Options For Purchasing A Different Kind Of Truth

[GreenEyedMurder]

On my way home tonight, I was bored and started looking up Amazon, Best Buy, J&R Music, etc., but the only site that seems to list the upcoming album is Walmart.

Is it too early for the album to show up elsewhere, or am I screwed (because thanks to our City Council, THERE IS NO WALMART IN ALL OF NEW YORK CITY)?

[Sensible Shoes]

There's a K-mart in Manhattan - weird that there's no walmart.

[GreenEyedMurder]

There's a K-mart in Manhattan - weird that there's no walmart.

Yes, that one K-Mart is in the East Village, of all places. The City Council makes it SO difficult for companies to come here. I'd go into a big rant about them, but this isn't the place for it.

[Hardrock69]

Hell, if it were a Walmart exclusive, they would have been trumpeting it to the skies already.

Remember AC/DC? Garth Brooks? As soon as the ink was dry on whatever contracts they signed, Walmart was making all kinds of big announcements.


I am sure they would have LOVED to have an exclusive deal, but I don't see it happening, as Walmart has kept their yap shut.

[Sensible Shoes]

Yes, that one K-Mart is in the East Village, of all places. The City Council makes it SO difficult for companies to come here. I'd go into a big rant about them, but this isn't the place for it.

Well this one was within walking distance of Madison Square Garden, where we were for the Westminster dog show. It was a DIVE.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

fuck, my connection at target just quit. mightta talked him in to scoobyin' me one early

[GreenEyedMurder]

Hell, if it were a Walmart exclusive, they would have been trumpeting it to the skies already.

Remember AC/DC? Garth Brooks? As soon as the ink was dry on whatever contracts they signed, Walmart was making all kinds of big announcements.


I am sure they would have LOVED to have an exclusive deal, but I don't see it happening, as Walmart has kept their yap shut.

Thank you!

[GreenEyedMurder]

Well this one was within walking distance of Madison Square Garden, where we were for the Westminster dog show. It was a DIVE.

Oh, right! That's in Penn Station -- right underneath MSG.

[GreenEyedMurder]

I just hope it's at J&R Music, because that's walking distance from my apartment.

I'm just concerned that it's not showing up on any sites other than Walmart. Is it too early?

[tap1966]

They're putting a lot of effort into promo, can't imagine they will make it difficult to obtain especially in NYC.

[GreenEyedMurder]

They're putting a lot of effort into promo, can't imagine they will make it difficult to obtain especially in NYC.

Thank you! :D

[tap1966]

I just hope it's at J&R Music, because that's walking distance from my apartment.


I'm planning on dropping my daughter off at school that morning and then heading to J&R to pick up a copy. Can't imagine them not having it.

[GreenEyedMurder]

I'm planning on dropping my daughter off at school that morning and then heading to J&R to pick up a copy. Can't imagine them not having it.

That would be the best! But nothing on their website yet.

[Sensible Shoes]

Oh, right! That's in Penn Station -- right underneath MSG.

I ate Sushi in Penn Station. Was that bad?

[PETE'S BROTHER]

I ate Sushi in Penn Station. Was that bad?

now there is a green carrot rubbin' one out pretending his name is sushi. so, yes

[sadaist]

I ate Sushi in Penn Station. Was that bad?


I ate her sister Ming at Grand Central. I was fine so you should be okay.

[mdk1967]

You can pre-order it and the Deluxe version CD at Amazon.uk.com.

[GreenEyedMurder]

I ate Sushi in Penn Station. Was that bad?

They sell Sushi in Penn Station? (And why does that remind me of Susie sells seashells by the seashore?)
You're still here, so it couldn't have been too bad! :)

[GreenEyedMurder]

I ate her sister Ming at Grand Central. I was fine so you should be okay.

That was really her tranny brother!

[GreenEyedMurder]

You can pre-order it and the Deluxe version CD at Amazon.uk.com.

I can also order at Walmart.com -- although the t-shirt only comes in L and XL.

[mdk1967]

I can also order at Walmart.com -- although the t-shirt only comes in L and XL.

There's a new shirt too? I'm drooling! :D

[mdk1967]

I can also order at Walmart.com -- although the t-shirt only comes in L and XL.

I LOVE online shopping!

[FORD]

I hope they have it somewhere other than WalMart because I really hate that fucking store.

[knuckleboner]

well, it ain't on amazon yet. but i just saw what is...

DVD of brazil 1983. van halen finally cracking open the vault?!?

van halen bottom's up DVD (http://www.amazon.com/Van-Halen-Bottoms-Broadcast-Archives/dp/B0060ANTNE/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1326092235&sr=8-7)

[FORD]

Yeah, I saw that the other day. Looks like one of those gray market imports. Probably legal in Brazil where the broadcast originated from, but they'll probably have someone try to kill distribution in the US. Whether it's WB or Van Halen themselves, or both. (Or Interscope, if they happened to buy the back catalog, like they did with the Stones, Elton John, and others that they signed.)

[BumBahDeeDah]

Walmart in Bayonne, if it comes to that. Not TOO big of a pain if you're in Staten Island, or Manhattan.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

There's a new shirt too? I'm drooling! :D

Looks like it....

http://www.walmart.com/ip/19717773

[GreenEyedMurder]

Walmart in Bayonne, if it comes to that. Not TOO big of a pain if you're in Staten Island, or Manhattan.

Where is Bayonne? Seriously, I have no idea. I can get to the PATH station at the WTC site, but have no clue where to get off or what to do from there.

[chi-town324]

what about amazon usa? isn't there going to be a deluxe with a DVD?

[GreenEyedMurder]

There's not even a listing for the album (alone) on Amazon. As I said, the only place online I've been able to find it is Walmart, which made me wonder if it's a Walmart-only deal, or if Walmart is just the first to list it.

[ZahZoo]

Best Buy has pre-order llisted for the new album Deluxe Edition (CD+DVD) listed for $16.99 regular for $14.99

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Different+Kind+Of+Truth+%28CD%2BDVD%29+%28Deluxe+E dition%29+-+CD/4756566.p?id=2374580&skuId=4756566&st=van%20halen&lp=1&cp=1

[VanCanHalen]

Looks like BestBuy (USA) is listing both the reg and deluxe versions http://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpage.jsp;jsessionid=D625EC7717CD509B88F44FFB 6C082D0E.bbolsp-app02-13?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&_dynSessConf=2075527373979388471&id=pcat17071&type=page&st=van+halen&sc=Global&cp=1&nrp=15&sp=&qp=&list=n&iht=y&usc=All+Categories&ks=960 And HMV both versions as well http://www.hmv.ca/Products/Detail/648173.aspx

[VOODOO_King]

well, it ain't on amazon yet. but i just saw what is...

