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  • Jagermeister
    Full Member Status

    • Apr 2010
    • 4510

    Jim Morrison to Be Pardoned for Indecent Exposure



    The Doors' Jim Morrison will get a posthumous pardon Thursday for an indecent exposure conviction in Florida that resulted when the late singer pulled what a bandmate called "a mind trip on the audience, and they totally fell for it."



    Gov. Charlie Crist on Wednesday got a commitment for the second of two votes needed from other members of the state's Board of Executive Clemency to approve the pardon.



    Morrison was appealing the conviction when he was found dead in a Paris bathtub in 1971. The meeting Thursday comes a day after the singer would have turned 67.



    Jim Morrison May Be Pardoned for 1969 Indecent Exposure



    Crist can't issue a pardon on his own. He and the three-member Cabinet serve as the Clemency Board. Approval is required by the governor and at least two other members.



    Chief Financial Officer Alex Sink, who was previously undecided, said Wednesday that she would vote for the pardon, said Sink spokesman Kevin Cate. She joined Agriculture Commissioner Charles Bronson who previously declared his support for the idea. Only Attorney General Bill McCollum remains uncommitted. All are leaving office Jan. 4.



    The did-he-or-didn't-he debate has been revived by Crist's interest in the case. The surviving band members say a drunken Morrison teased the Miami crowd, but never exposed himself. "It never actually happened. It was mass hypnosis," said Ray Manzarek, The Doors' keyboard player.



    Manzarek and guitarist Robby Krieger said Morrison's behavior was influenced by an acting troupe that disrobed during plays. "He was just doing a mind trip - as they would say - a mind trip on the audience and they totally fell for it," Manzarek said.



    Manzarek said Morrison was far drunker than usual, to the point where they questioned whether he should go on stage. "It was like, 'Oh my goodness, Jim, are you sure you can perform?' 'No, no, we're going on, we're going on,'"' Manzarek recalled.



    Crist began considering a pardon for Morrison in 2007 at the at the urging of a fan. He says he has doubts about whether Morrison actually exposed his penis during the rowdy Miami concert March 1, 1969. Morrison was convicted of public profanity and indecent exposure and sentenced to six months in jail and a $500 fine.



    The case has become murkier with the passage of years. Morrison's defense attorney said recently that the singer received a fair trial with credible witnesses on both sides, and fans who were at the show have differing recollections.



    Here's what most people agree on: The Doors went on stage late, the Dinner Key Auditorium was oversold and wasn't air conditioned. Morrison was drunk and stopped in the middle of songs with an anti-authority, profanity-riddled rant. A live lamb was brought on stage at one point, and Morrison also grabbed a police officer's hat and threw it in the crowd. The singer took off his shirt and fiddled with his belt, and fans poured onto the stage.



    "There were 100 photos offered in evidence at the trial, photos of everything - Jim with the lamb, Jim with the hat, on the stage collapsing, riot in the audience. Not one photo of Jim's magnificent member," said Manzarek.



    By teasing the audience that night in 1969, Morrison was trying to make a social statement, much like comedian Lenny Bruce, Krieger said. "To Jim it was kind of a case of testing the morals of the time," Krieger said. "Lenny Bruce, he was the first guy who really put himself on the line as far as the law and how far they would go. Jim was kind of following in his footsteps. Not on purpose, but it kind of ended up that way."



    New York's governor pardoned the late comedian on obscenity charges in 2002, 39 years after his conviction.



    A pardon won't change Morrison's image, but it will right a wrong, Manzarek and Krieger said. "Jim's legacy is one of Dionysian madness and frenzy and of a chaotic American poet. I don't think that the Miami episode has altered his image one iota," Manzarek said. Krieger added: "Nobody would like to have that charge hanging over their head even if they are dead. I'm sure his family would be happy to see that go, especially since it never happened."



    There are fans who still swear that Morrison exposed himself. "He actually unzipped and pulled his pants down a little bit, enough where you can see everything. I do remember being shocked when that happened, and definitely it happened," said Lee Winer, 56, who now lives north of San Francisco. "I can still picture it like it was yesterday."



    Others disagree. Helene Davis of Miami said she was an 18-year-old in the front row of the concert with a friend. She said Morrison teased the crowd by pretending he was going to unzip his pants, but never actually exposed himself.



    "We were watching and waiting because it was obvious that's where he was going with it," Davis said. "I just remembered thinking, 'Yes, it's going to happen! It's going happen! It's going to happen!' And it never did."
  • PETE'S BROTHER
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Feb 2007
    • 12678

    #2
    Another one of those classic genius posts, sure to generate responses. You log on the next day to see what your witty gem has produced to find no one gets it and 2 knotheads want to stick their dicks in it... Well played, sir!!

