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  • Hardrock69
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Feb 2005
    • 21834

    Republicans are finished

    Seems I am not the only person who can see the glaringly obvious.

    Ok Brie....get your hanky out. Time for the little baby to sob for Mommee......



    Republicans are finished

    Win, lose or draw in November, the Republican Party is over, finished, kaput. How do I know? Tampa tells me so — -and demographics.

    At what should have been the culmination of four years of relentless plotting against President Obama, and in an election cycle that was its to lose, the GOP self-destructed, staging a convention that never got off the ground. It started and stopped and sputtered in between.

    But it wasn't because of Tropical Storm Isaac. The rain or shine outside had nothing to do with the climate inside, where conditions were inclement at best. Fact is: hardly anyone really likes Mitt Romney, even people who say they do — and it showed. He's everybody's Cracker Jack box without a prize, the kid to whose birthday party no one wants to be invited to, even though his house has a swimming pool. He's the would-be head of the richest and most powerful nation on earth, from whom you wouldn't buy a vacuum cleaner without a money-back guarantee.

    It appears the only way he could get anyone except his wife to speak on his behalf was to let them unofficially launch their 2016 campaigns for president — and barely mention him.

    But that's not the worst of it. Pick an issue, any issue. The Elephant Party has become the Ostrich Party — burying its head in the sand, refusing to face reality and build bridges to millions of potential supporters. This year's convention was an apotheosis of all the mean-spirited attacks the tea party/Republicans have been waging against women, gays and lesbians, healthcare reform, China, Russia, undocumented immigrants, Iran, Iraq, Social Security, Medicare — without so much as a single, realistic, workable, compassionate solution to attract undecided voters. The GOP today is largely a party of rabid, old, white men in the unhappy dusk of their lives, railing against a nation in which they are no longer the dominant players. It is sad to watch — and sadder to be one of them. You can smell the mothballs of their memories and memorabilia (hats and banners resurrected for the convention), read the rage in their eyes.

    And then, there was Romney's desperate pandering to thespians. Clint Eastwood lost every vestige of dignity and respect he might still have had by talking to an empty chair, undercutting what was supposed to have been Romney's shining moment. And inconceivably, Romney, ever the kid no one wanted to play with, actually made the executive decision to allow him to speak without vetting his remarks, just to show people he had a friend. But it backfired miserably. If Ronald Reagan vindicated the role of thespians in society, Eastwood set it back for at least a generation.

    And finally, you could see it in every picture of the Tampa convention, especially contrasted with those from the Democrats: The undeniable truth is that the Republican Party is on the wrong side of demographics, which means it's on the wrong side of history. Tragically for our political system, which depends on a vigorous, healthy two-party system, it has chosen to assume the role of permanent obstructionist, ignoring the inevitable changes in population diversity that will eventually bury it.

    So, in the end, the GOP will become the party of Romney, which no one will want to attend, no matter how enticing the swimming pool — if it isn't it already.

    Last edited by Hardrock69; 09-14-2012, 11:25 PM.
  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 58754

    #2
    That's the good news. The bad news is that the "Democratic" party is getting more goddamned right wing every day

    We need a new party to fill the void. One that is NOT sucking the cocks of the felonious 1%

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    • Nitro Express
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 32794

      #3
      I would say both parties are just about evenly matched. Don't forget the polls showed Carter ahead of Reagan after the Democratic Convention. Like all things, political parties morph and change. I would say both parties are dated in many ways. The progressives aren't as progressive as they claim to be. They seem lost in the 1960's actually.

      To be honest, nobody knows what the future holds. If predicting the future was so easy more people would get rich off that knowledge.
      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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      • Nitro Express
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 32794

        #4
        Originally posted by FORD
        That's the good news. The bad news is that the "Democratic" party is getting more goddamned right wing every day

        We need a new party to fill the void. One that is NOT sucking the cocks of the felonious 1%

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        It's really more the big money playing divide and conquer but more and more people are seeing it. The question is how do we stop it? More and more people are thinking the voting process is so rigged it's useless. The states themselves can call a constitutional convention and take control of the government that way. That might happen. Whoever wins this next election better start turning the ship for the better because time is quickly running out. Something will snap and when it does, it won't be pretty.
        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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        • Nickdfresh
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          • Oct 2004
          • 49125

          #5
          Originally posted by FORD
          That's the good news. The bad news is that the "Democratic" party is getting more goddamned right wing every day

          ...
          What if the GOP gets more left wing?

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          • FORD
            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

            • Jan 2004
            • 58754

            #6
            What if Hell gets a Hockey franchise?

            One's about as likely as the other.
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            • Hardrock69
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Feb 2005
              • 21834

              #7
              Lol. I pretty much agree with all of the above.

