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    Giuliani to replace Cheney on ticket?



    Giuliani to replace Cheney on ticket?
    Bush camp considers switch leading to NYC convention

    Posted: June 9, 2004
    1:00 a.m. Eastern


    By Joseph Farah
    © 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

    WASHINGTON – There are whispers among high-level political advisers to President Bush suggesting the possibility of replacing Dick Cheney with former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani as the vice presidential running mate prior to the Republican National Convention in New York beginning Aug. 30.

    Cheney, who has no aspirations to run for president in 2008 and has had well-publicized heart problems, has been involved in the discussions and is open to the idea if it strengthens the ticket and helps position a viable Republican candidate to succeed Bush, sources tell WND.

    Originally, Cheney was asked by Bush to lead the effort to find the best running mate in 2000. After months of interviews and offering advice, Bush surprised many by picking Cheney.

    Giuliani, as well as New York Gov. George Pataki, has been expected to play a starring role at the convention. Both are also considered possible presidential candidates in 2008. Securing the vice presidential nomination, however, would instantly make Giuliani the front-runner among all potential Republican candidates.

    "There is some thinking at the very highest political levels that this move could add some late sizzle to the campaign, steal any thunder generated by the Democrats in Boston and even potentially put the state of New York in play for the president," said one source close to both Giuliani and the White House.

    No one is talking on the record, and the plan is not yet set in stone.

    So far, the only people who have speculated publicly about such a move are Democrats.

    "They'll probably play Rudy heavier than any other part of the convention," former New York Gov. Mario Cuomo told the Associated Press last week. "So Rudy will go up and people will start talking about him replacing Cheney or him running for president. It'll be very, very good for Rudy."

    Giuliani became a national star in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks that brought down the World Trade Center towers, killing almost 3,000 people. He became known as "America's mayor."

    "They'll make the most of 9-11, the most of Rudy," Cuomo said. "He is now still iconic, you saw that in 9-11 and that's it," the Democrat added. "He's received a stature which is, for the time being, absolutely unshakable."

    Giuliani has said he may return to elective politics as early as 2006 by running either for governor, should Pataki call it quits after three terms, or for U.S. Senate against Democratic incumbent Hillary Rodham Clinton. In the face of prostate cancer, Giuliani withdrew from the 2000 Senate race won by Clinton.

    By beating Clinton in 2006, Giuliani would not only position himself as a leading candidate for president in 2008, he would have eliminated the Democrats’ No. 1 contender. But it's a risky proposition for Giuliani. If he can't topple the popular Democratic incumbent, his chances of becoming president, or even winning the nomination in 2008, would be slim indeed.

    There is little love lost between Pataki and Giuliani. Giuliani angered many Republicans in 1994 when he crossed party lines to endorse Cuomo's bid for a fourth term. Pataki beat Cuomo in that election.

    The only potential political danger in replacing Cheney with Giuliani, said a source close to Bush, is that it would create problems with the president's right flank. Giuliani is widely perceived as less conservative than Cheney, and by elevating him to front-runner in 2008, Bush could anger many conservatives.

    Giuliani is also being considered as a replacement for George Tenet as director of the Central Intelligence Agency. However, Bush appears to be in no rush to fill that slot. It's possible, one source said, it could be held open for Cheney.

    The GOP convention is being held Aug. 30-Sept. 2. Democrats are holding their convention in Boston at the end of July.
  • Ally_Kat
    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
    • Jan 2004
    • 7608

    #2
    Who cares if he's less conservative. He knows how to take care of things. He fixed this city right during his term.
    Roth Army Militia

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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 58754

      #3
      This rumor's been around for months. If it happens, it's only because Uncle Dick will have to act like he's taking the fall for some major fuckup. Outing Valerie Plame as a CIA agent would be most likely, though the prison torture scandal and Halliburton's extortion and theft could also be possibilities.

      But even if Cheney were off the ticket, he'd still be pulling Junior's strings from his "undisclosed location". As Perle and Karen Hughes have already proved, you never really "resign" from the Bush Criminal Empire.
      Eat Us And Smile

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      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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      • ELVIS
        Banned
        • Dec 2003
        • 44120

        #4
        Who cares you idiot...

        It would be a sure fire win...

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        • Seshmeister
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Oct 2003
          • 35160

          #5
          How could Gulianni play second fiddle to that retard?

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          • Lqskdiver
            Sniper
            • Jun 2004
            • 763

            #6
            It's PRESIDENT retard to you.

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            • steve
              Sniper
              • Feb 2004
              • 841

              #7
              A Pro-abortion former Mayor of NYC, strong on law enforcement, helped re-organize and focus many NYC social instituions during his term, experience with dealing with a multitude of different races and cultures...

              sounds like a Democrat to me.

              If the Republicans have to do this to win...hey, great!

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              • FORD
                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                • Jan 2004
                • 58754

                #8
                And then Kerry could pick McCain as a running mate and everybody could be confused.
                Eat Us And Smile

                Cenk For America 2024!!

                Justice Democrats


                "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                • knuckleboner
                  Crazy Ass Mofo
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 2927

                  #9
                  Originally posted by FORD
                  And then Kerry could pick McCain as a running mate and everybody could be confused.
                  no...not until nader and perot agree to be co-presidents on the independent ticket will we all be REALLY confused...

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                  • FORD
                    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 58754

                    #10
                    Originally posted by knuckleboner
                    no...not until nader and perot agree to be co-presidents on the independent ticket will we all be REALLY confused...
                    Nader & Buchanan would be a more interesting combination
                    Eat Us And Smile

                    Cenk For America 2024!!

                    Justice Democrats


                    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                    • Ally_Kat
                      ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 7608

                      #11
                      Originally posted by steve
                      strong on law enforcement
                      how is that like a Democrat? Maybe the Democrats are different in Virginia, but here they kept cutting back the police force and let crime and all that get out of hand here to where New York WAS that hellhole everyone thought it to be.

                      experience with dealing with a multitude of different races and cultures...

                      The minorities here hated him. Still do. Funny thing is that they were the people he helped most when he was in office. They called him racist and he's had more Hitler references made to him than Ford does to Bush.
                      Roth Army Militia

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                      • FORD
                        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 58754

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Ally_Kat
                        he's had more Hitler references made to him than Ford does to Bush.
                        Rudy's grandpa funded Hitler too?? :confused:
                        Eat Us And Smile

                        Cenk For America 2024!!

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                        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                        • Ally_Kat
                          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 7608

                          #13
                          lol! no, not that i know of hun, but you know all those pics of Bush made to look like Hitler? Oh, they did that and worse to Rudy.
                          Roth Army Militia

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                          • High Life Man
                            Commando
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 1286

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Seshmeister
                            How could Gulianni play second fiddle to that MAN?
                            He'd do it as he'd be a shoo in for the 08 presidency.

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                            • FORD
                              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                              • Jan 2004
                              • 58754

                              #15
                              Originally posted by High Life Man
                              He'd do it as he'd be a shoo in for the 08 presidency.
                              Indeed that might be his motivation. But the fact is that if the BCE happens to pull off a "re"election, they will so destroy this country that no Republican will be able to win an election for 40 years.

                              Assuming such things as elections actually still exist.
                              Eat Us And Smile

                              Cenk For America 2024!!

                              Justice Democrats


                              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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