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  • Momshell
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    • Jan 2012
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    John 5 Talks About Working With Dave in Guitar World

    Just got the June 2012 issue of Guitar World and there's an interview with John 5. In it he says some pretty cool stuff about his work with Dave on DLR Band album. Wish I knew how to scan it. Instead I'll just type in the relevant questions and answers.

    GW: You've talked often of Van Halen's influence on you as a musician. Given your love for the band's music, what was it like to have the opportunity to play with David Lee Roth on his 1998 album, DLR Band?

    J5: It was amazing. I was actually playing with Rob Halford at the time, but I sought Dave out and sent some songs to him through his management. He liked what I did, and his manager at the time invited me up to his house. And for me, meeting Dave - I may as well have been meeting Superman or Spider-Man or something. He's a childhood hero. I remember driving through the front gate of this massive house in Pasadena, and the first thing I see is the car from the "Panama" video - the red convertible. That blew my mind.
    And then Dave came out of the house, and he was just as you would expect. [impersonating Roth] "John! Good to see ya! Great songs! Here's what I wanna do. I wanna go into the studio and I wanna cut this record just like the old Van Halen days - just knock it out." And I said, "That's great, Mr. Roth. Only I'm rehearsing for a tour with Rob Halford." And he said, "No problem. But I wanna have you fresh every day, so what we're gonna do is we're gonna start recording at six am. Then afterward you can go do your other thing." [laughs]
    So I would get up at five in the morning and go down to Ocean Studios in Burbank to record with Dave, and from there I'd go rehearse with Halford. And I'll never forget being at Ocean that first day: here I am with one of my idols, and right before we start, Dave gets on the mic and he goes, "If you can't do it in two takes, you can't do it. Hit it, boys!" I was like, Oh my god....But we did it. We cut the whole record in two weeks, including mixing.

    GW: Do you still keep in touch with Dave?

    J5: Ever since then we've been really good friends. And here's something I don't think really anyone knows: Dave and I have about 12 or 13 songs in the can for a future record. And it's all acoustic. But not strummy, campfire stuff - I'm talking lots of cool, crazy jazz chords, and 50 or 60 overdubbed guitar tracks, with all this harmonizing and other weird stuff going on.

    GW: When was this recorded?

    J5: We just did this recently! We had Gregg Bissonette on drums and Brett Tuggle on keyboards, who both played with Dave back in the Skyscraper days. And Dave's vocals are incredible. He sings his ass off. Dave obviously has his plate full right now with Van Halen, but hopefully this record will get released one of these days.
    Last edited by Momshell; 04-28-2012, 07:59 AM.
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  • Momshell
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    • Jan 2012
    • 2370

    #2
    Just another little note - also in GW, there's a poll of "Which band or event are you most excited about seeing this summer?"
    Van Halen won! Also mentioned in the poll are Iron Maiden, Kiss/Motley Crue, Mayhem Fest, and a bunch of others. GO VH!!!
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    • vandeleur
      ROTH ARMY SUPREME
      • Sep 2009
      • 9870

      #3
      The acoustic stuff sounds interesting ... John 5 is always giving it up for Dave
      fuck your fucking framing

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      • neuralfraud
        Head Fluffer
        • Aug 2010
        • 278

        #4
        cue the "You can't be in two bands at the same time" in 5...4...3...2...1...

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        • SLAUGHTER MAN
          Groupie
          • Apr 2012
          • 76

