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BigBadBrian
04-07-2011, 11:40 AM
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Chairman Paul Ryan Outlines New Budget: The Path to Prosperity
Posted by Don Seymour on April 05, 2011

In this morning's Wall Street Journal, House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-WI) outlined The Path to Prosperity, our new budget proposal for creating a better environment for private-sector job growth, stopping Washington from spending money we don’t have, and lifting the crushing burden of debt that threatens the future for our children and grandchildren.

David Brooks of the New York Times says The Path to Prosperity is "the most comprehensive and most courageous budget reform proposal any of us have seen in our lifetimes." While we encourage you to read Chairman Ryan's full op-ed, here are some key excerpts:

Creating a Better Environment for Private-Sector Job Growth: According to recent analysis, Chairman Ryan says The Path to Prosperity "will help create nearly one million new private-sector jobs next year, bring the unemployment rate down to 4% by 2015, and result in 2.5 million additional private-sector jobs in the last year of the decade." And "it would result in $1.1 trillion in higher wages and an average of $1,000 in additional family income each year." The budget will also “focus on growth by reforming the nation's outdated tax code.”

Stopping Washington from Spending Money We Don’t Have: Ryan says The Path to Prosperity "cuts $6.2 trillion in spending from the president's budget over the next 10 years, reduces the debt as a percentage of the economy, and puts the nation on a path to actually pay off our national debt." There a number of common-sense savings, including "reforming agricultural subsidies, shrinking the federal work force through a sensible attrition policy, and accepting Defense Secretary Robert Gates's plan to target inefficiencies at the Pentagon."

Lifting the Crushing Burden of Debt That Threatens Current Retirees & Future Generations: The Path to Prosperity "will not affect those in or near retirement in any way," says Ryan. But "[s]tarting in 2022, new Medicare beneficiaries will be enrolled in the same kind of health-care program that members of Congress enjoy." The plan also builds "upon ideas offered by the president's bipartisan fiscal commission" to "save Social Security for current retirees and strengthen it for future generations." And there's more. Auto-pilot spending is driving our debt crisis, but The Path to Prosperity protects these programs for current retirees while lifting the crushing burden of debt that threatens our children and grandchildren.

The Path to Prosperity also repeals and defunds the president's health care law, ends expensive taxpayer support for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and calls for a free and open market for American energy exploration and production. And there's much more. Again, read the whole op-ed by Chairman Ryan here.

And stay tuned to Speaker.gov and Budget.House.gov for more information.

BigBadBrian
04-07-2011, 11:42 AM
Common-Sense Troop Funding Bill Deserves Bipartisan, Bicameral Support
Posted by Don Seymour on April 07, 2011

House Republicans will vote today to fund our troops for the rest of the fiscal year and cut an additional $12 billion over the next week while preventing a government shutdown. This is the latest effort by the House to resolve last year’s budget mess while making real spending cuts to create a better environment for job growth. You can read the bill online here.

Speaker Boehner told Good Morning America today that passing this troop funding bill will “ensure that the government is open” while we continue to “work to reduce spending.”

In fact, this troop funding bill reflects a bipartisan, bicameral agreement that was reached last December on funding for the Department of Defense. In the months since then, the United States has become involved in a third war, making it all the more critical that this legislation be enacted now.

Moreover, not a single Senator has raised an objection to the policies in this bill. There is simply no policy reason for the Senate not to follow the House in passing this troop funding bill.

The American people want Washington to stop the spending binge that is hurting our economy and threatening job growth without shutting down the government. It’s been 47 days since the House passed H.R. 1 and Senate Democrats still haven’t passed a bill to keep the government running for the fiscal year or offered a credible plan to cut spending. This troop funding bill will give them another week to offer a credible plan that shows Washington is serious about addressing its spending addiction.

kwame k
04-07-2011, 12:19 PM
......and your thoughts on this are what, Forrest.

BTW, how many Op-Ed spams are you going to post on the same fucking subject in the Front Line today?

Kristy
04-07-2011, 12:38 PM
......and your thoughts on this are what, Forrest.

BTW, how many Op-Ed spams are you going to post on the same fucking subject in the Front Line today?

Go find a brick wall and bash your head against it. As unproductive and insane that may be it makes more sense to do that then to ask brian here any sort of coherent rational question.

FORD
04-07-2011, 01:54 PM
Brian and his heroes Jockstrap Ryan and Oompa Loompa BONER fail to grasp the obvious.....

You talk "budget cuts" one second and then immediately talk about MORE money to fund useless fucking occupations that have NOT ONE FUCKING THING TO DO WITH DEFENDING THIS COUNTRY.

Uh, you assholes want to SERIOUSLY save money? Start there.

Then, close every stinking tax loophole. That includes personal taxes, corporate taxes, and especially inheritance tax (For Christ's sake, there MUST be a 100% inheritance tax in place before Poppy Bush dies or we'll never get rid of the BCE)

Budget "crisis" solved. Because it never was really a crisis, just 30 years of outright theft.

BigBadBrian
04-07-2011, 03:22 PM
Brian and his heroes Jockstrap Ryan and Oompa Loompa BONER fail to grasp the obvious.....

You talk "budget cuts" one second and then immediately talk about MORE money to fund useless fucking occupations that have NOT ONE FUCKING THING TO DO WITH DEFENDING THIS COUNTRY.

Uh, you assholes want to SERIOUSLY save money? Start there.



How about we also do away with welfare, food stamps, and 99 weeks of unemployment compensation?

Why should I pay someones healthcare bill? If they're self-employed, paying your own way is part of the cost of doing business, right?

Welfare and paying out unemployment has cost us twice as much as iraq and Afghanistan has, and your boy is getting us involved in another conflict. I don't hear you bitching about that.

kwame k
04-07-2011, 03:39 PM
How about we also do away with welfare, food stamps, and 99 weeks of unemployment compensation?

Why should I pay someones healthcare bill? If they're self-employed, paying your own way is part of the cost of doing business, right?

Welfare and paying out unemployment has cost us twice as much as iraq and Afghanistan has, and your boy is getting us involved in another conflict. I don't hear you bitching about that.


Your stupidity never ceases to amaze me, Forrest.

I'm self employed and I pay double the taxes because of it and now you're telling me that having health insurance is the cost of doing business.......the whole idea was to make health care affordable so everyone could get health insurance, jackass. As it stands now, no small business can afford to offer insurance to their employees and if you're self-employed the cost is through the roof and even the bargain insurance is so worthless it's not worth having.

Welfare should be a temporary solution with the end goal of getting people back to work. Unemployment should be viewed as the same. Yet, I see no Repuke or Demo even addressing the issue of getting people back to work......of course there's not a ton of good paying jobs out there so if you want to cut welfare/unemployment create jobs.

