with our fans in a way that we wanted to. It’s humbling, to say the least, because we’re trying to build fan bases, not push them away.

[High Life Man]

Delaney is a putz.

Posted: Friday December 17, 2010 12:50PM ; Updated: Friday December 17, 2010 1:18PM
Big Ten could revisit division names

Story Highlights
Jim Delany says the Big Ten may consider renaming its new divisions
'Legends and Leaders' has generated overwhelmingly negative feedback
Delany: 'To get a 90 percent non-approval rating was ... really surprising'

CHICAGO (AP) -- Jim Delany has spent more than two decades as commissioner of the Big Ten, overseeing two conference expansions and the formation of the Big Ten Network.

None of it prepared him for the overwhelmingly negative reaction to the conference's new division names.

Delany said during an interview with WGN AM-720 in Chicago on Thursday that the names Legends and Leaders were picked to highlight the conference's rich history, and that "to a great extent it's fallen on deaf ears." Many fans have instead mocked the names and asked officials to reconsider, which Delany said could happen after the first of the year.

"I think we have enough experience with names, and expansion and development of divisions, to know that you never, rarely, get 90 percent approval rating," Delany said during the interview. "But to get a 90 percent non-approval rating was, you know, really surprising."

The league will be split into two divisions beginning next season, when Nebraska becomes the 12th member. The Huskers will be joined by Northwestern, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota and Iowa in the Legends Division. Illinois, Indiana, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue and Wisconsin will comprise the Leaders Division.

At least, assuming those are still the names by then.

"We want to breathe a little bit," Delany said. "I don't think you make a judgment in 48 hours or 72 hours. Eventually we're going to have to address the issue of whether or not it's sustainable, but I don't think that's an issue for today."

Delany said the conference chose the divisions based on parity, rather than geography, which made naming them East-West or North-South impractical. The Big Ten also considered using names of historic players or coaches, but Delany said that would have been "too limiting."

The commissioner also said there was little consideration given to changing the conference name from the Big Ten, unlike in 1990, when Penn State became the 11th member.

Delany said university faculty, presidents and alumni supported keeping "Big Ten" and that it represents a brand rather than the number of institutions. The name change also would have affected the branding of the Big Ten Network, which launched in 2007.

"It's humbling, to say the least, because we're trying to build fan bases, not push them away," Delany said of the uproar caused by the new division names. "I was surprised. I've been around this business a long time, and it's one of the more surprising things."

[hideyoursheep]

In my college pick 'em I got my shit pushed in the first 4 bowl games- :pullinghair: Now things are looking better!

[POJO_Risin]

Here are the top ten spending universities with regard to their football programs:

Top 10 spenders:
1. Ohio State, $31,763,036
2. Alabama, $31,118,134
3. Notre Dame, $29,490,788
4. Auburn, $27,911,713
5. LSU, $25,566,520
6. Florida, $24,457,557
7. South Carolina, $22,794,211
8. Wisconsin, $22,041,491
9. Arkansas $22,005,014
10. TCU $20,609,361

There's a couple of interesting teams in there. First...there's Notre Dame...how funny is that.

Second...there's TCU...tenth in the country. People calling the former SWC member a mid-major team is kidding themselves. Sure, they play shit teams...but that college has the capital to bring in top prospects...year after year.

To put it more into perspective...here's the schools that pay the most per underclassmen that attends the school:

1. Notre Dame, $3,531
2. Tulsa, $3,236
3. TCU, $2,822
4. Stanford, $2,625
5. SMU, $2,113
6. Miami (FL), $1,927
7. Boston College, $1,891
8. Northwestern, $1,851
9. Arkansas, $1,625
10. Auburn $1,518

There's fucking Tulsa and TCU again...

Is it really a surprise that they are good year after year?

[POJO_Risin]

Now...how about Boise St.:


Boise State, meanwhile, looks like a bargain. The underdog Broncos stayed in contention for the national title all year with a program that spends a fraction of what the big boys do. The tab: $6.85 million for an average of $564 a student for a program that ended up winning the MAACO Bowl this year.

[chefcraig]

Is anyone else watching this fucked-up-beyond-belief Tennessee/NC game?

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[FORD]

And at the end of the 1st quarter in the Holiday Bowl....

DAWGS 10
Cornholers 0

[POJO_Risin]

10-7...

If Washington wins this game...I would be shocked. I would love for Locker to somehow recreate the momentum he had last year...for the draft this year...

He really hurt himself this year...but I think he'll be a good one, and someone will get him on the steal later than he should go...

[FORD]

It would be great if the Seahawks could pick him up. Hasselprick is almost as useless as his sister in law lately.

[POJO_Risin]

It would be great if the Seahawks could pick him up. Hasselprick is almost as useless as his sister in law lately.

INT Washington...

Nothing is more irritating than when a team keeps a QB way past their effectiveness. It's fucking shameful...and to not have any backups in place worth a damn...