DVD of brazil 1983. van halen finally cracking open the vault?!?

van halen bottom's up DVD (http://www.amazon.com/Van-Halen-Bottoms-Broadcast-Archives/dp/B0060ANTNE/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1326092235&sr=8-7)

That thing is a steaming pile of dung. Horrible quality and if it's the same one that was released about a year ago (and I believe it is only a new title) the picture had a "frame" around it, so the video picture is actually about 2/3 the size of the screen with this annoying red border and a VH logo on it.

[GreenEyedMurder]

Best Buy has pre-order llisted for the new album Deluxe Edition (CD+DVD) listed for $16.99 regular for $14.99

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Different+Kind+Of+Truth+%28CD%2BDVD%29+%28Deluxe+E dition%29+-+CD/4756566.p?id=2374580&skuId=4756566&st=van%20halen&lp=1&cp=1

That must be a new listing, because I couldn't find it yesterday.

[Matt White]

OKay peeps....went to Itunes this morning to "see what I could see"....

and BLAMMO!!!

VAN HALEN : A DIFFERENT KIND OF TRUTH DELUXE VERSION available for "pre-order"...

For the low low price of $14.99 you get......*Drum roll please....*

1. Tattoo

2. She's the woman

3. You and Your Blues

4. China Town

5. Blood and Fire

6. Bullethead

7. As is

8. Honeybabysweetiedoll

9. The Trouble With Never

10. Outta Space

11. Stay Frosty

12. Big River

13. Beats Workin'

14. Panama (Downtown Sessions)

15. You and Your Blues (Intro) (Downtown Sessions)

16. You and YOur Blues (Downtown Sessions)

17. Beautiful Girls (Downtown Sessions)

18. Digital Booklet A Different Kind of Truth


Yup.....sign me up Uncle Dave....I'm ready to Farkin' ROLL!!!

[george]

Wonder how it works if you already paid for Tattoo? Do they credit you anything for it? Not like it is a lot of $$ at all but I'm just curious..

[VanHalener]

Snatched it up from itunes at 8 this morning.

My neighbors may finally call the police on me after I get this album.
Oh well, it's been a good long run for six years.

:hitch:OWWWWWWWW


(And George, you get Tattoo now and the rest later)

[Matt White]

Wonder how it works if you already paid for Tattoo? Do they credit you anything for it? Not like it is a lot of $$ at all but I'm just curious..

I do believe that they'll not charge you for that one tune if you buy the rest of the CD....its always worked like that in the past on Itunes......

[Cruiser]

They will actually charge you less than the 14.99 for the amount you paid for Tattoo I believe to "complete the album" as they call it...either way you are paying 14.99 total.

[PanamaHat]

OKay peeps....went to Itunes this morning to "see what I could see"....

15. You and Your Blues (Intro) (Downtown Sessions)
16. You and YOur Blues (Downtown Sessions)


Great find Matt! That last part was particularly interesting. I wonder if there is an instrumental intro to YaYB (a la Little Guitars)...

[fryingdutchman]

This is fookin' sweet.

Thanks Matt.

[ZahZoo]

Walmart added the Deluxe (CD/DVD) listing for $13.88 plus the CD/Shirt for $19.88 and CD only for $11.88

http://www.walmart.com/ip/19717769

No album artwork or shirt images available yet.

[chuckie lee]

OKay peeps....went to Itunes this morning to "see what I could see"....

and BLAMMO!!!

VAN HALEN : A DIFFERENT KIND OF TRUTH DELUXE VERSION available for "pre-order"...

For the low low price of $14.99 you get......*Drum roll please....*

1. Tattoo

2. She's the woman

3. You and Your Blues

4. China Town

5. Blood and Fire

6. Bullethead

7. As is

8. Honeybabysweetiedoll

9. The Trouble With Never

10. Outta Space

11. Stay Frosty

12. Big River

13. Beats Workin'

14. Panama (Downtown Sessions)

15. You and Your Blues (Intro) (Downtown Sessions)

16. You and YOur Blues (Downtown Sessions)

17. Beautiful Girls (Downtown Sessions)

18. Digital Booklet A Different Kind of Truth


Yup.....sign me up Uncle Dave....I'm ready to Farkin' ROLL!!! This is awesome.... Do you know if it is gonna be sold at best buy or walmart with all the extras?.. I wanna snatch up the deluxe for the sheer novelty factor, and 1 for the truck, and 1 for work..

[ZahZoo]

Did you happen to look two threads below this one..?

[chuckie lee]

Nope.. Not yet..on it..and thnx

[BITEYOASS]

I'd rather just the 2-disc CD set. Especially the hard drive gives up.

[if6was9]

It would be unfair to wait 28 years and go def before February 7th. Don't you think?

Knock on wood!!!

[chi-town324]

got the iTunes deal...got the single instantly...love it..the boys are back!!

[Sensible Shoes]

I just bought it on line w/ xlarge tshirt from Wally World. Oh well.

[vanshipman]

If you like I would be happy to get you a copy and send it to you.

[Northern Girl]

15. You and Your Blues (Intro) (Downtown Sessions)

16. You and YOur Blues (Downtown Sessions)

Can someone tell me about this song?

I don't know it. Should I know it?

[Matt White]

I just took a 2nd look at that itunes preorder of the deluxe version of A DIFFERENT KIND OF TRUTH.......


14. Panama (Downtown Sessions)

15. You and Your Blues (Intro) (Downtown Sessions)

16. You and YOur Blues (Downtown Sessions)

17. Beautiful Girls (Downtown Sessions)

the Downtown Sessions, aLL 4 SELECTIONS....have video to them!!!!

FUCK YEAH!!!

[VanCanHalen]

Not sure if posted but Album will be made available on Vinyl via a ticketmaster preorder with the purchases of Van Halen concert tickets;

Exclusive Van Halen OffersClose
Pre-order Van Halen's "A Different Kind of Truth: EXCLUSIVE Tour Collector's Edition” Vinyl Album with your ticket order today. This exclusive double Gatefold LP Vinyl includes all 13 songs on 2 LPs plus custom LP artwork and the Deluxe MP3 Edition of the album. Also available at checkout is the deluxe edition of the album on CD or MP3. The deluxe edition includes “The Downtown Sessions”, 4 acoustic video performances on DVD or QT .mov files – “Panama”, “You and Your Blues (intro)”, “You and Your Blues” and “Beautiful Girls”!

