The Rolling Stones Exile on Main Street

[Satan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK6KA4QILUc

Most Unholy job of restoration, boys. The Devil is once again proud of you.

[Jack68]

Sounds good to me.

[ThrillsNSpills]

"Paint it Black, Paint it Black you Devil"

Have any of the 10 bonus tracks with Mick Taylor been out already in various forms and if so how's the quality?

[chefcraig]

Damn, what is arguably the best Stones track in close to 24 years winds up being a nearly 40 year old outtake. Go figure. :(

[chefcraig]

By the way, there is an excellent article about this album and it's re-issue available here:
The Stones and the true story of Exile on Main St (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/apr/25/stones-exile-on-main-street)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEMSqR-kvtc&feature=fvw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pts5LB6BvYQ&feature=related

[FORD]

"Paint it Black, Paint it Black you Devil"

Have any of the 10 bonus tracks with Mick Taylor been out already in various forms and if so how's the quality?
Here's a sampler of the bonus disc.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8qgryKckNE

1. Pass The Wine (Sophia Loren)
2. Plundered My Soul
3. I'm Not Signifying
4. Following The River
5. Dancing In The Light
6. So Divine (Aladdin Story)
7. Loving Cup (Alternate Take)
8. Soul Survivor (Alternate Take)
9. Good Time Women
10. Title 5
11. All Down The Line (Alternate Take)

Of the tracks listed, "I'm Not Signifying", "Loving Cup" and "Good Time Women" sound the same here as they do on the boots. "Dancing in the Light" and "So Divine" were available as instrumentals on the boots. The version of "All Down The Line" here sounds like an original recording too, but I've never heard it before. It's definitely not the semi-acoustic version of that song from 1969, but it sounds like that same era. I've never heard the "Keith" version of Soul Survivor either, but that soundbite is interesting. At least you can tell it's Keith, unlike that version of Gimme Shelter commonly found on 1500 different Stones boots that really doesn't sound like him at all.

[FORD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXcqcdYABFw

[ThrillsNSpills]

I wish Mick Taylor never left. His style was perfect for them.
The stuff he plays in Rocks Off are subtle but brilliant . That's one tune you just can't play at a low volume, and when the horns kick in it brings everything up a notch.
Exile was a strong album considering the conditions it was recorded in and the condition they were in.
Keith and Mick Taylor together is like a textbook definition of chemistry.

[jhale667]

Mick Taylor is doing a set with Adler's Appetite in Riverside, CA on 5/15...

http://www.facebook.com/adlersappetite#!/event.php?eid=116778215017027&ref=mf

[FORD]

Mick Taylor is doing a set with Adler's Appetite in Riverside, CA on 5/15...

http://www.facebook.com/adlersappetite#!/event.php?eid=116778215017027&ref=mf

Even at the worst of Keith's addiction, he was still more coherent than Steve Adler. I hope Mick Taylor knows what he's getting into. :biggrin:

[ThrillsNSpills]

When I was a kid I had the 45 of Happy/All Down the Line . Needless to say, two great tracks but the interesting thing is that the mono All Down the Line had a different mix where the piano and the background vocals are higher in the mix.
There are a couple extra Taylor fills but during the verses he's buried somewhat under the piano.

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[FORD]

What I've never liked about that mix is that even Keith's rhythm part is buried under the piano. And that rhythm guitar IS that fucking song.

[Diamondjimi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK6KA4QILUc

Most Unholy job of restoration, boys. The Devil is once again proud of you.

Great tune, me likes!

[VAiN]

That is an awesome video... I think I'd fall over if VH pulled something like that off in my lifetime...

[FORD]

Can't believe they didn't include this song in the "new" releases. As far as demos go, it's pretty damn close to being finished as it was.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS2EvfFWCY8

[Blaze]

You negotiating home territory, ******ess?

