The "Thank You, Wolfgang" Thread

[Carmine]

I've thought about it...so here it is...the kid deserves his own thread for a lot of reasons...

We're all experiencing the sheer joy of A Different Kind of Truth...

Dave back in the fold for the last 6 years...

another impending tour...

The return of Van Halen...


We've all heard the story...The Ipod...the classic tunes with Dave...saying to his father "This is your best stuff...this is what we need to play...let's go jam on these tunes!" ...during a time when Ed was out of control...again....and in need of saving. Every Dad out there knows how much you always look up to and respect for own father and, when you have a son of your own....no matter how old they get...is always, always..your little boy. As a son...You never want to disappoint your father...and I'd say...as a father...you never want to disappoint your son...this relationship has brought us...Van Halen.

None of us will ever know what was really said or done between Ed and Wolfgang to get to this point...and we don't need too...you can see it in Ed's smile...the proof is in the music...the tours...the new album...moreso, the fact that Edward is still here and healthy...and, the fact that we all...as fans, get to enjoy it...as they smile at each other across the stage...and David Lee Roth is in the middle of that stage...

I had come to a point in the early 2000's to accepting the fact that it would never happen...ever...too much had happened...too much time wasted...too much shit to get over to ever make it happen...and then, out of nowhere...it did...the last 2 months have erased 28 years of agony...

We can all thank Wolfgang Van Halen for that...we can thank him for all of it...he started the Van Halen train rolling again...Dave, Ed and Al have found their way back on the ball together...and really seem to be enjoying each other!!

and uh...the kid can play...can't he...and on that point...you all can take it from here...

[ashstralia]

yeah!!!. wolfie rips on the bass in his dad's band, with uncle dave singing. win win

[atlantakat]

Agree 110% on this!

Wolfie gets huge credit for giving Ed a reason to pull back from the edge, getting Dave back in the band, doing the 07-08 tour clean and sober, Ed getting his chops back, the band going back to its roots and making new music and touring -- again with Ed clean and sober and on the top of his game.

No way the Edward that walked off the stage in Tucson at the last Sam show in 04 does any of the above.

And what about Wolfie's chops??? A key reason so many of the up-tempo boogies on ADKOT sounds like EEAS-era Roth is because Wolfie is channeling some Sheehan madness and tearing off crazy unison riffs with Ed. No way MA could pull that stuff off.

I read with interest the quote from the producer dude that Mike is a great guy but Wolf is responsible for making all of this possible.

That a father's love for his son saved this band is to me the most special and poignant angle on all of this serendipity.

Thanks Wolfgang.

[Carmine]

Agree 110% on this!

Wolfie gets huge credit for giving Ed a reason to pull back from the edge, getting Dave back in the band, doing the 07-08 tour clean and sober, Ed getting his chops back, the band going back to its roots and making new music and touring -- again with Ed clean and sober and on the top of his game.

No way the Edward that walked off the stage in Tucson at the last Sam show in 04 does any of the above.

And what about Wolfie's chops??? A key reason so many of the up-tempo boogies on ADKOT sounds like EEAS-era Roth is because Wolfie is channeling some Sheehan madness and tearing off crazy unison riffs with Ed. No way MA could pull that stuff off.

I read with interest the quote from the producer dude that Mike is a great guy but Wolf is responsible for making all of this possible.

That a father's love for his son saved this band is to me the most special and poignant angle on all of this serendipity.

Thanks Wolfgang.

First post ever?? Well, hell...welcome to Army!

[Mr Walker]

Amen!

[sadaist]

No way the Edward that walked off the stage in Tucson at the last Sam show in 04 does any of the above.





I really thought after that sad night that the next outing for EVH would be his funeral.

Anyways, great post! 1st post & you hit a whopper. Good job!

[fryingdutchman]

Wolfie is the reason for the season...no doubt about that.

He pulled his dads head out of the sand and showed him the way. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Not only did he save the music, but he also probably saved Ed's life. Ed is a lifetime away from his "porn soundtrack" days...playing impromptu gigs at flower shops dressed like a homeless drug addict. He's turned it around 180 degrees since 2004, and I have to believe that Wolfie is the reason.

This lineup kicks ass. Wolfie and his dad have a musical synergy that is mind-blowing to hear...and I might even venture to say that he's brought something to the band that not even Michael Anthony had.

Listen to some of the track when Ed's ripping away and tapping his brains out..... Wolfie is right there with him on the bass, and sometimes even matching him note for note.

I don't want to discount Anthony's contributions, because they were big and I still miss him to some extent. But Wolfie has brought something to the table that makes all of this even more exciting.

I raise my glass to Wolfgang.

THANKS, KID!

[fryingdutchman]

Agree 110% on this!

Wolfie gets huge credit for giving Ed a reason to pull back from the edge, getting Dave back in the band, doing the 07-08 tour clean and sober, Ed getting his chops back, the band going back to its roots and making new music and touring -- again with Ed clean and sober and on the top of his game.

No way the Edward that walked off the stage in Tucson at the last Sam show in 04 does any of the above.

And what about Wolfie's chops??? A key reason so many of the up-tempo boogies on ADKOT sounds like EEAS-era Roth is because Wolfie is channeling some Sheehan madness and tearing off crazy unison riffs with Ed. No way MA could pull that stuff off.

I read with interest the quote from the producer dude that Mike is a great guy but Wolf is responsible for making all of this possible.

That a father's love for his son saved this band is to me the most special and poignant angle on all of this serendipity.

Thanks Wolfgang.

Damn...son!! Hell of a first post.

I didn't even read it thoroughly before I posted mine, and we posted virtually the same sentiments.

The bass riffs in unison with Ed is fucking incredible.

[Nitro Express]

I really thought after that sad night that the next outing for EVH would be his funeral.

Anyways, great post! 1st post & you hit a whopper. Good job!

I don't know what kind of drugs these celebs get on now but I think Keith Richards is right when he said the drugs now aren't worth the bother because the quality sucks. He said the drugs in the 70's were way better.

I have a hunch Ed was buying cocaine and was getting shit cut with crystal meth or who knows what.

[ELVIS]

Maybe we should do a poll on which one of us is Wolfgang...


:elvis:

[pkolb]

I thought “Sauce” Soboleski was irreplaceable, but Wolfie proved me wrong.

[vandeleur]

Some fucking great posts here and am 100% behind you guys Wolfie gets the plaudits for starting this and keeping this together

[scottydabodi]

Great thread!! Wolf deserves a huge mountain of credit for the current state of VH. Wolf loves CVH and is a HUGE factor in the return of Dave. If Mikey was still in the band, you can bet yer sweet bippie that DLR would not. Mikey wants his boyfriend on vocals, even if the rest of the logical universe does not. Rock on, Wolf!!! You've turned rock music on its ear with the return of VH in prime form!!

[Zing!]

Absolutely. The kid earned my respect from 'She's The Woman' alone, not to mention the next eleven tracks. Thanks WVH!

[jhale667]

Totally agree, we have Wolfie to thank for this. So -


THANKS, WOLFIE!!! :yo:

I'd also agree he's slightly more proficient than MA -not to discredit Sauce AT ALL... the unison licks are killer... and in addition to how well he vibes with Ed, has anyone else noticed how in sync he and Al are? It's kinda f*ing eerie once you see it up close - now I see why they're calling their new publishing company "3 twins"!

[DLR'sCock]

Credit where credit is due, and WOLF is the reason why Dave is back where he belongs fronting the mighty VH.

Thank You Wolf!

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Sure Wolf deserves this thread at least! Hadn't he wished Dave's comeback so hard, VH's train would be in a final dead end.

And he's improved his playing and presence a damn lot! It's so cool to see him so self-assured with his dad and uncles!

For a few weeks I've thought of starting a thread open to thank Wolfgang but didn't,
thanks Carmine for doing it!

[THEDOCTOR]

I said it in '07 and I will reiterate my thoughts from the way back time machine.
Here's a toast to you Jr,for recognizing Dave's contribution and how great Classic VH's sound was.
You are shredding on this new album and I say to you.....
Enjoy the money the fame and the hot chick groupies. For what you helped make possible,you deserve it.

[diamondsgirl]

Yes! here's to Wolf! :cheers:

So many people still do not realize that without Wolf's suggestion, there would be no VH today. So many people still criticize Ed for "replacing" Mike with Wolf. They just dont fucking get it!

I am glad that we do!!