You will be presented with an opportunity to Pre-Order the Exclusive Tour Collector's Edition Vinyl, Deluxe CD, and Deluxe MP3 on the Review Page of Checkout.

Please Note: “A Different Kind of Truth” will be released on 2/7/12. The Exclusive Tour Collector’s Edition and the CD will ship separately from your tickets and will be delivered within 4-6 weeks after placing your order. The MP3 will be delivered to your email from the Ticketmaster Digital Store on the release date for orders placed by 1/28/12 (or within 10 days for later orders). The album prices include all applicable shipping, handling and tax. The "Tour Collector’s Edition Bundle" vinyl bundle is exclusively available to ticket purchasers.

[hambon4lif]

Not sure if posted but Album will be made available on Vinyl via a ticketmaster preorder with the purchases of Van Halen concert tickets;

Exclusive Van Halen OffersClose
Pre-order Van Halen's "A Different Kind of Truth: EXCLUSIVE Tour Collector's Edition” Vinyl Album with your ticket order today. This exclusive double Gatefold LP Vinyl includes all 13 songs on 2 LPs plus custom LP artwork and the Deluxe MP3 Edition of the album. Also available at checkout is the deluxe edition of the album on CD or MP3. The deluxe edition includes “The Downtown Sessions”, 4 acoustic video performances on DVD or QT .mov files – “Panama”, “You and Your Blues (intro)”, “You and Your Blues” and “Beautiful Girls”!

You will be presented with an opportunity to Pre-Order the Exclusive Tour Collector's Edition Vinyl, Deluxe CD, and Deluxe MP3 on the Review Page of Checkout.

Please Note: “A Different Kind of Truth” will be released on 2/7/12. The Exclusive Tour Collector’s Edition and the CD will ship separately from your tickets and will be delivered within 4-6 weeks after placing your order. The MP3 will be delivered to your email from the Ticketmaster Digital Store on the release date for orders placed by 1/28/12 (or within 10 days for later orders). The album prices include all applicable shipping, handling and tax. The "Tour Collector’s Edition Bundle" vinyl bundle is exclusively available to ticket purchasers.Excellent!!

This is what I'm going after! I want to hear this Van Halen album the way you're supposed to hear a Van Halen album.....on WAX, BAY-BEE!!

It bummed me out to hear Dave say they weren't going vinyl with this one. I'm glad that's not the case.

[Sensible Shoes]

I wonder if it will include a chaps poster? New version. :D

[qikgts]

I wonder if it will include a chaps poster? New version. :D

Goodness gracious... Woman!

[Sensible Shoes]

Hee hee hee

[qikgts]

loling at ^^^^^^

[GreenEyedMurder]

Can someone tell me about this song?

I don't know it. Should I know it?

It's on the new album.

[chi-town324]

looking into the lp right now

[chi-town324]

The vinyl LP IS $54.00...Gonna think about that

[Northern Girl]

It's on the new album.

LOL. No kidding. Just wondering if it was a cover or what? Did a Google search and no songs come up with that name.

The other vids are old songs.

[VAiN]

I hope it's on the shelves in WalMart at midnight, or very early on the 7th. I don't want to wait for the fucking mailman to show up at 3:00. I have taken the day off of work and so has JJTheVagPounder and we will be slamming beers and cranking this album all goddamn day long!! Any fans in the Fort Lauderdale area? If so, you're invited too... We're looking at you, Chef.

[chi-town324]

ticket master offered the vinyl limited edition (whatever that is) for $ 54.00 they said they could add it to my ticket order..didnt pull the trigger

[gbranton]

Walmart added the Deluxe (CD/DVD) listing for $13.88 plus the CD/Shirt for $19.88 and CD only for $11.88

http://www.walmart.com/ip/19717769

No album artwork or shirt images available yet.

It appears Walmart only has Large and X-Large sizes, nothing in grownup sizes.

[Sensible Shoes]

You mean the L & XL are children's sizes? That will piss me off.

[gbranton]

You mean the L & XL are children's sizes? That will piss me off.

No, I mean they don't have it in a size for a six-foot-two, two hundred and fifteen pound man.

[Sensible Shoes]

Who's that? :winkglasses:

[sambo]

Apple iTunes Australia does not have the 4 bonus tracks but does say it will be released 3 February 2012.

Looks like I may buy it more than once..

and there's vinyl???

[gbranton]

Who's that? :winkglasses:

This guy:

[Hardrock69]

No, I mean they don't have it in a size for a six-foot-two, two hundred and fifteen pound man.

Which obviously means they won't have it in a size for a 6'-7" 300-pound man, lol.

That's ok. Will hopefully get a shirt at the Louisville show. Though the merch is gonna be selling out faster than a motherfucker!

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Which obviously means they won't have it in a size for a 6'-7" 300-pound man, lol.

That's ok. Will hopefully get a shirt at the Louisville show. Though the merch is gonna be selling out faster than a motherfucker!

lessee, 6' 5" 220. you, me, warf, gbranton, and one person that can jump and shoot a basketball, it would be a decent team. :biggrin:

[gbranton]

lessee, 6' 5" 220. you, me, warf, gbranton, and one person that can jump and shoot a basketball, it would be a decent team. :biggrin:

LOL, the Halen Globetrotters.

[ZahZoo]

Walmart has added what the exclusive shirt will look like... not bad...

http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/60/25/27/93/0060252793775_500X500.jpg

[chefcraig]

The largest issue facing Van Halen fans wishing to purchase the album upon it's release at Walmart is the idea that the entire deal is predicated upon the notion that this guy will be able to find the Fed-Ex package containing it, let alone remember where his fucking box-cutter is on that fateful day.


http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r309/Miss_Cool/Others/The%20Simpsons/Squeaky_Voiced_Teen.png

[GreenEyedMurder]

No, I mean they don't have it in a size for a six-foot-two, two hundred and fifteen pound man.

And it looks like nothing for women who are 5-foot-4 and wear size 4.

[chefcraig]

And it looks like nothing for women who are 5-foot-4 and wear size 4.

Christ, have I got a line for that about having something blah blah blah, but I'll pretend to be a gentleman (yet again) and keep my trap shut.