[ThrillsNSpills]

Houston we have a problem

[chefcraig]

Yeah, no kidding. Looks like the meds got mixed up, or were taken with too much cough syrup. Yet again.

http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/MSN-Emoticons/MSN-Emoticon-crazy-016.gif (http://freesmileyface.net/Free-MSN-Emoticons-Smileys.html)

[Diamondjimi]

http://meds-to-go.org/images/meds.gif

[FORD]

Why ruin a good Stones thread with this horseshit? Satan's gonna be pissed.

Fuck it, let's get back to the Stones......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2TJ2z8y2hw

[Blaze]

It was not ruining the Stone's thread, but completing the picture.
Granted, it might be a bit harsh to some ears.
However, after watching Bent last night, I was reminded of how many certain aspects of the Stones are like a Nazi Regime.
The erasing, rewriting, and manufacturing of history leaving often in the wake dead, damaged, distorted and caged souls.
There is example after of example of the wakes and even examples of how the harsh corruption of deceit placed them on a meat hook.
Nevertheless, isn't that all old news when it comes to the recording industry history as it was known from certain times?

In a way, it became the Nazi and the deviant, perpetuating the very atrocities it experienced and witnessed,
All the while writing its deviancy as norm.


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[FORD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhTx3OsLj6g

[FORD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivxRoMcgisc

[FORD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bqp7nXumzw

[FORD]

Upon further investigation, it seems that this newly unearthed version of "All Down The Line" is NOT on the Exile Box Set after all, Which is a damn shame.

It IS the B-Side of the "Plundered My Soul" vinyl single, but last I heard, that was limited to 1000 copies, and isn't available on Itunes (for those of you who actually pay for lossy MP3s, which I'll never do)

And after hearing the whole "Soul Survivor" outtake, all I can say is...... Heroin... .what a helluva drug :biggrin:

[Mr Walker]

Leaving for work soon and I'm looking forward to being greeted by my new Exile Super Deluxe box set when I get home.

[Jagermeister]

Leaving for work soon and I'm looking forward to being greeted by my new Exile Super Deluxe box set when I get home.

Cool. Article in Rolling Stone on it this month. Have not read it yet though.

[ThrillsNSpills]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhTx3OsLj6g

the subtle fills Taylor puts in at around the 4:02 mark are too amazing.

As far as this being a rare version, the only thing I heard was a possible different vocal during one segment.

[FORD]

I think it's the video that's "rare" in that one. Though I doubt even that is an accurate statement, as I doubt the footage and music were actually combined in 1972.

So "rare footage from 1972, set to the official studio recording, in recent years with 21st century technology" would be more like it. But too long for You tube.

[FORD]

Good news for all you cheapskates and/or victims of the Chimp economic disaster out there....

If you really don't want to buy the Exile album for the 5th time, you CAN get a CD with just the bonus tracks at Target for $9.99

And considering the UMG remasters of the Stones catalog have met with "mixed" reviews, compared to the earlier Virgin reboot of the catalog, who could blame you if you did?

[FORD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZg4Ai3Mq1o

[FORD]

And after hearing the whole "Soul Survivor" outtake, all I can say is...... Heroin... .what a helluva drug :biggrin:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6plco2lPJ4

[FORD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3tng7H3qi0

[Mr Walker]

As the eight-year-old boy walked through the vast iron gates of Villa Nellcote on the Cote d’Azur in the South of France, the scene unfolded like a child’s fantasy.

There was a huge pool complete with diving board, a sprawling toy-filled sandpit and even a selection of miniature motorbikes parked alongside a mansion that housed a menagerie of dogs, cats and a rabbit.

Tugging the sleeve of his six-year-old brother, young Jake Weber could barely contain his excitement as he cried: ‘It’s just like a fairytale palace!’
'I knew what was going on': Eight-year-old Jake Weber sits with the Rolling Stones' guitars behind Mick Jagger at Villa Nellcote as he works on a track for Exile On Main Street

'I knew what was going on': Eight-year-old Jake Weber sits with the Rolling Stones' guitars behind Mick Jagger at Villa Nellcote as he works on a track for Exile On Main Street

But the Villa Nellcote, known locally for having been a Nazi headquarters during the war, was certainly no place for children.

