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Satan
09-10-2012, 05:33 PM
Paul Ryan On Medical Marijuana Legalization: 'Let The States Decide'

Posted: 09/07/2012 6:51 pm Updated: 09/08/2012 2:50 pm (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/07/paul-ryan-marijuana-legalization_n_1866180.html)


In an interview with Colorado station KRDO-TV, Republican vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan says he believes it's up to the states to decide whether to legalize medical marijuana.

"My personal position on these issues has been let the states decide what they want to do with these things," he explains. "This is something that is not a high priority of ours."

Voters in Colorado will decide whether to legalize marijuana this November with Amendment 64 on the ballot. (Ryan did not elaborate on whether complete decriminalization should be left to the states.)

According to KRDO-TV, Ryan made clear that he "doesn't believe" in the effort, but he nevertheless feels the issue should be reconciled at the state level.

HuffPost's Ryan Grim recently reported on GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney's position on legalizing medical marijuana:


Campaigning in New Hampshire during the GOP primary, Mitt Romney was asked on several occasions whether he supported medical marijuana. He became visibly frustrated.

"I have the same position this week I had last week when you asked the question," he said, before arguing fairly loosely that medical marijuana should be banned because it might lead to broader marijuana legalization, which might in turn lead pot smokers to try hard drugs.

"The entryway into our drug culture for our young people is marijuana," Romney said. "Marijuana is the starter drug. And the idea of medical marijuana is designed to help get marijuana out into the public marketplace and ultimately lead to the legalization of marijuana overall. And in my view, that's the wrong way to go."

Romney suggested his questioner approach Democrats instead and promised to fight legalization. "I know there are some on the Democratic side of the aisle that'd be happy to get in your campaign," he said. "But I'm opposed to it, and if you elect me president, you're not going to see legalized marijuana. I'm going to fight it tooth and nail."

Ryan and Romney may differ in their posture toward medical marijuana legalization, but it's worth noting that President Barack Obama has been no ally to advancing the issue. Under the Obama administration, the federal government has taken action to crack down on dispensaries in states like Colorado and California.

Satan
09-10-2012, 05:37 PM
Obama needs to get his shit together and come out in favor of "states rights" on weed, or it's going to hurt him.

For the record....

Rocky Anderson says legalize it. Jill Stein says legalize it. Gary Johnson says legalize it, and Mittens & Munster are split over it. Take the hint (and the hit) Barry.....

jhale667
09-10-2012, 07:18 PM
Legalization is long overdue. And yes, the POTUS should be all over it.

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ELVIS
09-10-2012, 07:30 PM
That's one of the things Obama lied about countless times in 2007-08...

Dr. Love
09-10-2012, 10:13 PM
Uh, yeah ... it is ... given his crackdown on dispensaries.

jhale667
09-10-2012, 10:19 PM
I'd totally agree he's f*ed up on that big time. Rumor has it there will be a shift on drug war policy in the 2nd term. CA just got the (IIRC) 50,000 signatures needed to hold a referendum on the attempted statewide closure of dispensaries, btw.

Nickdfresh
09-10-2012, 10:25 PM
Jesus, just legalize pot already...

Satan
09-10-2012, 10:29 PM
If the Colorado and Washington ballot measures are successful, hopefully that will start a real national discussion.

Just as it is with marriage equality (either the same sex variety or the earlier different skin color kind) the more states get on board, the more the discussion can be based on reality and not bullshit rhetoric.

Satan
09-10-2012, 10:31 PM
Jesus, just legalize pot already...

If it was up to Him, I'm sure He would. Him and His Dad made the stuff in the first place.

Though I was the one who first thought of baking the brownies with it. http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d025.gif

jhale667
09-10-2012, 10:42 PM
Jesus, just legalize pot already...


It's just retarded, and where the F are all the state's rights people on this? In Cali's case, a referendum on something that's already long decided, and said dispensaries have been paying taxes - in a state that y'know, needs the money?


Not gonna repost the whole thing here, but cool read:

Five Scientific Conclusions About Cannabis That The Mainstream Media Doesn’t Want You To Know

http://www.alternet.org/drugs/five-scientific-conclusions-about-cannabis-mainstream-media-doesnt-want-you-know?paging=off

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h217/jhale667/mmj_plant.jpg


You know it's bullshit when the government claims there's no medicinal value to it, and yet big pharma is trying to find ways to synthesize it...

Jesus Christ
09-10-2012, 10:55 PM
Jesus, just legalize pot already...

My kingdom is not of this world, Nicodemus.

If it were, then no plant that We created would hath been made illegal in the first place. :(

Dr. Love
09-10-2012, 11:58 PM
It's just retarded, and where the F are all the state's rights people on this? In Cali's case, a referendum on something that's already long decided, and said dispensaries have been paying taxes - in a state that y'know, needs the money?