Nice thread Ragu! ;)

[SNIPER]

If Ed did not bang Val that night we would not have VH now!! Thanks to Ed, Val, and Wolfie. hehe

[pkolb]

If Val had not drank those wine coolers that night, she would not have banged Ed. Thank you Bartles & James!

[sadaist]

Maybe we should do a poll on which one of us is Wolfgang...


:elvis:

Not me.

I don't have a girlfriend, nor if I did would I be caught dead thanking her first on my album sleeve.



sheesh...what an ass. No wonder I have no womens.

[chi-town324]

the great thing is that Wolfie is young....meaning he energizes the band....keeps the older guys going,..and will keep it going for years to come! We owe you one dude !!! Thank-you!!!

[BumBahDeeDah]

I already tweeted a thanks @wolfvanhalen, but seriously, not meaning to be mean to MA, although his vocals are signature,CVH's biggest components are EDWARD VAN HALEN AND DIAMOND DAVID LEE ROTH. Is chickenfoot ruling the world because of those high pitched background vocals? The plodding bass lines? I don't know if Michael Anthony can't play " China Town" but it doesnt seem like Ed thought he could. I've got a feeling Wolf just goes and does it.

It took Wolfgang Van Halen to get that pair together. Dave already wanted to. If you listened to the radio show, you heard whenever VH was brought up.

In an old interview Dave said something about Ed and Alex playing together was like locking into the genetic code to make music. Now with this new underage bass player its. ........ description defying. Add to that, things are just better with Roth. I don't know what goes on with them, if Dave suggests or if Eddie feels a certain way, but Eddie is just a different sound and energy when the Diamond is a part of it. They're all musical family.

And it's all Wolf's fault.

[SparkieD]

I'd like to thank Wolfie for all the practice he's put in over the past few years and proven that =VH= tastes best without Sauce.

[ZahZoo]

Hey Wolfgang... Thanks kid!!

Keep the beat pounding...

[Douglas T.]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/420407_10150586883108926_140525253925_8920154_1911 789172_n.jpg

[ZahZoo]

This picture says it all...

http://cbswjmk.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/138567780_10.jpg?w=600

WTF Douglas T... queue creepy Twilight Zone music...

[SNIPER]

This picture says it all...

http://cbswjmk.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/138567780_10.jpg?w=600

WTF Douglas T... queue creepy Twilight Zone music...

it says Is that Wolf on the screen? he is huge!

[Douglas T.]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/398494_10150586885798926_140525253925_8920196_1579 632722_n.jpg

[Sensible Shoes]

it says Is that Wolf on the screen? he is huge!

Think he's on the drum riser.

[Golden AWe]

Think he's on the drum riser.

he accidently stepped on top of his uncle Alex

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Missed meeting him by like 10-15 minutes after the show... Brett got a pic with his wife with him....

[guwapo_rocker]

brenty brett gets everything.

[chi-town324]

Missed meeting him by like 10-15 minutes after the show... Brett got a pic with his wife with him....

must have been a great time!!

[K1469]

I have 2 sons 22 and 18 and they both are my reason for living and im sure when Ed had a chance to have Wolfgang be in the band if he wanted to be it was the greatest thrill of both their lives. I always liked Michael Anthony and his background vocals but we all know Ed either played or showed him what to play on bass and once Mike stuck hi head up Sam's ass he picked a side. I hope the critics give Wolf the credit he deserves and if he ever goes solo I will support him no matter what. I hope that this CD and tour is the greatest ever but no matter what having Dave and Ed releasing a new CD is something I have waited on so lpng and I honestly couldnt be happier with the whole CD! I still cant decide what song I like the best?!!! I do think that Blood and Fire would make the best single to release next to the public. I think its a chart topper for sure but no matter what life is so much better when Van Halen is on top!
THANKS WOLF!!!!

[Va Beach VH Fan]

brenty brett gets everything.

No, my fault for leaving too early....

Damn early flights...

[Dan]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/398494_10150586885798926_140525253925_8920196_1579 632722_n.jpg

Uncle Dave And Wolfie.:D :hitch:

[sadaist]

things are just better with Roth..


I'll drink to that!

[dave_is_vh]

Dave is saying "Thanks Wolf for getting me my new job. I truly appreciate it!"


https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/398494_10150586885798926_140525253925_8920196_1579 632722_n.jpg

[dave_is_vh]

I would like to thank Wolf for his fancy fretwork 3 minutes into Beats Workin.

[pkolb]

http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd407/ulaes/studio-1.jpg

[Angel]

Thanks Wolf, and forget what Sadaist said about thanking Olivia. Damn, playing like that... Wolf IS a sexy cat!

[Dave's Bitch]

Good stuff Wolfie,Keep it up.Just make sure you keep your nose clean on tour ya :)

[Yount]

Just like any bowl of cherries when the cream is rising to the top

[jhale667]

http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd407/ulaes/studio-1.jpg

:lmao:

[Hummarstra]

Wolfie is doing great. I just wish it was easier to hear his playing on the new album.

[Jetstream]

If Michael Anthony were to come back to Van Halen, get him a mic stand in the corner because Wolfgang at 20 years old is a better bass player, it is that simple

[dave_is_vh]

Sobeleski should be Wolf's roadie and bbq chef.

[Zing!]

Sobeleski should be Wolf's roadie and bbq chef.

Heh heh... classic.

[chi-town324]

oh yea the kid can fuckin play!

[tap1966]

1985-2006 sucked (other than MWM and CGTSNM)
2007-now, especially 2012 has ruled.

Thank you Wolfgang!

[VanCanHalen]

Yes, Wolf 2 massive thumbs up, we all thank you for pulling the strings and helping this all come together, enjoy the tour

[ashstralia]

Wolfie is doing great. I just wish it was easier to hear his playing on the new album.

as mork used to say; 'ar ar, sarcasm!'

it's like evh contributed guitar to a wolf solo album featuring david lee roth:)

[chi-town324]

the tour will be epic for sure

[Panamark]

So many haters towards Wolf.
Only one way to shut them up.
He did it.

Fucking killer bass synced to the Van Halen pulse by blood.

Backing vox is not MA, but its good enough.

Thankyou Wolfgang, great to see you rocking with your Dad and Uncle.
Rhythm section tighter than a fishes butthole.....

Obvious respect for Dave, who you can see respects the heck out of you.

The Wolf Army is already launching. Thanks for saving the band.

:thumb:

[fourthcoming]

Still have a soft spot for M.A. but thank you Wolf. Thank you for buggin' out on your pops last tour for falling off the wagon. Thank you for knowing enough as a kid growing up listening to VH that there can only be one version of VH and that's the one fronted by Uncle Dave. Thank you for putting the work in since the last tour and playing killer bass lines on ADKOT and thank you for having a decent enough voice to pull off background vocals. Thank you for having a decent enough head on your shoulders and for not being some spoiled, unproductive, born with a silver fuckin spoon in your mouth like the rest of most famous people's children seem to be. Thank you for being famous not just for being famous like so many 20 something good for nothing Idiots seem to be in Hollywoood these days.

[Golden AWe]

Wolfie has done ONLY GOOD THINGS for Van Halen...all the other three have their sins.

Keep up the good work, Wolfie!!!

[Terry]

The more I think about it, the more I agree with others that the value of having Wolf in the band re: Ed's mental state can't be underestimated.

The kid is playing like a motherfucker on the new record. Let's hope he's a bit higher in the mix live this time around.

Hypothetical scenarios/roads not taken...I too doubt the band would be where it is today if Anthony had stuck around. Wolf's presence clearly gives Ed a boost and degree of pleasure that is only a plus.

[CreatureFrmTheC]

i do not know if anyone has done this yet...but I wold officially love to welcome Wolfgang Van Halen to the band!!!! Rock it kid, you've earned you spot!!!

[lien]

Yes

- the bass on the new masterpiece is impressive----and the sound ---wolfie knows his part

[DavidLeeNatra]

http://www.photochopz.com/gallery/data/500/gaythreadsimmons.jpg

[fryingdutchman]

i do not know if anyone has done this yet...


Nope...all of us missed it.

Thousands of members who have followed Van Halen like a religion for the last 30+ years were completely ignorant to the fact that Wolfie is in the band and playing extremely well on ADKOT.

Good catch, bro' !!! You're a forum superhero...

http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/rr239/lallen3/super-retard.jpg

[Carmine]

i do not know if anyone has done this yet...but I wold officially love to welcome Wolfgang Van Halen to the band!!!! Rock it kid, you've earned you spot!!!


http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?64598-The-quot-Thank-You-Wolfgang-quot-Thread

We have...but it never gets old...he certainly deserves high praise...:thumb:

[fryingdutchman]

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?64598-The-quot-Thank-You-Wolfgang-quot-Thread

We have...but it never gets old...he certainly deserves high praise...:thumb:

You're so nice, Carmine!

