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  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
    • 35153

    The Rick Perry Thread





    HOUSTON — Standing on a stage surrounded by thousands of fellow Christians on Saturday morning, Gov. Rick Perry of Texas called on Jesus to bless and guide the nation’s military and political leaders and “those who cannot see the light in the midst of all the darkness.”


    “Lord, you are the source of every good thing,” Mr. Perry said, as he bowed his head, closed his eyes and leaned into a microphone at Reliant Stadium here. “You are our only hope, and we stand before you today in awe of your power and in gratitude for your blessings, and humility for our sins. Father, our heart breaks for America. We see discord at home. We see fear in the marketplace. We see anger in the halls of government, and as a nation we have forgotten who made us, who protects us, who blesses us, and for that we cry out for your forgiveness.”

    In a 13-minute address, Mr. Perry read several passages from the Bible during a prayer rally he sponsored. Thousands of people stood or kneeled in the aisles or on the concrete floor in front of the stage, some wiping away tears and some shouting, “Amen!”

    The prayer rally was seen as one of the biggest tests of Mr. Perry’s political career, coming as he nears a decision on whether to seek the Republican nomination for president.

    Mr. Perry, a lifelong Methodist who regularly attends an evangelical megachurch near his home in West Austin, has been speaking and preaching in sanctuaries throughout Texas since he was state agricultural commissioner in the 1990s. Organizers for the event, called The Response: A Call to Prayer for a Nation in Crisis, estimated that more than 30,000 people were at Reliant Stadium when Mr. Perry spoke. The seating capacity is 71,500, and tens of thousands of seats in the upper decks were empty.

    “I wish you could see what I see here,” announced Luis Cataldo, a leader of the International House of Prayer, a Christian ministry in Kansas City, Mo., as the event began at 10 a.m. “This is the body of Christ.”

    He said that there would be no long speeches, no banners, no signs. “You didn’t come here to listen to people preach,” he said. “You came to pray, and Jesus wants to hear your voice.”

    While those on the stage avoided making overt political statements or expressions of political support for Mr. Perry, many in the audience made it clear in interviews that they would vote for the governor should he enter the presidential race.

    Liz Lara, 62, who lives in La Vernia, Tex., a city of 1,200 outside San Antonio, drove about 200 miles to Houston with her daughter and two grandchildren to attend the rally. She said the family came to support Mr. Perry and pray for God’s help in solving the nation’s problems.

    “I believe that God has prepared Rick Perry for such a time as this,” she said. “I believe he will be our next president.”

    At one point, Mr. Perry asked those in the audience to pray for the president. “Father, we pray for our president, that you impart your wisdom upon him, that you would guard his family,” he said.

    Mr. Perry addressed the crowd nine days after a federal judge dismissed a lawsuit filed against him by a national group of atheists arguing that his participation in the rally in his official capacity as governor violated the First Amendment’s requirement of separation of church and state.

    Members and supporters of that group, the Wisconsin-based Freedom From Religion Foundation, protested outside. They waved picket signs that read “In reason we trust” and played marching-band-style music.

    The atheists were among dozens of people protesting outside the stadium, including gay activists who criticized Mr. Perry for supporting the American Family Association, which organized and financed the rally. The association is a conservative evangelical group based in Mississippi that is listed as an antigay hate group by the nonprofit Southern Poverty Law Center.

    A number of Texas political and religious leaders were noticeably absent.Mr. Perry’s two Austin pastors — one from Tarrytown United Methodist Church, where he has been a longtime member, and the other from Lake Hills Church, an evangelical church that he has been visiting more regularly — were not at the rally. Neither was the leader of Houston’s biggest congregation, Pastor Joel Osteen of Lakewood Church, who was holding his own worship service in Chicago on Saturday.

    Mr. Perry had invited his fellow governors to join him, but only Gov. Sam Brownback of Kansas, a Republican, attended. Gov. Rick Scott of Florida made a video statement that was played in the stadium.
  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
    • 35153

    #2
    Originally posted by Seshmeister
    At one point, Mr. Perry asked those in the audience to pray for the president. “Father, we pray for our president, that you impart your wisdom upon him, that you would guard his family,” he said.
    What's that all about? Is he trying to plant a seed there?

