The Randy Rhoads Legacy

[jhale667]

According to his siblings, Kathy and Kelly

It's too long to repost the whole thing here, but there's a two-part article that popped up on Gibson.com, Pt II that's pretty cool, and has some (new-ish) VH content. Of particular interest is Kelly's assertion as to the rumored EVH/Rhoads "competition" - there was none. There was only mutual respect. Also confirmed is something I've always heard from those in the know, they both looked up to George Lynch.

The Gibson Interview: The Randy Rhoads Family
by Michael Wright

http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/Features/randy-rhoads-family-1011/



On March 19, 1982, a horrible tragedy struck the rock world. Randy Rhoads, the trail- (and fret!) blazing guitarist for Ozzy Osbourne, died in an airplane crash in Leesburg, Florida. For the music world, it was the loss of a unique and virtuosic talent. For the Rhoads family in North Hollywood, California, the loss was much more personal. Randy was the baby of the family: beloved son to his mother Delores (serenaded as “Dee” on the Blizzard of Ozz album) and kid brother to elder brother Kelly and sister Kathy.

The Rhoads family were — and are — a tight-knit bunch. For the past 28 years, even as they have thrived with the family music school, Kelly’s own musical pursuits and Kathy’s successful vineyard, they have always dedicated time, attention and love to Randy’s legacy. With Gibson paying tribute to Randy Rhoads this week with the release of the Randy Rhoads Les Paul Custom, Gibson.com sat down with Kelly and Kathy to talk about Randy’s life and that ever-growing legacy.

What was the age separation between the three of you?

Kelly: I am the eldest and Kathy is the middle child and Randy was the baby.

What was your household like growing up? I presume it was very musical.

Both: Yes, it was.

Kathy: We had no stereo, believe it or not.

Kelly: We didn’t have a record player because my mom wouldn’t buy us one.

Kathy: Everybody played their own music around our house.

Kelly: We had to do our own; we were our own record player.


You can read the rest of the background stuff there, but here's one cool VH (and Lynch)-relevant bit, picked up right around the VH/Quiet Riot pre-signing mid-70s club era:

Were they a pretty good band right from the start, or did it take a little bit of work to sort of move it into place? Or was it like lightning in a bottle right away?

Kelly: Certainly not that. They got better. It’s just that that was a power pop band. Even when they got management, they got molded into form. What the management wanted was to create another Sweet. They wanted another band like The Sweet, and Randy and Kelly, especially when Randy and I played together, we were into hard, heavy rock like Sabbath type of stuff. Ironically, Randy didn’t like Black Sabbath at all. I was the Sabbath fan. In fact, that was the first question I asked him after his first audition. "Did you see those letters on his hand that say ‘OZZY’?" And Randy goes, "Yeah!" I said, "Did you crack up?" And Randy goes, "Yeah!" He didn’t like Sabbath, but I did.

Was he doing stuff – like with finger-tapping – before Van Halen came out?

Kelly: Yeah.

Was it a little disappointing for him to have someone else kind of...

Kelly: No. And that’s something I’m glad you brought up. A lot of people try to invent this competition. Randy thought Eddie was a good player. He thought he was really good, and he liked him. He wasn’t like in any kind of competition or contest with him at all.

Kathy: He always thought Eddie had his own style, and Randy thought he had his own style, and he didn’t think it was fair to compare them because he thought they were different and unique within themselves.

Kelly: If you asked Randy back then who the hot guitar player in L.A. was, he wouldn’t have said himself or Eddie. He would have said George Lynch. Randy really looked up to him. He thought he had a tremendous amount of talent.

George Lynch is a heck of a player. Yeah, that’s true – I had forgotten he was part of that scene as well.

Kelly: Randy really liked him, and if you asked Randy what guitar player in this town is really hot, the first thing he would say was George Lynch. When he left to go play with Ozzy, George Lynch took over his students at Musonia.



If anything can be said of Rhoads' legacy, it is that even today he is held in nearly if-not equal reverence as Edward Van Halen among guitarists despite a fraction of the recorded output, and that ain't a bad thing. :baaa:

http://www.gibson.com/Files/aaFeaturesImages2010/Randy-Rhoads_approved.jpg

[GAR]

Gibson's like 30 years late coming to the guitar party here in Los Angeles.. and now they're promoting another companies' endorsees?