Is there talk of Locker? If they win the division and drop to the mid-20's, I could see them taking Locker...remember...he plays for Sarkisian, a Carroll disciple...

[POJO_Risin]

I seriously fucking hate Mark May...

that fucking guy needs his ass kicked. What we need to do is get rid of Holtz, and hire Chris fucking Spielman. Then we'll see if that cocksucker opens up his mouth about the Buckeyes. I've never seen a fucking desk jockey so fucking clearly against a team in all my fucking life...

the whore...

[Unchainme]

I seriously fucking hate Mark May...

that fucking guy needs his ass kicked. What we need to do is get rid of Holtz, and hire Chris fucking Spielman. Then we'll see if that cocksucker opens up his mouth about the Buckeyes. I've never seen a fucking desk jockey so fucking clearly against a team in all my fucking life...

the whore...

couldn't fucking hit the thanks-button fast enough.

did you see my post where he said that if what happened during tattoo gate? claiming that if it were arkansas, they would have had their players banned from the game because the NCAA loves the big 10/pac 10 :rolleyes:.

I'm wondering, did the dude get passed over for a scholarship from a big 10 school like TOSU or did Pitt get their ass kicked?

[FORD]

About two minutes into the second half.... Locker tired of trying to complete a pass, runs in for the touchdown himself.

DAWGS 17
Cornholers 7

[FORD]

About two minutes into the second half.... Locker tired of trying to complete a pass, runs in for the touchdown himself.

DAWGS 17
Cornholers 7

[POJO_Risin]

couldn't fucking hit the thanks-button fast enough.

did you see my post where he said that if what happened during tattoo gate? claiming that if it were arkansas, they would have had their players banned from the game because the NCAA loves the big 10/pac 10 :rolleyes:.

I'm wondering, did the dude get passed over for a scholarship from a big 10 school like TOSU or did Pitt get their ass kicked?

So let me get this straight...Mark May thinks that Bobby Petrino would ban their players? He can go fuck himself...

[POJO_Risin]

couldn't fucking hit the thanks-button fast enough.

did you see my post where he said that if what happened during tattoo gate? claiming that if it were arkansas, they would have had their players banned from the game because the NCAA loves the big 10/pac 10 :rolleyes:.

I'm wondering, did the dude get passed over for a scholarship from a big 10 school like TOSU or did Pitt get their ass kicked?

So let me get this straight...Mark May thinks that Bobby Petrino would ban their players? He can go fuck himself...

[FORD]

Since when does the NCAA love the Pac10 anyway? Just look at what happens to any Pac 10 team when they become too good. (i.e. the Dawgs under Don James or USC under Pete Carroll)

[Unchainme]

So let me get this straight...Mark May thinks that Bobby Petrino would ban their players? He can go fuck himself...

I can't recall the exact line, but he was claiming that the NCAA was playing favorites, and insisted that if Arkansas had been the one with the allegations, they would have been kicked out of the game.

I think it stems partially as well from him being wrong on the 06 title game, like every other analyst was on the network due to TOSU just coming out so lethargic, they had to latch onto something do to the egg that was laid, and sucking the SEC cock was the easiest thing to do.

[Unchainme]

So let me get this straight...Mark May thinks that Bobby Petrino would ban their players? He can go fuck himself...

I can't recall the exact line, but he was claiming that the NCAA was playing favorites, and insisted that if Arkansas had been the one with the allegations, they would have been kicked out of the game.

I think it stems partially as well from him being wrong on the 06 title game, like every other analyst was on the network due to TOSU just coming out so lethargic, they had to latch onto something do to the egg that was laid, and sucking the SEC cock was the easiest thing to do.

[FORD]

Sucking the SEC cock is something the NCAA does well. :blow:

[FORD]

Holiday Bowl Final....

Dawgs 19
Cornholers 7

Though they should have finished off the game with another touch down rather than piss away the last minute like they did. Would have looked that much better for Locker's future prospects, especially if he had run it in himself.

[chefcraig]

Crap, between the lack of defense on either side and the generally crummy officiating, whomever has the ball last in this Penn State/Gators game will be the winner. :yikes:

[Little Texan]

How 'bout them TCU Horned Frogs? :baaa:

[High Life Man]

How 'bout them TCU Horned Frogs? :baaa:

Yuck.

Went to the game today. Awful officiating...but that's not why we lost.

Bad coaching, sloppy defense.

Enjoy it.

[Little Texan]

Yuck.

Went to the game today. Awful officiating...but that's not why we lost.

Bad coaching, sloppy defense.

Enjoy it.

You were AT the Rose Bowl? I'll bet that was a cool experience other than the result of the game. How much were the tickets...were they pricey?

[Little Texan]

Don't feel bad, HLM. Wisconsin did great compared to the other Big 11 schools on Saturday.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

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[FORD]

One more college bowl game to go.....

Go Duckies!