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  • Carloscda
    Foot Soldier
    • Jan 2009
    • 666

    What a definite contrast!

    So I'm at work listening to WMMR double shot Tuesday. First song is Dreams, second song comes on with the roaring riff of ATBL totally destroying that pop crap!! Once again easily to hear the power with Dave!! Made the rest of my day.
  • 78/84 guy
    Crazy Ass Mofo
    • Apr 2005
    • 2557

    #2
    It's not even Van Halen at all. Warner Bros. were right about the band changing the name. I do like Ed's solo on it though.

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    • VHscraps
      Veteran
      • Jul 2009
      • 1867

      #3
      It's interesting if you can think yourself back into 1986, when you heard '5150' and 'Eat 'Em and Smile'. I know what I thought - EEAS sounds like Van Halen, the other one sounds like a band trying to be Van Halen.

      That, my friends, is very instructive, because I was not the only one to think it. When we say at Roth Army 'Dave is VH', yeah it's a bit of bravado etc., but really you simply do not have what we understand as Van Halen without David Lee Roth.

      It is an undisputable fact.
      THINK LIKE THE WAVES

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      • ZahZoo
        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

        • Jan 2004
        • 8970

        #4
        Van Halen without Diamond Dave is like porn without tits...

        nuff said...
        "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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        • Angel
          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
          • Jan 2004
          • 7481

          #5
          Originally posted by VHscraps
          It's interesting if you can think yourself back into 1986, when you heard '5150' and 'Eat 'Em and Smile'. I know what I thought - EEAS sounds like Van Halen, the other one sounds like a band trying to be Van Halen.

          That, my friends, is very instructive, because I was not the only one to think it. When we say at Roth Army 'Dave is VH', yeah it's a bit of bravado etc., but really you simply do not have what we understand as Van Halen without David Lee Roth.

          It is an undisputable fact.
          Exactly! Even my ex, who wasn't a fan, said "that's not Van Halen" when he heard 5150.
          "Ya know what they say about angels... An angel is a supernatural being or spirit, usually humanoid in form, found in various religions and mythologies. Plus Roth fan boards..."- ZahZoo April 2013

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          • fourthcoming

            #6
            Originally posted by ZahZoo
            Van Halen without Diamond Dave is like porn without tits...

            nuff said...
            Van Hagar was late night Cinemax......just not quite doing it....

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            • DLR Bridge
              ROCKSTAR

              • Mar 2011
              • 5470

              #7
              Originally posted by VHscraps
              It's interesting if you can think yourself back into 1986, when you heard '5150' and 'Eat 'Em and Smile'. I know what I thought - EEAS sounds like Van Halen, the other one sounds like a band trying to be Van Halen.
              I thought, by Why Can't This Be Love, that they were a band no longer trying to sound like Van Halen. I agree with 78/84 guy. A band name change would have been the right thing to do, especially since the venture with Hagar was intended to be a departure. It also would have opened the doors much quicker for a DLR return, had Van Hagar been a band with a new name. Under a new moniker, it could have been received as a one off project. One where by the masses would have said, "ok now that you got that out of your system, can we have our original band back please?".

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              • DLR Bridge
                ROCKSTAR

                • Mar 2011
                • 5470

                #8
                Originally posted by fourthcoming
                Van Hagar was late night Cinemax......just not quite doing it....
                I always thought of the Van Hagar tunes with, atleast, some decent instrumentation as super models with faces like Geddy Lee.

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                • fourthcoming

                  #9
                  The very first time I heard Why Can't this Be love it was being played on a radio station that played all pop like Madonna, Billy Joel, Debbie gibson, Wham.....etc.....I knew they were done right then and there.

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                  • DLR Bridge
                    ROCKSTAR

                    • Mar 2011
                    • 5470

                    #10
                    Originally posted by fourthcoming
                    The very first time I heard Why Can't this Be love it was being played on a radio station that played all pop like Madonna, Billy Joel, Debbie gibson, Wham.....etc.....I knew they were done right then and there.
                    True, they were done, but don't forget, it was Jump that first aligned the band with that ilk.

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                    • jpage78
                      Groupie
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 54

                      #11
                      I'm trying to think of the songs Dave was working on with VH in 85 before he left. "Eat Thy Neighbor" (supposedly turned in to Summer Nights) and I heard that what turned out to be Dreams was worked on with Dave as well...there's one more that I can't remember off the top of my head. Didn't Dave describe the music that Ed was presenting to him as "morose"?

                      The interesting thing about Summer Nights is, even though in the hands of Hagar it is utter crap, musically it is the closest Van Hagar came to capturing the CVH vibe. It has Dave's fingerprints all over it. Makes me wonder how much of Dave's original melody they used (if that song, as legend says, started out as Eat Thy Neighbor)

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                      • TJMKID
                        Veteran
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 1533

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Carloscda
                        So I'm at work listening to WMMR double shot Tuesday. First song is Dreams, second song comes on with the roaring riff of ATBL totally destroying that pop crap!! Once again easily to hear the power with Dave!! Made the rest of my day.

                        I remember being 15 and hearing "Good Enough" for the first time ---- Spamborita starts in with those genius lyrics ---- "She's US Prime, Grade A guaranteed, grease her up and turn on the heat".

                        I cried on the inside ---- I knew the real Van Halen had died and been replaced by Night Ranger.

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                        • Coyote
                          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 8185

                          #13
                          Cocaine is a helluva drug...
                          Why settle for something you have, if it's not as good as something you're out to get?

                          Originally posted by Seshmeister
                          It's like putting up a YouTube of Bach and playing Chopstix on your Bontempi...

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                          • binnie
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • May 2006
                            • 19145

                            #14
                            I develop a twitch when I hear the open bars of 'Dreams'.......
                            The Power Of The Riff Compels Me

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                            • Dr. Love
                              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 7832

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ZahZoo
                              Van Halen without Diamond Dave is like porn without tits...

                              nuff said...
                              Just a pussy and a bunch of dicks.
                              I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

                              http://i.imgur.com/jBw4fCu.gif

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