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    • Jagermeister
      Full Member Status

      • Apr 2010
      • 4510

      #3
      Originally posted by PETE'S BROTHER
      Yeah.

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      • Nitro Express
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 32798

        #4
        We better go to Paris and tell Jim the good news.
        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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        • Nitro Express
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Aug 2004
          • 32798

          #5
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          The party still goes on!
          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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          • sadaist
            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
            • Jul 2004
            • 11625

            #6
            So in another 15 years or so, Dave should be pardoned for that pot bust?


            It's just stupid when they do bullshit, meaningless crap like this. This is not what our elected officials should be spending time on. just look at the recent pardons Pres Obama handed out. Some guy busted & served probation 35 years ago. Why not look at some people currently doing real time & free some of them that deserve it?
            “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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            • ELVIS
              Banned
              • Dec 2003
              • 44120

              #7
              Art Bell says Morrison is not dead...

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              • Nitro Express
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 32798

                #8
                Originally posted by ELVIS
                Art Bell says Morrison is not dead...
                only if you have your tin foil hat on.
                No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                • Seshmeister
                  ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                  • Oct 2003
                  • 35197

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ELVIS
                  Art Bell says Morrison is not dead...
                  Well he must be pretty pissed off about being buried then.

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                  • chefcraig
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 12172

                    #10
                    Originally posted by sadaist
                    It's just stupid when they do bullshit, meaningless crap like this. This is not what our elected officials should be spending time on. just look at the recent pardons Pres Obama handed out. Some guy busted & served probation 35 years ago. Why not look at some people currently doing real time & free some of them that deserve it?
                    Exactly. Rampant unemployment, the worst rate of home foreclosure in all 50 states, the urban blight caused by home abandonment, escalating poverty, psychotic drivers, budget cuts that have placed dangerous sociopaths on the streets, inadequate public transportation, jail overcrowding, underpaid teachers, malevolent students, lowlife pieces of shit with a sense of entitlement that allows them to break into your home and steal you blind and beat you senseless while doing so...

                    Yet this absolute moron of a lame duck governor feels Jim Morrison's pecker deserves top priority. Then again, this is Florida we are talking about. The state is shaped like one.
                    Last edited by chefcraig; 12-09-2010, 02:31 PM.









                    “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                    ― Stephen Hawking

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                    • Nitro Express
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 32798

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Seshmeister
                      Well he must be pretty pissed off about being buried then.
                      How do we know for sure? What the hell. Let's dig up the grave to see for sure.
                      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                      • kwame k
                        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 11302

                        #12
                        This is the same thing as pardoning Keith Richards for a traffic bust, back in the 70's..................it's just a way of using a person's fame to generate press for yourself.

                        Usually the person, family member, friend, or associate, etc. asks for a pardon for the person, not the people who actually prosecuted the person for the alleged crime.
                        Originally posted by vandeleur
                        E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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                        • Nitro Express
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 32798

                          #13
                          Originally posted by chefcraig
                          Exactly. Rampant unemployment, the worst rate of home foreclosure in all 50 states, the urban blight caused by home abandonment, escalating poverty, psychotic drivers, budget cuts that have placed dangerous sociopaths on the streets, inadequate public transportation, jail overcrowding, underpaid teachers, malevolent students, lowlife pieces of shit with a sense of entitlement that allows them to break into your home and steal you blind and beat you senseless while doing so...

                          Yet this absolute moron of a lame duck governor feels Jim Morrison's pecker deserves top priority. Then again, this is Florida we are talking about. The state is shaped like one.
                          I invite you to hang with me in my snow cave while western society implodes and the masses turn on each other and kill each other. I have a good stash of booze and weed and after the population has been culled, we can come out and take over.
                          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                          • chefcraig
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 12172

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Nitro Express
                            I invite you to hang with me in my snow cave while western society implodes and the masses turn on each other and kill each other.
                            Sounds good, except every time we stoke the fire or light up the bong, the roof starts to melt.









                            “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                            ― Stephen Hawking

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                            • PETE'S BROTHER
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 12678

                              #15
                              hope you guys are gonna have some broads in there, just sayin'
                              Another one of those classic genius posts, sure to generate responses. You log on the next day to see what your witty gem has produced to find no one gets it and 2 knotheads want to stick their dicks in it... Well played, sir!!

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