Almost to a fault....

;)

[Carmine]

Alright...your Superman "Corky from Life Goes on look-a-like" pic did make me laugh, Dutch!!

[sadaist]

We have...but it never gets old...he certainly deserves high praise...:thumb:


Aye

Kid is ripping it up on the new album. So great to put all the doubts from the 07/08 tour in the garbage. This band is firing on all cylinders. Wolf deserves massive amounts of props.

[fryingdutchman]

Alright...your Superman "Corky from Life Goes on look-a-like" pic did make me laugh, Dutch!!

Glad to hear it, man.

Sometimes I can't control my compulsion to be a real prick....but in the end it's only rock and roll and it's all in good fun.

[jazzin0927]

I hear ya people and I agree with all the nice things that have been said towards Wolfie, And I agree that the kid is very talented. But to me without Mike Anthony it's not Van Halen. Well let me specify it is a form of Van Halen but not the real deal. I miss the soaring harmonies and MA overall personality in the band. So I guess I'm going to get flamed here folks but it is what it is (in my world anyway!!) Better then nothing but not as cool as it could have been!!!!

[DavidLeeNatra]

I hear ya people and I agree with all the nice things that have been said towards Wolfie, And I agree that the kid is very talented. But to me without Mike Anthony it's not Van Halen. Well let me specify it is a form of Van Halen but not the real deal. I miss the soaring harmonies and MA overall personality in the band. So I guess I'm going to get flamed here folks but it is what it is (in my world anyway!!) Better then nothing but not as cool as it could have been!!!!

don't worry...your post is so lame that nobody will bother flaming you...stay frosty...

[jazzin0927]

Make a statement that a original member was left out of a reunion tour for a really LAME reason and get a hateful response...jeez. Just a general statement that everyone keeps talking about the great VH reunion and its not a reunion. It's a side project folks..........Guess I should have posted this on a Michael Anthony Thread as opposed to a Thank Wolfgang thread.....Sorry.....


Sincerely,
Bob Anthony (Mike's Uncle-jk)

[DavidLeeNatra]

Make a statement that a original member was left out of a reunion tour for a really LAME reason and get a hateful response...jeez. Just a general statement that everyone keeps talking about the great VH reunion and its not a reunion. It's a side project folks..........Guess I should have posted this on a Michael Anthony Thread as opposed to a Thank Wolfgang thread.....Sorry.....


Sincerely,
Bob Anthony (Mike's Uncle-jk)

:sleepy:

[Carmine]

I hear ya people and I agree with all the nice things that have been said towards Wolfie, And I agree that the kid is very talented. But to me without Mike Anthony it's not Van Halen. Well let me specify it is a form of Van Halen but not the real deal. I miss the soaring harmonies and MA overall personality in the band. So I guess I'm going to get flamed here folks but it is what it is (in my world anyway!!) Better then nothing but not as cool as it could have been!!!!


I can agree, in part, with what you've said here. Certainly the ORIGINAL 4 members of Van Halen re-united would be a dream come true for any fan. But...the point of my THANK YOU to Wolfgang is due to the fact that he alone brought his father, and in turn, Van Halen and David Lee Roth back together in 2006...

A sober Edward...thanks to Wolf

A new album is ripping off your earlobes on a daily basis...thanks to Wolf

2 Tours now...thanks to Wolf

No slag on Michael Anthony what-so-ever...none...he is an original member and will always be aces in my book...

the point here was simply...without Wolfgang...there would be nothing Van Halen...

and he deserves some praise for helping to bring the above 3 points...

it has nothing to do with Mike...

[DavidLeeNatra]

...it has nothing to do with Mike...

well...it has...a bit at least...he hangs around with the wrong people...here is a recent chickenpoof tour foto of mike and hagar:

http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/John+Lennon+New+York+City+Years+Exhibit+Preview+JN D0MIy4r7il.jpg

[Carmine]

Yo Ko, you didn't!?! :lmao:

[vandeleur]

:lmao:

[DavidLeeNatra]

but I like hagar more when he's sporting the goatie:

http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/19500/Bette-Midler--19871.jpg

[letsrock]

Love the unison rips they do. Great new album, the kid has skills.

[kelliem78]

Hey Carmine thanks for your respectful post to Jazzin as you are 100% correct. And DavidLee Natra stop being a Assh*&e!

[DavidLeeNatra]

Hey Carmine thanks for your respectful post to Jazzin as you are 100% correct. And DavidLee Natra stop being a Assh*&e!

what a great first post! welcome to the army! and now...

http://www.oddpic.com/data/510/shut-the-fuck-up.jpg

[conmee]

Brethren and Sistren,

Can DLNatra be an asshole? Sure. Can he be a huge pole-smoking prick? Perhaps. Does he lack refinement and social graces? Undoubtably. However, I have to agree and support Brother DLNatra 107.5%...

This is a Thank You Wolfgang Appreciation Thread for chrissake! If you want to ride Sobolewskis jock and pine for his "soaring" vocals then do it in the fucking Dump or House Of Music or some other place, any place else really.

Fuck Saucebolewski! That cunt made his bed, feel free to join him in it... Let's see, "good guy" MA leverages the band name and pedigree as "The Other Half," sells his sauce, and has the BALLS to fucking show up to accept a HALL OF FAME INDUCTION when all he did was play bass and backing vox in the greatest band ever, while THE heart and soul of the band, Edward Van Halen, was dealing with loss, divorce, health, addiction, depression!!!! Where the fuck was MA when Edward was on his literal death bed? Out playing EDWARD'S songs with Sammy and selling fucking sauce and accepting accolades for which he only played a bit part! Are you fucking kidding me?!?!

Want to talk about the definition of a reunion and dispute or discuss the merits pro and con of the current lineup and MA's exclusion, all valid topics, but not in this thread!

Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit...

That is all.

Icon~

P.S. Stash is running low and I'm on edge....

[DavidLeeNatra]

Brethren and Sistren,

Can DLNatra be an asshole? Sure. Can he be a huge pole-smoking prick? Perhaps. Does he lack refinement and social graces? Undoubtably.

now I got this:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WQ4rJNemT6k/TpeKBU2mD0I/AAAAAAAABLs/Tjg8XEHF9JY/s1600/medal-of-honor+1.jpg

[ZahZoo]

Brethren and Sistren,

Can DLNatra be an asshole? Sure. Can he be a huge pole-smoking prick? Perhaps. Does he lack refinement and social graces? Undoubtably. However, I have to agree and support Brother DLNatra 107.5%...

This is a Thank You Wolfgang Appreciation Thread for chrissake! If you want to ride Sobolewskis jock and pine for his "soaring" vocals then do it in the fucking Dump or House Of Music or some other place, any place else really.

Fuck Saucebolewski! That cunt made his bed, feel free to join him in it... Let's see, "good guy" MA leverages the band name and pedigree as "The Other Half," sells his sauce, and has the BALLS to fucking show up to accept a HALL OF FAME INDUCTION when all he did was play bass and backing vox in the greatest band ever, while THE heart and soul of the band, Edward Van Halen, was dealing with loss, divorce, health, addiction, depression!!!! Where the fuck was MA when Edward was on his literal death bed? Out playing EDWARD'S songs with Sammy and selling fucking sauce and accepting accolades for which he only played a bit part! Are you fucking kidding me?!?!

Want to talk about the definition of a reunion and dispute or discuss the merits pro and con of the current lineup and MA's exclusion, all valid topics, but not in this thread!

Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit...

That is all.

Icon~

P.S. Stash is running low and I'm on edge....