No sooner had the heavy wooden doors to the mansion closed than one of the most famous men on the planet lurched forward.

Pausing to give Jake’s golden hair a half-hearted tousle, Rolling Stones guitarist Keith Richards knelt down and pulled the boy’s T-shirt off, revealing a package wrapped in plastic taped firmly to Jake’s bare stomach.

This, the boy learned, was to be Richards’s ‘wedding gift’ to bandmate Mick Jagger. Inside the package was half a kilo of cocaine.

Jake’s brother, Charley, also had half a kilo wrapped round his body. This would be for Richards’s own use.

This, the boy learned, was to be Richards’s ‘wedding gift’ to bandmate Mick Jagger. Inside the package was half a kilo of cocaine

Both consignments had been carefully prepared – and concealed on them by the boys’ father. It was, as Jake put it, ‘pretty outrageous even by the debauched standards of the Rolling Stones. To use kids as drug mules takes some doing’.

Tonight the full hedonistic extent of that summer at the 54-room Villa Nellcote will be laid bare when a new documentary, Stones In Exile, is broadcast on BBC1.

The film coincides with the re-release of the Stones’ legendary double album Exile On Main Street, which is considered by many to be the greatest rock and roll album.

Almost as legendary as the music – created in a makeshift basement studio that was so damp that the guitars constantly went out of tune – are the antics of the band and their colourful entourage: heroin-addled Richards and his girlfriend Anita Pallenberg; Mick Jagger and his new bride, the sultry Bianca; Charlie Watts; Bill Wyman and Mick Taylor.

At Nellcote, the Stones embarked on an orgy of partying surrounded by drug-pushers and legions of hangers-on, punctuated by occasional visits from celebrity friends like John Lennon and Yoko Ono. They submerged themselves in a bacchanalian haze of hash, cocaine, heroin and alcohol by day before retreating to their basement lair by night, to create classic tracks such as Tumbling Dice, Happy and Sweet Virginia.

But there was a still more extraordinary, and some might say disturbing, aspect to the dark fantasy playing out beneath the crystal chandeliers: along with the band members, their girlfriends and the groupies, there was an audience of vulnerable children who watched as the mayhem unfolded.

Today Jake Weber is 46 and a successful Hollywood actor. It is to his credit that he survived this particular journey to the wilder fringes of celebrity life – although, in his own way, he too would later become a victim of the culture of drugs and hedonism that was celebrated so recklessly during that summer with the Stones in 1971.

There had been something of the fairy tale in Jake’s own family background. His parents, who had married in 1964, had been regarded as one of Britain’s most beautiful couples, albeit with a dark, hidden secret.

His mother was Susan ‘Puss’ Coriat, the exquisite but emotionally fragile heiress to a large trust fund. Susan was the daughter of Priscilla Chrystal Frances Blundell Weigall, who inherited a fortune worth the equivalent of £120 million today, and Harold Coriat, a land agent for Priscilla’s first husband, Viscount Edward Curzon.

'I can remember the smells of Villa Nellcote, the roses in the garden, the sea foam when we went on the boat with Keith, the smoke and booze fumes that would hang in the air every morning when we would go downstairs'

The family’s wealth came from Priscilla’s grandfather John Maple, who transformed a modest furniture store on Tottenham Court Road in London into the world’s largest luxury furniture empire during the Victorian era.

Jake’s father was Tommy Weber, the son of a Danish aristocrat. Tommy’s grandfather was Reginald Evelyn Weber, a good friend of King George VI (they shared a love of stamp collecting) who built his fortune with the coffee, tea and spice importing firm Weber, Smith and Hoare.

