Metal Evolution on VH-1

[Carloscda]

They interviewed Mikey.
George Lynch, once other guitarist got wind of Eddie we were devastated!
Vince Neil, I looked up to Dave he was the man!

Would've been great if Dave was interviewed!

Throughout the series VH has been mentioned a number of times by other bands inspired by them.

[Carloscda]

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[Dave's Bitch]

Nope cant play it

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Great pic outside the Whisky at 3:25...

[Carloscda]

Nope cant play it

http://www.vh1.com/video/misc/720648/metal-evolution-episode-5-glam-show-clip.jhtml#id=1676196

[Terry]

Van Halen inspired a lot of LA bands who broke big commercially in the 1980s.

The sad part is contrasting that with Van Halen. The Van Halens and Roth were influenced by Zeppelin, the Stones, Cream, Black Sabbath, dance music...a wide scope of musical styles. Van Halen took those influences and created something of their own that, IMO, stood up alongside the artists and acts that influenced them.

The LA/MTV glam hairpop bands Van Halen influenced by and large never even came close to coming up with anything that was as compelling as what Van Halen did. Seemingly all they grasped were the flashier aspects of Van Halen (outre frontman, guitar histrionics), and bypassed the substance.

[Dave's Bitch]

http://www.vh1.com/video/misc/720648...tml#id=1676196

Grazie

[Hummarstra]

Why is there 5x times footage dedicated to Crue than VH? That's what I hate about this doc series. I think the host really missed the mark on some of this.

[Heater]

VH were the breakout band from that era and Ed was the new guitar hero. that his style was emulated speaks to his innovativeness but also showed how gimmicky much of his playing was. Ed wasn't the first to tap, he was the first to tap A LOT, he is probably the only guitarist to ever wear out a whammy bar, no body used one as much as him. What elevated Ed was his song writing and ability to come up with those riffs. his solos are very formulaic and remarkably similar. when anybody else did the hammer tap they were automatically branded as an Eddie clone. Pete Townsend once said thathe thought Ed had taken the electric guitar as far as it could go. Roth once said, while commenting about the solo in Beat It that Ed went out and "played the same solo he always does". Fairly true but also loaded with sour grapes at Ed eclipsing Dave, which was becoming known when Dave would bitch about Ed putting his solo pieces on the albums. Roth tried to veto Cathedral yet added little to Diver Down as it is half covers. Other singers realized that Dave raised the bar as far as being a performer, but no one ever aped or referred to his singing as inspirational, he seems to want to take credit for inventing blonde hair, OK, but his schtick got tired and while others evolved, he began to become an example in self parody.

[Unchainme]

Fuck off Sheep.

[Satan]

Satan Claus is going to put a big red hot lump of coal in Bleater's stocking.....and then beat him upside his empty sheep skull with it.

[Terry]

Why is there 5x times footage dedicated to Crue than VH? That's what I hate about this doc series. I think the host really missed the mark on some of this.

It's usually the rock stars who will take the time to sit down with the shows that end up getting the bulk of the footage concentrated on them.

Although in the case of this particular documentary, I certainly wouldn't consider Van Halen an 80's L.A. glam hair metal band, so devoting much of the time to Motley Crue, Ratt, Dokken, Poison and Warrant seems appropriate.

[Matt White]

VH were the breakout band from that era and DAVID LEE ROTH made it happen. Notice that it was DAVE (according to Mike Anthony, a reliable source & noted expert of hot sauce who says so) that MADE Speddie von Halen turn his back to the crowd so George Lynch wouldn't rip him off. Come to think of it, without DAVID LEE ROTH the von Halen's would have been just another Quiet Riot...and decent band with a hot-shot guitar player. It took DAVID LEE ROTH to turn them into SuperStars!!!!.

Well said Bleater........

now......back to THE PEN......

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Well, that WAS the Glam Metal portion of the documentary, and the host made the case that it was VH that paved the way for the others from the Sunset Strip....

AND, let's not forget that VH was highlighted for about 5 minutes on I believe the 1st episode.....

[Unchainme]

It's unfair of people to immediately equal CVH to Hair Metal.

listening to groups like Smashing Pumpkins and Pantera you can hear so much of the old school Van Halen in their music. Maybe not the lyrics, but definitively the music.