Good thing you went easy on the boy and held the diplomatic line... He'd be walkin bow-legged for a month if you really let loose on him!! ;)

[whatthefuck]

I just read on this forum that if we offend you we don't care because we believe in free speech.....what a fucking joke...I post something you don't agree with and then you ban my account so I can't reply to your rant. What happened to clear debate not just "boy I'm going go off on this guy tell him what's up and then drop him before he can respond".......Nice....My response to Carmine's response to the post would have been "your right this is a Wofie thread, unappropiate and I apologize" but that's right I couldn't do it because I was locked out....Man you guy's showed me. Of course when I don't reply back to whatever response I get here it's because this account is banned. Seems like free speech only applies to the mods around here folks. By the way not so many years ago this site was slamming EVH for all the shit he was doing to Dave. Now it's a big EV love fest (It's the ROTH ARMY for fucks sake), and NO SHIT EVH is the soul behind VH who the hell said he wasn't. And I get the fact that you (although Conmee - Damn you really hate him) don't like MA for whatever reason. But just because someone brings up the fucking elephant in the room that he's an original member not in the "Reunion tour" doesn't mean that I'm slitting throats. Wrong place to post that's true wasn't thinking! But let's not act like you guy's believe in free speech. The only thing I really agreed with in Conmee's post was "Can DLNatra be an asshole? Sure. Can he be a huge pole-smoking prick? Perhaps." Thats very true. By the way the only way I'll walk bow legged is when my BIG BALLS get in the way.

[perrin29]

Wolf is playing his ass off on this tour and laid down some really cool shit on the record. Looking forward to seeing some of NYC clips the next few days.

[conmee]

Brethren and Sistren,

Even if one posts shit in the wrong thread or of a controversial nature, no one gets banned for that. If there is a legitimate "free speech" complaint, PM a webbie. The only cases of people getting banned are spambots and roboaliases. And occasionally VA just doesn't like you.

Lastly, I don't hate MA. I think a true/original reunion would be totally rad (as we used to say back in the '80s). But he's not completely without fault for how things have gone down. In any event, there are unlimited places/threads on this very site to scrub his sack and play the what/if/coulda/woulda/shoulda game. Just preferrably not in this thread.

That is all.

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[DavidLeeNatra]

Brethren and Sistren,

Even if one posts shit in the wrong thread or of a controversial nature, no one gets banned for that. If there is a legitimate "free speech" complaint, PM a webbie. The only cases of people getting banned are spambots and roboaliases. And occasionally VA just doesn't like you.

Lastly, I don't hate MA. I think a true/original reunion would be totally rad (as we used to say back in the '80s). But he's not completely without fault for how things have gone down. In any event, there are unlimited places/threads on this very site to scrub his sack and play the what/if/coulda/woulda/shoulda game. Just preferrably not in this thread.

That is all.

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but I am still an asshole!

[kwame k]

At least ya got that going for ya:biggrin:

[SNIPER]

I just read on this forum that if we offend you we don't care because we believe in free speech.....what a fucking joke...I post something you don't agree with and then you ban my account so I can't reply to your rant. What happened to clear debate not just "boy I'm going go off on this guy tell him what's up and then drop him before he can respond".......Nice....My response to Carmine's response to the post would have been "your right this is a Wofie thread, unappropiate and I apologize" but that's right I couldn't do it because I was locked out....Man you guy's showed me. Of course when I don't reply back to whatever response I get here it's because this account is banned. Seems like free speech only applies to the mods around here folks. By the way not so many years ago this site was slamming EVH for all the shit he was doing to Dave. Now it's a big EV love fest (It's the ROTH ARMY for fucks sake), and NO SHIT EVH is the soul behind VH who the hell said he wasn't. And I get the fact that you (although Conmee - Damn you really hate him) don't like MA for whatever reason. But just because someone brings up the fucking elephant in the room that he's an original member not in the "Reunion tour" doesn't mean that I'm slitting throats. Wrong place to post that's true wasn't thinking! But let's not act like you guy's believe in free speech. The only thing I really agreed with in Conmee's post was "Can DLNatra be an asshole? Sure. Can he be a huge pole-smoking prick? Perhaps." Thats very true. By the way the only way I'll walk bow legged is when my BIG BALLS get in the way.

Fucking jackass!!! :biggrin:

[conmee]

but I am still an asshole!

Yeah, but here, that's like a badge of honor, Nat...

That is all.

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[Golden AWe]

I actually wish I'd meet Wolfie one day. Perhaps more than DLR and Eddie. I could ask him about the size of his role on how VH and Dave got back together. And then shake hands and thank him personally, and wish him luck.

[chi-town324]

the kids backing vocals helped Dave quite a bit in Chicago!

[DavidLeeNatra]

Yeah, but here, that's like a badge of honor, Nat...

That is all.

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that's why I wanted to state that clear!

:biggrin:

[mdk1967]

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/van-halen-wolfgang-valerie-bertinelli-interview/

She'e right.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Since her ex-husband Eddie Van Halen so far isn’t doing any interviews in support of his band’s new album and tour, Valerie Bertinelli called into WRIF Detroit’s Drew and Mike show to talk about how the band, and specifically their son Wolfgang, is doing out on the road.

The ‘Hot in Cleveland’ actress was proud to talk about her son’s skills – “Wolfie can definitely back up everything with his playing, you can’t deny that he is an excellent bass player and an excellent musician, his voice is amazing.”

She also addressed Van Halen fans upset that her son took over founding bassist Michael Anthony’s role in the band, and explained it’s the only way Eddie would be making musical publicly. “I loved Mike too, I thought he was a really nice guy, still do,” Bertinelli explains. “But the only way this tour is happening is because Eddie gets to play with his son Wolfie. Otherwise, this tour wouldn’t be going on, it really wouldn’t.”

According to her, the lure of playing music with their son is the main factor that convinced the guitar wizard to get the band back together: “This brings joy to Ed, and that’s what he wants to do now, just have fun playing. As great as Mike is, this wouldn’t be happening if Mike was still in the band.”

She also has a message “for any of the fans that are truly angry that Mike’s not in the band… at least they get to see a version of the band. You’re getting to see Dave and Ed and Al play together. I know I’m a little prejudiced but.. my son kicks ass! And Ed’s playing better than ever, you’ve gotta give him that.”

As to how the about-to-be 21 Wolfgang is doing on the road, well, shocker, “he’s having the time of his life. I try to tell him not to read the internet, but he reads some of the horrible things that people say, no matter what they’re not going to be pleased. I try to tell him, ‘you’re not going to please everybody, it’s impossible.’ Especially people who are so passionate about this band. But he’s having such a great time, I think those naysayer voices are fading quickly in the back.”

She also revealed that her son has been taking lots of vocal courses — “he does his homework!” — and got his high school degree just recently after missing much of the 11th grade due to being out on the band’s 2007/08 tour.

Did she have any words of warning for her former sparring partner David Lee Roth, about how to treat her child on the road? “No, Dave doesn’t need to have any words from me. He’s a grown man, he knows how to treat people. Everything with Dave is water under the bridge. I think he’s doing an amazing job. I run into him very infrequently, but when we do it’s always pleasant.”

As to why she’s so friendly with her ex and his bandmates: “With age comes wisdom, I guess. I always choose to look at the good side. These are really great people. This is my son. I just want him to be happy. And this is a dream come true for Ed.”

[Catfish]

I don't trust a thing that whore says!

[mdk1967]

Wolf on drums too?! DAMN!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNXbxE2zaSU

[NIN1211]

Since her ex-husband Eddie Van Halen so far isn’t doing any interviews in support of his band’s new album and tour, Valerie Bertinelli called into WRIF Detroit’s Drew and Mike show to talk about how the band, and specifically their son Wolfgang, is doing out on the road.

The ‘Hot in Cleveland’ actress was proud to talk about her son’s skills – “Wolfie can definitely back up everything with his playing, you can’t deny that he is an excellent bass player and an excellent musician, his voice is amazing.”

She also addressed Van Halen fans upset that her son took over founding bassist Michael Anthony’s role in the band, and explained it’s the only way Eddie would be making musical publicly. “I loved Mike too, I thought he was a really nice guy, still do,” Bertinelli explains. “But the only way this tour is happening is because Eddie gets to play with his son Wolfie. Otherwise, this tour wouldn’t be going on, it really wouldn’t.”

According to her, the lure of playing music with their son is the main factor that convinced the guitar wizard to get the band back together: “This brings joy to Ed, and that’s what he wants to do now, just have fun playing. As great as Mike is, this wouldn’t be happening if Mike was still in the band.”

She also has a message “for any of the fans that are truly angry that Mike’s not in the band… at least they get to see a version of the band. You’re getting to see Dave and Ed and Al play together. I know I’m a little prejudiced but.. my son kicks ass! And Ed’s playing better than ever, you’ve gotta give him that.”

As to how the about-to-be 21 Wolfgang is doing on the road, well, shocker, “he’s having the time of his life. I try to tell him not to read the internet, but he reads some of the horrible things that people say, no matter what they’re not going to be pleased. I try to tell him, ‘you’re not going to please everybody, it’s impossible.’ Especially people who are so passionate about this band. But he’s having such a great time, I think those naysayer voices are fading quickly in the back.”