[ELVIS]

I suppose this is news to someone...:)

[jhale667]

I suppose this is news to someone...:)

Was there supposed to be a "discuss (preferably someone/thing other than GAyR)"blurb literally stated at the bottom of the post, or wasn't it just implied anyway...

I mean, I guess that almost counts, but c'mon! :biggrin:

[ThrillsNSpills]

Why did Randy bone Sharon?


he needed the money

OH !


http://i.ytimg.com/vi/BWzI_Wn0ZwM/hqdefault.jpg

[jhale667]

See, Thrills of a few things we can be certain. Rhoads ruled, and there will always be guitars, and music, and comedy. Rhoads ruling isn't particularly funny, just a great achievement which shows not always at the same time.

[GAR]

At some point, you just realize with Rhoads there's just tragedy everywhere you look, I gave up the Randy banner back in '86, and got reimmersed a short time again about a year later when the Live album came out.

It's tragic: that the Osbournes weren't on that plane.
It's tragic: to see Sharon concede she forced him to a screw.
It's tragic: reading what Sarzo said about how they abused Randy.
It's tragic: a guy spends half a lifetime developing and expanding an original style only to never have benefited of it.
It's tragic: to see a 16-year-old play riffs to Over The Mountain and say "isn't Zakk's style is awesome?"
It's tragic: to hear Delores lives in the same house all these years, where's all the millions in royalties?

It's just hard to stomach all this. Wasn't someone gonna set the ugly record straight in a full-scale movie?

It's so upsetting, nobody really wants to talk about it when Randys' work deserves a little fair admiration aside from the surrounding issues even in this late date.

[jhale667]

Everywhere you look, I guess so. Especially if the 16-year old you're referring to is Gus G? (Oh, snap!) Peter Margolis' film may or may not ever see the light of day. Might or might it not be a tragedy if it did, supposedly that's the issue of contention since last I heard IIRC the music was licensed, the O.G. tracks not the new rhythm-section abortion remixes? Who knows?

[GAR]

Randy won't be forgotten, but the whole deal's a sad affair and for Gibson to try dipping their appendage in the RR legacy like this 30 years later, they can fuck off.

[FORD]

Not to mention the fact that Randy's Quiet Riot material remains unavailable (aside from that one disc mutation that DuBrow put out, which was only slightly less blasphemous than Sharon's butchery of Blizzard and Diary. At least THAT evil deed was finally undone.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv9X4UyePhk

[jhale667]

Not to mention the fact that Randy's Quiet Riot material remains unavailable (aside from that one disc mutation that DuBrow put out, which was only slightly less blasphemous than Sharon's butchery of Blizzard and Diary. At least THAT evil deed was finally undone.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv9X4UyePhk

Hmm... while there are certain levels of blasphemy it's true, I don't consider merely re-amping the original guitar tracks (via Carlos' favorite nearly-correct to Rhoads' Ozzy-era Marshalls apparently with his guitar-sound input - as opposed to just KD's , while keeping the original Rhoads guitar and band tracks) and re-doing some vocals on the same level as what Sharon did. But tend to agree in both cases they might not have bothered, since at least in the Ozzy case NO ONE was really ever interested in hearing it.

[GAR]

With media consolidation shrinkng all the time, and all radio programming basically done in NYC you'd have to have been under a rock the last 5 years to not have heard enough Ozzy to not hold any interest in hearing any more for decades.

Driving across country it's almost like the same contiguous radio station pulsing the same playlist, nearly everyday in your car. I could do well with not having to hear any more Ozzy for the rest of my life.

[Diamondjimi]

We could do well without ever seeing you on these boards. ever again! :Loser:

[jhale667]

Live Solo video from a Quiet Riot show at the Starwood in 1979...

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[78/84 guy]

When the hell are the reissue's and dvd collection they were talking about coming out ??

[jhale667]

When the hell are the reissue's and dvd collection they were talking about coming out ??