Tommy was a socialite and racing-car enthusiast who was also a notorious gambler and drug supplier to the rich and infamous – including the Stones.

Puss became steadily more consumed by drug dependency and a thirst for spiritual fulfilment. She was being treated in a clinic in England when Tommy took Jake and his brother to France for Jagger’s May 1971 wedding – and stayed for five months.

Jake says: ‘I remember it vividly. I was eight years old but I think that is the age when you first start to have vivid recall. I can remember the smells of Villa Nellcote, the roses in the garden, the sea foam when we went on the boat with Keith, the smoke and booze fumes that would hang in the air every morning when we would go downstairs.’

The Stones had fled to the mansion near Cannes, which was being rented by Richards for £1,000 a week, to escape Britain’s top tax rate of 93 per cent.

Jake and his brother were given rooms at the very top of the mansion. They were not the only children there. Anita and Keith had brought their toddler son Marlon to the South of France and, according to Jake, there were other children who came and went.

Presented with such freedom, Jake is happy to admit that he enjoyed his weeks at the mansion, for the most part at least. ‘I can’t complain and say how terrible it was because I don’t remember it like that. We were in a castle with endless toys, sandy beaches, food and sweets.’

Jake and his new summertime playmates enjoyed the treats to the full.

‘The adults were very kind to us,’ he says. ‘I had a rabbit and no one could figure out how to lift it out of its cage properly until Keith came along one day and grabbed it by the ears. I remember going out with Keith on his motorboat and he’d play at being a pirate and pretend to board the yachts in the harbour. My brother and I were pageboys at Mick and Bianca’s wedding. Those are the happy memories.’

He describes Anita Pallenberg as kind and nurturing, even though she admits to being ‘wasted’ on heroin at the time. Anita, who spent the summer in a striking leopard-print bikini, was pregnant with someone’s child, but was not entirely clear about the father. Pallenberg, a friend of Jake’s mother, had slept with both Jagger and Richards that summer.

Jake recalls: ‘Anita always made sure we ate and were dressed well. I knew what was going on with the drugs and sex. You would have to be blind not to see it. There was dope and lots of cocaine and heroin. People would be wasted but no one was ever unkind to me and my brother.

If he survived Villa Nellcote, the wider consequences of the drug culture that surrounded him were inescapable. ‘Yes, there was a dark side too,’ he concedes

‘We were allowed to wander freely around. There was no such thing as “bed time” – you just took yourself off when you felt tired. The days were endlessly sunny. We had a series of chefs who would cook you anything you wanted. There would be piles of pastries alongside the bottles of wine for breakfast.

‘My brother and I never drank or did drugs. We were too young. We would dance around the room to Brown Sugar while everyone else got stoned.’

If he survived Villa Nellcote, the wider consequences of the drug culture that surrounded him were inescapable. ‘Yes, there was a dark side too,’ he concedes.

His handsome father, for example, preferred louche living to spending time with his boys. ‘My father didn’t know how to be a father,’ says Jake. ‘He would be off doing drugs or having sex. I did my own thing and was happy to sit and watch Mick and Keith create long into the night.’

Tommy had recently ended an affair with the actress Charlotte Rampling and had told his sons that their mother would join them at the villa, once she had completed her rehabilitation. Her experimentation with LSD had led to schizophrenia and a period of hospitalisation, including electroshock therapy.

Pallenberg and Puss had became friends at Bowden House, a rehab clinic in Harrow. They met in March 1971 when both checked in to Bowden, which at the time was dubbed ‘a drying-out paddock for the rich and famous’ by the Press. Both regularly left the clinic to party in London and, according to Tommy, Puss confessed she and Anita enjoyed a ‘brief but satisfying’ lesbian affair.

He later told his children that while he believed Puss was planning to travel to the villa to reconcile with him, she may also have been coming to rekindle her romance with Pallenberg. Whatever the motive, the eagerly awaited reunion would never take place.