[DavidLeeNatra]

You can pre-order it and the Deluxe version CD at Amazon.uk.com.

same here in Germany...been there, done that...

[binnie]

So far, I think we have to congratulate Interscope on doing a good job.

[mewisemagic]

Check it out....

http://www.store.livenation.com/Product.aspx?cp=13281_16771_54521_54605&pc=XM03COMBO

[BITEYOASS]

Looks like the Van Halen Store is selling it as well:

http://www.vanhalenstore.com/shop/merchant.mvc?

[Bad Muthafucker]

I'm gonna check out FYE at the local mall on the 7th to see of they have it. There's also a K-Mart in that mall and a Walmart 5 minutes down the road.

[chi-town324]

target.. got one next door to work

[ThrillsNSpills]

I have a Target 5 minutes away. If that fails, Best Buy is up the road a little ways.

Does anyone find it interesting that the vinyl version is 2 LPs? For 13 tunes.

[JJtheVagPounder]

I find Target and Walmart to be bad music options because they edit their music selection. God forbid Dave drops an f-bomb and they replace it with some [explitive deleted] bullshit.

[FORD]

Is Target doing that shit now too?

I never even considered WalFart for music after they censored the cover of Nirvana's album way back in the 1990's, and made them change the song "Rape Me" to something really stupid like "Wake Me" or whatever.

Ironically the song was more about corporations fucking around with music than it was the actual sexual violation of women.

[sadaist]

I will use Best Buy. I hate Target. They are just a pretentious version of Walmart, yet still crap just less of it. And Walmart I don't mind so much the store, it's the customers I can't stand. So I'll cruise into Best Buy, snag the cd & spend a few checking out TV's or computers as well. Always fun to window shop.

[ThrillsNSpills]

Can they edit the disc and not put a sticker on it legally?



What is that? The Tipper's revenge Act?

[chefcraig]

Crap, I'm completely confused by the choices Walmart (http://www.walmart.com/ip/19717769) is offering. You have three options:

1. $11.88 - CD alone
2. $13.88 - CD/DVD
3. $19.88 - CD/T Shirt

Does this mean that option #3. gives you the CD alone, plus a shirt? Or does this mean you get the CD, the shirt AND the DVD? :019:

[Dave's Bitch]

Got mine from amazon

[JJtheVagPounder]

Can they edit the disc and not put a sticker on it legally?



What is that? The Tipper's revenge Act?

They don't put a sticker on it. They just remove the PARENTAL ADVISEMENT from the cover art. It's pretty stupid. These are "family friendly" stores. Which is funny considering the clientel they attract.

[VHscraps]

I have a Target 5 minutes away. If that fails, Best Buy is up the road a little ways.

Does anyone find it interesting that the vinyl version is 2 LPs? For 13 tunes.

Not really - I find it good, though, that it could possibly be two albums of 35mins or so each. That would be like two old CVH albums.

It could just be to allow for more spaces between the grooves, so to speak. It's common with contemporary vinyl releases to be doubles, especially when CDs can be 70 min+. All the CVH albums were made before CD (or in the case of 1984, wasn't released initially on CD, so recorded / mastered with the limitations of vinyl in mind - anything over 35 mins, and the grooves have to be cut closer, and something gets lost sonically).

Could depend on length of the tunes on the album, though - 'Tattoo' is the single, and sometimes you'd say the single is usually one of the shorter tracks on any album by any band for radio-play purposes - but it's nearly 5 mins long. Those first six albums were all around 33-36 mins (Van Halen I the longest ... at a mere 35:13 mins, but again, that was common in pre-CD days).

The only longer songs than 'Tattoo' they recorded in the 6-pack are: 'Cradle Will Rock', 'Fools', and 'Mean Street'. Maybe it will be an album of longer cuts. MWM and CGTSNM are both longer, too - so maybe the trend is towards slightly longer tunes now.

[mohican]

Crap, I'm completely confused by the choices Walmart (http://www.walmart.com/ip/19717769) is offering. You have three options:

1. $11.88 - CD alone
2. $13.88 - CD/DVD
3. $19.88 - CD/T Shirt

Does this mean that option #3. gives you the CD alone, plus a shirt? Or does this mean you get the CD, the shirt AND the DVD? :019:

I checked out the link ... looks like Option 3 is CD & T-shirt only, no DVD.

[ThrillsNSpills]

Great post Scraps. I was thinking the same way about this being like 2 of the six-pack with regard to length.
I also understand the fidelity issue, I'm not sure how the fidelity is saved if there's any digital anything in the processing especially with distorted guitar since the warmth of the tone is killed digitally.
There used to be verbal jousts on this site about mp3 versus flac, so I'm sure many people here know the difference.
I haven't bought vinyl in years, but I'm guessing the resurgence in its popularity's got something to do with fidelity.

[VHscraps]

I've certainly bought the occasional vinyl album in recent years - the packaging is just so much better, and the size of the thing as you hold it in your hands, just reminds me of all those countless hours spent looking at album sleeves, record labels, the etchings in the run-off grooves (!!) for clues to why this thing I was listening to - whatever it was - was like a magic charm.

But my turntable and hi-fi set-up is probably not the best, and the belt has just gone on the deck. I got it very cheap, though, from an online store in the UK that reconditions old hi-fi equipment (probably a guy in his basement), but it had clearly been sitting in somebody's garage for a while!! Signs of rust. But, the sound still damn well leaps out at you on the vinyl.

I don't know the how or why of it - you'd probably need to be a physicist or something to explain to me why it sounds better. But it just does.

[Carmine]

Damn album aint even out yet and I've bought 3 copies...1 deluxe with the DVD, 1 Album, 1 CD package at Wal-Mart with the T-Shirt....

Van Fuckin' Halen...

[Seshmeister]

The only longer songs than 'Tattoo' they recorded in the 6-pack are: 'Cradle Will Rock', 'Fools', and 'Mean Street'. Maybe it will be an album of longer cuts. MWM and CGTSNM are both longer, too - so maybe the trend is towards slightly longer tunes now.

The Cafe Wha version of She's the Woman was under 3 mins though.

[ZahZoo]

Can they edit the disc and not put a sticker on it legally?



What is that? The Tipper's revenge Act?

The retail companies don't edit anything... the record label and bands have to agree to put out alternate versions of the original material before it even hits a shelf.

As creative as anyone wants to be... the FCC laws are what drives record companies and artists to produce "radio friendly" versions of their material. Most large corporations do have values that keeps them out of hot water with customers... But neither Walmart or Target force this stuff... the marketing people at the labels do. They want to sell to everyone... so they package things the retailers find palatable.