Hmm...you'd think if it was going to be out in time for holiday shopping there'd be some media about it...kinda sounded like it originally from Ozzy's Twitter and Black-Sabbath.com

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/reviewpics/ozzytweet.jpg

That's from January...so if it's gonna be "this year", Ozzy? Hurry. Up. :biggrin:

[jhale667]

Apparently the restored reissues have been delayed until 2011 but it seems they HAVE leaked a couple of pics from the DVD footage...

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z89/themetalden2007/CaptureNEWrhoads.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z89/themetalden2007/CaptureNEWrhoads2.jpg

http://themetalden.com/index.php?p=17074

Weird thing...those pics are clearly from the DOAM tour since you can see the castle set...thought the footage came from the BOO tour? :umm: Ah, who cares, if it's live Rhoads footage we've never seen!! :killer:

[Jagermeister]

Damn I wish they would release this for Christmas. ( < That's a religious holiday jhale where people give presents to each other).

I hope 2011 doesn't change to 2012 or never...

[jhale667]

( < That's a religious holiday jhale where people give presents to each other).



Really? Never heard of it. :hee:

[Jagermeister]

This was on Blabbermouth today. It's kinda hard to watch cause Zloz is such a fart head.


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[Diamondjimi]

Apparently the restored reissues have been delayed until 2011 but it seems they HAVE leaked a couple of pics from the DVD footage...

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z89/themetalden2007/CaptureNEWrhoads.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z89/themetalden2007/CaptureNEWrhoads2.jpg

http://themetalden.com/index.php?p=17074

Weird thing...those pics are clearly from the DOAM tour since you can see the castle set...thought the footage came from the BOO tour? :umm: Ah, who cares, if it's live Rhoads footage we've never seen!! :killer:

Sweet mother of fuck!!!

AWESOME!!!

[Diamondjimi]

This was on Blabbermouth today. It's kinda hard to watch cause Zloz is such a fart head.


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Zloz, is a pretty cool guy. He's simply (in his mind, a rock star with a camera)

[78/84 guy]

Sweet mother of fuck!!!

AWESOME!!!

Agreed !!! Release that fucker !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Diamondjimi]

The truth behind the new stills of Randy footage... Click... (http://www.ultimaterhoads.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5058)

[jhale667]

The truth behind the new stills of Randy footage... Click... (http://www.ultimaterhoads.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5058)

Wow! Huge bummer if that footage doesn't surface. :(

[Diamondjimi]

Big time....

[sadaist]

If anything can be said of Rhoads' legacy, it is that even today he is held in nearly if-not equal reverence as Edward Van Halen among guitarists despite a fraction of the recorded output, and that ain't a bad thing.



I don't mean this to be disrespectful to Randy, his family, fans or friends...but him dying when he did may have been one of the best things to happen to Eddie Van Halen. I've thought this for many, many years now.

To me, EVH is the greatest ever. But what if?

[ashstralia]

big call man. i think had he lived there would've been room for both of 'em. completely different sounds.
and ozzy would've flamed out anyway.

[jhale667]

I don't mean this to be disrespectful to Randy, his family, fans or friends...but him dying when he did may have been one of the best things to happen to Eddie Van Halen. I've thought this for many, many years now.

To me, EVH is the greatest ever. But what if?


I think Randy would have done as everyone claims he was planning, and stopped touring at least for a bit. Probably would've gotten his degree and come up with something that would have completely blown our minds. I don't think he would have completely eclipsed EVH, but definitely might have diminished his stature somewhat. However, I don't think Yngwie would have been considered nearly as revolutionary, or have gained as much prominence as he did, since Randy was his true precursor in the "Neoclassical Shred" realm more so than Uli Roth or Ritchie Blackmore IMO.

[indeedido]

Who is Randy Rhoads? Is that Kelle's brother?

[Jagermeister]

Zloz, is a pretty cool guy. He's simply (in his mind, a rock star with a camera)

His wife is hot!!:biggrin:

[Jagermeister]

http://www.ilmoentertainment.com/concert/ozzy-osbourne-circa-1981-diary-madman

[78/84 guy]

I'm lost. Didn't Ozzy say he had live footage he was going too release ?? Even if these photo's are not from it.

