5 Reasons Unions Are Bad For America

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  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10620

    5 Reasons Unions Are Bad For America



    At one time in this country, there were few workplace safety laws, few restraints on employers, and incredibly exploitive working conditions that ranged from slavery, to share cropping, to putting children in dangerous working conditions. Unions, to their everlasting credit, helped play an important role in leveling the playing field for workers.

    However, as the laws changed, there was less and less need for unions. Because of that, union membership shrank. In response, the unions became more explicitly involved in politics. Over time, they managed to co-opt the Democratic Party, pull their strings, and rewrite our labor laws in their favor.

    As Lord Acton noted, "Power tends to corrupt," and that has certainly been true for the unions. Unions have become selfish, extremely greedy, and even thuggish in their never-ending quest to take in as much as they can for themselves, at the expense of everyone else who crosses their path.

    That's why today, unions have changed from organizations that "look out for the little guy" into the largest, most rapacious special interest group in the entire country. Where unions go, disaster usually follows. Just to name a few examples:

    1) Unions are severely damaging whole industries: How is it that GM and Chrysler got into such lousy shape that they had to be bailed out? There's a simple answer: The unions. The massive pensions the car companies paid out raised their costs so much that they were limited to building more expensive cars to try to get their money back. They couldn't even do a great job of building those cars because utterly ridiculous union rules prevented them from using their labor efficiently. America created the automobile industry, but American unions are strangling it to death. Unions also wrecked the steel and textile industries and have helped drive manufacturing jobs overseas. They're crippling the airline industry and, of course, we can't forget that...

    2) Unions are ruining public education: Every few years, it's the same old story. The teachers’ unions claim that public education in this country is dramatically underfunded and if they just had more money, they could turn it around. Taxpayer money then pours into our schools like a waterfall and....there's no improvement. A few years later, when people have forgotten the last spending spree on education, the process is repeated.

    However, the real problem with our education system in this country is the teachers’ unions. They do everything possible to prevent schools not only from firing lousy teachers, but also from rewarding talented teachers. Merit pay? The unions hate it. Private schools? Even though everyone knows they deliver a better education than our public schools, unions fight to keep as many kids as possible locked in failing private schools. In Wisconsin, we've had whole schools shutting down so that lazy teachers can waste their time protesting on the taxpayers’ dime. Want to improve education in this country? Then you've got to take on the teachers’ unions.

    3) Unions are costing you billions of tax dollars: Let's put it plain and simple: Government workers shouldn't be allowed to unionize. Period.

    Why?

    Because you elect representatives to look out for your interests.

    It's obviously in your interest to pay as little as possible to government workers, to keep their benefits as low as possible, and to hire as few of them as possible to do the job. However, because the Democratic Party and the unions are in bed with each other, this entire process has been turned on its ear. Instead of looking out for your interests, Democrats try to hire as many government workers as possible, pay them as much as possible, and give them benefits that are as generous as possible, all so that union workers will do more to get them re-elected.

    In other words, the Democratic Party and the unions are engaged in an open conspiracy to defraud the American taxpayer. There's no way that the American people should allow that to continue.

    4) Unions are fundamentally anti-democratic : How in the world did we get to the point where people can be forced to join a union just to get a job at certain places? Then, after they're dragooned into the union, they have no choice other than to pay dues that are used for political activities which the unwilling dues-paying member may oppose.

    Add to that the fact that the Democrats and the government unions collaborate to subvert democracy at the expense of the taxpayer and it's not a pretty picture. Worse yet, unions have gotten so voracious that they even want to do away with the secret ballot, via card check, so they can openly bully people into joining unions. The way unions behave in this country is undemocratic, un-American, and it should trouble anyone who cares about freedom and individual rights.

    5) Government unions are bankrupting cities and states: Government unions have bled billions from taxpayers nationally, but the damage they're doing on the local level is even worse. We have cities and states all across the country that are so behind on their bills that there have been genuine discussions about bankruptcy. There are a lot of irresponsible financial policies that have helped contribute to that sorry state-of-affairs, but unquestionably, the biggest backbreakers can be directly traced back to the unions.

    As the Washington Times has noted, union pensions are crushing budgets all across the country.

    Yet it comes as little surprise that the same profligacy that pervades the corridors of federal power infects this country’s 87,000 state, county and municipal governments and school districts. By 2013, the amount of retirement money promised to employees of these public entities will exceed cash on hand by more than a trillion dollars.
    So, what happens when these pensions can't be paid? They will come to the taxpayers with their hands out. When they stroll forward with their beggar's bowl in hand, the American people should keep their wallets in their pockets. That may not seem fair, but the public sector union members have gotten a great deal at everyone else's expense for a long time and if somebody has to take a haircut, and they do, it should be the union members instead of the taxpayers they've been bilking for so long.
    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush
  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10620

    #2
    I wonder why Obama hasn't insisted Federal workers shouldn't have the same bargaining rights as a lot of state union workers?