She also revealed that her son has been taking lots of vocal courses — “he does his homework!” — and got his high school degree just recently after missing much of the 11th grade due to being out on the band’s 2007/08 tour.

Did she have any words of warning for her former sparring partner David Lee Roth, about how to treat her child on the road? “No, Dave doesn’t need to have any words from me. He’s a grown man, he knows how to treat people. Everything with Dave is water under the bridge. I think he’s doing an amazing job. I run into him very infrequently, but when we do it’s always pleasant.”

As to why she’s so friendly with her ex and his bandmates: “With age comes wisdom, I guess. I always choose to look at the good side. These are really great people. This is my son. I just want him to be happy. And this is a dream come true for Ed.”

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As to why she’s so friendly with her ex and his bandmates: “With age comes wisdom, I guess. I always choose to look at the good side. These are really great people. This is my son. I just want him to be happy. And this is a dream come true for Ed.”

Shit SPAM SHOULD BE A GENIUS!!!!!

[Catfish]

As to why she’s so friendly with her ex and his bandmates: “With age comes wisdom, I guess. I always choose to look at the good side. These are really great people. This is my son. I just want him to be happy. And this is a dream come true for Ed.”

That's funny. Not really what she was communicating in '07-'08 when she oh-so-conveniently timed the release of her tell-all book and its promotional tour ALONG WITH the Van Halen tour (providing even more distractions for Wolfie, who was then only 16!). I guess she can say things like this when there's nothing for her to promote.

BITCH!

[Catfish]

And another reason Val is incorrect: There would be no Van Halen without DAVID LEE ROTH!

[SunisinuS]

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/van-halen-wolfgang-valerie-bertinelli-interview/

She'e right.


Damn straight she is. Water unders deh bridge I says.

The Band that I came to see is back together.

Wolfie is part of that band.

[SunisinuS]

That's funny. Not really what she was communicating in '07-'08 when she oh-so-conveniently timed the release of her tell-all book and its promotional tour ALONG WITH the Van Halen tour (providing even more distractions for Wolfie, who was then only 16!). I guess she can say things like this when there's nothing for her to promote.

BITCH!

Really. How many times have you met her? Ever go out with her? Marry her? Just have lunch? Ahh I see, all you know about her is People Magazine. You should be telling Ed and Wolf and Dave and Alex how to treat her at this very moment since you know her better than they do.

That is all@

[DLR'sCock]

Wolf on drums too?! DAMN!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNXbxE2zaSU


I saw this months ago, the kid has IT.

[Hardrock69]

I owe a LOT to Wolfy. Took me awhile to realize it, but it was the Cafe Wha' gig performance of "She's The Woman" that really turned my head around and slapped the shit outta me...

It is due to Wolfy that this AND the 2007-2008 tour took place.

WE owe him a lot.

[Yount]

ha ha. Could go either way with Val but they're some pretty positive things coming out of her mouth. What ever motive (if any) she has kinda pales when you read things like:
“This brings joy to Ed, and that’s what he wants to do now, just have fun playing."
"These are really great people. This is my son. I just want him to be happy. And this is a dream come true for Ed.”

Ed's head must have been to some pretty dark places

[DONNIEP]

I know I'll get reamed for this...but I ain't buying it. Ed could have played music with Wolfgang from now until he croaks. Ed, Al and Wolf could have put out 37 records between '98 and today, just with all the music Ed claims he recorded over the past 20 years. I am so sick and fucking tired of people minimizing Dave's contribution to this band. And that's what it comes down to. "If it wasn't for Wolfie, Dave wouldn't be in the band." I'm not minimizing Wolfie's influence on his dad, even though he couldn't get him to straighten the fuck up before his marriage dissolved and Ed's ex-wife published a self-serving, money-grabbing, tell-all book about how horrible life was with Ed. So what? She married a member of Van-Fucking-Halen - did she really NOT expect him to drink heavily, fuck around, and snort blow off of their wedding picture??

The bottom line is this - If Ed EVER wanted to play live as Van Halen again, or wanted to put out a record, especially after the last abomination that involved Slappy, he only had ONE choice. Dave, Dave, DAVE!!! Edward had to suck it up and get with the program. And I refuse to believe that Dave was sitting by the phone, waiting for the fucking call.

Amen, fuck me. The day I believe that Dave earned a gig and completely bought into the whole fucking thing, simply because Ed's kid said so...well, that's the day that I toss in my Roth Army shirt and set fucking fire to it. And now, the benediction :gulp:

[K-tuna]

That's funny. Not really what she was communicating in '07-'08 when she oh-so-conveniently timed the release of her tell-all book and its promotional tour ALONG WITH the Van Halen tour (providing even more distractions for Wolfie, who was then only 16!). I guess she can say things like this when there's nothing for her to promote.

BITCH!


Shut The Fahk up....are you there, were you there?

Godamn. You got a new VH album...you should be thankful its out.

Oh and BTW, Dave wouldn't have shit to sing if Ed didn't get his ass in gear and they didn't have him come back. Tired of seeing senseless negative bullshit from the likes of dumbasses just like you that have nothing to do but complain.
Daves Back, Eds good and the band is Kicking ass...WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU BITCHING FOR?

Val was nothing but positive, but shit-idiots have to turn EVERYTHING into a negative.

FUCK....OFF.

[Angel]

Don't mind the Catfish. He's our neighbourhood scum-sucking bottom feeder. Really Catfish, when are you going to join the rest of us and grow up? BTW, Switch is digging out the strap-on for ya!

[DONNIEP]

Don't mind the Catfish. He's our neighbourhood scum-sucking bottom feeder. Really Catfish, when are you going to join the rest of us and grow up? BTW, Switch is digging out the strap-on for ya!

So is Catfish wrong? Really? I'm talking about his 2nd and 3rd posts...

[Golden AWe]

What next? Valerie says Wolfie played guitar, drums and sang on the album :cato:

[Terry]

I know I'll get reamed for this...but I ain't buying it. Ed could have played music with Wolfgang from now until he croaks. Ed, Al and Wolf could have put out 37 records between '98 and today, just with all the music Ed claims he recorded over the past 20 years. I am so sick and fucking tired of people minimizing Dave's contribution to this band. And that's what it comes down to. "If it wasn't for Wolfie, Dave wouldn't be in the band." I'm not minimizing Wolfie's influence on his dad, even though he couldn't get him to straighten the fuck up before his marriage dissolved and Ed's ex-wife published a self-serving, money-grabbing, tell-all book about how horrible life was with Ed. So what? She married a member of Van-Fucking-Halen - did she really NOT expect him to drink heavily, fuck around, and snort blow off of their wedding picture??

The bottom line is this - If Ed EVER wanted to play live as Van Halen again, or wanted to put out a record, especially after the last abomination that involved Slappy, he only had ONE choice. Dave, Dave, DAVE!!! Edward had to suck it up and get with the program. And I refuse to believe that Dave was sitting by the phone, waiting for the fucking call.

Amen, fuck me. The day I believe that Dave earned a gig and completely bought into the whole fucking thing, simply because Ed's kid said so...well, that's the day that I toss in my Roth Army shirt and set fucking fire to it. And now, the benediction :gulp:

I get the feeling that, left to his own devices, Ed would have been happy to make home studio recordings and live off the proceeds of his music gear endorsements and royalties. It is obvious Ed gets a lot of pleasure in playing music with his son. I also get the feeling that Wolf was an advocate of getting Dave back into the fold. I also get the feeling that Ed would have been content to continue sinking into the abyss far as his drinking and drug abuse went, and that Wolf being part of the band gives Ed a reason to try as hard as he can to stay sober and be healthy.

Realistically, yes, by 2006 if Ed wanted to play arenas again as a part of Van Halen, getting Roth back in the band was probably the last move he had left to make.

Put it this way...Mike Anthony was there from 1996 to 2004, during which...what...at least three different attempts to reunite with Roth were made. One out of three got as far as the stage of actually releasing some music. None of the three resulted in a tour. Since Wolf joined the band, we've got two tours with Dave and a new album.

Plus, don't forget that without Mike Anthony leaving Van Halen, the world would never have heard the music of Chickenfoot.:winkglasses:

[sadaist]

Plus, don't forget that without Mike Anthony leaving Van Halen, the world would never have heard the music of Chickenfoot.:winkglasses:


A great thing about Mike & Sammy being in Chickenfoot is that I don't have to hear them anymore to listen to Eddies guitar.

[DONNIEP]

You're right, since Wolfie joined the band they've cranked out an album and two tours. And I'm not wishing for Mikey to come back - I think Wolfgang has earned his spot in the band. I'm just sick and tired of people saying that if it wasn't for Wolfie, Dave wouldn't be in the band. I mean, we ARE talking about Van Fucking Halen, right??? Who else would be out front, other than Dave??? To hear all this shit one would think that we are all lucky that Wolfie didn't like the sound of Sammy's voice better than Dave's. Yes, I know, he supposedly liked the CVH music better too.

I do believe I need a drink :) :gulp:

[Mr Walker]

I try to tell him not to read the internet, but he reads some of the horrible things that people say, no matter what they're not going to be pleased. I try to tell him, you're not going to please everybody, it's impossible. Especially people who are so passionate about this band.

Wolf,
Anybody who is saying horrible things about you and the band at this point in time are either fags or retards... or maybe ELVIS.
We have your back here at the Army son!
Fuck everybody else!

[sadaist]

Remember also Wolfie was tagging along on the 2004 tour and probably saw Sammy and/or Mike say some bad shit about his dad or do lame shit & shenanigans. Remember this clip? That stuff sticks in a young boys mind. When you are 12 your dad is a superhero. You don't take kindly to other dudes ripping on him.





*Dave has far too much class to ever pull some bullshit like this.

[Zing!]

She defends Wolf which is understandable. She compliments Ed, which nice - and even speaks well of Dave. But I still have a hard time forgiving her for releasing her 'tell-all' book during the last tour. Ed was in an extremely fragile state at that point - he could have went either way... hell he could be dead right now. When he was sober he was on fire, but when he slipped up his playing wasn't the sharpest. He needed support from all the people he cared about to make him want to get better. Instead she chose to cash in on his fame to sell a few more books. I think it was that book that almost derailed Ed and that entire tour. She's not quite as shameless as Spammy, but that was a page right out of his playbook.

[fryingdutchman]

I'm glad to see Wolfie come into his own with this album and tour.

I was not a fan of the idea back in 2007, and I was one of the Mikey supporters. But Wolf's impact and influence is undeniable, and he has done something that Michael Anthony could NEVER have accomplished. He galvanized the band and brought Dave and Ed back together. This is the "something crazy happens" that Dave references in 'Blood and Fire', and it's why we're all victory dancing right along side of him.

And in the 5 years since, Wolf has grown into a great singer and incredible bass player. I still like Mike, even if I question the company he keeps these days. But he is not missed in Van Halen nearly as much as I once thought he would be.

[DONNIEP]

Bottom line, end of story...there would be no new Van Halen tour or record without Dave. Period. Carve it in stone that Donnie said that 'cause I fucking mean it. I'm not knocking Wolf or minimizing his contribution to the new record or this tour. He earned his stripes and he's more than capable of taking up Mikey's slack. But in my reality, Ed finally wised up and realized that the only way to go forward and get back on the big stage was by calling up Dave - the same Dave who's been touring pretty much non-stop, with a few exceptions, since he left VH. I'll even go ahead and say it - Dave was my hero when I was a teenage kid. And fuck it, he still is...And before everyone slams me...this IS the Roth Army, right??? Roth first, Van Halen second. That's why I joined up here. That's why I wear my Roth Army shirt with pride! And in my opinion Eddie and Al and Wolfie should be fucking grateful that DAVE took their call and went out on tour with them!

[Zing!]

Wolf automatically gets props just for the fact that he can say: "I had to go back to get my high school diploma because I missed eleventh grade touring with Van Halen."

[DONNIEP]

Wolf automatically gets props just for the fact that he can say: "I had to go back to get my high school diploma because I missed eleventh grade touring with Van Halen."

Too true :thumb:

[ELVIS]

Amen, fuck me. The day I believe that Dave earned a gig and completely bought into the whole fucking thing, simply because Ed's kid said so...well, that's the day that I toss in my Roth Army shirt and set fucking fire to it. And now, the benediction :gulp:

Better get a fucking match then...

And a clue...


:elvis:

[DONNIEP]

Better get a fucking match then...

And a clue...


:elvis:

You're probably right :thumb:

[ELVIS]

Eddie and Al and Wolfie should be fucking grateful that DAVE took their call and went out on tour with them!

Ed probably is, but Dave was waiting for that call...

He said as much in public quite a few times...


:elvis:

[fryingdutchman]

Wolf automatically gets props just for the fact that he can say: "I had to go back to get my high school diploma because I missed eleventh grade touring with Van Halen."

I would venture to say he got the education of his life during that time....far better than anything he would have received in high school.

[Angel]

I'm not minimizing Wolfie's influence on his dad, even though he couldn't get him to straighten the fuck up before his marriage dissolved and Ed's ex-wife published a self-serving, money-grabbing, tell-all book about how horrible life was with Ed. Okay, THIS I'll ream your ass for! WTF??? "Even though he couldn't". He was a fucking child, Ed the parent... remember? It wasn't his fucking responsibility! Kids with parents who are addicts end up being the parent more often than not, and then assholes like you come and say they should have become the parent sooner. For Fucks Sake, that attitude pisses me off to no fucking end!!!

[Jagermeister]

That's funny. Not really what she was communicating in '07-'08 when she oh-so-conveniently timed the release of her tell-all book and its promotional tour ALONG WITH the Van Halen tour (providing even more distractions for Wolfie, who was then only 16!). I guess she can say things like this when there's nothing for her to promote.

BITCH!

In other words. You would tap that shit!

[SNIPER]

:biggrin:
I don't trust a thing that whore says!

[ThrillsNSpills]

Ed was passionate about playing music with his son.
This was obvious in the 2006 interview with Stern.
Wolf was in the band anyway and had a huge passion for chops and music that was challenging to play.

I believe that the synergy between the 3 VH's helped the brothers get over their old animosity toward Dave so I think Val is on the money.

[private parts]

I saw this months ago, the kid has IT.

Damn! So if Al ever retires, Wolfie goes to drums, Michael comes back to bass, and you still
have two Van Halens, a Roth, and an Anthony.

Almost a Royal Flush!:clap:

[private parts]

From Val interview:
As to why she’s so friendly with her ex and his bandmates: “With age comes wisdom, I guess. I always choose to look at the good side. These are really great people. This is my son. I just want him to be happy. And this is a dream come true for Ed.”

Hum.. words to live by. Any takers?

[DLR Bridge]

Damn! So if Al ever retires, Wolfie goes to drums, Michael comes back to bass, and you still
have two Van Halens, a Roth, and an Anthony.

Almost a Royal Flush!:clap:

I thought of this option when I read that Wolf's instrument of choice was the drums. Definitely not something to hold your breathe for. I don't see Al tapping the mat like Bun E. Carlos any time soon.

[private parts]

I thought of this option when I read that Wolf's instrument of choice was the drums. Definitely not something to hold your breathe for. I don't see Al tapping the mat like Bun E. Carlos any time soon.

Ya Alex is probably in the best shape out of all of them. I'll bet after a few more weeks on the road, Eddie and Wolf will have lost a few pounds.
Wonder if they have a nutritionist on the tour. I know RUSH had one traveling with the band.

[GreenEyedMurder]

You're right, since Wolfie joined the band they've cranked out an album and two tours. And I'm not wishing for Mikey to come back - I think Wolfgang has earned his spot in the band. I'm just sick and tired of people saying that if it wasn't for Wolfie, Dave wouldn't be in the band. I mean, we ARE talking about Van Fucking Halen, right??? Who else would be out front, other than Dave??? To hear all this shit one would think that we are all lucky that Wolfie didn't like the sound of Sammy's voice better than Dave's. Yes, I know, he supposedly liked the CVH music better too.

I do believe I need a drink :) :gulp:

I think that what people are saying is that without Wolfie, Ed had no interest in recording or touring with the band -- Dave, or no Dave.

[Nigel]

Guess what folks? It's all about the money. Yes, we're all happy with a new tour and Dave at the helm, but
don't hold your breath on the future.

No meet and greet, lousy website, where's the DVD of the last tour, this tour and the back catalogue?

Oh, it will come, because it's a cash grab. I feel so sorry for Wolfie missing Grade 11, boo hoo, hoo!

Who the fuck needs Grade 11 when you're worth $40 million?

What's my point? I don't fucking know,
I just want VH with Dave and give me a fucking DVD, so I can throw out my Spammy DVD's.

Can't wait for ACC in Toronto next Saturday!!!!