[jhale667]

I'm lost. Didn't Ozzy say he had live footage he was going too release ?? Even if these photo's are not from it.

Supposedly...guess we'll see...

[jhale667]

Rhoads' 54th Birthday BUMP... Happy Birthday Mr. Rhoads... RIP.

http://www.guitarsite.com/news/images/artists/RandyRhoads_metal.jpg

[SunisinuS]

Randall William "Randy" Rhoads: Thanks for your serious attention to your craft. You have been missed.

[78/84 guy]

What a waste !! 54 just sounds like your'e getting started. Think of all the time he's missed. RIP

[jhale667]

Just because. :killer:

http://www.gear-vault.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/marshall-1959rr-randyrhoads-guitar-amplifier-jmp.jpg

http://www.gear-vault.com/marshall-1959rr-randy-rhoads-guitar-amp-review/

Marshall 1959RR Randy Rhoads Guitar Amplifier Review
December 13, 2010 by Ian Fraser

THE HOT-RODDED Marshall phenomenon thаt ѕtаrtеd іn thе Eighties саn bе attributed mainly tο two players: Eddie Van Halen аnd Randy Rhoads. Ironically, Eddie’s original amp wasn’t modified аt аll, whіlе thе modifications tο Randy’s amps wеrе long rumored hut never confirmed. Bесаυѕе Randy’s amps wеrе returned tο hіѕ family аnd locked tip іn a vault аftеr hіѕ death іn 1982, details οf thе modifications remained a mystery until recently.

Working wіth thе аѕѕіѕtаnсе οf Randy’s mother Delores аnd brother Kelle, Marshall finally gained access tο Rhoads’ legendary white Marshall amp head. Marshall investigated еνеrу minute detail, including thе cascaded input modification thаt wаѕ performed аt thе Marshall factory іn 1980 whеn Rhoads custom-ordered two white Marshall stacks. Aѕ a result Marshall јυѕt released thе limited-edition 1959RR Randy Rhoads Signature Series Super Lead 100-Watt head, аn exact duplicate οf thе 1980 Marshall JMP 1959 Super Lead MKII 100-watt head thаt Randy used onstage wіth Ozzy аnd οn thе recordings οf Blizzard οf Ozz аnd Diary οf a Madman.
FEATURES

ALTHOUGH MARSHALL HAD bееn mаkіng amps wіth master volume controls ѕіnсе 1975, Rhoads preferred thе original Non-Master 100-watt 1959 Super Lead model wіth four inputs, whісh Marshall mаdе until 1981, whеn іt wаѕ replaced bу thе 1959 JCM800. Thе 1959RR іѕ a two-channel 100-watt head powered bу a quartet οf EL34 tubes (јυѕt lіkе Randy’s U.K.-built original) wіth volume controls fοr each channel аnd a single set οf presence, treble, mid аnd bass controls shared bу both channels.

Thе modification cascades both halves οf thе first ECC83 tube (a.k.a., 12AX7) іn thе preamp circuit, feeding thе output frοm thе first stage іntο thе second stage’s input instead οf using each half separately аѕ аn input buffer fοr each channel. Thіѕ allows thе volume I knob tο function lіkе a master volume whіlе thе volume II knob operates lіkе gain control whеn a guitar іѕ plugged іntο thе channel II inputs, producing much more preamp gain аnd saturated distortion thаn a stock 1959 Super Lead head. If уου prefer thе stock Super Lead sound, plug іntο thе channel I inputs, whісh aren’t affected bу thе cascade modification.

Lіkе аn original 1959 Super Lead head, thе 1959RR’s rear panel іѕ аbουt аѕ sparse аt іt gets. Thеrе аrе two speaker output jacks, аn output impedance selector switch wіth 4-, 8- аnd 16-ohm settings аnd a mains selector switch thаt lets уου select 120 volts (U.S.) οr 220 volts (U.K., Europe) input voltage.