On June 7, 1971, Richards received an urgent telegram from London and Tommy was left to break the news to his two sons that their mother, newly released from the clinic, had died. At first Jake was told it was an accident, but later he was to learn that she had taken her own life with an overdose of prescription pills. She was just 27.

Jake says: ‘When my brother and I were told of the death I remember us both breaking into pathetic sobs, and then for a couple of weeks I was in a haze of grief.

‘My father was not capable of looking after us on his own. But the group at the villa rallied round. We were surrounded by people who loved us and cared for us, even though they were out of their minds most of the time. That’s how we made it through. I don’t think they were bad people, it was just a different time, a different era.’

Neither of the boys attended the funeral, which was thought to be too distressing an occasion. Instead, they remained at the villa for the rest of the summer.

Today, almost 40 years on, Jake lives with his long-time partner, actress Liz Carey, and their four-year-old son Waylon in a sprawling home near the ocean in Malibu.

He has worked steadily as an actor in films such as The Pelican Brief, Meet Joe Black and Dawn Of The Dead and now stars opposite Patricia Arquette in the hit US drama Medium. For this is he grateful to his wealthy godfather, American businessman Peter van Gerbig, who had been best man at Tommy and Puss’s wedding and took Jake under his wing.

Van Gerbig not only paid for his education, he encouraged him to go to Juilliard, America’s top acting school. Jake was nearly 13 when he arrived in the States. The plan had been to bring his younger brother over too but, says Jake, van Gerbig had a new family of his own and bringing Charley over too ‘became too much’. The siblings would not see each other for years.

Charley remained with Tommy in England and did not fare so well. His father squandered every penny on drugs. In a book about the Webers, A Day In The Life, Charley told author Robert Greenfield: ‘I had to give Dad my last five quid so he could get a fix.’ Charley ended up living on friends’ couches and even endured a brief period on the streets before pulling his life together.

Jake says: ‘My brother had some very tough times. He was there one time when Dad overdosed on heroin. He suffered more than I did.’

Tommy Weber was repeatedly arrested and convicted for possession of heroin and cannabis as well as drink-driving. He ended up serving 11 months in prison.

In 1982, Jake saw his father for the first time in years. Tommy gave him a letter which read: ‘Jake, there is a very important secret to life. Work is much more interesting than play and if you are lucky enough to be able to make your work your play and your play pay, well, then you’re in clover.’

Jake says his relationship with his brother, so close at the villa, also suffered. ‘Once I moved to America we were in different worlds.’

In September 2006, after years of ill-health and a series of heart attacks, Tommy was diagnosed with a cancerous tumour on his liver.

His veins had collapsed through drug use and nurses were forced to inject pain edication into the soles of his feet. He died on September 21, 2006, aged 66. Charley still lives in England and works as a film editor.

Despite his exposure to the Stones’ rock-and-roll lifestyle, Jake says he has never been tempted by the excesses he witnessed during the Exile On Main Street period.

He says: ‘I think round parents often have square children. I enjoy a cocktail but that’s as far as it goes. I have my own family, my own home, and I treasure what I have built for myself.’

But the summer of 1971 remains with him in the sharpest and most colourful detail. He says: ‘I treasure my memories and of being a very small part of a moment in history.’

By chance, a couple of years ago Jake bumped into Mick Jagger in the garden of Hollywood’s Chateau Marmont hotel. Jake recalls: ‘I went up to him and told him I was Tommy Weber’s son, Jake. He looked at me for a while and said, “Oh right, that was a long time ago, wasn’t it?”

‘He was with some other people so I excused myself and went back to my table. That was that.’

Jagger later left the hotel without pausing to say goodbye.

‘He’s moved on ... and so have I,’ says Jake.