    It's because he knows it does nothing but hold taxpayers hostage to a bunch of wealthy union leaders.
    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 58758

      #3
      What an unbelievable shit pile of lies, hate, and distortions. Or in other words, a typical townhell.com rant.

      Most ridiculous part of it is when the bozo attempts to contrast union members with "taxpayers".

      Union members ARE taxpayers. It's the corporations who hate unions who are dodging their taxes. And the sick irony is that corrupt politicians are bowing to the will of these criminals who refuse to even pay THEIR salaries.
      Eat Us And Smile

      Cenk For America 2024!!

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      • SunisinuS
        Crazy Ass Mofo
        • May 2010
        • 3301

        #4


        /shrug
        Can't Control your Future. Can't Control your Friends. The women start to hike their skirts up. I didn't have a clue. That is when I kinda learned how to smile a lot. One Two Three Fouir fun ter thehr fuur.

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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 58758

          #5
          The KKKoch Brothers sell more astroturf than the guys who get the contracts with football stadiums.
          Eat Us And Smile

          Cenk For America 2024!!

          Justice Democrats


          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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          • bueno bob
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Jul 2004
            • 22830

            #6
            I found it HIGHLY amusing that the link provided immediately gave me a pop up on how to get Sarah Palin's new book for free.

            Tells me EVERYTHING I need to know about that stupid fucking website right there.
            Twistin' by the pool.

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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 58758

              #7
              Speaking of astroturfing.......

              Eat Us And Smile

              Cenk For America 2024!!

              Justice Democrats


              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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              • the atomic punk
                Full On Cocktard
                • Mar 2011
                • 32

                #8
                At one time in this country, there were few workplace safety laws, few restraints on employers, and incredibly exploitive working conditions that ranged from slavery, to share cropping, to putting children in dangerous working conditions. Unions, to their everlasting credit, helped play an important role in leveling the playing field for workers.
                Everything in that sentence goes on today in emerging nations at the behest of American Corporations. If they'll do it to them, they'll do it to you. What more really needs to be said? Not only did unions "level the playing feild", they created the middle class.


                America created the automobile industry, but American unions are strangling it to death.
                Please. The German auto makers unions make the American unions look like girl scouts. They get to vote on the board of directors for crissakes. And the Japanese automakers enjoy a level of protectionism unheard of in the states. When did Toyota start having safety problems? When they started using non-union labor in southern U.S. assembly plants. No automakers in the world suffer the level of contempt from their employers that American autoworkers do.


                It's obviously in your interest to pay as little as possible to government workers, to keep their benefits as low as possible, and to hire as few of them as possible to do the job.
                What? In my interest to pay as little as possible for teachers? Prison gaurds? Police officers? That's gotta be the craziest shit I've ever read.

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                • Dr. Love
                  ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 7825

                  #9
                  Don't feed the troll, folks!
                  I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

                  http://i.imgur.com/jBw4fCu.gif

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                  • ELVIS
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 44120

                    #10
                    Which one is the troll ??

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                    • Matt White
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 20497

                      #11
                      Wow.....I almost hurt myself from laughing...

                      Utter teabagger nonsene....
                      From the guys who brought us slave labor....

                      What has cost the tax payers billions? How about the savings & loans payout and the....oh yeah the Wall Street payout of 2008.....same people...same old story

                      Now the oil speculators are bleeding us dry again....

                      but those damn Unions....hysterical

                      And that SHIT about the Big 3....what hurt em? Fucking Health Care....

                      NO WAY we can fix health Care....because they all suck on that tit......

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                      • Dr. Love
                        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 7825

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ELVIS
                        Which one is the troll ??
                        the one posting nonsense just to get a reaction
                        I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

                        http://i.imgur.com/jBw4fCu.gif

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                        • Guitar Shark
                          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 7576

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Dr. Love
                          the one posting nonsense just to get a reaction
                          Shut up, troll
                          ROTH ARMY MILITIA


                          Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
                          Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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                          • the atomic punk
                            Full On Cocktard
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 32

                            #14
                            A unionized public employee, an ill-informed citizen, and a CEO are sitting at a table. In the middle of the table is a plate with a dozen cookies on it. The CEO reaches across and takes 11 cookies, looks at the ill-informed citizen and says, “Watch out for that union guy. He wants a piece of your cookie.”

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                            • BigBadBrian
                              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 10620

                              #15
                              Originally posted by bueno bob
                              I found it HIGHLY amusing that the link provided immediately gave me a pop up on how to get Sarah Palin's new book for free.

                              Tells me EVERYTHING I need to know about that stupid fucking website right there.
                              God forbid you actually read an opposing viewpoint and get some info from something other than the Huffington Post and the Daily Show.
                              “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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