Wіth іtѕ white “elephant” vinyl covering, black Marshall logo, white piping аnd black corner protectors, thе 1959RR looks аlmοѕt identical tο Randy’s original amp аѕ well. Thе οnlу details missing аrе thе ring frοm a саn οf Coke thаt Randy set οn thе amp, a few stray pieces οf duct tape аnd general wear аnd tear.
PERFORMANCE

RANDY’S ORIGINAL MARSHALL 4×12 cabinets wеrе loaded wіth 100-watt Altec Lansing 417-8H speakers, whісh аrе nο longer mаdе аnd аrе very hard tο find. Instead, I tested thе 1959RR through a Marshall 4×12 loaded wіth G12T75 speakers, whісh provides similar resistance tο speaker distortion аnd retains tight, focused sound аt high volume levels. I аlѕο brοkе out mу original 1981 MXR Distortion+ аnd vintage Seventies Crу Baby wah pedal tο duplicate thе primary tone-shaping elements οf Randy’s custom pedal board. Test guitars included a Les Paul Custom wіth stock Gibson humbuckers аnd a Seventies Ibanez Rocket Roll Sr. wіth vintage DiMarzio Super Distortion humbuckers.

Lіkе mοѕt non-master 100-watt Marshalls, thе 1959RR head іѕ very loud, even аt thе lowest possible volume setting. Channel II іѕ especially over thе top, аnd bу thе time уου dial іn thе sweet spot, around 6, іtѕ loud enough tο kіll small birds, thе elderly аnd sensitive squirrels. Unless уου’re playing thе Forum, уου’ll need аn attenuator lіkе thе THD Hot Plate tο еnјοу thіѕ amp аt more-civilized volume levels.

I achieved thе mοѕt ассυrаtе duplications οf Randy’s Blizzard rhythm tones οn channel II wіth both volume controls dialed tο 6, thе bass turned down, thе midrange cranked tip аnd thе treble аnd presence tweaked аbουt midway tο provide thе rіght amount οf sizzle. Thе outstanding manual, writ- ten bу GW contributor Nick Bowcott, shows a similar setting thаt Randy apparently preferred.

Randy’s Diary lead tones emerged both through channel I using a combination οf thе Distortion+ аnd wah pedals tο duplicate hіѕ boxy midrange аnd through channel II using јυѕt thе wah. Thе cascaded gain mod produces lively “crushed glass” distortion wіth sparkling treble harmonics—аn elusive bυt highly desirable classic Marshall tone. Thе Distortion+ really isn’t necessary οn thе channel II inputs аѕ thе cascade mod provides аll thе gain аnd gnarly crunch уου сουld want fοr classic Eighties metal tones.
THE BOTTOM LINE

LIKE MARSHALL’S OTHER signature series amps, thе 1959RR isn’t cheap, hut іn thіѕ day аnd age handwired quality аnd premium vintage-style раrtѕ don’t come cheap. If уου’re a Randy Rhoads fan аnd want tο duplicate hіѕ tone tο thе closest detail, thе 1959RR іѕ аn essential рυrсhаѕе (sorry wе саn’t hеlр уου wіth those Altec speakers, though). Thе amp іѕ аlѕο grеаt fοr anyone whο саn afford thе bіg bucks аnd wаntѕ аn amp thаt саn deliver lively, “Plexi”-style crunch аnd aggressive Eighties Marshall crush іn thе same package. Source: marshallamps.com

:guitar:

[Seshmeister]

I was kind of surprised Delores is still going.

Just looked it up and she will be 91 in March.

[jhale667]

I was kind of surprised Delores is still going.

Just looked it up and she will be 91 in March.

Yeah, there's two more parts to that Zloz Hour interview where they mention she was the first female to be allowed first-chair status in the UCLA band...very cool quote about someone saying to her "Women can't play first chair" and Delores responding "Women couldn't vote in 1919, but they could in 1920..." sounds like she's a pistol... :D

[Jagermeister]

Very interesting. The statement about these being loud reminds me of an interview Sarzo did where he said Randy played very loud and that's was part of the sound he had.

So how much will one of these cost?

[jhale667]

Just found one on Ebay for $2500...

[indeedido]

I'd like to have one, but it would probably be cheaper to pick up a four holer 1959 JMP and have the "one wire" mod done to it, pretty simple I've read. Still I would like to have the RR model. :baaa:

[Jagermeister]

Just found one on Ebay for $2500...