If Walmart was as bad as some of you make it to be... why is it I can walk in there and buy any season of Deadwood in all it's over-cussed, murdering with ho's and blow jobs that would make any cocksucker blush..?

[ZahZoo]

Crap, I'm completely confused by the choices Walmart (http://www.walmart.com/ip/19717769) is offering. You have three options:

1. $11.88 - CD alone
2. $13.88 - CD/DVD
3. $19.88 - CD/T Shirt

Does this mean that option #3. gives you the CD alone, plus a shirt? Or does this mean you get the CD, the shirt AND the DVD? :019:

Can't say if it's Walmart or the label... odds are number 3 is just the CD & shirt. Then you gotta double dip for another unit... for CD + DVD. You know how it goes in business... Everybody wants some...

[Carmine]

... odds are number 3 is just the CD & shirt.

yep, thats it...#3 is CD and and xl t-shirt only....

[chi-town324]

amazon has the deluxe edition now for 20.99 with free shipping

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Let's not forget ordering it from Amazon at the Army link at the top !!

[BITEYOASS]

Yeah, might as well buy it off Amazon.com in case Walmart and Target censor the fuckin' album.

[Seshmeister]

Talking of different formats what's this bullshit released the week after?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Different-Kind-Truth-Deluxe-Shm-CD/dp/B006VWVCVW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1326727759&sr=8-3

Different Kind of Truth: Deluxe Edition (Shm-CD) by Van Halen (Audio CD - 2012) - Import
Buy new: £40.85

$60 fucking bucks?

I'd never even heard of Super High Material CD but it sounds like a sting to me. Digital is digital, 1s and 0s are 1s and 0s.

I bet it's like blind tests of gold cable connectors, no one can tell the difference.

[kwame k]

I've certainly bought the occasional vinyl album in recent years - the packaging is just so much better, and the size of the thing as you hold it in your hands, just reminds me of all those countless hours spent looking at album sleeves, record labels, the etchings in the run-off grooves (!!) for clues to why this thing I was listening to - whatever it was - was like a magic charm.

But my turntable and hi-fi set-up is probably not the best, and the belt has just gone on the deck. I got it very cheap, though, from an online store in the UK that reconditions old hi-fi equipment (probably a guy in his basement), but it had clearly been sitting in somebody's garage for a while!! Signs of rust. But, the sound still damn well leaps out at you on the vinyl.

I don't know the how or why of it - you'd probably need to be a physicist or something to explain to me why it sounds better. But it just does.

Not really, bro.....

CD's capture a snapshot, for lack of a better word, of the music at a rate of 44,100 snapshots a minute......it's done to a precision rate of 16 bits. So you only have so much space to capture the sound....it's not infinite. What can't be fit into those spaces is cut, clipped, compressed, or ignored altogether.

Analog sound is the way we hear things, so it's a natural sound for humans......records have a groove cut into them that mimics the actual waveform that we hear.

The difference would be storing your personal belongs in a weather tight climate controlled building as opposed to a shed that has a leaky roof and holes in the walls.......it'll get the job done but you'll lose some of your belongings in the process.

[Vinnie Velvet]

Available for pre-order on double LP gatefold!

http://www.store.livenation.com/Product.aspx?cp=13281_16771_54521&pc=XM03COMBO

[chefcraig]

Can't say if it's Walmart or the label... odds are number 3 is just the CD & shirt. Then you gotta double dip for another unit... for CD + DVD. You know how it goes in business... Everybody wants some...

Well, I guess I'll be purchasing this thing in at least 3 formats: The t-shirt package, the CD/DVD and naturally, the vinyl edition. What the hell, I haven't bought an album of new material in a few of years, since all I tend to get these days are archived boxed sets and reissues of albums I bought 10, 20 or 30 years ago anyway.

[kiwimark]

Hi all -
Sorry if this is in another post - But want confirmation that the deluxe version will be sold on release date internationally? as want to walk into a store to get the album on our release date Feb 3 2012 (as live in New Zealand and should be in line with the Australia release date) and would like to know if need to pre order deluxe from web and suffer through standard version for a couple of weeks (as it would arrive a week or so here after US release date)

[neuralfraud]

In theory we should not be able to distinguish any distortions/etc in a recording done at 44kHz/16bits.

First let me delve into your statement regarding samplerate/precision

44,100 snapshots per SECOND.

Times 16 bits. What exactly is the "Bit depth" anyhow? You know this but many do not. It's basically the number values each sample can have. 1 sample is 1/44100th of a second; infinitesimal. That sample could have 65,536 possible values in total, but inreality it's gotta account for phase, so 32,767 either way.

Sounds like a lot, it is a lot... then there's 24-bit precision. It's safe to say that whatever the exact level/value for any particular sample will be recorded EXACTLY.

With that having been said, let's just go ahead and say that the recording should be fucking PERFECT. 44,100hz samplerate translates to an effective frequency range of 0-22,050 hz and for the sake of argument let's just say that encompasses the entire audible range of the human ear and then some.

NOW digest this motherfuckers!

http://www.roger-russell.com/truth/truth.htm#cd

In a nutshell, most cd players have shit for dac's and shit for filtering and the resulting audio image is shit. Anyone smart enough to possess a high-quality cd player with high resolution filtering SHOULD get much better imaging from the same source material..

But since we don't always own $8,000 digital-analog converters/filters, it's easier to buy turntables and enjoy analogue audio with all the nuances.


Thats anothing thing.. how many of us own peice of shit amplifiers/home theater systems? Most of these can barely handle the transients let alone sustained power required to listen to van halen at it's proper ear-bleeding level...

Getting rambly now, better stop. Check out the article and the rest of his site; extremely cool stuff and interesting stories from an engineer of a legendary audio and speaker manufacturer.

Not really, bro.....

CD's capture a snapshot, for lack of a better word, of the music at a rate of 44,100 snapshots a minute......it's done to a precision rate of 16 bits. So you only have so much space to capture the sound....it's not infinite. What can't be fit into those spaces is cut, clipped, compressed, or ignored altogether.

Analog sound is the way we hear things, so it's a natural sound for humans......records have a groove cut into them that mimics the actual waveform that we hear.

The difference would be storing your personal belongs in a weather tight climate controlled building as opposed to a shed that has a leaky roof and holes in the walls.......it'll get the job done but you'll lose some of your belongings in the process.