[Jagermeister]

You expended all your energy on that for the day. :baaa:

I had several thinks pending today for you but no since posting the now cause you shot your wad right there. :(

[Mr Walker]

You expended all your energy on that for the day. :baaa:

I had several thinks pending today for you but no since posting the now cause you shot your wad right there. :(

This makes no sense... what the hell is wrong with you?

[Jagermeister]

This makes no sense... what the hell is wrong with you?

I was joking!

[chefcraig]

As the eight-year-old boy walked through the vast iron gates of Villa Nellcote on the Cote d’Azur in the South of France, the scene unfolded like a child’s fantasy...'I knew what was going on': Eight-year-old Jake Weber sits with the Rolling Stones' guitars behind Mick Jagger at Villa Nellcote as he works on a track for Exile On Main Street...

Thanks for posting that. Weber was interviewed for Robert Greenfield's fascinating book Exile on Main Street: A Season in Hell with the Rolling Stones , and his insights (made as an adult) are truly revealing. While Green field may have been present for some of the recording sessions, the bulk of his material stems from an interview he conducted with Keef during the period (he worked for Rolling Stone as the bureau chief in England), and the memories of a curious band of hangers-on. A great portion of this book might be total horseshit, but it still is compelling reading and is the best book on the subject that I've read. Highly recommended.

Exile on Main Street: A Season in Hell with the Rolling Stones (http://www.amazon.com/Exile-Main-Street-Season-Rolling/dp/030681563X/ref=pd_cp_b_2)


http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/4482/exileonmainstm.jpg (http://img686.imageshack.us/i/exileonmainstm.jpg/)

[Mr Walker]

Exile on Main Street: A Season in Hell with the Rolling Stones (http://www.amazon.com/Exile-Main-Street-Season-Rolling/dp/030681563X/ref=pd_cp_b_2)


http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/4482/exileonmainstm.jpg (http://img686.imageshack.us/i/exileonmainstm.jpg/)

I've been meaning to grab this, but I keep forgetting about it... I trust you, but the reviews at Amazon are pretty poor... so I just put a hold request at the local library and I'll give it a read.

Did you read 'S.T.P.: A Journey Through America With The Rolling Stones' by the same author?

I've enjoyed reading books on the Stones in the past... the one's I can remember off the top of my head are the one by Stanley Booth, Wyman's 'Stone Alone' and Keith's biography by Victor Bockris... I read about ten pages of Christopher Anderson's Jagger biography and lost interest.

[chefcraig]

I've been meaning to grab this, but I keep forgetting about it... I trust you, but the reviews at Amazon are pretty poor... so I just put a hold request at the local library and I'll give it a read.

Did you read 'S.T.P.: A Journey Through America With The Rolling Stones' by the same author?

I've enjoyed reading books on the Stones in the past... the one's I can remember off the top of my head are the one by Stanley Booth, Wyman's 'Stone Alone' and Keith's biography by Victor Bockris... I read about ten pages of Christopher Anderson's Jagger biography and lost interest.

Yes, it really is a library type rental, because even in paperback, it hardly comes across as a proper reference work. It's more attuned to the "dirt" of what supposedly took place, and in that regard it works. The problem with many of these Stones books (not including the ones you mentioned) is they seem to trade on the sordid tales, rather than any cold hard facts. As such, they can be entertaining, yet you really do not learn all that much. I'm still looking for a copy of "S.T.P...", perhaps I'll have someone order a copy for our building.

[Catfish]

Great 'new' song! How'd they leave that off ANY record???

Is that Mick going falsetto in the chorus???

And stop fucking up a great thread with nonsense, Hagarmeister!

[Mr Walker]

Just picked up 'S.T.P.' from Amazon, reviews were much better so I didn't mind dropping the money.
I'm gonna pick this up next time I go to Barnes And Noble...

What Would Keith Richards Do?: Daily Affirmations from a Rock and Roll Survivor (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003GAN3O6/ref=s9_simh_gw_p14_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=18HBKXC5XTEHTQGWJ7FR&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846)

[Mr Walker]

On the whole, I thought the 10 bonus tracks were a bit underwhelming.