Damn! I guess they will hold there resale value though huh.

[jhale667]

I'd like to have one, but it would probably be cheaper to pick up a four holer 1959 JMP and have the "one wire" mod done to it, pretty simple I've read. Still I would like to have the RR model. :baaa:

I'd like one also...but you're right; would probably be cheaper to mod a reissue 1959 or just have a modded-Plexi Metro clone made to spec...:umm:

[Jagermeister]

Holy shit. New in the box. Um no thanks.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Marshall-1959RR-Randy-Rhoads-100w-head-NEW-BOX-/160518783153?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255faa40b1

[Jagermeister]

Hmm. It will be interesting to see what this one sells for.


http://cgi.ebay.com/Marshall-1959RR-Randy-Rhoads-100w-head-NEW-BOX-/220710510525?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33635f1fbd

[Seshmeister]

Holy shit. New in the box. Um no thanks.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Marshall-1959RR-Randy-Rhoads-100w-head-NEW-BOX-/160518783153?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255faa40b1

For that money you should get Randy in the box too.

[jhale667]

This just in...according to one of the Facebook Rhoads pages loosely-affiliated with Rhoads.tk - the family was very disappointed in the first cut of the documentary Peter Margolis showed them, and the project may end up getting shelved. Tragic if true; someone needs to tell this guy's story. :(

[Seshmeister]

Is the story that interesting?

[jhale667]

Is the story that interesting?

I think so...(but then I've heard more than the usual stories). I think people would be surprised at how quick-witted and mischievous he was, how he had as Dubrow described, a "twisted" sense of humor, and I think more background about the QR years and sharing club bills with VH would be interesting.

[78/84 guy]

Ozzy where the fuck is our dvd of Randy and remastered cd's ????

[ELVIS]

Check this out...



Nice HD camera...


:elvis:

[ELVIS]

Mr Crowley




:killer:

[ELVIS]

Guitar and drum solo...




:elvis:

[ELVIS]

I don't care what anyone says, Ozzy still has it and he's kicking ass this tour!

BTW, Scream is still a very good album with killer vocals...


:elvis:

[Seshmeister]

Drum Assolo?

I've known a few over the years... :)

[kwame k]

Watch it fucker:lmao:

[Hardrock69]

Ozzy played here Wednesday night. Was happy to be home instead of at the venue listening to him.

Was REALLY glad not to be contributing any cash to that fucking cunt of a wife of his.

[Seshmeister]

I think I'm Ozzied out.

For a few years the first 3 Ozzy albums were my favourite of any.

I just don't care any more. Looking at the boots it seems that Ozzy may have got his voice vaguely in tune now and the band seems to have a bit more about it but it's just been far too many years of mediocrity.

Randy Rhoads was in the band 3 years, Jake E Lee 5 years and Zack Wylde 23 years.

The new Ozzy tour may well be the best in 15 years, it even has a few deep cuts but for me it's too little too late. Not sure about 7 Sabbath covers either.

The final straw is that he only plays festivals here these days anyway.

[Seshmeister]

I guess as a classic rock fan it's all a compromise these days but Ozzy is so far from this level at this point...

It's almost fucking laughable. We are expected to pay 10 times as much now for something hugely inferior to what we were getting 26 years ago.

[ELVIS]

Well, the holloween show outdoors in New Orleans was well worth the $60 tickets and Ozzy himself was particularly impressive...

[Seshmeister]

[Seshmeister]

Well, the holloween show outdoors in New Orleans was well worth the $60 tickets and Ozzy himself was particularly impressive...

I would pay $60 to see Ozzy but recently here it's been 3 times that in a package with some thrash band nu metal crap in a field.

The new tour looks better than the last which was 3/4s Zack doing RR songs by the look of it.

I'm just pointing out again the absolute dearth of good material that has come out of the ZW years, it's shameful.

As for the new album, I listened to it a couple of times on a hotel entertainment system a few months back and was not convinced. I'm also troubled by the fact that Ozzy albums are now an option on hotel room audio systems but that is a separate issue... :)

[ELVIS]

~Ha!~

I think you need to purchase the album and give it another go...