Not gonna repost the whole thing here, but cool read:

Five Scientific Conclusions About Cannabis That The Mainstream Media Doesn’t Want You To Know

http://www.alternet.org/drugs/five-scientific-conclusions-about-cannabis-mainstream-media-doesnt-want-you-know?paging=off

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h217/jhale667/mmj_plant.jpg


You know it's bullshit when the government claims there's no medicinal value to it, and yet big pharma is trying to find ways to synthesize it...

um, we have been supporting the only people in the race so far that have been saying to legalize the whole time ... where have YOU been? :P

Angel
09-11-2012, 01:20 AM
The sooner you guys legalize, the sooner we will. Every Liberal PM since the 60's have promised it, but it hasn't happened yet.

jhale667
09-11-2012, 02:11 AM
um, we have been supporting the only people in the race so far that have been saying to legalize the whole time ... where have YOU been? :P


Duh...:biggrin: I meant protesting the closures of (legal) dispensaries. I mean, what a waste of my fucking tax dollars...

Nitro Express
09-11-2012, 03:32 AM
Legalization is long overdue. And yes, the POTUS should be all over it.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h217/jhale667/295212_10151063978813381_15454961_n.jpg

His corrupt Justice Department is all over it closing it down and sending good people who were just exercising their state legal rights to prison. The assholes are making these people federal felons.

Nitro Express
09-11-2012, 03:38 AM
Paul Ryan On Medical Marijuana Legalization: 'Let The States Decide'

Posted: 09/07/2012 6:51 pm Updated: 09/08/2012 2:50 pm (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/07/paul-ryan-marijuana-legalization_n_1866180.html)


In an interview with Colorado station KRDO-TV, Republican vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan says he believes it's up to the states to decide whether to legalize medical marijuana.

"My personal position on these issues has been let the states decide what they want to do with these things," he explains. "This is something that is not a high priority of ours."

Voters in Colorado will decide whether to legalize marijuana this November with Amendment 64 on the ballot. (Ryan did not elaborate on whether complete decriminalization should be left to the states.)

According to KRDO-TV, Ryan made clear that he "doesn't believe" in the effort, but he nevertheless feels the issue should be reconciled at the state level.

HuffPost's Ryan Grim recently reported on GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney's position on legalizing medical marijuana:



Ryan and Romney may differ in their posture toward medical marijuana legalization, but it's worth noting that President Barack Obama has been no ally to advancing the issue. Under the Obama administration, the federal government has taken action to crack down on dispensaries in states like Colorado and California.

Obama has cracked down on it more than Bush did. Heck Bush was probably smoking it. I can see Bush Jr. and Bill Clinton doing lines of coke together with Barry standing in a corner looking pissed because he's not the center of attention.

Nickdfresh
09-11-2012, 07:27 AM
My kingdom is not of this world, Nicodemus.

If it were, then no plant that We created would hath been made illegal in the first place. :(

Jesus? I'm not even a big fan of the stuff, but the results of using hemp for a variety of products alone could expand the U.S. economy...

Angel
09-11-2012, 09:10 AM
Jesus? I'm not even a big fan of the stuff, but the results of using hemp for a variety of products alone could expand the U.S. economy...

You mean hemps not legal there yet? No THC, no reason not to use it.

Dr. Love
09-11-2012, 09:34 AM
Duh...:biggrin: I meant protesting the closures of (legal) dispensaries. I mean, what a waste of my fucking tax dollars...

Did you forget? Protesting now carries the potential for jail time.

ELVIS
09-11-2012, 11:12 AM
Rumor has it there will be a shift on drug war policy in the 2nd term.

Oh yeah fucking riight...

Did you dream that rumor up ??

ELVIS
09-11-2012, 11:13 AM
Did you forget? Protesting now carries the potential for jail time.

he didn't dream that up yet...

jhale667
09-11-2012, 01:00 PM
Oh, the irony of Alex Jones' ass puppet accusing anyone of "dreaming something up". What a fucking 'tard.

Google it, BITCH.

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FORD
09-11-2012, 01:11 PM
You mean hemps not legal there yet? No THC, no reason not to use it.

The government is too dumb to know the difference, so they ban all varities of the cannabis plant.

Also the timber industry and the cotton industry were among the corporations who pushed for the ban in the first place (along with the breweries and big pharma) so it was as much of a matter of eliminating competition there as it was the "reefer madness" hysteria over the smokeable kind.

jhale667
09-11-2012, 02:18 PM
The government is too dumb to know the difference, so they ban all varities of the cannabis plant.

Also the timber industry and the cotton industry were among the corporations who pushed for the ban in the first place (along with the breweries and big pharma) so it was as much of a matter of eliminating competition there as it was the "reefer madness" hysteria over the smokeable kind.