Bullshit......you got a link or some actual source [other than a talk show or Op-Ed piece] for this dumb ass statement
Welfare and paying out unemployment has cost us twice as much as iraq and Afghanistan has, and your boy is getting us involved in another conflict. I don't hear you bitching about that.

kwame k
04-07-2011, 03:43 PM
BTW Forrest.......we just dropped some bombs in Libya as part of a joint effort and we are not invading!

Has Rush given you the date when our troops are invading or are you so upset that your boyfriend BecKKK is going off the air that your grief has clouded your judgement!

FORD
04-07-2011, 08:06 PM
How about we also do away with welfare, food stamps, and 99 weeks of unemployment compensation?

How about we herd people up into boxcars and drag them off to concentration camps? End result is the same as what you and Ryan are proposing. Hitler was just more honest about it. Furthermore, unemployment compensation has nothing to do with "welfare", since everyone who IS employed pays into it. They call it unemployment insurance for a reason. Like any other insurance, it's there when you need it, but you hope you never do. And it shouldn't run out until you have a job. If you can't find a job within 99 weeks, then the problem is NOT with the unemployed, but with the lack of fucking jobs due to outsourcing, mergers, and the other byproducts of 30 years of unrestrained predatory capitalism.

As for food stamps, they're the most fool proof "stimulus plan" the government invented. Every cent of it gets spent on food, which keeps grocery store clerks, truck drivers, farmers, and food factory workers employed. Who the fuck would oppose that?



Why should I pay someones healthcare bill? If they're self-employed, paying your own way is part of the cost of doing business, right?

You pay someone else's healthcare bill every time you pay private insurance too. Except for the fact that 30-40% of it goes to pay some fucking pig CEO's salary.


Welfare and paying out unemployment has cost us twice as much as iraq and Afghanistan has, and your boy is getting us involved in another conflict. I don't hear you bitching about that.

Better get your eyes checked. I'm on record against this Libyan clusterfuck, just like all the other bullshit in that area of the planet.

ELVIS
04-07-2011, 08:23 PM
the whole idea was to make health care affordable so everyone could get health insurance,

You're an idiot if you believe that...

Kristy
04-07-2011, 08:28 PM
STFU Elvis

Kristy
04-07-2011, 08:58 PM
How about we also do away with welfare, food stamps, and 99 weeks of unemployment compensation?

Why should I pay someones healthcare bill? If they're self-employed, paying your own way is part of the cost of doing business, right?

Welfare and paying out unemployment has cost us twice as much as iraq and Afghanistan has, and your boy is getting us involved in another conflict. I don't hear you bitching about that.

I have to ask, what decade do you live in? If you haven't noticed, healthcare cost are through the roof especially for small business owners. For example, you dumbass, when I worked in a music store I put in roughly 32-34 a week which barely qualified me for any health insurance at all. Now my boss who was also the owner had to pay into that, PLUS workman's compensation, PLUS my wage, PLUS his business rent and insurance, his apartment rent, his part in child support, his car insurance, and other miscellaneous bills such as internet, phones, heat, whatever. When health care stating rising he found himself paying more into and getting less out of it so something had to go and employee health was the first to be cut not only for me but for himself as well for that alone is what was costing him twice as much. Whatever the fuck the color of the sky is on your planet, paying his way wasn't what it was all about.

As for welfare, I agree there are way too many who suck off the system like your mother in her latest porn flick and that does need to be revamped but not cut. Welfare is a system that is too over bloated to be probably run anymore and yet it can be easily fixed if the government looked into it and make some serious changes. Cutting it is not going to solve any problems, rather, only create more homelessness, more of a burden on those with health issues on the taxpayer and further increase the gap between the have and have nots which only in turn makes for a weaker nation. Poverty is not socialism, it's a fucking disgrace in this country. I would much rather pay for someone to have a decent meal every night then drop another god damn bomb in a country and see so many innocent lives being destroyed in one context or another.

Food stamps? Been on them myself for six months at a cost to the taxpayer of $48/month to live on. That's right, I robbed the employed for a grand total of $288 and still had many a night where I went to bed hungry; I was lucky, I had some opportunity to find work where others may not. Going to bed starving for a night or two is bad enough but there are too many who do it for days and days who are hard-working people who may be more than down on their luck. I'm sure you don't understand but once your mother kicks your sorry ass out of her basement will you only begin to grasp that price of food and what it cost just to survive day by day in this country is what really "paying your own way" is really about.

Seriously, you have no clue. And what's sad is that you never will. You can hardly think for yourself, much less speak for yourself. Politely fuck off back to your "sources" (i.e., your right-wing forum boards) and copy & paste your useless propaganda there.

knuckleboner
04-07-2011, 09:17 PM
Common-Sense Troop Funding Bill Deserves Bipartisan, Bicameral Support
Posted by Don Seymour on April 07, 2011

This troop funding bill will give them another week to offer a credible plan that shows Washington is serious about addressing its spending addiction.

haha. in no way is this a common sense troop funding bill. it is very clearly a bill the republicans do not want to see passed. this is a PR exercise only. they designed it not to pass by including a COMPLETELY unrelated rider about abortion in D.C. it has nothing to do with cutting spending or funding the military. it's sole purpose is to get democrats, especially those in the senate, to vote against the bill so that republicans can self-righteously claim that they don't want to shut the government down, but the democrats voted to do so, and voted against the military.

i will not claim that in the many months of FY2011 funding that the democrats are blameless. but this particular bill the republicans put forward is nothing more than a politcal posturing and intentional waste of time.

Seshmeister
04-07-2011, 09:25 PM
You're an idiot if you believe that...

I always prefer when people post 'your an idiot' it's the irony that keeps giving after all these years.

As far as the motives for the crap healthcare bill I am pretty sure it did start out as 'a way to to make health care affordable so everyone could get health insurance'.

Owned and effectively corrupt politicians from both parties turned it into what it is now...

ELVIS
04-07-2011, 11:09 PM
So it's the honest politicians that want to give everyone sick insurance ??

Listen closely...

Big Brother doesn't give a FUCK about you or me...

They do not care how much sick insurance costs...

They don't care how much gas costs...

They don't care if you have a job...

They don't give a FUCK! AT ALL!!!


:elvis:

Seshmeister
04-08-2011, 04:16 AM
There is no Big Brother. There are a collection of 100s of thousands of individuals who work for the government all with their own agendas most of which involve clinging onto their jobs so that they can feed and clothe their families.

ELVIS
04-08-2011, 07:34 AM
Bullshit...

BigBadBrian
04-08-2011, 07:49 AM
Your stupidity never ceases to amaze me, Forrest.

I'm self employed and I pay double the taxes because of it and now you're telling me that having health insurance is the cost of doing business

Yes it is. pay for your own healthcare, you freeloader. Hey you might have to go mow a few more lawns with your "groundskeeping service," but that's life.



Bullshit......you got a link or some actual source [other than a talk show or Op-Ed piece] for this dumb ass statement

Go look it up, Lazy (laziness is also probably why you want others to pay your healthcare bill). I found it online. Get to it, boy!