[Igosplut]

Here ya go Chef, 13 of 'em all used from 9.83 and up...

http://usedmarketplace.borders.com/booksearch?isbn=0306811995

[Catfish]

I've been meaning to grab this, but I keep forgetting about it... I trust you, but the reviews at Amazon are pretty poor... so I just put a hold request at the local library and I'll give it a read.

Did you read 'S.T.P.: A Journey Through America With The Rolling Stones' by the same author?

I've enjoyed reading books on the Stones in the past... the one's I can remember off the top of my head are the one by Stanley Booth, Wyman's 'Stone Alone' and Keith's biography by Victor Bockris... I read about ten pages of Christopher Anderson's Jagger biography and lost interest.

Did you ever read 'Old Gods Almost Dead', Mr Walker? Or 'Nankering with the Rolling Stones'? Both excellent!

[chefcraig]

Here ya go Chef, 13 of 'em all used from 9.83 and up...

http://usedmarketplace.borders.com/booksearch?isbn=0306811995

I appreciate it friend, as the woman in charge of the ordering department is getting fairly fed up with my constant requests for the music section!

[Mr Walker]

Did you ever read 'Old Gods Almost Dead', Mr Walker? Or 'Nankering with the Rolling Stones'? Both excellent!

No, I didn't read those. I thought of another one I read... it was a paperback... I think it was called 'Symphony For The Devil'.

[Mr Walker]

On the whole, I thought the 10 bonus tracks were a bit underwhelming.

Don't hold me to this quote... maybe it was just the way that the opening track 'Pass The Wine' put me off. Sounds like 2010 Stones with none of that '72 Exile vibe. I do hear the vibe in 'Plundered My Soul', 'I'm Not Signifying' and 'So Divine'.

[twonabomber]

Did you ever read 'Old Gods Almost Dead', Mr Walker? Or 'Nankering with the Rolling Stones'? Both excellent!

i didn't think Old Gods was that great. it seemed like a collection of stories that i had read elsewhere in the past. i didn't find much i hadn't read before in it.

Stone Alone was good, i also have Wyman's Rolling With The Stones but i didn't get that far into it. same with According To The Rolling Stones, it sat on my table for more than a year until i packed to move.


Just picked up 'S.T.P.' from Amazon, reviews were much better so I didn't mind dropping the money.
I'm gonna pick this up next time I go to Barnes And Noble...

What Would Keith Richards Do?: Daily Affirmations from a Rock and Roll Survivor (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003GAN3O6/ref=s9_simh_gw_p14_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=18HBKXC5XTEHTQGWJ7FR&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846)

if you see Stone Me, which is a collection of Keef quotes, don't pay full price for it. i wasted a gift card on that one.

[Catfish]

Don't hold me to this quote... maybe it was just the way that the opening track 'Pass The Wine' put me off. Sounds like 2010 Stones with none of that '72 Exile vibe. I do hear the vibe in 'Plundered My Soul', 'I'm Not Signifying' and 'So Divine'.

This guy quoted himself! What a dick move!

[Catfish]

i didn't think Old Gods was that great. it seemed like a collection of stories that i had read elsewhere in the past. i didn't find much i hadn't read before in it.

Das true.

Nankering with the Rolling Stones was something I found quite unique. Written by a roommate of the guys when a bunch of them lived in their Chelsea flat. Great stories. Sick stories.

[Mr Walker]

This guy quoted himself! What a dick move!

Fuck you!
You're not messing with Alex Van Halen here... I'll punch you right in your snot-box!

[Catfish]

Fuck you!
You're not messing with Alex Van Halen here... I'll punch you right in your snot-box!

How dare you!

Don't fuck this quality thread up with your nonsense!

And eat shit Gayermesiter for thanking Mr Walker!

