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ELVIS
09-13-2012, 07:58 PM
The killings (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/revealed-inside-story-of-us-envoys-assassination-8135797.html) of the US ambassador to Libya and three of his staff were likely to have been the result of a serious and continuing security breach, The Independent can reveal.

American officials believe the attack was planned, but Chris Stevens had been back in the country only a short while and the details of his visit to Benghazi, where he and his staff died, were meant to be confidential.

The US administration is now facing a crisis in Libya. Sensitive documents have gone missing from the consulate in Benghazi and the supposedly secret location of the "safe house" in the city, where the staff had retreated, came under sustained mortar attack. Other such refuges across the country are no longer deemed "safe".

Some of the missing papers from the consulate are said to list names of Libyans who are working with Americans, putting them potentially at risk from extremist groups, while some of the other documents are said to relate to oil contracts.

According to senior diplomatic sources, the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and "lockdown", under which movement is severely restricted.

Mr Stevens had been on a visit to Germany, Austria and Sweden and had just returned to Libya when the Benghazi trip took place with the US embassy's security staff deciding that the trip could be undertaken safely.

Eight Americans, some from the military, were wounded in the attack which claimed the lives of Mr Stevens, Sean Smith, an information officer, and two US Marines. All staff from Benghazi have now been moved to the capital, Tripoli, and those whose work is deemed to be non-essential may be flown out of Libya.

In the meantime a Marine Corps FAST Anti-Terrorism Reaction Team has already arrived in the country from a base in Spain and other personnel are believed to be on the way. Additional units have been put on standby to move to other states where their presence may be needed in the outbreak of anti-American fury triggered by publicity about a film which demeaned the Prophet Mohamed.

A mob of several hundred stormed the US embassy in the Yemeni capital Sanaa yesterday. Other missions which have been put on special alert include almost all those in the Middle East, as well as in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Armenia, Burundi and Zambia.

Senior officials are increasingly convinced, however, that the ferocious nature of the Benghazi attack, in which rocket-propelled grenades were used, indicated it was not the result of spontaneous anger due to the video, called Innocence of Muslims. Patrick Kennedy, Under-Secretary at the State Department, said he was convinced the assault was planned due to its extensive nature and the proliferation of weapons.

There is growing belief that the attack was in revenge for the killing in a drone strike in Pakistan of Mohammed Hassan Qaed, an al-Qa'ida operative who was, as his nom-de-guerre Abu Yahya al-Libi suggests, from Libya, and timed for the anniversary of the 11 September attacks.

Senator Bill Nelson, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said: "I am asking my colleagues on the committee to immediately investigate what role al-Qa'ida or its affiliates may have played in the attack and to take appropriate action."

According to security sources the consulate had been given a "health check" in preparation for any violence connected to the 9/11 anniversary. In the event, the perimeter was breached within 15 minutes of an angry crowd starting to attack it at around 10pm on Tuesday night. There was, according to witnesses, little defence put up by the 30 or more local guards meant to protect the staff. Ali Fetori, a 59-year-old accountant who lives near by, said: "The security people just all ran away and the people in charge were the young men with guns and bombs."

Wissam Buhmeid, the commander of the Tripoli government-sanctioned Libya's Shield Brigade, effectively a police force for Benghazi, maintained that it was anger over the Mohamed video which made the guards abandon their post. "There were definitely people from the security forces who let the attack happen because they were themselves offended by the film; they would absolutely put their loyalty to the Prophet over the consulate. The deaths are all nothing compared to insulting the Prophet."

Mr Stevens, it is believed, was left in the building by the rest of the staff after they failed to find him in dense smoke caused by a blaze which had engulfed the building. He was discovered lying unconscious by local people and taken to a hospital, the Benghazi Medical Centre, where, according to a doctor, Ziad Abu Ziad, he died from smoke inhalation.