          #5
          I got a couple of ideas on this whole thing......in the fall on 2011, with A DIFFERENT KIND OF TRUTH in the can for a few months and the band out shopping for a record label to distribute the MASTERPIECE, Dave went into the studio with a handful of songs that the "THREE TWINS" rejected and did a quick "GUERRILLA" collaboration with John 5 (excellent choice DLR) and banged out a record in classic Van Halen fashion...in a couple of weeks. This is the only scenerio that makes sense because the whole first 8 to 9 months of the year, the new Van Halen record HAD to be his focus. Unless, he was doing two records at once. Which, in opinion is not Dave's style. But, for that matter, neither is making a DLR solo record while IN Van Halen. Maybe THIS IS the last go around for VH.....retirement??? And Dave wants to hit the ground running when the ball drops. But, why let John 5 be the guy who drops that bomb??? So, it steers the boat toward a quick..wham bam thank you ma'am (fuck u assholes who thought I was gonna say Wham Bam Amsterdam!!) solo record to get out the tunes that he thought would fit into the VH record and ended up working on the old 70's demos. Maybe Dave thought those VH brothers wouldn't be hip to what he had up his sleeveand couldn't quite get a grasp on what he had wrote..maybe collaboration MUSICALLY ain't what THE THREE TWINS want...just stick to your briliant lyrics and melodies. And maybe a friend of mine is right....JOHN 5 IS AN ASSHOLE SPREADING RUMORS!!!!!!!! Be interesting as hell to see where this trail leads...but to think King Edward, Rev. Al and Wolf don't all ready know about this and JOHN 5 is causing band tumoil by this interview...that's one thing I am sure is NOT the truth. Play VH louder today in tribute to all our friends who passed away over the years and loved the band...my best bud from high school, Jason Courtner, who saw 5 VH shows with me, died 6 years ago today. Heard they played VH at his funeral...I didn't get to go....play loud..if you had a friend.

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          • Carloscda
            Foot Soldier
            • Jan 2009
            • 666

            #6
            Oh boy here we go...

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            • VHscraps
              Veteran
              • Jul 2009
              • 1865

              #7
              Originally posted by SLAUGHTER MAN
              I got a couple of ideas on this whole thing......in the fall on 2011, with A DIFFERENT KIND OF TRUTH in the can for a few months and the band out shopping for a record label to distribute the MASTERPIECE, Dave went into the studio with a handful of songs that the "THREE TWINS" rejected and did a quick "GUERRILLA" collaboration with John 5 (excellent choice DLR) and banged out a record in classic Van Halen fashion...in a couple of weeks. This is the only scenerio that makes sense because the whole first 8 to 9 months of the year, the new Van Halen record HAD to be his focus. Unless, he was doing two records at once. Which, in opinion is not Dave's style. But, for that matter, neither is making a DLR solo record while IN Van Halen. Maybe THIS IS the last go around for VH.....retirement??? And Dave wants to hit the ground running when the ball drops. But, why let John 5 be the guy who drops that bomb??? So, it steers the boat toward a quick..wham bam thank you ma'am (fuck u assholes who thought I was gonna say Wham Bam Amsterdam!!) solo record to get out the tunes that he thought would fit into the VH record and ended up working on the old 70's demos. Maybe Dave thought those VH brothers wouldn't be hip to what he had up his sleeveand couldn't quite get a grasp on what he had wrote..maybe collaboration MUSICALLY ain't what THE THREE TWINS want...just stick to your briliant lyrics and melodies. And maybe a friend of mine is right....JOHN 5 IS AN ASSHOLE SPREADING RUMORS!!!!!!!! Be interesting as hell to see where this trail leads...but to think King Edward, Rev. Al and Wolf don't all ready know about this and JOHN 5 is causing band tumoil by this interview...that's one thing I am sure is NOT the truth. Play VH louder today in tribute to all our friends who passed away over the years and loved the band...my best bud from high school, Jason Courtner, who saw 5 VH shows with me, died 6 years ago today. Heard they played VH at his funeral...I didn't get to go....play loud..if you had a friend.
              Or ... it was before recording of ADKOT began.

              Recall that interview with John Shanks just recently. He said he 'bumped into Dave' at some studios or other sometime before he was chosen as producer - Shanks was working in one room, and Dave was in one of the other studios recording. Didn't Shanks say, 'Dave's always in the studio, always recording stuff - I don't know what it was'.

              Now, that could have been a long time before either of those events - i.e., the ADKOT album or the acoustic thing mentioned by John
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              • twonabomber
                formerly F A T
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Jan 2004
                • 11201

                #8
                if Ed were to kick Dave out over the "two bands" rule, i don't think Hagar would be welcomed back. Ed isn't going to get rid of Wolfgang, and Sam likely wouldn't go back to VH without Mike.
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                • DLR'sCock
                  Crazy Ass Mofo
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 2937

                  #9
                  Dave is always in the studio doing something guys........

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                  • sonrisa salvaje
                    Veteran
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 2098

                    #10
                    This is great news. Maybe this will be released on of these days kind of like Iommi released the 96 sessions with Glenn Hughes a decade after the fact. I think everyone would agree that we were lucky to get ADKOT. I don't have a lot of confidence that there will be a follow up and if even if there were how long would it take?
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                    • sadaist
                      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 11625

                      #11
                      Hey Slaughterman, you mention these could be tunes the Three Twins rejected or didn't fit into the VH new album vibe to them, or they didn't get what Roth was going for on them. I am positive that happened as it had happened before. But whatever the brothers rejected, or whatever Dave rejected from them I am so happy they did. Because what eventually made the album is 13 tracks of perfection. Thta is why they work so well together. You shufle Daves ideas & VH's ideas together and only the top cards end up being dealt. Equals WIN for us fans. I wouldn't change a thing about ADKOT.

                      Too much Dave influence and we end up with No Holds BBQ. Too much Eddie and we end up with a porn soundtrack noodling. Those tunes are best left as rarities & oddities to be heard and discovered over the years to come.
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                      • SLAUGHTER MAN
                        Groupie
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 76

                        #12
                        Originally posted by sadaist
                        Hey Slaughterman, you mention these could be tunes the Three Twins rejected or didn't fit into the VH new album vibe to them, or they didn't get what Roth was going for on them. I am positive that happened as it had happened before. But whatever the brothers rejected, or whatever Dave rejected from them I am so happy they did. Because what eventually made the album is 13 tracks of perfection. Thta is why they work so well together. You shufle Daves ideas & VH's ideas together and only the top cards end up being dealt. Equals WIN for us fans. I wouldn't change a thing about ADKOT.

                        Too much Dave influence and we end up with No Holds BBQ. Too much Eddie and we end up with a porn soundtrack noodling. Those tunes are best left as rarities & oddities to be heard and discovered over the years to come.
                        I agree....stronger together than apart. And when I hear JOHN 5 say "recent" I think within the last year, not 2010...but everybody is different. I could be way the fuck off...it could have been when Eddie was on the couch watching Law And Order...you know 2009. And Dave kept busy making that album, but you think if that was the case it would have all ready been released. JOHN 5 should have given a timeline...you gonna drop a bomb like that..give us a few more specifics so we don't think Roth is in the studio in between legs of this tour (which some asshole suggested on another site...I wasn't the nicer guy in the world to him...I went all LEAPS on his ass). But I remember thinking what an asshole Hagar was releasing a record while on tour with VH in 2004 (the Red Collection). I thought that fucker can't even concentrate on the task at hand and show respect to VH (had no idea what was going on behind the scenes). To have DLR pull something similar is WAY outta character...but maybe we got some major fucking landmines to step on when this tour ends.

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                        • sadaist
                          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 11625

                          #13
                          Originally posted by SLAUGHTER MAN
                          .it could have been when Eddie was on the couch watching Law And Order...you know 2009. And Dave kept busy making that album, but you think if that was the case it would have all ready been released.
                          Not a chance Dave would release anything while still in Van halen. Took him a quarter century to get back his rightful throne. He now knows exactly what NOT to do to retain that throne. Wisdom. That is exactly why rather than 1 tour from 07/08 we got a full album and another tour. Had Dave released something after the last tour that would have been it for Van Halen. He is just keeping busy and hopefully will let stuff out when/if VH finally ends. So I kinda hope we never hear it.
                          “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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                          • sadaist
                            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 11625

                            #14
                            Originally posted by SLAUGHTER MAN
                            . But I remember thinking what an asshole Hagar was releasing a record while on tour with VH in 2004 (the Red Collection). I thought that fucker can't even concentrate on the task at hand and show respect to VH .

                            Sammy sees Van Halen as his gravy train. Not his legacy. If he doesn't think he can get any more money from it why not piss all over it? Man I hate that dude.
                            “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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                            • twonabomber
                              formerly F A T
                              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                              • Jan 2004
                              • 11201

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SLAUGHTER MAN
                              But I remember thinking what an asshole Hagar was releasing a record while on tour with VH in 2004 (the Red Collection). I thought that fucker can't even concentrate on the task at hand and show respect to VH (had no idea what was going on behind the scenes).
                              not sticking up for Hagar, but releasing that was most likely the record company's decision, without any input from Hagar. cashing in on the tour with minimal work on their part.
                              Last edited by twonabomber; 04-28-2012, 02:17 PM.
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