BigBadBrian
04-08-2011, 07:53 AM
i will not claim that in the many months of FY2011 funding that the democrats are blameless. but this particular bill the republicans put forward is nothing more than a politcal posturing and intentional waste of time.

True. Like the Dems don't pull the same shit. Hey, if the dems want our military to be paid, all they have to do is sacrifice a few abortions in DC. That's not too much to ask, is it?

BigBadBrian
04-08-2011, 08:01 AM

Kristy
04-08-2011, 10:07 AM
True. Like the Dems don't pull the same shit. Hey, if the dems want our military to be paid, all they have to do is sacrifice a few abortions in DC. That's not too much to ask, is it?

It is when it came to time sacrifice for you. Shithead.

Seshmeister
04-08-2011, 11:56 AM
Bullshit...


Are you sure you are clean and sober these days, you seem to have a real dose of paranoia?

Hardrock69
04-08-2011, 01:16 PM
Funny.....I saw an idiot Retardlican on the Senate Floor today claiming that 90% of all abortions provided by Planned Parenthood would be cut off by passing the Retardlican budget package.

Funny thing is, there are NO abortions funded by Federal dollars whatsoever.

CNN had the head of Planned Parenthood on immediately following the speech by that Retardlican troll.


Amazing.....a Retardlican caught IMMEDIATELY in a FUCKING LIE! ON NATION TV no less!

Who woulda thought? :hee:

hambon4lif
04-08-2011, 03:40 PM
There are a collection of 100s of thousands of individuals who work for the government all with their own agendas most of which involve clinging onto their jobs so that they can feed and clothe their families.Which will be right next to impossible once the shutdown happens. A few people my gal runs with have government jobs, and they've all been receiving e-mails for the last week or so warning them they may be furloughed. Not only will they have no job to go to, they won't be making a fucking cent either. Zero. Zilch. Nada. Nothing.

It's going to be interesting to see how the government gets away with leaving 800,000+ people to twist in the wind.

Guitar Shark
04-08-2011, 03:57 PM
Well, they will almost certainly get paid retroactively, but that's little consolation to the folks that live paycheck to paycheck of course.

ELVIS
04-08-2011, 06:46 PM
Are you sure you are clean and sober these days, you seem to have a real dose of paranoia?

Paranoid of what ??

I just don't want government deciding what's best for me...at all...

BigBadBrian
04-09-2011, 06:42 AM
Funny.....I saw an idiot Retardlican on the Senate Floor today claiming that 90% of all abortions provided by Planned Parenthood would be cut off by passing the Retardlican budget package.

Funny thing is, there are NO abortions funded by Federal dollars whatsoever.



BULLSHIT...more liberal lies. Federal dollars help fund Planned Parenthood and they are the nation's leading abortion provider. Federal money shouldn't fund this.

BigBadBrian
04-09-2011, 06:46 AM
KEY FACTS: Bipartisan Agreement on Spending Cuts to Support American Job Creation
Posted by Speaker Boehner Press Office on April 08, 2011

Just a short while ago, House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) announced a bipartisan agreement on historic spending cuts – the largest cuts in American history – to help create a better environment for private sector job growth. Watch Boehner’s announcement here:





You can read the joint statement by Speaker Boehner and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) here. Boehner said the agreement will “cut spending and keep our government open” – this agreement alone will cut hundreds of billions of dollars in spending over the next decade – and will “help create a better environment for job creators in our country.” Here are some key facts on the bipartisan agreement:

THE LARGEST SPENDING CUT IN AMERICAN HISTORY. The agreement will immediately cut $38.5 billion in federal spending – the largest spending cut in American history in terms of dollars – just months after President Obama asked Congress for a spending “freeze” that would mean zero cuts.

HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS IN SPENDING CUTS OVER THE NEXT DECADE. The agreement will cut hundreds of billions of dollars from the federal budget over the next decade – “real money,” as the Wall Street Journal editorial board recently noted.

OFFICIALLY ENDS THE “STIMULUS” SPENDING BINGE. The agreement begins to reverse the “stimulus” spending binge that began in 2009 – signaling the official end of a period of unprecedented government intervention that former Federal Reserve Board Chairman Alan Greenspan and other economists say hurt job creation in America by crowding out private investment.

SETS STAGE FOR TRILLIONS MORE IN SPENDING CUTS. Clears the way for congressional action on House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan’s budget – The Path to Prosperity – which cuts trillions in spending and offers a long-term blueprint for American job creation.

GUARANTEES SENATE VOTE ON REPEAL OF OBAMACARE. The agreement reached with Senate Democrats guarantees a Senate debate and vote on legislation that would repeal President Obama’s government takeover of health care in its entirety. The House passed such legislation in January as part of the Pledge to America.

NEW TOOLS IN THE FIGHT TO REPEAL OBAMACARE. The agreement will generate new tools for the fight to repeal Obamacare by requiring numerous studies that will force the Obama Administration to reveal the true impact of the law’s mandates, including a study of how individuals and families will see increased premiums as a result of certain Obamacare mandates; a full audit of all the waivers that the Obama Administration has given to firms and organizations – including unions - who can't meet the new annual coverage limits; a full audit of what's happening with the comparative effectiveness research funding that was in Obamacare and the president’s failed “stimulus” spending bill; and a report on all of the contractors who have been hired to implement the law and the costs to taxpayers of such contracts.

DENIES ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO THE IRS. The Obama administration has sought increased federal funding for the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) – money that could be used to hire additional agents to enforce the administration’s agenda on a variety of issues. This increased funding is denied in the agreement.

GUARANTEES SENATE VOTE & DEBATE ON DE-FUNDING PLANNED PARENTHOOD. The agreement with Senate Democrats guarantees a Senate debate and vote on legislation that would end federal funding for Planned Parenthood.

BANS TAXPAYER FUNDING OF ABORTION IN THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA. The agreement includes a complete ban on local and federal funding of abortion in the District of Columbia, applying the pro-life principles of the Hyde Amendment (“D.C. Hyde”).

MANDATORY AUDITS OF THE NEW JOB-CRUSHING BUREAUCRACY SET UP UNDER DODD-FRANK. The agreement subjects the so-called Consumer Financial Protection Bureau created by the job-destroying Dodd-Frank law to yearly audits by both the private sector and the Government Accountability Office (GAO) to monitor its impact on the economy, including its impact on jobs, by examining whether sound cost-benefit analyses are being used with rulemakings.

FORD
04-09-2011, 11:46 AM
BULLSHIT...more liberal lies. Federal dollars help fund Planned Parenthood and they are the nation's leading abortion provider. Federal money shouldn't fund this.

You mean the same Planned Parenthood that was founded by Prescott Bush and a few of his friends? ;)

BigBadBrian
04-13-2011, 08:14 AM
You mean the same Planned Parenthood that was founded by Prescott Bush and a few of his friends? ;)

Planned Parenthood, founded by Margaret Sanger, didn't offer abortions when first founded.