[wiseguy]

Available for pre-order on double LP gatefold!

http://www.store.livenation.com/Product.aspx?cp=13281_16771_54521&pc=XM03COMBO

I just ordered this LP to add to my collection. Then went to Amazon.com to order the cd/dvd deluxe edition. Already pre-ordered itunes copy and probably will buy cd when it comes out that day as us Canadians (eh) won't get any of the US ordered stuff till later. 30 years for a hundred fifty bucks...? Definetly worth it.

[T4GUITAR]

I downloaded the single on iTunes and now if I try to preorder the album it says I'll have to rebut tattoo, anyone else have this problem? Not a biggie but why should I pay for it twice. I'm already gonna pick up the cd on release day too.

[ZahZoo]

My fun budget is getting hit with this VH activity...

Bought the exclusive Kiwi version of Tattoo a day before the official release. Pre-ordered the Walmart CD + Shirt deal. Will most likely pick up the Deluxe edition CD + DVD locally when it's available...

My biggest dilemma is tour tickets... tough call... New set of golf clubs or a two hour show of Van Halen w/ Diamond Dave. Both offer an element of mixed fun and frustration. One for a couple of hours the other for a couple of years... Damn I hate making these value decisions with a limited budget!!!

[Seshmeister]

My fun budget is getting hit with this VH activity...

Bought the exclusive Kiwi version of Tattoo a day before the official release.

Times must be hard if you are worried about $2

[Mr Walker]

In theory we should not be able to distinguish any distortions/etc in a recording done at 44kHz/16bits.

First let me delve into your statement regarding samplerate/precision

44,100 snapshots per SECOND.

Times 16 bits. What exactly is the "Bit depth" anyhow? You know this but many do not. It's basically the number values each sample can have. 1 sample is 1/44100th of a second; infinitesimal. That sample could have 65,536 possible values in total, but inreality it's gotta account for phase, so 32,767 either way.

Sounds like a lot, it is a lot... then there's 24-bit precision. It's safe to say that whatever the exact level/value for any particular sample will be recorded EXACTLY.

With that having been said, let's just go ahead and say that the recording should be fucking PERFECT. 44,100hz samplerate translates to an effective frequency range of 0-22,050 hz and for the sake of argument let's just say that encompasses the entire audible range of the human ear and then some.

NOW digest this motherfuckers!

http://www.roger-russell.com/truth/truth.htm#cd

In a nutshell, most cd players have shit for dac's and shit for filtering and the resulting audio image is shit. Anyone smart enough to possess a high-quality cd player with high resolution filtering SHOULD get much better imaging from the same source material..

But since we don't always own $8,000 digital-analog converters/filters, it's easier to buy turntables and enjoy analogue audio with all the nuances.


Thats anothing thing.. how many of us own peice of shit amplifiers/home theater systems? Most of these can barely handle the transients let alone sustained power required to listen to van halen at it's proper ear-bleeding level...

Getting rambly now, better stop. Check out the article and the rest of his site; extremely cool stuff and interesting stories from an engineer of a legendary audio and speaker manufacturer.

Wow... that made my brain hurt.

I'll by the CD/DVD somewhere on release day and then wait for PBTHAL to do his vinyl rip of it.

[ZahZoo]

Times must be hard if you are worried about $2

Who's worried... just tallying up the outlay. You know that's just the spark... it ain't gonna stop there!!

[mohican]

This may already been mentioned here - I didn't read all the posts. Barnes and Noble will also carry the CD and CD+DVD at the stores and online.

[lurker..]

this may be in the wrong area.......and i haven't seen it here yet...but livenation is selling a limited edition collector vinyl of "A different kind of truth" ???....here is the link:

http://www.store.livenation.com/Product.aspx?cp=13281_16771_54521&pc=XM03COMBO

if this is old news...i am sorry in advance..

[lurker..]

never mind....thanks for dropping me in the right area...looks like i am waaaay behind on my news....

[CDABOAT1]

So... If I order ADKOT (Deluxe Version - $14.99) on iTunes, what am I actually getting? Is it just MP3's and videos of the downtown sessions? Or, are they sending me a hard copy CD and DVD?

I've never ordered a full album from iTunes so I'm not sure. I realize this is a basic question but I'm just not sure I'm 100% on what actually I'm getting in terms of hard copy and/or electronic copy.

Allright... your input appreciated.

Stay Frosty!

[ZahZoo]

I could be wrong but I assume they allow you to download the music and send/mail you a DVD.

[Mr Walker]

I think you get downloadable mp3s (music) and mov (video) files.

[Seshmeister]

I think we're starting to show our age a bit here guys, has someone a kid they can ask? :D

I was the same buying downloads from Amazon last night, I paid for them and then sat there thinking 'Well now what happens???'


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Y38vGdzicI0/Tld0QtaK_QI/AAAAAAAAANg/QSHi4Q2rqes/s320/%2528The%2BRevised%2529%2BTenbuckfuck%2BEdition.jp g

[ELVIS]

I've never bought a song file...

[ZahZoo]

Did a little research... on iTunes if you buy the Deluxe version you get Digital Downloads for all of it... music, movies and their digital booklet. Then you can rip/burn it as you see fit.

[So this is love]

I think we're starting to show our age a bit here guys, has someone a kid they can ask? :D

I was the same buying downloads from Amazon last night, I paid for them and then sat there thinking 'Well now what happens???'

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Y38vGdzicI0/Tld0QtaK_QI/AAAAAAAAANg/QSHi4Q2rqes/s320/%2528The%2BRevised%2529%2BTenbuckfuck%2BEdition.jp g

This is hilarious, I did the same, its like nothing was worth buying since the last 28 years ... it shows the world has changed in this time...

[wiseguy]

Did a little research... on iTunes if you buy the Deluxe version you get Digital Downloads for all of it... music, movies and their digital booklet. Then you can rip/burn it as you see fit.

I bought the "Tattoo" video on ITunes but you can't transfer it to Ipad or Ipod which blows. It only plays on the computer you download it too. So i'm thinking, maybe you won't be able to transfer the "Downtown sessions" to Ipad or Ipod....which again, would blow. I pre ordered the Itunes deluxe edition. We'll see what happens.

[Nitro Express]

This is hilarious, I did the same, its like nothing was worth buying since the last 28 years ... it shows the world has changed in this time...

