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Va Beach VH Fan
02-02-2012, 09:31 PM
Just makes you want to shake your head....

POJO_Risin
02-02-2012, 09:36 PM
Can you name the vice president...

"Something Bin Laden..."

Well played sir...well played...

Sensible Shoes
02-02-2012, 09:39 PM
Truly frightening.

Va Beach VH Fan
02-02-2012, 09:43 PM
The first question was bad enough, they were in Washington State !!

Seshmeister
02-02-2012, 09:43 PM
I've seen similar things done here with results just as bad.

It's kind of annoying when you suddenly realise that your vote is worth the exact same as theirs.

Seshmeister
02-02-2012, 09:45 PM
The statistic I found worst was that one in five American adults think that the sun goes around the earth.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/30/science/30profile.html?pagewanted=all

VAiN
02-02-2012, 09:56 PM
The fucked up part is these aren't inner city under-privileged hood rats - they seem to be mostly middle-class white kids. Maybe that's the other extreme, they're soft, lazy, and spend all day playing x-box..

POJO_Risin
02-02-2012, 10:02 PM
Don't get me started...

I remember...as a kid...actually being a bit inquisitive...granted...there weren't a lot of other things to do...not like today...

But fuck...if I'd have had the internet back then...

Not only would I have never had to steal porn from stores...

but fuck...

Whatever...we all know the education system sucks, and it's all the teacher's faults...

not the fucking lazy-ass fucking parents...that just turn on a fucking TV and walk away because they don't have time for their fucking kids...

...that...and the lazy-ass fucking kids themselves...

Terry
02-02-2012, 10:07 PM
Sure, these kids might not have a wide-ranging command of general information...but as long as they can text and are computer literate, they'll be alright. All that fancy-pants book learning never did nobody no good nohow.

VAiN
02-02-2012, 10:11 PM
Sure, these kids might not have a wide-ranging command of general information...but as long as they can text and are computer literate, they'll be alright. All that fancy-pants book learning never did nobody no good nohow.

4 reals.

I'll be turning 38 in a few months, and I have to say I really notice the generation gap. Kids (14-23) for the most part lack social skills. They just don't communicate face to face anymore. It's sad. I believe there's such a thing as too much info.. you just don't learn because you don't have to - just google that shit.

Sensible Shoes
02-02-2012, 10:25 PM
Just like in a recent computer website creation and management course I took - if you can't figure out the code - j ust google it - some techie has put together a website on it and you can just steal the code from them. What a joke. Weren't we supposed to really LEARN what we were doing?

Nickdfresh
02-02-2012, 10:28 PM
You've done made these kids all self-conscious regarding their apparent mental retardation, and the video is now private.

VAiN
02-02-2012, 10:34 PM
Just like in a recent computer website creation and management course I took - if you can't figure out the code - j ust google it - some techie has put together a website on it and you can just steal the code from them. What a joke. Weren't we supposed to really LEARN what we were doing?

Well, the internets are a little different.. open source code and all, but I get what you're saying.. You should at least know what the fuck you're doing - that's where the problem solving comes into play - versus just copy & paste...

Sensible Shoes
02-02-2012, 10:41 PM
In the teacher's defense, he was not a teacher, he was an industry guy teaching for the first time. He thought he was going too slow and boring us when in fact he was leaving us in the dust. And I'm sure in the real world, that's what everybody does. But like scales in music, you have to learn the fundamentals.

Va Beach VH Fan
02-02-2012, 10:44 PM
You've done made these kids all self-conscious regarding their apparent mental retardation, and the video is now private.

Yeah, the Roth Army made it private....

It was on the HuffPost....

VAiN
02-02-2012, 10:45 PM
And I'm sure in the real world, that's what everybody does. But like scales in music, you have to learn the fundamentals.

You're absolutely correct, you have to know what the fuck you're doing in general.. I'm not a web guy - I figure by the time I get a grasp on it, the people who are already great at it will have moved on to the next new technology and I'll still be far behind.. I have tremendous respect for hardcore coders, it's awesome to watch it in action. I stick to 'front-end' design and let the brains do their thing... can't have one without the other. Designers are typically terrible programners and programmers are typically terrible designers...

Sensible Shoes
02-02-2012, 10:50 PM
That was exactly where I got in trouble. I wanted a course in design, but this ended up to be website creation where much of the "design" ended up being from programs like "design for dummies". I really needed to go take a photoshop based course that would have led to more design oriented studies. But this is what comes of community colleges.

VAiN
02-02-2012, 11:40 PM
If you ever need a hand with some designy stuff, I'm always down to help...

Sensible Shoes
02-02-2012, 11:43 PM
I need a hand with a job in general.

Dr. Love
02-02-2012, 11:58 PM
I need a hand job in general too.

Sensible Shoes
02-03-2012, 12:02 AM
How rude. :)

knuckleboner
02-04-2012, 10:09 AM
I've seen similar things done here with results just as bad.

It's kind of annoying when you suddenly realise that your vote is worth the exact same as theirs.

sesh...unless it's for American/UK Idol, they don't vote...

VAiN
02-04-2012, 01:08 PM
sesh...unless it's for American/UK Idol, they don't vote...

Touché..

ZahZoo
02-04-2012, 03:20 PM
The statistic I found worst was that one in five American adults think that the sun goes around the earth.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/30/science/30profile.html?pagewanted=all

Must be Catholics who didn't support the pope's final admittance in 1972... yes 1972... that Galileo was indeed correct in 1615 and conceded that it is a fact not a possibility that the earth goes around the sun. Talk about staying power... the Roman Inquisition held up a long assed time.

Pennypacker
02-05-2012, 12:12 PM
Before I began attending Teachers College I volunteered in a local high school and taught a lesson on the French Revolution. While discussing everyones favourite, Napoleon, one kid raised his hand and asked:

Idiot: "But sir, this is the French Revolution"
Me: "It is, and the French empire that would inevitably..."
Idiot: "French? Didn't this guy find the US or its constitution or something?

Who's to blame for this!! It's pretty fucking sad that this basic history isn't understood by the time you're 17 and taking a "Western World" History course. I've seen it all through prior volunteering, and now student teaching. It wasn't this bad when I was still in high school only 5 years ago.