Federal money should not be used to fund abortions.

By claiming conservatives want to hurt women's healthcare by defunding PP, the Democrat's are truly The Party of Fear and Ignorance.

Seshmeister
04-13-2011, 11:45 AM

ELVIS
04-13-2011, 12:41 PM
That twit is supposed to be an american ??

hideyoursheep
04-15-2011, 07:58 PM
That twit is supposed to be an american ??
We say the same thing about you. Ironic, eh?


How about we also do away with welfare, food stamps, and 99 weeks of unemployment compensation?

Why should I pay someones healthcare bill?

How much do YOU pay for YOUR healthcare, Brian? Hmm?

Worried about someones foodstamps? LMAO. That's not even a drop in the bucket compared to the well over 700 BILLION those corporate goons recieved in one lump sum to bail their asses out after CREATING an economic catastrophe. You know, those "self-made" conservative Wall Street thugs that you worship.

Sorry, Gump- that's welfare.:lmao:

You are fucking DUMB, and I wouldn't let you NEAR a fucking checkbook.

BigBadBrian
04-16-2011, 06:46 AM
We say the same thing about you. Ironic, eh?



How much do YOU pay for YOUR healthcare, Brian? Hmm?

Worried about someones foodstamps? LMAO. That's not even a drop in the bucket compared to the well over 700 BILLION those corporate goons recieved in one lump sum to bail their asses out after CREATING an economic catastrophe. You know, those "self-made" conservative Wall Street thugs that you worship.

Sorry, Gump- that's welfare.:lmao:

You are fucking DUMB, and I wouldn't let you NEAR a fucking checkbook.

I don't believe you read the GOP Plan, did you Mr Shortbus?
You know, the part about ending corporate welfare done by both parties?
And yeah, I pay for my own healthcare. How about you? Or are you another private contractor that can't afford it? Hmm?

knuckleboner
04-16-2011, 06:24 PM
Planned Parenthood, founded by Margaret Sanger, didn't offer abortions when first founded.

Federal money should not be used to fund abortions.

By claiming conservatives want to hurt women's healthcare by defunding PP, the Democrat's are truly The Party of Fear and Ignorance.

technically, federal dollars are NOT used for abortions. federal law prohibits that already. planned parenthood also fundraises, and the entire amount of funds they use on abortions comes from their private fundraising.

BigBadBrian
04-17-2011, 08:15 AM
technically, federal dollars are NOT used for abortions. federal law prohibits that already. planned parenthood also fundraises, and the entire amount of funds they use on abortions comes from their private fundraising.

Technically that's correct, and a typical liberal talking point, but you don't actually believe that, do you?

PP doesn't actually seperate its funding into different categories of what they use it for. If PP gets rid of ALL abortion services then there is no debate and then EVERYONE would be for the program. Also, why doesn't PP provide services for males in this modern age?

Seshmeister
04-17-2011, 08:32 AM
Abortion lowers crime significantly.

It's in everyone's interest to pay for it.

Seshmeister
04-17-2011, 08:33 AM
That twit is supposed to be an american ??

The best stand up out there.

BigBadBrian
04-17-2011, 08:35 AM
Abortion lowers crime significantly.

It's in everyone's interest to pay for it.

No.

Here in the States most people are personally against it on moral grounds. Even most liberals are. Saying we should fund it so blacks and other inner city dwellers won't procreate and cause trouble is ridiculous. That IS what you're saying, right Sesh?

Seshmeister
04-17-2011, 09:12 AM
I'm saying that people who don't want a kid rarely make great parents and those kids will be stealing your car in 16 years time.

Fuck those who impose their 'morals' on other people, they should look to themselves first.

BigBadBrian
04-17-2011, 12:01 PM
I'm saying that people who don't want a kid rarely make great parents and those kids will be stealing your car in 16 years time.

Fuck those who impose their 'morals' on other people, they should look to themselves first.

Morals? Yes, I guess imposing morals is being done. Of course, that falls into the same category as outlawing rape or murder, which abortion is, of course.

How you can sleep at night, one wonders.

Kristy
04-17-2011, 12:03 PM
Morals? Yes, I guess imposing morals is being done. Of course, that falls into the same category as outlawing rape or murder, which abortion is, of course.

How you can sleep at night, one wonders.

Abortion isn't murder you brain washed idiot. Go back to sulking in your church pew and stay out of society's way.

Seshmeister
04-17-2011, 12:14 PM
Morals? Yes, I guess imposing morals is being done. Of course, that falls into the same category as outlawing rape or murder, which abortion is, of course.

How you can sleep at night, one wonders.

I don't know how so many Americans seem to find this so difficult, I think it's partly due to all the propaganda you see about the tiny of percentage abortions that are late but mainly due to being told what to think by the self appointed invisible sky daddy leaders.

It's a very simple issue, until the embryo is capable of surviving outside the mother it is part of the mother and it's not up to other people, usually superstitious men, to decide what she does with bits of her body.

BigBadBrian
04-17-2011, 12:21 PM
I don't know how so many Americans seem to find this so difficult, I think it's partly due to all the propaganda you see about the tiny of percentage abortions that are late but mainly due to being told what to think by the self appointed invisible sky daddy leaders.

It's a very simple issue, until the embryo is capable of surviving outside the mother it is part of the mother and it's not up to other people, usually superstitious men, to decide what she does with bits of her body.

Have you ever seen an ultrasound of a human baby 6 weeks post-inception? If you did, you'd never be so cavalier about abortion. Again, whatever helps you sleep at night with that attitude. :(

Seshmeister
04-17-2011, 12:24 PM
Of course I have seen plenty of ultrasounds over the years. I'm surprised you didn't think it was some sort of devils witchcraft though. :)

Have you ever seen your sperm through a microscope? Until the embryo is capable of surviving out with the woman it is a potential person, not a person.

In the same way you leave a million potential people on the arm of your sofa when you see Sarah Palin on TV in a tight dress... :)

Kristy
04-17-2011, 12:29 PM
Have you ever seen an ultrasound of a human baby 6 weeks post-inception?

Huh? What does that have to do with anything? You know what, fuck this, I'm not going down this road and taking on an argument with this fucking idiot.

binnie
04-17-2011, 12:38 PM
Sometimes when I read these threads I think that laws should be passed to allow abortion to be conducted retrospectively.

knuckleboner
04-17-2011, 08:27 PM
Technically that's correct, and a typical liberal talking point, but you don't actually believe that, do you?

PP doesn't actually seperate its funding into different categories of what they use it for. If PP gets rid of ALL abortion services then there is no debate and then EVERYONE would be for the program. Also, why doesn't PP provide services for males in this modern age?

dude, you make no sense. if it's correct (and it is) then, yes, i believe it.

the conservative talking point is that well, ok, they don’t get federal funds for abortions, but they get funds for other stuff, and if they didn’t get THOSE federal funds, they’d pull money from abortions to the OTHER stuff. that is a MUCH, MUCH greater leap of logic, considering that 3% of their operations are on abortions, than saying that federal funds don’t pay for abortions.

and who cares whether they cover men? not every nonprofit has to fund every single person in the world. that’s not the way it works.