[Jagermeister]

How dare you!

Don't fuck this quality thread up with your nonsense!

And eat shit Gayermesiter for thanking Mr Walker!


http://funnypics.free.fr/explorer/public/img/b/brassmonkeyfucktard.jpg

[FORD]

Matt Lauer is such a fucking douchebag....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOpU3Mv2u1Q

[FORD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhFWH9OUt-o

Decent cover. And isn't that Chuck Leavell on keys? (He should know the song by now.)

[Jagermeister]

Hmmm.

The Glee: Showstoppers soundtrack exceeded expectations by selling 136,000 copies in its debut week, enough to score the Number One slot on this week's Billboard 200. The Showstoppers soundtrack, featuring songs from the second half of Glee's first season, marks the second consecutive Glee release to top the charts, following "The Power of Madonna" episode's Number One debut last month.

The Rolling Stones' Exile in Main Street reissue came in at Number Two, selling 76,000 copies but dashing the Stones' hopes of coming in at Number One on the U.S. charts for the first time since 1981. (The Stones' Exile reissue did top the U.K. album charts this week, making it their first U.K. Number One since 1994.) The group's Target-only Exile On Main Street: Rarities Edition sold 15,000 copies, enough to come in at Number 27.

The Black Keys enjoyed their best-ever chart: their eighth album, Brothers, entered the Billboard 200 at Number Three with 73,000 copies sold, vastly improving on the 29,000 copies moved for 2008's Attack and Release. Three more debuts managed to infiltrate the Top Ten: Nas and Damian Marley's Distant Relatives at Number Five, Band of Horses' Infinite Arms at Number Seven and LCD Soundsystem's This Is Happening at Number 10.

[Nitro Express]

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[Nitro Express]

Charley Watts always seemed to be the most grounded of the Stones. He said the time in France was difficult for him because he missed England and all the recording took place at Keith's house and he lived in another location in France and had to stay at Keith's to get the recording done. I think some people there didn't want to be there and the goal was making an album but you had to deal with drug addicts to get things done. Maybe that was the success of the Stones. There seemed to be some level headed people in the band to balance the craziness.

[Nitro Express]

Then of course the people writing these books want to write dirt and debauchery because that is what sells. If the band was that bad they all would be dead and no music would be produced. The people with no responsibility and the hanger ons and loiters in the house probably had more to do with the craziness than the band itself. I'm sure the basement were the band worked might have been saner than what was going on upstairs and maybe those kids at night hung down there because that is where they felt the safest even though it was loud as hell.

[FORD]

Charlie missed a few sessions back in those days, but they had Jimmy Miller producing, and he wasn't a bad drummer himself. Keith is on record though, saying that if Charlie ever left the Stones, it's over. Which might have a lot to do with why the Stones tour next year will probably be their last. Reportedly Charlie is tired of the 2 year world megatouring thing. Can't blame the guy - he's the oldest guy in the band. Think he's 70 now, at least.

All good things must come to an end, I guess. And 50 years is a good run for anybody. Bring Mick Taylor & Bill Wyman back and do this thing right. And know that somewhere Brian Jones, Ian Stewart, and Billy Preston are cheering you on. Nicky Hopkins and Jimmy Miller too for that matter. Even Allen Klein, though he's only doing so for his own financial gain. (Does he have to split his royalties with Satan now?)

[Nitro Express]

Charlie has a unique drumming style and he's one of my favorite drummers. Our band opens the first set with Rocks Off . You don't appreciate The Stones until you try and copy them. Lot's of little twists and turns in their music which makes it interesting. Charlie laid down the beat but always had some interesting extra stuff going one here and there. If they got another drummer that would be gone and it wold just be 1234. Keith is right on that.

[Nitro Express]

I remember seeing the Rolling Stones in 1981. We thought we better see them now because someone is going to die or they are just going to call it quits because they are too old. Now it's 2010 and they are still a major act.