An eight-strong American rescue team was sent from Tripoli and taken by troops under Captain Fathi al- Obeidi, of the February 17 Brigade, to the secret safe house to extract around 40 US staff. The building then came under fire from heavy weapons. "I don't know how they found the place to carry out the attack. It was planned, the accuracy with which the mortars hit us was too good for any ordinary revolutionaries," said Captain Obeidi. "It began to rain down on us, about six mortars fell directly on the path to the villa."

Libyan reinforcements eventually arrived, and the attack ended. News had arrived of Mr Stevens, and his body was picked up from the hospital and taken back to Tripoli with the other dead and the survivors.

Mr Stevens' mother, Mary Commanday, spoke of her son yesterday. "He did love what he did, and he did a very good job with it. He could have done a lot of other things, but this was his passion. I have a hole in my heart," she said.

Global anger: The protests spread

Yemen

The furore across the Middle East over the controversial film about the Prophet Mohamed is now threatening to get out of control. In Sana'a, the Yemeni capital, yesterday around 5,000 demonstrators attacked the US embassy, leaving at least 15 people injured. Young protesters, shouted: "We sacrifice ourselves for you, Messenger of God," smashed windows of the security offices and burned at least five cars, witnesses said.

Egypt

Egypt's Islamist President Mohamed Morsi yesterday condemned the attack in Benghazi that killed the US ambassador. In a speech in Brussels, Mr Morsi said he had spoken to President Obama and condemned "in the clearest terms" the Tuesday attacks. Despite this, and possibly playing to a domestic audience, President Obama said yesterday that "I don't think we would consider them an ally, but we don't consider them an enemy".

Demonstrators in Cairo attacked the mission on Tuesday evening and protests have continued since.

Iraq

Militants said the anti-Islamic film "will put all the American interests Iraq in danger" and called on Muslims everywhere to "face our joint enemy", as protesters in Baghdad burned American flags yesterday. The warning from the Iranian-backed group Asaib Ahl al-Haq came as demonstrators demanded the closure of the US embassy in the capital.

Bangladesh

Islamists warned they may "besiege" the US embassy in Dhaka after security forces stopped around 1,000 protesters marching to the building. The Khelafat Andolon group called for bigger protests as demonstrators threw their fists in the air, burned the flag and chanted anti-US slogans.

Others

There was a Hamas-organised protest in Gaza City, and as many as 100 Arab Israelis took to the streets in Tel Aviv. In Afghanistan, President Hamid Karzai postponed a trip to Norway, fearing violence. Officials in Pakistan said they "expected protests". Protesters in Tunis burnt US flags.


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fourthcoming
09-13-2012, 09:18 PM
I have a really dear childhood friend who is somewhere in the Middle east right now, hopefully still alive, who works for the Israeli military. I have absolutely no way of contacting him anymore...the last time I heard his voice it was on a voicemail when he left a teary message at the airport before he flew out again. The only time I ever see him is when he shows up absolutely out of nowhere and always seems to find where I'm living. He is an American born citizen and joined the Israeli army after high school to get away from his crazy ass father. Anyway, he has shown me pictures of some unbelievable things he has been a part of over the years. The last time I saw him he was mentioning how he started taking an interest in scuba diving and gave me a wink and a strange look I will never forget. A month later he had left the country for Israel and I'm watching the news about the Israeli raid on the Turkish flotilla. In the last 10 years he has been extremely coy and tightlipped, has changed his name, has 2 masters degrees and speaks several languages and oh yea....his mom was Puerto Rican so he is Jewish and Puerto rican and could pass for an arab in a heartbeat. He swore to me years ago that Israeli intelligence was warning us for weeks leading up to 9/11 that something big was coming. He said israeli intelligence never actually pinpointed exactly what was coming but they knew N.Y. was absolutely a target. Israeli intelligence is light years ahead of U.S. intelligence because of their infiltration and their middle east contacts. I hate to admit this but we turned a blind eye and deaf ears. We seem to have a history of ignoring warnings unfortunately.

ELVIS
09-13-2012, 09:40 PM
Hmmm...

LoungeMachine
09-14-2012, 03:31 AM
Hmmm...