    I do worry about the US.

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    • Nitro Express
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 32797

      #3


      Gott Mit Uns (God is with us). The Wehrmacht had that on their belt buckles since World War I.
      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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      • Nitro Express
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 32797

        #4


        God will not be mocked by sleazy Texas politicians.
        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 58755

          #5
          He was the BCE's hand picked replacement for Chimpy as Texas governor. That was all I needed to know about him to know which team he played for.

          And it ain't JC's!
          Eat Us And Smile

          Cenk For America 2024!!

          Justice Democrats


          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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          • FORD
            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

            • Jan 2004
            • 58755

            #6
            Actual picture from Perryprayapalooza.....



            Remind you of anything.......
            Eat Us And Smile

            Cenk For America 2024!!

            Justice Democrats


            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 58755

              #7
              Of course, in all fairness, at least Hitler could fill the fucking arena.

              Eat Us And Smile

              Cenk For America 2024!!

              Justice Democrats


              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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              • standin
                Veteran
                • Apr 2009
                • 2274

                #8
                As Christians the Bible shows clear ways as to fit into the order of things.

                The Bible teaches that the church and state are separate institutions, ordain of God, each having a specific responsibility:

                1. Rulers are appointed by God. (Daniel 2:21; 4:17, 25, 32; 5:21)

                2. Rulers are the ministers or servants (not sons) of God. (Romans 13:1, 2, 4)

                3. They are to suppress the evil and protect the good (Romans 13:3), by executing wrath upon the evildoer (Genesis 9:5, 6; Romans 13:4).

                4. The church is the representative body of Jesus Christ upon Earth (Matthew 16:18, 19), to serve as His ambassadors (the highest position one may obtain as a representative of his King), calling men to be reconciled to Him (Luke 2:14; 2 Corinthians 5:20).

                5. As strangers and pilgrims Christians are to: honor rulers (Romans 13:7; 1 Peter 2:17); pray for them ( 1 Timothy 2: 1-3 ); pay taxes and other dues they levy (Romans13:6, 7); be subject to the for conscience sake (Romans 13:1, 5; Titus 3:1); remembering that Christians first allegiance is to God (Acts 4:19; 5:29).

                6. Ambassadors, strangers, and pligrims have no right to engage in the political activities of the country in which they live.
                To put it simply, we need to worry a lot less about how to communicate our actions and much more about what our actions communicate.
                MICHAEL G. MULLEN

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                • ashstralia
                  ROTH ARMY ELITE
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 6556

                  #9
                  Originally posted by FORD
                  Remind you of anything.......
                  the sexy milf is remembering her groupie days.

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                  • Seshmeister
                    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                    • Oct 2003
                    • 35153

                    #10
                    Originally posted by standin
                    As Christians the Bible shows clear ways as to fit into the order of things.

                    The Bible teaches that the church and state are separate institutions, ordain of God, each having a specific responsibility:

                    1. Rulers are appointed by God. (Daniel 2:21; 4:17, 25, 32; 5:21)
                    I'm very disappointed in some of his appointments.

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                    • binnie
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • May 2006
                      • 19144

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Seshmeister
                      What's that all about? Is he trying to plant a seed there?

                      I do worry about the US.
                      I think you're over-reading that. Wishing health and safety on families is a fairly standard part of prayer.

                      The idea of harnessing prayer and politics may be faintly ridiculous, but I don't find it sinister.....
                      The Power Of The Riff Compels Me

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                      • Seshmeister
                        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                        • Oct 2003
                        • 35153

                        #12
                        Faintly???

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                        • binnie
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • May 2006
                          • 19144

                          #13
                          Nah.

                          He's too stoopid to be sinister.
                          The Power Of The Riff Compels Me

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                          • Seshmeister
                            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                            • Oct 2003
                            • 35153

                            #14
                            It's possible he could be the next president and he doesn't 'believe' in evolution or climate change and his answer to the economic problems is more praying...

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                            • Seshmeister
                              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                              • Oct 2003
                              • 35153

                              #15


                              That signature does not fill you will any optimism about his mental powers.

                              What's with the capital letters in the middle of Perry? How can the governor of Texas not know the difference between r and R or is this a cultural thing?

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