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robg8888
02-16-2012, 02:50 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/hot-teacher-essay-lands-student-trouble-221254769--abc-news.html

A Michigan college student is crying foul after he was kicked off campus for writing a sexually suggestive journal entry about his teacher for a class assignment.

Joseph Corlett, a 56-year-old countertop refinisher who is pursuing a degree in writing and rhetoric at Oakland University, wrote the essay as a part of a creative writing journal assignment in a writing course.

In his essay, which he said was inspired by the 1984 Van Halen hit "Hot for Teacher," he wrote about his first impressions of his professor, Pamela Mitzelfeld, describing her as "tall, blonde, stacked, smart, articulate."

Corlett said he was under the impression that there were no restrictions on what he could write about in his journal.

"The real issue is the First Amendment," Corlett said. "It's about academic freedom and about due process. These are the real issues of the case, and the sooner we can get past the titillation of it and see those issues, the better."

Mitzelfeld and Oakland University declined requests for comment from ABC News. But the university has made its position known in its disciplinary action against Corlett.

In January, after a campus hearing, the university found Corlett guilty of intimidation. Another charge, for sexual harassment, was dropped. Corlett was suspended for three semesters, banned from stepping foot on campus and required to seek out psychological counseling before he could be eligible to reenroll, according to documentation provided to ABC News by Corlett.

Corlett has appealed the punishment; the university's response is pending.

It all started in September, when Corlett began taking an advanced English class from Mitzelfeld, who had assigned the students to keep a journal, referred to as a "daybook," Corlett said. The daybooks were a place for students to collect unsensored thoughts, which could then be used to create more polished essays, according to Corlett.

Mitzelfeld collected Corlett's journal in November and that's when his problems began. Up until then, he said, he had been earning A's on his writing assignments, many of which had sexual undertones, he said, so he thought he was "on the right track" and was not concerned about turning in the daybook journal.

But after Mitzelfeld reviewed Corlett's daybook, she initiated a university review of his conduct, which led to a meeting with a dean, and instructions to stay away from Mitzelfeld's class for awhile, until she could cool down, Cortlett said. But when he eventually returned to class, he was escorted out of the room by university police, he said, and asked not to return pending a university judicial hearing.

Oakland University initially charged Corlett with sexual harassment and intimidation, both classified as "unlawful individual activities" in the school's student handbook.

Corlett, who lives in Lake Orion, is flummoxed by the turn of events. "I asked (Mitzelfeld) on multiple occasions if there were topical restrictions on the daybooks, and on every occasion -- often in front of other students -- she told me no," Corlett said.

After the university disciplined Corlett, he enlisted the help of a non-profit education foundation called the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, a Philadelphia-based non-profit that advocates for students and teachers. The Center helped him find Brian Vincent, a Michigan-based litigator, who is helping him challenge his suspension and the other disciplinary actions taken by Oakland University.

"I have no doubt in my mind that the university had no authority to boot him off campus," said Vincent. "His speech was completely protected, and the University of Oakland's actions at this point have been completely baseless and illegal."

University officials told ABC News they do not comment on student conduct matters.

Gene Policinski, executive director of the First Amendment Center, a non-profit education-focused organization at Vanderbilt University, said that harassment and intimidation charges are often handled on a case-by-case basis rather than based broadly on law.

"Because the law on harassment comes from protection of person who is hearing the speech, it can be a complicated factor," Polcinski said.

"Just because something is offensive doesn't mean that it is a criminal act,'' Polcinski said. "I think the First Amendment protects a wide range of freedom of expression. We're free to express even repellant ideas, but what grade he received is an academic -- not a legal -- question."

If the disciplinary actions are not dropped in the appeal, Corlett plans to file a lawsuit against the university, Vincent said.

"He suffered damage to his reputation," said Vincent. "He wants to be made whole for his attorney fees and wants to be reinstated to the university so he can finish his education, which he has a Constitutional right to do."

Seshmeister
02-16-2012, 02:57 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/hot-teacher-essay-lands-student-trouble-221254769--abc-news.html

"The real issue is the First Amendment," Corlett said. "It's about academic freedom and about due process. These are the real issues of the case, and the sooner we can get past the titillation of it and see those issues, the better."

No it's not and the guy sounds like a creep.