About as intelligent as this thread....

:gulp:

fourthcoming
09-14-2012, 07:47 AM
Well thank the good lord above someone was here to distinguish whether or not this was an intelligent thread. I'z tooz dumbz to fiurez itz outz fo' myselfz boss....

Nickdfresh
09-14-2012, 09:59 AM
Nice. A piece of shit article from fringe conspiracy and right wing sites....

Elcuntis, don't you know it's all a conspiracy so we can release the Predator drones?

BigBadBrian
09-17-2012, 08:03 AM
LINK (http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/15/world/meast/libya-diplomats-warning/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)Benghazi, Libya (CNN) -- Three days before the deadly assault on the United States consulate in Libya, a local security official says he met with American diplomats in the city and warned them about deteriorating security.
Jamal Mabrouk, a member of the February 17th Brigade, told CNN that he and a battalion commander had a meeting about the economy and security.
He said they told the diplomats that the security situation wasn't good for international business.
"The situation is frightening, it scares us," Mabrouk said they told the U.S. officials. He did not say how they responded.
Inside the U.S. consulate in Benghazi Slain ambassador returns Possible security leak in Libya
Mabrouk said it was not the first time he has warned foreigners about the worsening security situation in the face of the growing presence of armed jihadist groups in the Benghazi area.
The main building in the compound is in charred ruins.
Disagreement over how attack began
The suite where the body of the ambassador was found was protected by a large door with steel bars; the windows had steel bars.
His body was recovered after looters broke into the room. It appears his security detail left him in the room while they tried to deal with the attack.
There are numerous questions about what happened at the consulate where protesters had gathered to demonstrate against the film "Innocence of Muslims," which reportedly was made in California by a filmmaker whose identity is unclear.
Chief among the questions is what happened to U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens, who went missing during the attack.
The State Department has not released details about how Stevens died, though numerous media reports have said the ambassador was taken from the consulate to the Benghazi medical center by locals.
Clinton demands Arab Spring nations protect embassies
He arrived at the hospital, according to the reports, unresponsive and covered in soot from the fire. A doctor was unable to revive him and declared him dead, the reports said.
According to one of the Libyan security guards who was stationed at one of the gates armed with only a radio, the assault began simultaneously from three directions.
Heavy machine guns and rocket -propelled grenades were used, according to the guard. He said masked men threatened to kill him at gunpoint for 'protecting the infidels. He declined to appear on camera for fear of repercussions.
Ex-SEALs among Benghazi dead
The February 17th Brigade -- a militia connected to the government but not part of Libya's armed forces -- was closely involved in the rescue of the American staff trapped after the attack Tuesday night.
After the consulate was attacked and set on fire, a number of Americans escaped to a safe-house in another part of the city. But that came under attack too.
Mabrouk said he received a call from an official in Tripoli, who said he had been called by a "terrified" American in Benghazi.
The official was at the safe-house. Mabrouk says the Brigade asked the Americans if they needed help -- but were told that while the situation was dangerous, it was under control.
A few hours later, Mabrouk said he received another call from Tripoli about the arrival of a U.S. team at Benghazi airport that needed transport into the city.
He met the seven Americans, who were heavily armed but not in military uniform, on the runway and provided them with an armed escort, he said.
As soon as the two vehicles carrying the seven Americans arrived at the safe house, they came under intense attack -- including a volley of grenades and machine-gun fire. The assailants then fled.
The Libyan government has vowed to bring the perpetrators of the attack to justice. But on a visit to the heavily-damaged consulate, the country's president said Libya expected help form its friends in the international community.
Asked whether the government was not capable of controlling extremist groups, he responded "You are not far from the truth."

Nickdfresh
09-17-2012, 09:43 AM
Already a thread on this..

ELVIS
09-17-2012, 11:37 AM
And you still refuse to admit Obama is just another piece of shit...