Seshmeister
04-17-2011, 10:40 PM
The whole thing was stupid anyway and typical of what's wrong.

The tea party were supposedly about cutting government spending but actually they are just the same people on the right with a different hat. This was never about money, it's an utterly tiny tiny irrelevant amount of money yet the crying orange guy had to look tough to the tea party people who are weirdly obsessed with who strangers fuck, how they fuck them and what they do after fucking them.

BigBadBrian
04-18-2011, 09:13 AM
The whole thing was stupid anyway and typical of what's wrong.

The tea party were supposedly about cutting government spending but actually they are just the same people on the right with a different hat. This was never about money, it's an utterly tiny tiny irrelevant amount of money yet the crying orange guy had to look tough to the tea party people who are weirdly obsessed with who strangers fuck, how they fuck them and what they do after fucking them.

Your talking poiunts are straight out of the huffington post and other liberal blogs.

Seshmeister
04-18-2011, 09:15 AM
Never read it, I hear it has no proper editorial fact checking unlike my posts here. :)

FORD
04-18-2011, 12:22 PM
The Huffington Post used to be alright, but just like CNN, its quality began to drop the minute it was taken over by the right wing AOL. :(

Hardrock69
04-18-2011, 01:32 PM
BULLSHIT...more liberal lies. Federal dollars help fund Planned Parenthood and they are the nation's leading abortion provider. Federal money shouldn't fund this.

Federal money does not fund abortions.

Abortions through Planned Parenthood are funded by donations from private organizations, not the public sector.

Prove me wrong.

Hardrock69
04-18-2011, 01:36 PM
Bullshit...

Wow. Elvis is wearing a tinfoil hat these days. Whoda thunk? :biggrin:

Hardrock69
04-18-2011, 01:51 PM
Also, why doesn't PP provide services for males in this modern age?


Last I checked, smartboi, 'males' are unable to bear children. :hee:

Seshmeister
04-18-2011, 02:28 PM
The Huffington Post used to be alright, but just like CNN, its quality began to drop the minute it was taken over by the right wing AOL. :(

Even before then it published a lot of Oprah style woo woo stories.

It's got a terrible reputation in the science community.

Hardrock69
04-18-2011, 02:36 PM
OFFICIALLY ENDS THE “STIMULUS” SPENDING BINGE. The agreement begins to reverse the “stimulus” spending binge that began in 2009 – signaling the official end of a period of unprecedented government intervention that former Federal Reserve Board Chairman Alan Greenspan and other economists say hurt job creation in America by crowding out private investment.


Oh, so it would have created more jobs to let the major banking corporations of our country slide into insolvency, letting go everyone who works for them, and creating a financial crisis many times worse than the Great Depression.

Makes sense. Just like the Retardlicans always do. In their own delusional half-wit minds.



BANS TAXPAYER FUNDING OF ABORTION IN THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA. The agreement includes a complete ban on local and federal funding of abortion in the District of Columbia, applying the pro-life principles of the Hyde Amendment (“D.C. Hyde”).

Another non-issue. Abortions are not funded by taxpayer dollars. **YAAAWWWWWWNNNNnnnn* This is getting old. Mindless attacking of something that does not exist. Don Quixote anyone?



GUARANTEES SENATE VOTE & DEBATE ON DE-FUNDING PLANNED PARENTHOOD. The agreement with Senate Democrats guarantees a Senate debate and vote on legislation that would end federal funding for Planned Parenthood.


Oh, so this budget agreement requires wasting politicians' time and taxpayer money debating something that cannot hope to pass Congress.

How is it going to SAVE money? Elected representatives in Congress will continue to draw pay and benefits while spending days or weeks farting into the atmosphere, only to introduce legislation that will not pass, and that the President will not sign.

So how is that going to save money at all? It is only going to waste money.

And the fact that de-funding such social services as Planned Parenthood is the stated agenda of the Retardlicans only goes to show how inhumane, cruel, uncompassionate and EVIL they truly are.

As someone else pointed out.....why are the Retardlican's even pretending anymore?

Start rounding people up and sending them to kamps in boxcars.

Then have a giant Rally in Washington D.C. to celebrate the Dawn of the Fourth Reich!

SIEG HEIL!

http://i52.tinypic.com/oq9aqc.jpg

hideyoursheep
04-18-2011, 03:40 PM
I don't believe you read the GOP Plan, did you Mr Shortbus?
Read it? Hell we all live with it, even to this day. There's nothing new there. Just another attempt at regaining the White House with empty promises-relying heavily on the sad fact that (most) Americans have serious issues with short-term memory and will be willing to forget the past, no matter how much it still stings.


You know, the part about ending corporate welfare done by both parties? Right..."BOTH PARTIES"...except the Democratic plan didn't include EXTENDING Bush corpoate welfare disguised as "tax cuts.


And yeah, I pay for my own healthcare.
Good. Now we can get to brass tacks!

Without disclosing personal information, how much do you pay as far as premiums, co-pays and deductibles? You can leave out the name of the provider, that's not important.

I want to see how much of your nonsense is based on reality.:stirthepot:

Kristy
04-18-2011, 04:04 PM
Without disclosing personal information, how much do you pay as far as premiums, co-pays and deductibles? You can leave out the name of the provider, that's not important.

I want to see how much of your nonsense is based on reality.:stirthepot:

I wouldn't hold your breath. Chances are high he'll just copy & paste some figures from somewhere and, as usual, claim them as his own.

FORD
04-18-2011, 04:50 PM
The whole thing was stupid anyway and typical of what's wrong.

The tea party were supposedly about cutting government spending but actually they are just the same people on the right with a different hat. This was never about money, it's an utterly tiny tiny irrelevant amount of money yet the crying orange guy had to look tough to the tea party people who are weirdly obsessed with who strangers fuck, how they fuck them and what they do after fucking them.

The "tea party" is a wholly owned subsidiary of Koch Industries, Inc. What's worse is that the teabaggers are too goddamn stupid to even notice that these pieces of shit like Paul "Jockstrap" Ryan are proposing to raise THEIR taxes while further eliminating any taxes on the predatory rich tax dodgers.

hideyoursheep
04-18-2011, 05:20 PM
I wouldn't hold your breath. Chances are high he'll just copy & paste some figures from somewhere and, as usual, claim them as his own.

My plan is to light his strawman on fire with the flame of truth.:)

hambon4lif
04-18-2011, 05:37 PM
My plan is to light his strawman on fire with the flame of truth.:)Strictly for amusement purposes, I'm interested in Brie's response. Even though I know those questions would be better answered by an actual adult, and not some overgrown child that still lives with 'mommy'.

That poor womans life must be a living hell.

hideyoursheep
04-18-2011, 05:43 PM
Strictly for amusement purposes, I'm interested in Brie's response.