Wasn't it William Randolph Hearst trying to protect his wood-pulp papermill empire mostly, as hemp paper is far more renewable and can be produced at a fraction of the cost? I'd always heard he was the prime sponsor behind the production of "Reefer Madness".

FORD
09-11-2012, 02:25 PM
Wasn't it William Randolph Hearst trying to protect his wood-pulp papermill empire mostly, as hemp paper is far more renewable and can be produced at a fraction of the cost? I'd always heard he was the prime sponsor behind the production of "Reefer Madness".

Yeah, Hearst was one of them. And since he was behind lying propaganda right wing media, long before Rupert Murdoch hatched from an egg laid by a reptillian creature from Hell, I wouldn't at all be surprised if he was behind Reefer Madness.

Which is probably one of the most hilarious films of all time, even though it wasn't intended to be a comedy.

Nitro Express
09-11-2012, 02:29 PM
"In the 30's we went to see a movie called Reefer Madness. All we knew after watching it is we wanted some." --Johnny Carson--

ELVIS
09-11-2012, 02:51 PM
Google it, BITCH.



Google what, asshale heard a rumor ??

jhale667
09-11-2012, 03:29 PM
Google what, asshale heard a rumor ??

Try "2nd term drug policy pivot", hack...then Google what you're going to do now that it's the 11th and you've already blown through your welfare check...:biggrin:

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Dr. Love
09-11-2012, 04:01 PM
Try "2nd term drug policy pivot", hack...then Google what you're going to do now that it's the 11th and you've already blown through your welfare check...:biggrin:

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Well surely he wouldn't lie to us again would he? Foolish once, shame on him. Fool us twice ... Ya don't get fooled again!

Of course, it's just a rumor, but that's good enough! Let's all go vote for the rumor we like! Yay!

ELVIS
09-11-2012, 04:40 PM
Yay!


:biggrin:

jhale667
09-11-2012, 04:44 PM
Well surely he wouldn't lie to us again would he? Foolish once, shame on him. Fool us twice ... Ya don't get fooled again!

Of course, it's just a rumor, but that's good enough! Let's all go vote for the rumor we like! Yay!


Still beats the F out of voting for the WRONGney/Munster ticket hands down. And c'mon, you think had Obama actually attempted a legalization effort it wouldn't have been obstructed and used as an example of how he's "destroying the country"? Please. I knew that wasn't gonna happen the day Bitch McConnell made his mission statement... he COULD have backed off on the DEA raids though, that WAS something he could've pulled off without Repuke blowback.

ELVIS
09-11-2012, 05:19 PM
Obama is a liar...

jhale667
09-11-2012, 05:20 PM
So are you but we still let you post here...for now.

Angel
09-11-2012, 05:38 PM
Hemp is legal here, as is medical marijuana. In fact, I'm going to see my Dr. next week about getting a medical license.

Dr. Love
09-11-2012, 06:30 PM
Still beats the F out of voting for the WRONGney/Munster ticket hands down. And c'mon, you think had Obama actually attempted a legalization effort it wouldn't have been obstructed and used as an example of how he's "destroying the country"? Please. I knew that wasn't gonna happen the day Bitch McConnell made his mission statement... he COULD have backed off on the DEA raids though, that WAS something he could've pulled off without Repuke blowback.

I guess you still think your only choices are Obama and Romney...

Dr. Love
09-11-2012, 06:39 PM
Still beats the F out of voting for the WRONGney/Munster ticket hands down. And c'mon, you think had Obama actually attempted a legalization effort it wouldn't have been obstructed and used as an example of how he's "destroying the country"? Please. I knew that wasn't gonna happen the day Bitch McConnell made his mission statement... he COULD have backed off on the DEA raids though, that WAS something he could've pulled off without Repuke blowback.

You know the opposition has won when they dictate what your side is even willing to try. It would be unfortunate if Obama genuinely believed in legalization but backed down because he feared the political ramifications. If he did, then the republicans beat him in his first term.

But I don't think he believes in legalization; I think it was politically convenient for his image and target demographic.

motherchicken
09-11-2012, 06:47 PM
Yeah, Hearst was one of them. And since he was behind lying propaganda right wing media, long before Rupert Murdoch hatched from an egg laid by a reptillian creature from Hell, I wouldn't at all be surprised if he was behind Reefer Madness.
One of the other major players was Dupont. They wanted to sell vinyl rope.

motherchicken
09-11-2012, 06:54 PM
My kingdom is not of this world, Nicodemus.

If it were, then no plant that We created would hath been made illegal in the first place. :(
Some still need to be at least controlled. The opium poppy, the coca plant and that fucking salvia plant.

ELVIS
09-11-2012, 08:26 PM
So are you but we still let you post here...for now.

We ??

Go fuck yourself...

jhale667
09-11-2012, 11:24 PM
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