Can Texas - or any other state - secede from the Union?

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  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 58785

    Can Texas - or any other state - secede from the Union?

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  • Dr. Love
    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
    • Jan 2004
    • 7832

    #2
    The answer is yes, as long as they can convince the US not to attack them to stop it, or if they can beat the US military.
    I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

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    • VanHalener
      ROCKSTAR

      • Nov 2006
      • 5451

      #3
      I seceded from the union long ago. Dave split, Van Halen took on that fag Hagar, and I was pissed off.

      Sammy Hagar is responsible for all the worldly unrest and should be fed to cannibals when they get up for breakfast.

      As far as Texas goes...God help us all if they pull that shit. That would cause a huge clusterfuck of mayhem in America.
      Last edited by VanHalener; 04-09-2011, 10:53 PM.
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      • Blaze
        Full Member Status

        • Jan 2009
        • 4371

        #4
        Q: Did the terms of Texas's admission to the Union include permission to withdraw if it found statehood not to its liking?

        It is said of Texas (and, occasionally, Vermont) that it received a letter or document of permission to withdraw from the Federal Union if it so chose. In the case of Texas, this permission is sometimes said to have been granted at the time of Texas's admission as a state. Other times it is said to have been included in the terms readmitting Texas to the Union after the Civil War.

        In fact, Texas received no special terms in its admission to the Union. Once Texas had agreed to join the Union, she never had the legal option of leaving, either before or after the Civil War.

        The early years of the United States had seen a great deal of debate over whether states could, in fact, legally withdraw from the Union. During the War of 1812 it was New England that wanted to secede from the rest of the country. Later, it was the Southern states. Secessionists argued that states were sovereign and had the right to withdraw from the Union. Opponents countered that the Constitution created a sovereign union that, once entered into, could never be broken. Eventually, the question was put to the test and settled permanently on the battlefields of the Civil War.

        The Presidential Proclamation declaring peace between the United States and Texas after the Civil War, dated August 20, 1866, states very clearly in the following passage that no state had the right to leave the Union (emphasis added in all capitals):

        And whereas,
        the President of the United States, by further proclamation issued on the second day of April, one thousand eight hundred and sixty-six, did promulgate and declare, that there no longer existed any armed resistance of misguided citizens, or others, to the authority of the United States in any, or in all the States before mentioned, excepting only the State of Texas, and did further promulgate and declare that the laws could be sustained and enforced in the several States before mentioned, except Texas, by the proper civil authorities, State, or Federal, and that the people of the said States, except Texas, are well and loyally disposed, and have conformed or will conform in their legislation to the condition of affairs growing out of the amendment to the Constitution of the United States, prohibiting slavery within the limits and jurisdiction of the United States;

        And did further declare in the same proclamation THAT IT IS THE MANIFEST DETERMINATION OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT NO STATE, OF ITS OWN WILL, HAS A RIGHT OR POWER TO GO OUT OF OR SEPARATE ITSELF FROM, OR BE SEPARATED FROM THE AMERICAN UNION; and that, therefore, each State ought to remain and constitute an integral part of the United States;

        On March 30, 1870, Congress passed the Act to admit the State of Texas to Representation in the Congress of the United States. Likewise, this act contains no language that would allow Texas to unilaterally withdraw from the United States.

        "I have heard there are troubles of more than one kind. - Some come from ahead and some come from behind. - But I've bought a big bat. I'm all ready you see. - Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!" ~ Dr. Seuss
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        • chefcraig
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Apr 2004
          • 12172

          #5
          I've dreamed of this taking place for years. I just want to be standing someplace in Georgia when it happens.


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          • sadaist
            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
            • Jul 2004
            • 11625

            #6
            Originally posted by chefcraig
            I've dreamed of this taking place for years. I just want to be standing someplace in Georgia when it happens.


            <a href="http://www.gifbin.com/981588"><img src="http://www.gifbin.com/bin/florida.gif" alt="funny gifs" /></a>


            OMFG! Hilarious!

            If you look really close at bugs, right as Florida floats away, he holds his arms up in victory.

            HOORAY!!
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            • Nitro Express
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Aug 2004
              • 32798

              #7
              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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              • Nitro Express
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 32798

                #8
                Florida is America's penis.
                No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                • chefcraig
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 12172

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Nitro Express
                  Florida is America's penis.
                  Golly, aren't you the original one.









                  “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                  ― Stephen Hawking

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                  • Nitro Express
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 32798

                    #10
                    Originally posted by chefcraig
                    Golly, aren't you the original one.
                    Arizona is America's vagina because it has that big deep canyon. I guess that makes Yuma America's asshole.
                    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                    • Nitro Express
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 32798

                      #11
                      I friend of mine said he hated to eat pussy because it tasted like shit. I told him he was taking too big of bites.
                      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                      • hambon4lif
                        Crazy Ass Mofo
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 2810

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Nitro Express
                        I friend of mine said he hated to eat pussy because it tasted like shit. I told him he was taking too big of bites.
                        That's some fucked-up advice to give your friend...who bites pussy?

                        Besides, if he's confusing asshole with pussy, he's got bigger issues to deal with that are beyond help...

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                        • Nitro Express
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 32798

                          #13
                          Originally posted by hambon4lif
                          That's some fucked-up advice to give your friend...who bites pussy?

                          Besides, if he's confusing asshole with pussy, he's got bigger issues to deal with that are beyond help...
                          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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