See Brian? The world is waiting.

You should be happy to walk through this with me.

It will be painless...unless you lie.

jhale667
04-18-2011, 05:45 PM
Huh? What does that have to do with anything? You know what, fuck this, I'm not going down this road and taking on an argument with this fucking idiot.

More to the point, why do guys sit around and argue about it? Brie doesn't have a uterus (though he IS a mangina), he'll never have to make the most difficult decision a woman will ever have to make, nor SHOULD HE OR ANYONE WITHOUT A FUCKING UTERUS HAVE ANY SAY IN THE MATTER. It's between a woman and her doctor - and the invisible sky daddy if she chooses to believe in him. NOT assholes like Brie.


So in other words, STFU, Brie. :dafinger:

hideyoursheep
04-18-2011, 05:55 PM
Brian should adopt all those "unwanted" fetuses...or is it "feti"?

Assuming they were all unwanted, of course. Some may have been medically necessary. Who knows? I know I don't, and I don't think Brian does, either.

Seshmeister
04-18-2011, 06:53 PM
If there is one thing the planet isn't short of it's new humans.

ELVIS
04-18-2011, 11:23 PM
It's pretty short of humans that can think for themselves...

FORD
04-19-2011, 12:23 AM
....especially in the "red" states.

ELVIS
04-19-2011, 12:30 AM
You think so ??

FORD
04-19-2011, 12:35 AM
The fact that they continue to vote for the pieces of shit who have destroyed this country for three decades, and allow themselves to be distracted by ridiculous "wedge issues" (gay marriage, abortion, etc) while voting directly AGAINST their own economic interests, pretty much proves it to be true.

ELVIS
04-19-2011, 12:40 AM
Well, you voted for Uncle Otoma...

FORD
04-19-2011, 12:52 AM
Well, you voted for Uncle Otoma...

Yes I did. Primarily because he campaigned as a Democrat, on a platform that WAS compatible with the peoples' economic interests, though he's obviously not lived up to it. But preventing an idiot like Sarah Palin from occupying the White House was reason enough (Let's face it, McCain - himself definitely NOT the guy he was in 2000 - would not have survived a term as President, and the COUNTRY wouldn't have survived a term with Palin)

ELVIS
04-19-2011, 12:54 AM
Like I said before...

Obama played you libs like a fiddle...

Check your bleeding heart at the door next time...


:elvis:

FORD
04-19-2011, 01:11 AM
My "bleeding heart" tells me that the REAL best hope this country had was stolen in the 2004 Iowa caucus :(

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_DiyxVzBLalc/R8XqaV7k7LI/AAAAAAAABug/kdMuTZJp8Ls/s320/799px-Howard_Dean_declaration_of_candidacy_June_2003.jpg

Hardrock69
04-19-2011, 01:12 AM
Like I said before...

Obama played you libs like a fiddle...


Ahh no. If anyone is playing their constituents like a fiddle, it is the Right-Wing Fascist Retardlicans.

Obama would have been able to actually accomplish more to help America, but certain parties (like the Retardlicans) want to destroy America, so he has not been able to accomplish as much as he had hoped due to the Ignorant Ones' interference.

ELVIS
04-19-2011, 01:23 AM
Ahh no. If anyone is playing their constituents like a fiddle, it is the Right-Wing Fascist Retardlicans.

Obama would have been able to actually accomplish more to help America, but certain parties (like the Retardlicans) want to destroy America, so he has not been able to accomplish as much as he had hoped due to the Ignorant Ones' interference.

That's totally idiotic...

Even the former Obama supporters will tell you that...

BigBadBrian
04-19-2011, 03:56 AM
I wouldn't hold your breath. Chances are high he'll just copy & paste some figures from somewhere and, as usual, claim them as his own.

No. Unlike you, I always put a link when posting a news story or op-ed. Try to find one thing where I passed someone elses's work as mine. You can't.

Whore, all you do is change the words around a little from the crap you "borrow."

BigBadBrian
04-19-2011, 06:10 AM
See Brian? The world is waiting.


How about I post my income tax return and bank statements as well? Then I'll post some pics of your old lady tuning my organ. :biggrin:

BigBadBrian
04-19-2011, 06:18 AM
MYTH VS. FACT: The Bipartisan Agreement to Cut Spending to Support Job Creation
Posted by Speaker Boehner Press Office on April 13, 2011
MYTH: "Most of the cuts in the agreement aren't real cuts. Many are cuts that were already scheduled to happen, and were proposed in the president's budget."

The spending cuts in the legislation are real cuts that help to clear a path for Chairman Paul Ryan’s landmark Path to Prosperity budget. The agreement includes a gross spending cut of nearly $45 billion -- a net spending cut of nearly $40 billion, as a result of the $5 billion increase for the Defense Department that Speaker Boehner fought for and won. Democrats accurately note that some of the spending cuts in the agreement were proposed in the president’s budget, but disingenuously fail to note that many of those cuts were used in the president’s budget to offset additional or new spending elsewhere. In the context of the agreement, those cuts are now real cuts – chopping billions of dollars off the baseline, rather than being used to offset other Washington spending sought by the administration. As Chairman Ryan said Tuesday, the agreement "[secures] tens of billions of dollars in spending cuts, forcing the President and his party’s leaders to retreat from their reckless spending spree. The historic spending cut turns the page from Washington’s pervasive culture of spending, sending a welcome signal to job creators and cleaning up the unprecedented budget mess left by the last Congress."

MYTH: "President Obama got most of what he wanted."

The agreement is imperfect, but it’s hardly a “win” for President Obama or the Democratic Party agenda of bigger government and increased spending. As a result of the agreement, the federal government will spend $78.5 billion less than President Obama proposed spending this year. The agreement eliminates one Obamacare program, cuts a second nearly in half, and eliminates four of the Obama Administration’s controversial “czars” – including the president’s health czar charged with overseeing his government takeover of health care, his auto czar responsible for managing the federal government’s takeover of U.S. auto manufacturers, and his climate change czar tasked with implementing the president’s job-crushing national energy tax. The agreement secures Senate votes and debate on de-funding of two presidential priorities – Obamacare and Planned Parenthood – while saving the successful D.C. school choice program Democrats have been trying to eliminate for years.

MYTH: "The cuts in the agreement will have no impact on the long-term trajectory of government spending."

The agreement will chop an estimated $315 billion out of the federal budget over the next 10 years, setting the table for Chairman Paul Ryan's Path to Prosperity budget, which cuts trillions. The notion that cuts in mandatory spending are not "real" cuts is a potentially lethal misconception for conservatives to accept. Dramatic reductions in both discretionary and mandatory (“autopilot”) spending are essential to help reduce uncertainty in our economy and create a better environment for job growth, and the agreement makes historic cuts in both types of spending -- just months after President Obama and his Democratic allies in Congress called for zero cuts and claimed spending cuts would hurt the economy.

