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Seshmeister
06-27-2011, 06:21 AM
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/US/06/26/florida.tsa.incident/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

(CNN) -- The Transportation Security Administration stood by its security officers Sunday after a Florida woman complained that her cancer-stricken, 95-year-old mother was patted down and forced to remove her adult diaper while going through security.
Reports of the incident took hold in social media, with scores of comments on the topic and reposts appearing hourly on Twitter Sunday afternoon.

The TSA released a statement Sunday defending its agents' actions at the Northwest Florida Regional Airport.

"While every person and item must be screened before entering the secure boarding area, TSA works with passengers to resolve security alarms in a respectful and sensitive manner," the federal agency said. "We have reviewed the circumstances involving this screening and determined that our officers acted professionally and according to proper procedure."

Jean Weber told CNN's Fredricka Whitfield on Sunday that the security officers may have been procedurally correct, but she still does not believe they were justified, especially given her mother's frail condition.

"If this is your procedure -- which I do understand -- I also feel that your procedure needs to be changed," she said.

Weber said the two were traveling June 18 from northwest Florida to Michigan, so her mother could move in with relatives before eventually going to an assisted living facility.

"My mother is very ill, she has a form of leukemia," Weber said. "She had a blood transfusion the week before, just to bolster up her strength for this travel."
While going through security, the 95-year-old was taken by a TSA officer into a glassed-in area, where a pat-down was performed, Weber said. An agent told Weber "they felt something suspicious on (her mother's) leg and they couldn't determine what it was" -- leading them to take her into a private, closed room.

Soon after, Weber said, a TSA agent came out and told her that her mother's Depend undergarment was "wet and it was firm, and they couldn't check it thoroughly." The mother and daughter left to find a bathroom, at the TSA officer's request, to take off the adult diaper.
Weber said she burst into tears during the ordeal, forcing her own pat-down and other measures in accordance with TSA protocol. But she said her mother, a nurse for 65 years, "was very calm" despite being bothered by the fact that she had to go through the airport without underwear.

Eventually, Weber said she asked for her mother to be whisked away to the boarding gate without her, because their plane was scheduled to leave in two minutes and Weber was still going through security.

By this weekend, the 95-year-old woman -- who was not identified by name -- was doing "fine" in Michigan, where her niece and her family "was treating her like royalty because they love her so much."

"My mother is a trouper," Weber said.

This is not the first time that the TSA's pat-downs of passengers have come under fire, nor the first time that the agency has rallied behind its officers and policy.
Last year, the administration announced it was ramping up the use of full-body scanning and pat-downs to stop nonmetallic threats, including explosives, from getting on planes. The goal is to head off attacks such as the one allegedly attempted in Christmas 2009 by Umar Farouk AbdulMutallab, who allegedly had a bomb sewn into his underwear on a flight from the Netherlands to Michigan.
The TSA estimates that only 3% of passengers are subjected to pat-downs -- and then only after they have set off a metal detector or declined to step into a full-body scanner. Yet the new policy has triggered an uproar online and in airports, from a relatively small but vocal number of travelers who feel their rights and privacy were being violated.
But the federal safety agency hasn't backed down, making some adjustments but no major changes to its policy.

"Every traveler is a critical partner in TSA's efforts to keep our skies safe," Administrator John Pistole, who ordered the new approach, said last fall. "And I know and appreciate that the vast majority of Americans recognize and respect the important work we do."

More recently, outrage erupted over a video-recorded pat-down of a 6-year-old passenger last April at New Orleans' airport. The video, which was posted on YouTube, shows the girl protesting the search by a female security officer at first, though she complies quietly while it is underway.
Pistole addressed this controversy at a Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee meeting last week, explaining the pat-down was ordered because the child had moved while passing through a body imaging machine. He told committee members that "we have changed the policy (so) that there'll be repeated efforts made to resolve that without a pat-down."
The next day, TSA spokesman Greg Soule said that the new policy -- which will apply to children age 12 and younger -- is in the process of being rolled out. It will give security officers "more options," but does not eliminate pat-downs as one of them.

"This decision will ultimately reduce -- though not eliminate -- pat-downs," Soule said.

Seshmeister
06-27-2011, 06:23 AM
I've said it before but all we need is one terrorist to get caught with a stick of dynamite up his ass and it's routine internal examinations for everyone.

FORD
06-27-2011, 11:55 AM
I've said it before but all we need is one terrorist to get caught with a stick of dynamite up his ass and it's routine internal examinations for everyone.

That was pretty much Thom Hartmann's argument, when the Chertoff porno scanners and grope searches were first rolled out.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltjMQYgykLs

sadaist
06-27-2011, 12:15 PM
Profiling works. We should use it.

Jagermeister
06-27-2011, 12:26 PM
Profiling works. We should use it.

I agree. The only people who are against it are those who fear they may be profiled.

I have nothing to fear.

jhale667
06-27-2011, 12:33 PM
I have nothing to fear.

Until the terra-ists start recruiting more Adam Gahan-type white douchebags, at least... :lmao:

FORD
06-27-2011, 12:59 PM
Adam Pearlman is no more a member of Al Qaeda than I am, but it does raise the question of what basis you would "profile" on.