[MUSICMANN]

I do believe what she said to be the truth in a certain point of view. 1st, there would be no VH if there is no Ed, period. It took a 16 yr. old Wolf to get Ed inspired to tour in 07/08, up until now, wanting to actually release new music and tour, then what Val said is the truth. Let's remember, Ed and Al seem to be very content on just making music and if that is confined to 5150, i don't think they have a problem with that. Dave on the other hand, seems to be in such a good place. From all the inside stuff about his personal life that has come out lately, of course he was not sitting by a phone waiting for a call, but the call came in before the 1st tour, and with those guys letting all that old stuff go, are continuing on with this new album and tour.

[DONNIEP]

Okay, THIS I'll ream your ass for! WTF??? "Even though he couldn't". He was a fucking child, Ed the parent... remember? It wasn't his fucking responsibility! Kids with parents who are addicts end up being the parent more often than not, and then assholes like you come and say they should have become the parent sooner. For Fucks Sake, that attitude pisses me off to no fucking end!!!

Angel, I must apologize..I didn't mean to imply that Wolfie should have been responsible for Ed's behavior. Wolfie wasn't responsible for Ed's behavior and he couldn't have influenced Ed one way or another. Ed was the parent and Wolfie was the kid. I'm sorry that my post came across that way - that wasn't my intent. I should have put it a different way.

[DLR Bridge]

Wolfie wasn't responsible for Ed's behavior and he couldn't have influenced Ed one way or another.

I beg to differ. I've got two girls, 2 and 8, that have completely driven my wife and I to drink more than when we were dating without a care in the world. It's always the kids fault!

[Mr Walker]

because it's a cash grab.

Cash grab is such a stupid term.
They are performers providing a performance that people are willing to pay for.
I go to work and get paid for it... is that a cash grab?
Do you work? Do you get paid? Then I guess you're guilty of a cash grab as well.

[Jagermeister]

Cash grab is such a stupid term.
They are performers providing a performance that people are willing to pay for.
I go to work and get paid for it... is that a cash grab?Do you work? Do you get paid? Then I guess you're guilty of a cash grab as well.

I think it may be in your case. :biggrin:

[hambon4lif]

Who the fuck needs Grade 11 when you're worth $40 million?That's such a silly fucking question.....EVERYBODY DOES!!!

What good is it being in that tax bracket if you're just a fucking dumbass?

[Catfish]

Really. How many times have you met her? Ever go out with her? Marry her? Just have lunch? Ahh I see, all you know about her is People Magazine. You should be telling Ed and Wolf and Dave and Alex how to treat her at this very moment since you know her better than they do.

That is all@

Kiss my ass with that nonsense. No, I've never met her, dumbass. But I, and any true VH fan, have every right to put as much blame on this starfucker than ANYONE for the demise of this band, and the fact that we had to wait 28 years for an album. Sorry, I don't subscribe to her 'water under the bridge' outlook, because people like me are on the outside looking in.

She's been just as much an Ed puppeteer as anyone. And she's using comments like this to get into the news, just like she did last tour with her book.

Go away, Val!!! :finger33:

[Catfish]

Shut The Fahk up....are you there, were you there?

Godamn. You got a new VH album...you should be thankful its out.

Oh and BTW, Dave wouldn't have shit to sing if Ed didn't get his ass in gear and they didn't have him come back. Tired of seeing senseless negative bullshit from the likes of dumbasses just like you that have nothing to do but complain.
Daves Back, Eds good and the band is Kicking ass...WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU BITCHING FOR?

Val was nothing but positive, but shit-idiots have to turn EVERYTHING into a negative.

FUCK....OFF.

Yes, I'm thankful as FUCK we have a new album, and it's marvelous and way past any expectations I've ever had. BUT, thanks in no small part to her, we had to wait 30 fucking years for it. And now she's taking credit for it in a sideways manner. So she, and your father, can tongue my sack!

[Catfish]

Wolf automatically gets props just for the fact that he can say: "I had to go back to get my high school diploma because I missed eleventh grade touring with Van Halen."

Post of the day!!!!!

[Catfish]

I'm not positive this "Val is an Attention Whore" thread should have been cuntbined with the "Thank You Wolfgang" thread. Different discussion matters. Seems like a little over-moderating, to me. :thumb:

[Mr Walker]

I'm not positive this "Val is an Attention Whore" thread should have been cuntbined with the "Thank You Wolfgang" thread. Different discussion matters. Seems like a little over-moderating, to me. :thumb:

Right... Thanks Wolf... but uh excuse us while The Catfish disrespects your mom.

[Catfish]

Right... Thanks Wolf... but uh excuse us while The Catfish disrespects your mom.

Yeah, this makes me uncuntfortable.

It's not that I really disagree with Val, I just don't like that she's out there saying it.

I, too, thank Wolfie :thumb:

[Nigel]

That's such a silly fucking question.....EVERYBODY DOES!!!

What good is it being in that tax bracket if you're just a fucking dumbass?

Missing Grade 10 or 11 Hambone is no big deal. If you're in the $40 million taxbracket, you can get a tutor.

Some people here are real "nasty fucks"!

Are you upset because you missed school altogether!!

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Audio of Val's interview.....

http://envisionradio.com/streams/gs/gs.html

[Angel]

Yeah, this makes me uncuntfortable.

It's not that I really disagree with Val, I just don't like that she's out there saying it.

I, too, thank Wolfie :thumb: I'm thinking this may have come as a reaction to Dave's interview in which he said this was about him and the brothers.

I didn't like that comment, many of us worried about what Ed's reaction would be.

I'm glad Val did it, this isn't about self-promotion, this is about promoting her son. I would have done the same thing.



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[Catfish]

I'm thinking this may have come as a reaction to Dave's interview in which he said this was about him and the brothers.



No it's not. Nobody but dorks like us saw that DLR interview. It's Val running her mouth.

[TwoFoolsAMinute]

Catfish is my fucking hero!!!!









....at least until Lou comes back.

[sadaist]

Cash grab is such a stupid term.
They are performers providing a performance that people are willing to pay for.
I go to work and get paid for it... is that a cash grab?
Do you work? Do you get paid? Then I guess you're guilty of a cash grab as well.


A cash grab to me would have been like a stadium reunion show that was on Pay-Per-View or something and then a DVD released after. NO TOUR. NO ALBUM. NO 2ND TOUR.

[Angel]

No it's not. Nobody but dorks like us saw that DLR interview. It's Val running her mouth. That sucker was all over the web in various print forms. I wouldn't be surprised if Wolf didn't mention it to her himself. Either way, she wasn't promoting herself, she was promoting Wolf, aint a damn thing wrong with that. Oh yeah, and Switch wants to know what size of strap on you want her to use on you.

[Nitro Express]

Vallerie almost killed Ed. I read her book and she was the first to cheat on the guy soon after they were married. She admitted she never wanted to see a face that sad ever again after he found out. I mean she was the one after him, she was out to bag a rock star and be a wild little thing. The mistake Ed made was not divorcing Val after she cheated on him. Ed just steadily went downhill with Val in his life. I think she manipulated him and guilt tripped him. It's interesting and amazing as soon as a new woman enters Ed's life he goes from being the Crypt Keeper to a happy healthy guy who fucking plays guitar as good as he ever did. I think we have that new wife of his to thank. Val was just a cheating, guilt tripping, coke head who played America's sweetheart. It's amazing once she was out of Ed's life and a new woman came in how much Ed improved. Very telling I say.

[Angel]

Sounds like a typical bad marriage where both people foolishly try to hold onto something they should both just walk away from. My husband was an alcoholic and our marriage was probably the most dysfunctional in the world. He'd get drunk and abusive, and I'd get back at him by getting laid... monkey shit to fling at each other for 24 years or however fucking long it was. I should have walked away the first time he blacked out... he should have walked away the next day when I went and got my revenge.

[ashstralia]

well i'm glad they stuck together long enough to give the world wolfie. :)

thanks val and ed!!!

[Nitro Express]

Yeah it all worked out in the end. It sounds like Ed was going to hang it up and retire but Wolfgang inspires Ed to continue.

[Nitro Express]

Sounds like a typical bad marriage where both people foolishly try to hold onto something they should both just walk away from. My husband was an alcoholic and our marriage was probably the most dysfunctional in the world. He'd get drunk and abusive, and I'd get back at him by getting laid... monkey shit to fling at each other for 24 years or however fucking long it was. I should have walked away the first time he blacked out... he should have walked away the next day when I went and got my revenge.