Maybe it's part of the 2012 spiritual awakening all the new agers are talking about. We will move into a higher dimension of conscious musical awareness as the old control programs and Sammy Hagar are destroyed by the earth changes and go back into the void to pay for their bad karma. Van Halen is the fucking mother ship baybeee.

[wiseguy]

FYI. You can purchase the "downtown sessions-you really got me" off of I-Tunes now. In case you didn't know. I just purchased it but there is no video, just audio. I suspect, once I hook it to the PC it will play the video there. Weird. Anyway. Enjoy.

[gbranton]

Just wondering if anyone had seen this version?

http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/28102359/A-Different-Kind-Of-Truth/Product.html

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/soulflypremiere/vhslipcase1.jpg

[wiseguy]

Just wondering if anyone had seen this version?

http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/28102359/A-Different-Kind-Of-Truth/Product.html

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/soulflypremiere/vhslipcase1.jpg

Holy shit, that's another one I have to order now...damn.

[wiseguy]

It's only good in the UK.

[DavidLeeNatra]

Tattoo was the first peace of music I ever bought online...guess I left some kind of cave then...

[ashstralia]

whoever wrote the aussie jb hifi blurb clearly knows their shit! bravo


http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/music/pop-rock/different-kind-of-truth-a-deluxe-edition-mp3-offer/660748

[VanCanHalen]

Well just ordered the LP from live nation, will be getting the CD/DVD somewhere on opening day, might as well splurge its been sometime since a Vanhalen record was worth buying :rockit2:

[Sensible Shoes]

Tattoo was the first peace of music I ever bought online...guess I left some kind of cave then...

Me too! I was a font of dumb questions to make that happen too. welcome to the 21st century, right?

[chi-town324]

at least itunes isn't going anywhere... you own it digitally whatever that means

[wiseguy]

Just wondering if anyone had seen this version?

http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/28102359/A-Different-Kind-Of-Truth/Product.html

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/soulflypremiere/vhslipcase1.jpg

Has anyone optioned the idea that this may be the actual album cover and the train thing is on the back or on the inside? They did say the train is not the actual album cover but is based on what it will be correct? Or am I way off here?

[VanCanHalen]

Has anyone optioned the idea that this may be the actual album cover and the train thing is on the back or on the inside? They did say the train is not the actual album cover but is based on what it will be correct? Or am I way off here?

Anything is possible, but if I had to take a guess id say this is just a UK packaging difference, might be a slip cover as well, we shall see soon enough.

[mosh51501984]

I remember going to the record store at 12:00 am to buy Eat em and Smile do they still do that anymore? Have the record out at 12 am on release day and stay open extra late?

[DLR Bridge]

I'm hoping to grab it from Best Buy on 23rd and 6th Ave. on my lunch break. Does anyone know what versions of the release they will be carrying? Hoping to grab a deluxe with the Downtown sessions.

[Panamark]

No its not some cheesy Europe song, (well yeah it is, but thats for another thread)

We are all in the final countdown to have the holy grail in full.
Lets rejoice as we get em...
Its after 12:00 in Oz, the 3rd of Feb, but Itunes is saying
"pre-order, expected 3rd of february" Well it is the 3rd !!

Im not an itunes user, in fact I have only used it to buy this new ADKOT,
does anyone in the itunes world know if this means in another hour
its there ? Or sometime over the next 24 hours, or is it ready to go now??

I dont want to click the purchase link on preorder only to see it pop
up as ready to buy in ten minutes... But I dont want to stay awake
all night if they wont have it for another half day.. Anyone got
the skinny on how this apple itunes stuff works ??

[ELVIS]

I'm ordering it on vinyl now and gonna buy the cd on the 7th locally...

[Vinnie Velvet]

I'm ordering it on vinyl now and gonna buy the cd on the 7th locally...

I ordered the vinyl via the livenation site - unfortunately they said we won't get it until Feb 24th.

[ELVIS]

Yeah, I saw that...

[DavidLeeNatra]

did I mention that I already have it and that it is blasting again out of my speakers in "neighbours will call the police"-mode?

[sambo]

did I mention that I already have it and that it is blasting again out of my speakers in "neighbours will call the police"-mode?

LOL.. and me, are we the only 2? it's 3am here in Oz...and my neighbours are thinking the same..

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?64500

[DavidLeeNatra]

LOL.. and me, are we the only 2? it's 3am here in Oz...and my neighbours are thinking the same..

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?64500

guess so...I just claimed to be the very first one...but I share that with you ;)

(and I got the Deluxe Album :biggrin: )

[Yount]

I paid for the album fair and square but the "fuck" and "bitch" in Honeysweetiedoll is muted.

Should I be feeling ripped off? Has this album been released uncensored? I hope the fuck not.

[hambon4lif]

This is exactly why I'm going to Best Buy to pick up my copy instead of Walmart. As far as their movies and video games go, there's all the sex, violence, and profanity you could possibly want. However, for whatever reason, Walmart has a long infamous history of practicing censorship when it comes to their CD's. Not even Target, their main competitor, does that. They sell them 'as is' (pun intended).
Walmart has a nifty little deal that comes with a T-shirt, but it would piss me off to bring it home and discover I have a nice shirt, but a 'kiddie' version of ADKOT. Something tells me there's a shirt waiting to be bought that kicks that shirts ass anyways.....at the show.:thumb:

It may cost 2 or 3 more clams to purchase it at Best Buy, but why roll the fuckin' dice?
Or as Walmart would put it, roll the f****n' dice?

[chefcraig]

I'll more than likely split the difference, getting the shirt version (without the DVD) at Walmart, then popping over to Target or Best Buy for the CD/DVD edition. I've already promised the one from Walmart to a coworker anyway.

[SNIPER]

Any body know what the shirt/dvd/cd pack will cost? I will need to buy that Tuesday

[chefcraig]

Any body know what the shirt/dvd/cd pack will cost? I will need to buy that Tuesday

To the best of my knowledge, there ISN'T one. You have to purchase the CD/DVD and t shirt/CD only separately: WALMART SITE (http://http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng.do?search_query=van+halen&ic=16_0&Find=Find&search_constraint=4104)

And the ad contained in this weekend's paper makes no mention of a CD/DVD/Shirt all in one package.
http://localad.walmart.com/Walmart/Entry/Flash?

[SNIPER]

Ahh, I will have to buy two more cd's then. I have some friends with birthdays coming up.

[wiseguy]

I ordered the vinyl via the livenation site - unfortunately they said we won't get it until Feb 24th.

I did as well...so stoked!!!! I think it is not sent out till MARCH:jaw:23rd though.