Seshmeister
02-16-2012, 02:59 PM
Here's the professor who is 49...


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/16/article-2102084-11C4D41D000005DC-154_468x351.jpg

ZahZoo
02-16-2012, 03:25 PM
No it's not and the guy sounds like a creep.

Wait a minute... 56 year old dude finds 49 year old teacher attractive. Sounds much more normal than creepy...

Aren't you sorta on the wrong side of the pond to be questioning 1st amendment rights?

clarathecarrot
02-16-2012, 03:25 PM
I heard he wrote some other ones , (creative writing assignment essays) she had no issue with, titles something like -Boobs- and she didn't pitch a bitch...WTF!!:doh:

5 BUCKS sais she gets sued and will be fired.. by the NCAA or the ASPCA or the WASP or the Gungla Gungla Gungla La ......gungala Gungala..(well, I got tha going for me group) or that other organization that is allways up in arms about the free speech on campuses.

FIGHT THE POWER!

TJMKID
02-16-2012, 03:26 PM
Here's the professor who is 49...


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/16/article-2102084-11C4D41D000005DC-154_468x351.jpg



Not bad for 49 --- wouldn't mind seeing MILFs like this at the VH shows --- but she's nothing to get into full-on creeper mode for.

Antman
02-16-2012, 08:05 PM
Reminds me of that movie with Billy Crystal-Throw Mama From the Train I think. He teaches a writing course and one of the "students" who is obviously in his 40s, writes an essay called "Girls I Want to Pork". It wasn't really an essay- more like a list.

Nitro Express
02-16-2012, 08:55 PM
I wrote a nasty poem about our substitute teacher. Showed it to the kid next to me, he started busting, the girl next to him grabbed it to see what was so funny, she was so shocked she gave it to the sub. Busted! I got my ass hauled to the principals office and they called my mom.

conmee
02-16-2012, 09:10 PM
Brethren and Sistren,

As a member of the LITERATI™©® and possessing not ONE but TWO degrees in English from a RENOWNED COMMUNITY COLLEGE™©®, I feel I have a certain amount of CREDIBILITY™©® on this topic. First off, the guy's writing sucks. So how he was getting exemplar grades from MILF™©® remains a mystery. Second off, come the fuck on, DUDE™©®!!!! No one wants to read erotica by some fiftysomething old ass man! Especially not the TEACHER™©® of the class! If she really gave him passing marks for his crappy assignments, and he was really hell bent on being "HOT FOR TEACHER" then he could have easily - AND MORE IMPORTANTLY - FICTIONALIZED his account and not made reference to his actual teacher!

This is workplace harassment, and I'm pretty fucking anti-PC and think HENBRAINS™©® aka WOMEN™©® are in general now too fucking sensitive and play the victim card too often. BUT... common sense would suggest not writing this TRIPE™©® because of CONTEXT™©® and the student-teacher relationship. The guy basically writes about ogling her tits and having to control his BONER™©® in class. COME THE FUCK ON! How does that not change the dynamic in the classroom? I'm all for him being re-instated and finishing his studies with a different instructor, but he can't go back to the original instructor's class.

Similar to being at a bar or restaurant and a real hot chick is serving you. DO NOT ask her out on a date or comment on how hot/stacked she is while she is AT WORK! She will fuck up your drinks or spit in your food, especially if you aren't smooth like ICON™©® but are crass and creepy like fiftysomethingdude. ALWAYS SAVE your come ons and comments for AFTER the bill. Preferably AFTER you've left a tip. In creepy guy's case, he should have told her after receiving an "A" in the class at the end of the semester, Hey Baby, I had a BONER™©® every day while you were up there teaching. And all would be fine, and she could throw up in her purse.

That is all.

Icon™©®

Seshmeister
02-16-2012, 09:16 PM
Thank you very much Mr C you saved me having to put the case for the prosecution to fucking Petrocelli.®™

He thinks he can claim a first amendment right to give an essay to your teacher about how you want to fire your muck into her starfish®™?

I watched enough L.A. Law in my time to know unless he could play the Benny®™ card he's going to lose that argument.

Golden AWe
02-17-2012, 01:42 AM
You said "fuck"...uhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhu

binnie
02-17-2012, 03:08 AM
56?

What a dick.