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FORD
07-31-2011, 02:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btdhrY9plGg

standin
07-31-2011, 02:33 PM
Here's the text for the 20 23 24 events we've enumerated so far:

http://cdn.crooksandliars.com/files/vfs/2011/03/TerrorMap.JPG


-- July 2008: A gunman named Jim David Adkisson, agitated at how "liberals" are "destroying America," walks into a Unitarian Church and opens fire, killing two churchgoers and wounding four others.

-- October 2008: Two neo-Nazis are arrested in Tennessee in a plot to murder dozens of African-Americans, culminating in the assassination of President Obama.

-- December 2008: A pair of "Patriot" movement radicals -- the father-son team of Bruce and Joshua Turnidge, who wanted "to attack the political infrastructure" -- threaten a bank in Woodburn, Oregon, with a bomb in the hopes of extorting money that would end their financial difficulties, for which they blamed the government. Instead, the bomb goes off and kills two police officers. The men eventually are convicted and sentenced to death for the crime.

-- December 2008: In Belfast, Maine, police discover the makings of a nuclear "dirty bomb" in the basement of a white supremacist shot dead by his wife. The man, who was independently wealthy, reportedly was agitated about the election of President Obama and was crafting a plan to set off the bomb.

-- January 2009: A white supremacist named Keith Luke embarks on a killing rampage in Brockton, Mass., raping and wounding a black woman and killing her sister, then killing a homeless man before being captured by police as he is en route to a Jewish community center.

-- February 2009: A Marine named Kody Brittingham is arrested and charged with plotting to assassinate President Obama. Brittingham also collected white-supremacist material.

-- February 2009: A 60-year-old former Republican Party campaign volunteer opens fire on a gathering of Chilena exchange students in an apartment complex in Miramar Beach, Fla., after telling a neighbor he wanted to start a "revolution" against Latino immigrants.

-- April 2009: A white supremacist named Richard Poplawski opens fire on three Pittsburgh police officers who come to his house on a domestic-violence call and kills all three, because he believed President Obama intended to take away the guns of white citizens like himself. Poplawski is currently awaiting trial.

-- April 2009: Another gunman in Okaloosa County, Florida, similarly fearful of Obama's purported gun-grabbing plans, kills two deputies when they come to arrest him in a domestic-violence matter, then is killed himself in a shootout with police.

-- May 2009: A "sovereign citizen" named Scott Roeder walks into a church in Wichita, Kansas, and assassinates abortion provider Dr. George Tiller.

-- June 2009: A Holocaust denier and right-wing tax protester named James Von Brunn opens fire at the Holocaust Museum, killing a security guard.

-- February 2010: An angry tax protester named Joseph Ray Stack flies an airplane into the building housing IRS offices in Austin, Texas. (Media are reluctant to label this one "domestic terrorism" too.)

-- March 2010: Seven militiamen from the Hutaree Militia in Michigan and Ohio are arrested and charged with plotting to assassinate local police officers with the intent of sparking a new civil war.

-- March 2010: An anti-government extremist named John Patrick Bedell walks into the Pentagon and opens fire, wounding two officers before he is himself shot dead.

-- May 2010: A "sovereign citizen" from Georgia is arrested in Tennessee and charged with plotting the violent takeover of a local county courthouse.

-- May 2010: A still-unidentified white man walks into a Jacksonville, Fla., mosque and sets it afire, simultaneously setting off a pipe bomb.

-- May 2010: Two "sovereign citizens" named Jerry and Joe Kane gun down two police officers who pull them over for a traffic violation, and then wound two more officers in a shootout in which both of them are eventually killed.

-- July 2010: An agitated right-winger and convict named Byron Williams loads up on weapons and drives to the Bay Area intent on attacking the offices of the Tides Foundation and the ACLU, but is intercepted by state patrolmen and engages them in a shootout and armed standoff in which two officers and Williams are wounded.

-- September 2010: A Concord, N.C., man is arrested and charged with plotting to blow up a North Carolina abortion clinic. The man, 26-year--old Justin Carl Moose, referred to himself as the "Christian counterpart to (Osama) bin Laden” in a taped undercover meeting with a federal informant.

-- January 2011: A 22-year-old gunman named Jared Lee Loughner with a long grudge against Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and a paranoid hatred of the government walks into a public Giffords event and shoots her in the head, then keeps firing, killing six people and wounding 14 more. Gifford miraculously survives.

-- January 2011: A backpack bomb with the potential of killing or injuring dozens of people is found along the route of a Martin Luther King Day “unity march” in downtown Spokane.

-- January 31, 2011: An Army veteran from California with a previous arrest record for making threats against President Bush is arrested for making terrorist outside a mosque in Michigan inside a car whose trunk was filled with Class C explosives.

-- March 2011: Five people in the Fairbanks area are arrested on charges of plotting to kidnap or kill state troopers and a Fairbanks judge. All five are self-proclaimed "sovereign citizens," including local militia leader Schaeffer Cox.

-- March 2011: A man from Madera, CA, named Donny Eugene Mower is arrested for the firebombing of a Planned Parenthood clinic and the vandalization of a local Islamic religious center. The crimes were committed in the name of Mower's one-man hate group, the American Nationalist Brotherhood. His 'manifesto' asked: 'Isn't it time that someone hit back?'

Nitro Express
07-31-2011, 06:06 PM
The domestic terrorism is the government stomping our constitutional rights in the name of keeping us safe. When I hear the head of the TSA say veterans, christians, white males are the new terrorists I cringe. If she said that about any other group she would catch shit and be called a racist. Hell we can't even profile Muslims without getting into trouble but you can go after a white baptist wheat farmer who served in the Gulf War with no problem. The politicians and the media are taking us into a place that smells more like Nazi Germany than anything I have seen in my life. I lived in Israel where terrorism was a real problem and never had to put up with stuff that Americans put up with at the airport.

It's not about terrorism. It's about a certain small group trying to consolidate power for themselves and the people who work for the government are not a threat, the people on welfare are no threat. Who's the threat are independent people who can survive without the government. They are going after that demographic because it's the last demographic they don't control and it must be stomped out. So let's call a certain group in that demographic terrorists and infuse hate and paranoia against them using the media. Look at all the new executive orders and policies. They are going after independent business especially business that produces food or owns water rights. All in the name of getting the next Timothy McVeigh.

Fortunately I think many people in this country are waking up and smelling the capicino. I was in the dentist office and the news was on. An older lady was concerned whether her Social Security check would still come. I told her whoever took it away would commit political suicide but then I made the point did she live in the local area and she said yes. I said if your check doesn't come we the community would take care of her. Much like how Russian communities took care of each other when the Soviet Union failed and their checks didn't come. The real power is in family and community not some government that has found itself on the edge of default with a bunch of hopeless crooks running it. Shit happens but the real question is who takes care of you when it hits? The people who sell their freedom out for a false sense of security have a rude awakening happening. So we are going back to basics and it's the basics that built that big government in the first place. People taking care of themselves, their families, and their communities are the biggest threat to the people who are currently in power of our government. We are enemy number one because they can't control us. So they will start a media war against us and then make policy against us. As long as they can demonize us they hope to get away with their confiscation of personal rights and property ownership.