MYTH: "The agreement is just more of the same. It doesn't really signal any kind of shift in the direction of our government."

While imperfect, the agreement marks the beginning of a major shift in economic policy – a shift that defined clearly by the GOP budget for which it sets the table, Chairman Ryan’s Path to Prosperity. As late as a few months ago, President Obama was calling for zero spending cuts, clinging to his trademark Keynesian arguments and insisting that spending cuts would hurt the economy. With the agreement, the White House has unceremoniously abandoned that "stimulus" argument. Liberals have slammed President Obama for the agreement, noting it means the White House has, in effect, admitted the "stimulus" spending binge is over. "Princeton University professor Paul Krugman noted that by agreeing to this level of budget cuts, Obama had accepted the premise that the economy has recovered enough to withstand the withdrawal of federal spending. Despite the fragile economic recovery, the economy is still not strong enough, Krugman argued," according to Politico. And it's notable that the agreement includes zero earmarks – a stark contrast to two years ago, when President Obama accommodated a Democratic House and Senate and signed into law a massive omnibus spending bill containing an estimated 9,000 earmarks.

MYTH: "The agreement really only cuts about $14 billion in spending. Most of the cuts are from non-discretionary spending, which doesn't change the baseline."

Discretionary spending cuts account for more than half of the nearly $45 billion in gross spending cuts that are made in the agreement. As previously noted, the agreement will chop an estimated $315 billion out of the federal budget over the next 10 years, setting the table for Chairman Paul Ryan's Path to Prosperity budget, which cuts trillions. The notion that cuts in mandatory spending are not "real" cuts is a potentially lethal misconception for anyone to accept. Dramatic reductions in both discretionary and mandatory (“autopilot”) spending are essential to help reduce uncertainty in our economy and create a better environment for job growth, and the agreement makes historic cuts in both types of spending -- just months after President Obama and his Democratic allies in Congress called for zero cuts and claimed spending cuts would hurt the economy.

MYTH: "The provisions eliminating President Obama's 'czars' for health care, climate change and other topics are meaningless. The administration has already vacated these posts or scheduled them for elimination."

The agreement means these posts won't be coming back -- good news for Americans discomforted by the Obama Administration's agenda of government takeovers and bailouts. And perhaps more importantly, the provisions establish a precedent that Congress can deny the president funding for such positions -- effectively challenging their constitutionality.

MYTH: "The agreement is a win for President Obama because it includes a mix of discretionary spending cuts and mandatory spending cuts, rather than just discretionary spending cuts."

The bill passed by the House in February, H.R. 1, also included mandatory spending cuts. Like H.R. 1, the agreement makes real cuts in discretionary spending and includes no tax increases. After initially opposing any spending cuts, the White House and Congressional Democrats abandoned that position during negotiations and tried to cut their losses by demanding tax increases and trying to prevent virtually any cuts to discretionary spending. Republican negotiators rebuffed this gambit and forced the White House to accept an agreement with a mix of cuts from both discretionary and mandatory spending programs, and zero tax hikes. As noted previously, dramatic reductions in both discretionary and mandatory spending are needed to help reduce uncertainty in our economy and create a better environment for job growth. The agreement makes historic cuts in both types of spending -- just months after President Obama and his Democratic allies in Congress called for zero cuts and claimed spending cuts would hurt the economy.

MYTH: "The agreement just nicks a few programs; it doesn't actually eliminate anything."

The agreement terminates more than 40 ineffective programs at the U.S. Department of Education alone, including Educational Technology State Grants, Even Start, Advanced Credentialing, Mental Health Integration, Exchanges with Historic Whaling Partners, Women’s Educational Equity, Tech-Prep Education State Grants, Smaller Learning Communities, Legal Assistance Loan Repayment Program, Thurgood Marshall Legal Opportunity Scholarships, and B.J. Stupak Olympic Scholarships. For a full list of federal programs that are cut or eliminated by the agreement, go here. The bill also eliminates the ability of students to draw down two Pell Grant awards at the same time, saving an additional $35 billion over the next 10 years.

* UPDATED 4/14/11 - 10:40 AM *

MYTH: “The CBO says this bill only cuts $352 million in spending this year.”

FACT: Despite misleading reports to the contrary, H.R. 1473 cuts nearly $40 billion in spending. This means the federal government will spend $78.5 billion less than what the President requested for 2011. Over ten years, the bill saves taxpayers an estimated $315 billion. The confusion is over the terms used by the CBO – and how they’ve been mangled by liberals determined to keep their spending binge alive. Democrats are spinning a number referred to as budget “outlays” – or how quickly money is spent – to claim the cuts are smaller than they are. But in appropriations bills, Congress determines “budget authority,” or how much to actually put in federal bank accounts. This is the number that matters: the only way an agency can spend money is if Congress fills up its account (provides “budget authority”); here, Congress is taking away tens of billions of dollars. By any reasonable standard, taking money away from someone so they can’t spend it is a cut – in this case, a cut of nearly $40 billion. Read “Budget Confusion” by The Weekly Standard for more

BigBadBrian
04-19-2011, 06:21 AM
So in other words, STFU, Brie. :dafinger:

Nope!

Your mama... :doggystyle:

jhale667
04-19-2011, 10:09 AM
Nope!

Your mama... :

Yours calls me "daddy", likes to be slapped on the ass, and makes me breakfast before she leaves in the AM. She also said "My son's an asshole!" But tell her to stop calling me, willya? :wow2:

Guitar Shark
04-19-2011, 12:05 PM
Dollars to donuts, Brian's health care is paid for by the government.

Kristy
04-19-2011, 06:22 PM
Brian should adopt all those "unwanted" fetuses...or is it "feti"?

See that's a good point in that those who cry fowl and murder when it comes to abortion are also the ones turning tail and running when it comes to care of the newborn child. They'll see it as a State matter yet at the same whine against any funding to look after that child's welfare hoping that the adoption system with make it all go away. Personally, being the owner of a womb myself do I ever sit on the fence of feminism when it comes to a woman's choice - in a lot of cases the man has just as much right in the decision as well provided he is around to make it.

What I don't get is why so many of you continue to take his bait like you do. What our dear Brain represents to me is a idiot happy blessed in his perpetual ignorance. It's more than obvious he enjoys letting others think and speak for him only occasionally to stick his fat neck out with catch words like "liberal" and "feeble" as if he invented them. His pathetic life to me is much like the allegorical story of the Buddha who lives most of his life so sheltered that if ever did have to live in the outside world it would probably kill him.

binnie
04-19-2011, 06:26 PM
Brian may be many things, but he's not stupid.

Sometimes I think he just enjoys baiting everyone......

Guitar Shark
04-19-2011, 06:31 PM
Brian may be many things, but he's not stupid.

Sometimes I think he just enjoys baiting everyone......

I don't think those are mutually exclusive possibilities.

Dr. Love
04-19-2011, 09:59 PM
Brian may be many things, but he's not stupid.