All Muslims? I'm sure Congressman Keith Ellison would have a problem with that.

Any brown skinned person? Yeah right.... might as well have the LAPD training the TSA.

Anybody with an "Arabic" sounding name? Let's not forget that the origin of all Muslim people is from Abraham's son Ishmael and his mother Hagar. And while the thought of Spammy subjected to a full body cavity search any time he boards an airplane might be amusing, the thought of him writing a song about the experience is extremely horrifying. :headlights:

Bottom line is this all bullshit. Want to stop "terrorism"?? Stop giving people reasons to BE terrorists.

Seshmeister
06-27-2011, 05:16 PM
I think we can safely exclude 95 year olds in wheelchairs with cancer who have passed the metal detector from having their shit filled diapers examined.

Nitro Express
06-27-2011, 07:12 PM
A lot of this TSA nonsense would come to a quick end if Obama decided to do something about it. People complain and he does nothing.

Nitro Express
06-27-2011, 07:17 PM
That was pretty much Thom Hartmann's argument, when the Chertoff porno scanners and grope searches were first rolled out.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltjMQYgykLs

I would love to grab Michael Chertoff and lock him in one of his scanning machines and just leave the thing on for hours. Enjoy your safe radiation Mike.

Nickdfresh
06-27-2011, 07:49 PM

kwame k
06-27-2011, 10:19 PM
I think we can safely exclude 95 year olds in wheelchairs with cancer who have passed the metal detector from having their shit filled diapers examined.

Jesus tap dancing Christ.........can someone @ TSA use even an ounce of common sense!

Blaze
06-28-2011, 12:22 AM
Well, look right here. TSA (Touch Some Ass) beat me to my funny. o0

bueno bob
06-28-2011, 02:37 AM
A lot of this TSA nonsense would come to a quick end if Obama decided to do something about it. People complain and he does nothing.

LMAO

The Republicans would shit themselves at the field day THAT would give them. I can hear that shitstorm right now...

"HOW WILL WE EVER DEFEND OURSELVES AGAINST THE TERRORISTS????"
"OBAMA IS UNAMERICAN!!! HE'S A TALIBAN SUPPORTER!!!"
"THAT DAMN KENYAN IS DOING THIS TO RUIN THE ECONOMY!!!"
"HE'S PUTTING OUR FREEDOM AT RISK!!!"

Et-fucking-cetera, et-fucking-cetera, on and on and on and on and on and....oh, but I'm sure YOU would approve? Call me crazy, but after three years of reading your Obama-related posts, my guess is you'd find a good reason to criticize him over it. Can't say why, maybe just a feeling I have.

In any regards, here's a BETTER solution - keep some minimal security measures in place and get our ASSES out of other countries affairs. Maybe as soon as we call off the war on everybody NOT like us, other countries wouldn't feel so obligated to resort to demonstrations of violence against civilians in order to MAKE A FUCKING POINT. Ha! Look at 9-11 and the FUCKING IGNORANCE about the reasons behind that! After all this time, all those lives, and most of America doesn't even know why it happened, other than the Fox News talking points "Well, they're terrorists and they hate our freedom!"(c).

BULLSHIT!

You wanna blame ANYBODY for the bullshit regulations in place, don't fucking blame Obama - blame the climate of fucking fear that's been spread wholesale to people via the Republican fear-mongering crock of shit vomit machine in conjunction with Fox News. Blame the Michelle Bachmann's and Sarah Palin's for spreading the notion that ignorance is a truly American trait to be proud of and something to EXPECT and DESIRE out of your leaders. Blame the old school nincompoops like John McCain who are so set in their ways and so "educated" that they can't learn a damn thing from anybody and continually change their line of shit to fit whichever way the wind blows EVEN WHEN CONFRONTED WITH THEIR OWN WORDS. Blame the media when they publicly execute talented, intelligent, driven leaders WHO WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE like Howard Dean and Al Gore for comedic effect. Blame anybody with a burning passion for the rights of the lesser folk for not being "Business Minded" to "Restore the Economy". Blame Anthony Weiner for showing his to girls online and crucify him in contrast to ANY effect it ever had on his job performance while you at the same time ignore any REAL news going on in the world.

Or just....blame Obama. I guess one's a LOT easier on the brain than the other.

Nitro Express
06-28-2011, 03:09 AM
I never was an Obama fan. He always seemed like a fake riding a big wave of media induced euphoria. I thought it was sad that the whole America's first black president thing was being exploited by big corporate backers to get what they wanted. Maybe Obama was played himself or he willingly went along with it. Who knows. Anyways, these corporate shit heads are masters at playing the Republicans and Democrats and playing them off of each other. They own the media hook line and sinker and can create any image they damn well choose. I think people are starting to wake up to it.

To be honest. I don't think Obama knew what was in the healthcare bill either. I doubt he read it. He's got a whole staff of corporate insiders running things for him. I don't care what party you vote for, Goldman Sachs seems to be entrenched in both of them.

Nitro Express
06-28-2011, 03:15 AM
Well, look right here. TSA (Touch Some Ass) beat me to my funny. o0

They like to touch 95 year old ass in depends. :barf: