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  • Jagermeister
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    • Apr 2010
    • 4510

    Can LSD Cure Alcoholism

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    In a truly mind-bending acid flashback, a new study reports that LSD could help alcoholics kick their addiction. Based on a new analysis of six randomized controlled trials from the 1960s and 70s, and published in the Journal of Psychopharmacology, researchers from Norwegian University of Science and Technology and Harvard Univeristy found that a single dose of the hallucinogen “had a significant beneficial effect on alcohol misuse” for up to 12 months.

    Dropping acid on a one-time basis also “compares favorably” with the effectiveness of such daily treatments for alcoholism as the FDA-approved addiction-fighting drugs naltrexone and acamporosate, the researchers report. Overall, 59 percent of the 536 study participants treated with a single dose of the psychedelic drug showed improvement in their alcohol habits, compared to 38 percent of those who didn’t take LSD.

    Here’s a closer look at this startling study.

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    Why would a hallucinogenic drug help with a drinking problem?
    The researchers point out that, “LSD is well-known for inducing spectacular and profound effects on the mind,” and “can help prevent a relapse of alcohol abuse…by eliciting insights into behavioral problems and generating motivation to build a meaningful and sober lifestyle.”

    The theory is that dropping acid is like speeding up psychotherapy, so alcohol abusers achieve similar results to years of psychotherapy in a single LSD trip, helping them break past habits and obstacles that have kept them from kicking their addiction.

    Scientists who conducted one of the 1970s studies included in the analysis also noted that, “It was not unusual for patients following the LSD experience to become much more self-accepting, to show greater openness and accessibility, and to adopt a more positive, optimistic view of their capabilities to face future problems.”

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    How scientific were the studies supporting LSD as a therapy for alcohol abuse?
    While treating problem drinkers with a mind-altering drug may sound counterintuitive or even crazy, all the studies analyzed were randomized clinical trials (the gold standard of scientific research), in which one group of participants received a single dose of LSD ranging from 210 mcg to 800 mcg, and another group didn’t get LSD.

    Almost all of the participants were men who had been admitted to substance abuse centers for alcoholism. Some of those who received LSD were put in quiet rooms with flowers, music, and scenic views to promote a "good trip," while others were safely strapped to their beds so they didn’t hurt themselves while in the throes of their mind-bending visions.

    Afterwards, all participants were monitored with urine tests or other methods to see if they remained abstinent or made progress in overcoming their dependency. The analysis found that LSD had a positive effect on the alcohol habits of people for up to six months after treatment, but the benefits disappeared after one year. The LSD could have other health benefits: those tested were also found to have reduced anxiety and less pain.

    Isn’t giving alcoholics LSD just replacing one dependency with another?
    "Psychedelics are not known to be toxic to the body or dependence-producing,” says study author Pal-Orjan Johansen, who theorizes that while booze and drugs like heroin or cocaine are typically abused to elevate mood and escape problems, LSD seems to help people get insights into the issues in their lives and may aid in finding healthier ways to cope.

    However, since the studies that were analyzed only tracked participants over the short term, it’s unknown if they experienced any long-term psychological harm from dropping acid, such as recurrent flashbacks.

    What about bad trips and other side effects?
    Taking LSD can trigger nightmarish experiences known as “bad trips,” marked by anything from acute anxiety to sheer terror. The analysis reported that eight patients showed adverse effects, ranging from “bizarre behavior” to agitation. One patient had a grand mal seizure, but the researchers note that this patient was in the throes of alcohol withdrawal and had a history of seizures.

    One of the studies found that some participants experienced nausea, vomiting, and moderate anxiety that was improved by social support and a more soothing environment during the LSD experience. The low rate of adverse events and high rate of short-term improvement has led the researchers to conclude that LSD treatment for alcoholism could be a valuable but overlooked approach that merits further study.

    What’s the bottom line on LSD and alcohol abuse?
    The researchers strongly caution against trying the illegal psychedelic at home and emphasize that LSD may not be the answer for every alcoholic. However, they also point to the serious toll that alcohol abuse takes as evidence of the urgent need for better treatments.

    Four percent of all deaths and five percent of disabilities are directly attributable to alcohol abuse, and many addicts don’t respond to current treatments. That’s why, say the researchers, a flashback to an approach that was explored in medical experiments and alcohol treatment programs during the hippie era might just make LSD and other psychedelics a breakthrough for those who find it challenging to abstain from alcohol.

    I would never take that shit again but it sure was fun to take when I was young.
  • Mr Walker
    Crazy Ass Mofo
    • Jan 2004
    • 2536

    #2
    Here's an idea for treating alcoholism... grow up and put the fucking bottle down.

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    • kwame k
      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
      • Feb 2008
      • 11302

      #3
      Fuck that.......'turn on, tune in and drop out', man
      Originally posted by vandeleur
      E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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      • fourthcoming

        #4
        I guess Timmy Leary had no problems with the sauce.....

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        • Jagermeister
          Full Member Status

          • Apr 2010
          • 4510

          #5
          As far as I can tell outside of not being able to spell a damn thing I had no ill effects form it.

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          • kwame k
            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
            • Feb 2008
            • 11302

            #6
            In all seriousness.......current treatments are an abject failure.

            AA....is a fucking useless cult that has a 97% failure rate. Antabuse and other forms of treatment don't work.

            Dropping acid isn't addictive and if it helps to take a 'Journey to the Center of the Mind' to get down to the real issues of abuse, then why not.

            Remember LSD was banned not because it wasn't an effective treatment but because middle class white kids were doing it and becoming filthy
            Originally posted by vandeleur
            E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 58787

              #7
              The worst thing about acid is that is amplifies anything you are already feeling, good or bad. So putting somebody going through physical withdrawals from alcohol (or other drugs) on acid is probably not a good idea.

              I could see the potential use of it in a controlled environment when the "patient" is otherwise in a decent mental and physical state, but there's also an obvious potential for abuse there if it's used by doctors/shrinks/etc. with less than honorable intentions. Let's not forget the CIA has used acid for mind control (MK Ultra) and has caused a few "suicides" by painting people's steering wheels with LSD, which can absorb through the skin easily, and other assorted dirty tricks.

              So put me down as a "maybe" for this one. Might be easier if the drunks just switched to weed.
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              • Jagermeister
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                • Apr 2010
                • 4510

                #8
                Originally posted by FORD
                The worst thing about acid is that is amplifies anything you are already feeling, good or bad. So putting somebody going through physical withdrawals from alcohol (or other drugs) on acid is probably not a good idea.

                I could see the potential use of it in a controlled environment when the "patient" is otherwise in a decent mental and physical state, but there's also an obvious potential for abuse there if it's used by doctors/shrinks/etc. with less than honorable intentions. Let's not forget the CIA has used acid for mind control (MK Ultra) and has caused a few "suicides" by painting people's steering wheels with LSD, which can absorb through the skin easily, and other assorted dirty tricks.

                So put me down as a "maybe" for this one. Might be easier if the drunks just switched to weed.
                That reminds me of an old Richard Prior bit. Cocaine intensifies your personality. Yeah but what of you're an asshole.

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                • Angel
                  ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 7481

                  #9
                  Hmmm... maybe I don't drink because of all the acid I dropped when I was younger. And Walker, in severe cases putting down the bottle can be deadly. Alcohol withdrawal shoukd be done in a hospital setting...I'm off to find a hit for my alcie roommate now
                  "Ya know what they say about angels... An angel is a supernatural being or spirit, usually humanoid in form, found in various religions and mythologies. Plus Roth fan boards..."- ZahZoo April 2013

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                  • fourthcoming

                    #10
                    Alcoholism is a damn shame.....I'm glad for all the partying I did a million years ago when I was a kid that the booze didnt grab me and not let go. The acid was fun, not gonna lie....but once you get to a certain age and your not some snot nosed teenager with no reponsibilities and no major cares in the world, I wonder if expanding your mind would just lead to a bad hit. I'm thinking if I dropped now....I wouldn't stop thinking about all the bills I have to pay and I would launch into a bad trip...lol Booze sucks though.....too many cool, genuinely good hearted people I know or used to know have completely fallen apart. I used to have a guitar player in my band who was such a good person and harmonized with so damn well....had such a good vibe with but he was his own worst enemy cuz of the sauce. It's a fine line having sympathy for someone and wanting to kick them in the ass and telling them to snap out of it and grow up....guess it's not that easy. I'm thankful that for all the shit I did to my body back in the day that cigarettes is the only vice that still remains. It's a friggin bitch to quit but I guess it could be worse. I never understood how people say Alcoholism runs in families but there definitely seems to be some correlation. Almost every friend I had that ended up a booze hound all had fathers or mothers who were alcoholics. The one thing I can't stand is when Junkies walk around telling everyone they have a disease.....Diabetes is a disease, Cancer is a disease......being a junkie because you were dumb enough to shoot heroin is not a disease.
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                    • kwame k
                      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 11302

                      #11
                      Originally posted by FORD
                      The worst thing about acid is that is amplifies anything you are already feeling, good or bad. So putting somebody going through physical withdrawals from alcohol (or other drugs) on acid is probably not a good idea.

                      I could see the potential use of it in a controlled environment when the "patient" is otherwise in a decent mental and physical state, but there's also an obvious potential for abuse there if it's used by doctors/shrinks/etc. with less than honorable intentions. Let's not forget the CIA has used acid for mind control (MK Ultra) and has caused a few "suicides" by painting people's steering wheels with LSD, which can absorb through the skin easily, and other assorted dirty tricks.

                      So put me down as a "maybe" for this one. Might be easier if the drunks just switched to weed.
                      The article does state that it would be done in a controlled environment and only be used once every six months to a year.

                      Obviously, with any drug there are dangers but my point is more about the social stigma surrounding LSD.

                      The CIA used it mostly on unsuspecting victims, without their knowledge......big difference if you have no idea what LSD is or the effects and all of a sudden you're tripping balls then if it's administered in a control setting with the patients knowledge.








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                      Originally posted by vandeleur
                      E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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                      • Angel
                        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 7481

                        #12
                        I hear ya. Used to drink like a fish, it's amazing I never got addicted, as it runs in both sides of my family. Maybe it's cause I was often on acid when drinking, lmao. Still addicted to tobacco, weed and the internet though.
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                        • hambon4lif
                          Crazy Ass Mofo
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 2810

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Jagermeister
                          That reminds me of an old Richard Prior bit. Cocaine intensifies your personality. Yeah but what of you're an asshole.
                          I know to you they all look alike, but that was actually Bill Cosby who said that.....

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                          • Jagermeister
                            Full Member Status

                            • Apr 2010
                            • 4510

                            #14
                            Originally posted by hambon4lif
                            I know to you they all look alike, but that was actually Bill Cosby who said that.....
                            Could have been. Thanks for logging in to point that out.

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                            • hambon4lif
                              Crazy Ass Mofo
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 2810

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jagermeister
                              Could have been. Thanks for logging in to point that out.
                              No need to thank me, Adolf.
                              I'm here to help.

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