Sometimes I think he just enjoys baiting everyone......

http://eseanews.com/global/media_preview.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.starcraf tmazter.net%2F4chan%2Ffor_forums%2Ftrolling.png

Brian is a silly troll. Take into account the scope of what he posts and the blatant contradictions and you are left with one of three choices:

1. He's dumb
2. Oh the ironicy
3. He's trolling

Or, as Bob Saget suggests, a combination of the above.

BigBadBrian
04-20-2011, 09:43 AM
Brian is a silly troll..

Yet you KKKristy, lamebone, gutter shark, DumbAsARock, and other intellectually weak liberals can be made to dance any time I pull your strings. At least FORD and knuckleboner actually put forth points I would consider an honest attempt to debate, even if they're usually misguided. Even kkkwame and jhale sprinkle their insults with actual debate once in awhile.

Oh yeah, Doc: remember when you said the Gub'ment did a great job handling things, such as Air Control? Guess you didn't know those boys were asleep when you were coming in for a landing on the Redeye, huh? :biggrin:

BigBadBrian
04-20-2011, 09:52 AM
Dollars to donuts, Brian's health care is paid for by the government.

I've got a great healthcare deal in my benefit package at work, I must confess. Thanks for your concern.

BTW dealing with Medicare (along with private insurance) at work as much as I do, it WOULD be a decent (not great... but adequate) thing for the govt to have private insurers model their programs on if they could only find a way to pay for it all without raising everyone's tax rate by 35%. People also forget Medicare recipients pay 20% of everything Medicare covers. That gets expensive for older people.

Kristy
04-20-2011, 10:52 AM
Yet you KKKristy...

"KKKristy"? "Gutter Shark"? "DumbAsARock"? Well, no one can debate your intellect simply because many here have passed the third grade years ago. If only we were on your level we might have a chance.

Oh, and I'm no liberal. Now clean up your room before mother comes home.

Guitar Shark
04-20-2011, 11:48 AM
Yet you KKKristy, lamebone, gutter shark, DumbAsARock, and other intellectually weak liberals can be made to dance any time I pull your strings. At least FORD and knuckleboner actually put forth points I would consider an honest attempt to debate, even if they're usually misguided. Even kkkwame and jhale sprinkle their insults with actual debate once in awhile.


I love that in the first sentence of this post you admit to trolling, but you then follow it up by complaining that few people take you seriously enough to engage you in "actual debate." Ah, the ironicy.

hambon4lif
04-20-2011, 12:17 PM
It's a positive thing, ultimately.

Kristy and BigBadBrainless, no matter how much they despise each other, can agree on their opinion of me. To represent that common ground between two completely different people....is actually kinda cool.

It restores my faith in humanity....sort of.

hideyoursheep
04-20-2011, 08:52 PM
How about I post my income tax return and bank statements as well? Then I'll post some pics of your old lady tuning my organ. :biggrin: I didn't ask you for your income tax return-assuming you actually have a job. Who the fuck would hire you? You're dumb.


I've got a great healthcare deal in my benefit package at work, I must confess. Thanks for your concern. I'm not concerned. You wanna be a pussy, fine. Avoid answering with any sliver of honesty. Nice move for someone who wants to be taken seriously. Keep fucking around with the "old lady" comments and you're gonna be using that insurance. :baaa: (no emoticon for butt-pirate)


Dollars to donuts, Brian's health care is paid for by the government.

I believe he mentioned somewhere that he hurt his back picking up cock in the Navy and was on some sort of disability...but that could be another troll....I'ts hard to keep track of them all.





See Brian, I tried my best to have an adult conversation with you, and -once again- you put the dick on it.

You may now resume fucking yourself.

Dr. Love
04-20-2011, 09:02 PM
Yet you KKKristy, lamebone, gutter shark, DumbAsARock, and other intellectually weak liberals can be made to dance any time I pull your strings. At least FORD and knuckleboner actually put forth points I would consider an honest attempt to debate, even if they're usually misguided. Even kkkwame and jhale sprinkle their insults with actual debate once in awhile.

Oh yeah, Doc: remember when you said the Gub'ment did a great job handling things, such as Air Control? Guess you didn't know those boys were asleep when you were coming in for a landing on the Redeye, huh? :biggrin:

http://www.roflcorner.com/wp-content/gallery/facepalm/jesus-facepalm-facepalm-jesus-epic-demotivational-poster-1218659828.jpg

I'm not sure what's more embarassing... your laughably contradictory statements, your trolling skills, or the idea that you think you're good at it.

BigBadBrian
04-21-2011, 06:16 AM
I'm not sure what's more embarassing... your laughably contradictory statements, your trolling skills, or the idea that you think you're good at it.

Made you dance, didn't I Pinocchio?

http://www.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://www.fantasiescometrue.com/images/medium/fct_a39e5ff862f9add.jpg&sa=X&ei=HgSwTayNNqX40gHP87jdDw&ved=0CAQQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNE7AxRnC-t2Hicnzdi5cEyA09_ovw

BigBadBrian
04-21-2011, 06:25 AM
I didn't ask you for your income tax return-assuming you actually have a job. Who the fuck would hire you? You're dumb. No, I can hear fine. The word you're looking for is "stupid," stupid!


I'm not concerned. You wanna be a pussy, fine. Avoid answering with any sliver of honesty. Nice move for someone who wants to be taken seriously. Keep fucking around with the "old lady" comments and you're gonna be using that insurance. :baaa: (no emoticon for butt-pirate)

http://www.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu328/zerosignal/francis.jpg&sa=X&ei=mQSwTeS0IMLIgQernOGMDA&ved=0CAQQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNE9tD5XdGbNd3o9iiFTVtMppXrAVg


I believe he mentioned somewhere that he hurt his back picking up cock in the Navy and was on some sort of disability...but that could be another troll....I'ts hard to keep track of them all.

No, my back is fine. My knees are hurting lately, though. Gotta lay off the squats and leg presses at the gym for awhile, I guess. Again, thanks for asking! Tell your old lady I said hello!

BigBadBrian
04-21-2011, 07:03 AM
Oh, and I'm no liberal.

You are...you're just too stupid to realize it. :gulp:

Dr. Love
04-21-2011, 08:58 AM
Made you dance, didn't I Pinocchio?

http://www.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://www.fantasiescometrue.com/images/medium/fct_a39e5ff862f9add.jpg&sa=X&ei=HgSwTayNNqX40gHP87jdDw&ved=0CAQQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNE7AxRnC-t2Hicnzdi5cEyA09_ovw

No, but I can see why you cling so hard to the idea; After so much futile effort, it's no surprise that you grasp for anything to call a win.

Maybe someday you'll get the skills to run with the big boys.

Guitar Shark
04-21-2011, 12:09 PM
I believe he mentioned somewhere that he hurt his back picking up cock in the Navy and was on some sort of disability...but that could be another troll....I'ts hard to keep track of them all.


I remember him saying that he was on disability too.