[mdk1967]

[mdk1967]

Aussie ad

[dazzlindino]

hell ya......were's the space cadet now......

[IceCreamBlondie]

Not really - I find it good, though, that it could possibly be two albums of 35mins or so each. That would be like two old CVH albums.

It could just be to allow for more spaces between the grooves, so to speak. It's common with contemporary vinyl releases to be doubles, especially when CDs can be 70 min+. All the CVH albums were made before CD (or in the case of 1984, wasn't released initially on CD, so recorded / mastered with the limitations of vinyl in mind - anything over 35 mins, and the grooves have to be cut closer, and something gets lost sonically).

Could depend on length of the tunes on the album, though - 'Tattoo' is the single, and sometimes you'd say the single is usually one of the shorter tracks on any album by any band for radio-play purposes - but it's nearly 5 mins long. Those first six albums were all around 33-36 mins (Van Halen I the longest ... at a mere 35:13 mins, but again, that was common in pre-CD days).

The only longer songs than 'Tattoo' they recorded in the 6-pack are: 'Cradle Will Rock', 'Fools', and 'Mean Street'. Maybe it will be an album of longer cuts. MWM and CGTSNM are both longer, too - so maybe the trend is towards slightly longer tunes now.

As a vinyl lover, I thank you for the interesting info.

I've ordered my double LP red vinyl set already...

[qikgts]

Itunes is up!!!

[Douglas T.]

Has this been discussed?
http://www.store.ticketmaster.com/content/mlp/93/default.aspx

http://static.musictoday.com/store/bands/93/product_medium/XMLP02.JPG

[Julius]

Alright, as most of us know... ADKOT is being released on vinyl. I have the entire six pack and most of the singles on vinyl. Thanks, eBay!

Where can I buy a high quality turntable? It looks like records are making a comeback and I need to adjust my home entertainment system accordingly.

Any recommendations?

[Panamark]

Good topic ! I would like to hear various reviews myself.
I think if you are going all out analog again, gotta get a tube amp too :)

[Julius]

Good topic ! I would like to hear various reviews myself.
I think if you are going all out analog again, gotta get a tube amp too :)

Grate idea. I'm tempted to ditch my iPod... sounds too phony.

Even lossless format lacks the warmth and tone of a good old fashioned LP.

[Satan]

Here's a site with a shit load of turntable reviews on it. The site is aimed at DJ's, so presumably there would be some quality turntables mentioned here.

http://djturntablemixers.com/

[ZahZoo]

Alright, as most of us know... ADKOT is being released on vinyl. I have the entire six pack and most of the singles on vinyl. Thanks, eBay!

Where can I buy a high quality turntable? It looks like records are making a comeback and I need to adjust my home entertainment system accordingly.

Any recommendations?

You can find good turntables at most big electronics outfits like Best Buy, etc...

If you go with the older analog turntables... make sure your receiver has a true analog phono input. Today though most of the newer models offer both analog & USB outputs. I've never used one with USB output so I have no idea if there's any signal effect in the digital conversion...

I have an old late 70's Pioneer model and a mid-80's Technica... both are old school belt driven. With those the quality of the stylus was key.

[smorgdonkey]

Here's a site with a shit load of turntable reviews on it. The site is aimed at DJ's, so presumably there would be some quality turntables mentioned here.

http://djturntablemixers.com/

I have a 1980 Sony.

[vanfreak101]

this is one of the cheesest albums by far. what the fuck were they thinking when they did this album.? I think they better hang it up after this this. I listened to all them lame ass songs. stay frosty sounds like a fucking root beer commerical. Iam sadden by it an this tour is going to be a catastrophic train wreck. were have all the good times gone

[mmrrname]

I was just researching this today, here's the best link I found:
http://www.switched.com/2010/10/25/the-best-turntables-under-400-vinyl/

Whether you take one of their recommendations or not, I found this section extremely helpful. If you have a stereo store in your area, it's probably worth stopping in too:

"If you've spent more than a couple seconds cruising online for an opinion on a solid turntable, you are undoubtedly overwhelmed by the incredible array of options -- despite the supposed demise of vinyl three decades ago! (The correct term, by the way, if you want to fit in, is "turntable" and not "record player." Those are for kids.) The fact that vinyl didn't go extinct is a good thing, of course, as we ourselves love records and turntables. The complexity in buying then comes from the fact that turntables, despite being seemingly simple mechanical devices, are comprised of a handful of discrete mechanisms and components that are incredibly varied as you go from brand to brand and price range to price range. So, when you're in the market for a turntable, the sophisticated buyer will want to consider the elements that make up the whole. To name a few, there are the following: the drive system (belted or direct drive); the tonearm (straight or curved, hollow or solid); the cartridge type (ceramic, moving magnet, or moving coil); the platter (wood, metal, glass); and the plinth (i.e., the base of the player, made of metal, plastic, wood fiber or glass). And then there are the assorted electronics that go into it. Still with us?

We couldn't possibly say that any one combination of the above options is "best," but there are a few guidelines we can offer. The heavier a turntable base and platter are, the more stable and less likely they are to be affected by vibrations from a turntable's own mechanisms (or from you, as you clodhop around the house). DJs and amateur turntablists who want to get their wicki-wicki on will want a direct-drive motor, a high-powered motor connected directly to the platter. The rest of us, though, will prefer a belt-driven assembly, which helps to keep the motor from vibrating the platter (and record). Moving magnet and moving coil cartridges are always better than ceramic ones, and usually are replaceable and upgradable (but can also be extremely expensive). There are enough proponents of both straight and curved tonearms, meanwhile, that we won't argue one is better than the other. Ideally, though, you'll find one that you can balance by adjusting its counterweight. Finally, if you have a stereo receiver with a dedicated phono input, you won't need a turntable with a built-in preamp. If you don't, though, you'll want one that does. Otherwise, you'll have to shell out for a separate preamp, and add to your stack of home audio equipment."

[tap1966]

I just hope it's at J&R Music, because that's walking distance from my apartment.



I bought mine at J&R :)

[Sarge]

http://www.theneedledoctor.com for those wanting to buy a turntable.
I own a Rega RP3 with elysis cartridge.
http://www.needledoctor.com/Rega-RP3-Turntable
It's awesome and simple. Vinyl is much better than CD's and mp3's. (Not trying to sound like LOU)

You can buy ADKOT in vinyl from here
http://www.kqzyfj.com/click-640152-10642036