              But the GOP is going to HAVE to become more moderate, or they will not have enough electoral votes to carry the election.

              That is what is hurting them. The Tea Party foam-at-the-mouthers have been going so apeshit, trying to force Mittens into more of a fascist position.

              If he does not stick with them, he will lose SOME of their votes. Many will vote for him, not because of who he is, but as a last-ditch effort to knock the black man out of office.

              On the other side of the coin, if he sucks the Tea Party coch, the moderate republicans will not be quite so interested in voting for him.

              So he is stuck between a rock and a hard place.

              Meanwhile, he is so vague on his plans for the presidency, the Republicans are starting to tear into his ass.

              Sure, we need a third-party that has possibilities. But we need enough people to defect from the other two parties to make it a viable third option.

              Not going to happen this election. May not happen the next. But yes, it is starting to look more and more like 2 sides of the Demopublican Republocrat party.

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              • Nickdfresh
                SUPER MODERATOR

                • Oct 2004
                • 49125

                #8
                Originally posted by FORD
                What if Hell gets a Hockey franchise?

                One's about as likely as the other.
                I dunno, I think the hard right fascist ideologues are beginning to lose influence as they become increasingly unelectable, and the GOP becomes the Grand Ol' Party of Upper Class White Males...

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                • BITEYOASS
                  ROTH ARMY ELITE
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 6529

                  #9
                  Well maybe nominating a robot wasn't a good idea:

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                  • Redballjets88
                    Full Member Status

                    • Mar 2005
                    • 4453

                    #10
                    Repubs may be done this cycle. But give it 10 years when the part evolves to a more liberitarian stance and the dems are still whining about the next pet project.
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                    • Redballjets88
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                      • Mar 2005
                      • 4453

                      #11
                      Yeah fuck the white people with drive and ambition god that's why the country is going down the toilet...as if the black/Hispanic/Indian/middles eastern/Asian middle class don't do the same things. Once all of the leftists stop highlighting all of our differences the better we will be. I thought we taught our children to be color blind? See the difference between me and you is that you see I'm from The Great REPUBLIC of Texas and was taught that people are people and Americans are Americans. You were taught that in a way but then your lefty friends all told you that race is a huge issue and you decided to make this a core value. If everyone left race out we'd be ok. If people like Jesse Jackson would STFU about racism and realize that my generation gives not one fuck about skin color we'd be fine. I can't wait til your generation dies off and we don't worry about this bs anymore
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                      • FORD
                        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 58754

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Redballjets88
                        Repubs may be done this cycle. But give it 10 years when the part evolves to a more liberitarian stance and the dems are still whining about the next pet project.
                        The Libertarians already HAVE a party. Some of them just like the corporate financing of the Repukes.
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                        • Redballjets88
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                          • Mar 2005
                          • 4453

                          #13
                          True ford but the liberitarans are so easily put in a closet by the big parties thy they have wised up and are infiltrating the party that is more apt to their message. I'm telling you as a prediction as the "moral majority gets older/savvy to the fact that their pet projects will never change the will change. And by change I don't mean become more liberal in their stance but more staunch in their idea that maybe big fed shouldn't have a hand in personal issues. They have lost every big fight they have gotten into. So instead of changing ideals they just won't fight and we'll end up with the utopia of personal freedom and fiscal responsibility. The dems will always have something to whine about Repubs will eventually just not care to fight with them.
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                          • FORD
                            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 58754

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Redballjets88
                            Yeah fuck the white people with drive and ambition god that's why the country is going down the toilet...

                            I thought we taught our children to be color blind? See the difference between me and you is that you see I'm from The Great REPUBLIC of Texas and was taught that people are people and Americans are Americans.

                            If people like Jesse Jackson would STFU about racism and realize that my generation gives not one fuck about skin color we'd be fine.
                            Do you even see the disconnect here in your own statements?

                            And as far as the "Great Republic of Texas" goes, admittedly I haven't set foot in the state since 1978 myself, but given what I know about the idiots running the educational system, the brutal murder of James Byrd, the ethnicity of the majority of the people murdered by the state on the orders of Chimpy and pRick Perry, etc. I just have a hard time believing in this post-racist utopia you're talking about.

                            Yeah, maybe overall the younger generation is less hungup on bigotries like racism and homophobia than the old farts are, but as far as institutional bigotry, especially in Southern states, that's going to be a long long road
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                            • Redballjets88
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                              • Mar 2005
                              • 4453

                              #15
                              For example I had a great discussion with some very conservative friends about abortion this week...the have totally wiped their hands of it. Now they don't exactly like the act but they also don't thinks it's a womans right. They feel like of people are dumb enough to do it let then deal with the future of guilt and depression.
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