I remember Sam saying Val guilt tripped Ed a lot. He said it was a catch 22. Ed would drink because the marriage was bad and then feel guilty that he drank. He said Val often blamed him for Ed's drinking and Sam felt like saying hey bitch, it's your constant guilt tripping driving him to it. I think Ed was always under pressure. In the early days the band owed Warner Brothers big time and the pressure was on Ed to hammer out new songs that sold. Then being a guitar god has to be a lot of pressure because you have to live up to people's expectations. Then you had egos and tensions in the band. I can see where Ed really wanted a security blanket wife because he's not a go out and party type guy like Roth. Then your security blanket cheats on you after you have completely opened up to her and married her. Then you drink to the ease the pain. She's a coke user, you are a coke user and it spirals down from that. I bet it was quite morbid.

[Nitro Express]

Sounds like a typical bad marriage where both people foolishly try to hold onto something they should both just walk away from. My husband was an alcoholic and our marriage was probably the most dysfunctional in the world. He'd get drunk and abusive, and I'd get back at him by getting laid... monkey shit to fling at each other for 24 years or however fucking long it was. I should have walked away the first time he blacked out... he should have walked away the next day when I went and got my revenge.

Once the trust is gone, it's fucked. You have nothing.

[Angel]

Poor Wolf probably witnessed some pretty nasty shit. That's my biggest regret in not walking away, what my son went through. But, then I think my kid's a pretty awesome incredible young man, and who knows what he'd be like if I had left? He doesn't drink because of his dad's drinking, maybe the genes would have won and he would have been a drinker had he not hated it in his father so much.

That guilt trip thing is always a part of it, in some form or another. So is blaming the person that your partner is drinking with.

Wolf's damn lucky to have his dad smarten up like he did. Then again, Ed had hit bottom so hard, I don't think he'd be alive today if he hadn't gotten clean.

[Angel]

Once the trust is gone, it's fucked. You have nothing. Yup... all you've got is dirt to throw at each other to push each other's buttons. Trust is probably the most important thing to me now, in any relationship. Once you breach my trust, that's it...you're out of my life... permanently.

[Nitro Express]

A lot of people try to keep it going because there are kids involved. I get that but if the parents don't trust each other then it's not going to work. A lot of people wait until the kids move out of the house and then get divorced.

[WolfieVanHalen]

Much appreciation!

[Unchainme]

Much appreciation!

alias or the real deal?

[Diamondjimi]

Who knows. IP check?

[ashstralia]

ya coulda quoted me, kiddo!

:biggrin:

[Halen High]

I'm a Classic Van Halen diehard and there was a time when the only Van Halen reunion that would have been acceptable was one featuring the original four. Not now. After reading an interview with Mike saying he was dead set against ever working with Dave again in the late 90s, his unjustified anti-Dave stance in general over the years, and his embarrassing forward in the replacement singer's autobiography - sadly, it's clear that the bass player would rather 'do Van Hagar', based on his friendship with Sammy, than give 90% of the fanbase what they want - Dave. Mike has lost 'it'. 'It' being the CVH spirit and attitude. Unless he is being less than completely honest, so as not to offend the childish Hagar, then Mike has all but admitted that he would rather play When It's Love than Unchained. I'll always love the guy, but today, Wolfie has more CVH running through his veins than Mike and that's one of the reasons why the 2007/08 tour was so great, and why ADKOT is such an amazing album. Good for you Wolfie!

[vanshipman]

Going back to Mikey for me now would almost be anticlimactic considering the level of musicianship going on with the three twins. It would be cool on a nostalgic level no doubt, but Wolf has transformed VH into a power trio. With Michael Anthony it was Ed and Alex dominating the sound, now it's three people tearing it up in a big way. VH 2012 is a killing machine that no band can get near, thanks to Wolf.


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[Angel]

alias or the real deal? Who knows, although I did tweet a link to this thread to both him and Val (before I learned the threads had been merged)

[chi-town324]

I love this lineup ! Thanks again Wolf

[fourthcoming]

Why, if your a guitar god in your early 20's would you ever get married in the first place??????????????? Live your life first man....enjoy that shit!!! The whole band were all married young and Uncle Dave was free to enjoy his youth and his success and do his own thing on his own time. No wonder why these guys couldn't relate to each other back in the day. Dave was off in the Amazon or climbing mountains and doing whatever the hell he wanted without having to answer to anybody while the other three were foolish enough to have people to answer to while they were still extremely young, successful men. I don't get it.....nothing against the institution of marriage, but if your a young, successful musician in the most popular band at the time, why would you suddenly confine yourself to one woman? And why would you go ahead and marry a woman who was originally after your lead singer???? Wolfie must have seen some crazy shit growing up. Anyway, thanks Wolf for helping bring this shit together and for realizing that VH 1978-1984 is the only VH......and thanks for playing your ass off on the new album and for having such a good voice.....why it wasn't used more on the album I don't know.

[sadaist]

alias or the real deal?


Yeah, and I'm David Lee Roth.


Ash can confirm. He's seen the pics.

[sadaist]

Once you breach my trust, that's it...you're out of my life... permanently.


One small problem with that Angel. After a while, you find yourself sitting alone with zero friends around because they've all fucked you over in 1 way or another yet you never forgave them. Grudges are a bitch and quite heavy.


So is regret.

[sadaist]

Grudges are a bitch and quite heavy.

.


Grudge sounds like my ex-wife.

[chi-town324]

people make stupid decisions when they are young..we all have

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Yeah, and I'm David Lee Roth.


Ash can confirm. He's seen the pics.

I wish this guy would make up his fucking mind....

He's been busy....

AricVanHalen
BrianYoung
BrianYoung2
ChaimWitz
davechapelle
EdwardLodewijk
EdwardVanHalen
Homosexual
JoeyRamone
johnburrows
KipDynamite
LockedandLoaded
LoveBug
MichaelAnthony
Orgasm
PedroSanchez
PetePicasso
SamHagar
SummerWheatly
TedTempleman
WilliamHung
WolfieVanHalen

[sadaist]

KipDynamite



I swear, didn't we used to call Lounge that?


;)

[Halen High]

Why, if your a guitar god in your early 20's would you ever get married in the first place??????????????? Live your life first man....enjoy that shit!!! The whole band were all married young and Uncle Dave was free to enjoy his youth and his success and do his own thing on his own time. No wonder why these guys couldn't relate to each other back in the day. Dave was off in the Amazon or climbing mountains and doing whatever the hell he wanted without having to answer to anybody while the other three were foolish enough to have people to answer to while they were still extremely young, successful men. I don't get it.....nothing against the institution of marriage, but if your a young, successful musician in the most popular band at the time, why would you suddenly confine yourself to one woman? And why would you go ahead and marry a woman who was originally after your lead singer???? Wolfie must have seen some crazy shit growing up. Anyway, thanks Wolf for helping bring this shit together and for realizing that VH 1978-1984 is the only VH......and thanks for playing your ass off on the new album and for having such a good voice.....why it wasn't used more on the album I don't know.

Only Eddie, Alex and Mike can answer your question. I suppose it must have been......love. To single out Eddie, we all wanted Eddie to remain '1978 Eddie', so we could continue to live our own rock n' roll fantasy through him. But he met a girl, fell in love and who are we to say, "No you can't do that!"

[Yount]

Acoustic Panama shows them all smiling and enjoying the jam. I love seeing people playing music together like this. It's not necessarily about note-for-note precision. I think Wolfie has more than that. Somebody before mentioned Van Halen Spirit.

[Angel]

One small problem with that Angel. After a while, you find yourself sitting alone with zero friends around because they've all fucked you over in 1 way or another yet you never forgave them. Grudges are a bitch and quite heavy.


So is regret.I'm talking about a serious breach of trust, not the small things. If I can't trust someone, I let them, and it, go. That's not the same as carrying a grudge. Should have said, breach my trust and you're no longer part of the inner circle.

As for friends, they come and go. A very wise man once told me that if on the day you die you can say you have had one true friend, then you are a very lucky person indeed.

[David_Lirot]

So many haters towards Wolf.
Only one way to shut them up.
He did it.

Fucking killer bass synced to the Van Halen pulse by blood.

Backing vox is not MA, but its good enough.

Thankyou Wolfgang, great to see you rocking with your Dad and Uncle.
Rhythm section tighter than a fishes butthole.....

Obvious respect for Dave, who you can see respects the heck out of you.

The Wolf Army is already launching. Thanks for saving the band.

:thumb:

Agreed, well said.