Nickdfresh
09-17-2012, 12:54 PM
LINK (http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/15/world/meast/libya-diplomats-warning/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)Benghazi, Libya (CNN) -- Three days before the deadly assault on the United States consulate in Libya, a local security official says he met with American diplomats in the city and warned them about deteriorating security....

How does that correlate to being "warned" of an attack? Reaching deep into that pile of bullshit, eh?

Nickdfresh
09-17-2012, 12:55 PM
And you still refuse to admit Obama is just another piece of shit...

Right after you admit Alex Jones is a piece of shit that makes Barum and Bailey type predictions that are almost always wrong...

BigBadBrian
09-17-2012, 01:14 PM
My thread, which was merged into this one (sorry, didn't see this one that Elvis started), is from a Left-Wing MSM news source, CNN.

The embassy had warning, that much is clear.

The Administration claims US interests aren't targets in the ME. They are deluded. Terrorist orgs and even foreign govts say otherwise. Barry just can't admit his fellow Muslims would attack US interests while he is President. Obama's foreign policy is in a shambles. Romney and Ryan were correct in criticizing them.

The ambassador didn't have a permanent Marine detail yet Valerie Jarret, Obama's bitch advisor, is on vacation in Martha's vineyard and has 5-6 Secret Service agents as her bodyguard in her vicinity at all times. What are they afraid of, an attack from Chappaquiddick? Great priorities, Barry! :thumb:

ELVIS
09-17-2012, 01:22 PM
Right after you admit Alex Jones is a piece of shit that makes Barum and Bailey type predictions that are almost always wrong...

No they're not...

How 'bout you show me all of the Alex Jones predictions that are wrong ??

jhale667
09-17-2012, 01:23 PM
...Left-Wing MSM news source, CNN.



There's no such thing as a "Left-Wing MSM" you IDIOT... practially all the major news outlets are owned by conservative-leaning corporations. Step away from the Repuke Kool-Aid, what little is left of your brain is rotting..

BigBadBrian
09-17-2012, 01:28 PM
There's no such thing as a "Left-Wing MSM"

That's because to a Left-wing Loon like you, who is so FAR to the Left, everything appears conservative. Ownership has little to say over political content. WAKE UP!

jhale667
09-17-2012, 01:46 PM
That's because to a Left-wing Loon like you, who is so FAR to the Left, everything appears conservative. Ownership has little to say over political content. WAKE UP!

And you're so far to the right you're WRONG, you conservatard troll. Fuck off, try waking out of your own intellectual coma.

FORD
09-17-2012, 01:54 PM
CNN hasn't been anything but right wing since the day AOL/TimeWhorener took them over.

They're now going out of their way to be FAUX II and their ratings are tanking as a result.

Nitro Express
09-17-2012, 01:56 PM
And you still refuse to admit Obama is just another piece of shit...

It's not a left or right thing. It's a shit thing. Most these jokers in office only care about themselves and power. Maybe we would just rename the District of Columbia and just call it The District of Shit.

Nickdfresh
09-17-2012, 03:41 PM
No they're not...

How 'bout you show me all of the Alex Jones predictions that are wrong ??

jhale667
09-17-2012, 04:00 PM
Dude, are you trying to make Eldouchebagis cry? :lmao:

ThrillsNSpills
09-17-2012, 04:08 PM
It's not a left or right thing. It's a shit thing.

gold Nitro
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Nickdfresh
09-17-2012, 04:11 PM
You know, I haven't heard much of Jones, but listening how much of a completely shit-spewing bullshit artist this guy sounds like, and the fact that anyone takes this idiot seriously, makes me cringe...he must have mentioned at least a dozen "false flag operations" of fake terror attacks to be conducted by the U.S. Fed gov't. How can this jackoff believe that and still live here and do his show?

ThrillsNSpills
09-17-2012, 04:18 PM
No they're not...

How 'bout you show me all of the Alex Jones predictions that are wrong ??

Bill Cooper was a big fan.

FORD
09-17-2012, 06:31 PM
The complete Jones/Cooper interview here (if you have a spare 45 minutes to listen to it....)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL7p5h0zJgI